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pedroenf 10-01-2015 09:53 AM

HELP! Instrument cluster. SOLVED!!!! 14-12-2015
 
Hi,

yesterday when trying to add fuel tank info to cluster (witch i did) some how i lost the automatic gear box shift info on both sides of Km info in bottom of the cluster. How can i get it back? Please help. I've tried several kinds of coding but none where successful. Thanks

EDIT: forgot to say that i have a w211 2004 car

mersum1es 10-01-2015 10:26 AM

Did you touch anything else than 'tankinfo im...' option? I believe there is options for selector display too, but I cannot see how they would have changed if you just put tank info visible and reset IC...

pedroenf 10-01-2015 12:35 PM

Well i touched a bunch of things but the selector display disapeared before i got to developper part and switched tankinfo. I'm a bit newbie in DAS/xentry so i'm trying to learn as much as i can. I think the slector display was gone after i "coded" the IC version, by default one of the menus shows not configured and you have to select version of IC, MY2003, 2004, 2005, etc. I tryed to recode with some of this versions (2006 included) and couldnt get selector display back. :(

mersum1es 10-01-2015 02:32 PM

Developer mode changes takes place usually after reset only, so your 'version' change may have done the reset automatically and default values are used. I'll check my star tomorrow in simulation mode if I find correct parameter/option. I think you need to go to developer mode now to change display... I saw you have thread 'in the dark side' forum too, they are pros using DAS and other tools...

pedroenf 10-01-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by mersum1es (Post 6572481)
I saw you have thread 'in the dark side' forum too, they are pros using DAS and other tools...

Yes i have lol. hope u can help me. But latter on i'll at home again and i'll retry to fix too. One thing that i must do (we all should) it's to translate from germain to english. Dam germain is hard to understand :)

mersum1es 10-02-2015 01:50 AM

Lol, I have read German about one year, unfortunately does not help much with these technical words...

Hmm just surfing in star sub-menus....

Have you tried all possible model years now? I think you must select correct MY in any way (see your car data card)... did you press default version coding under control unit adaptations - version coding? That may have changed something... I still don't get it why default would be no gear display :eek:

See what is your current status (sorry about english terms, Im using my own language and have to guess how they are translated in english) in factory diagnose - control adaptation - version coding - variantenkodierung werkseinstellungen - Vereinheitlichte Ganganzeige aktiv/passiv... at least that sounds it has something to do with gear display, just dont know what exactly 'unified' here means and what that option does...

pedroenf 10-02-2015 09:59 AM

I've tried a few yes. I spent a lot of time translating all the options in development. I found that one too, the only one apparently related to gear box display. I'll try latter on tonight again. Here is the translation (google one)

aus - out
ein - on
manuell - manually
nicht erlaubt - not allowed
nicht - not
erlaubt - allowed
alt - old

nachleuchtzeit innenlicht - Interior light afterglow

scheinwerferaufschaltung - headlight intrusion

tagfahrlicht - daytime running lights

einheit wegstrecke - unit distance

einheit aussentemperatur - unit outside temperature

automatische turverriegelung - automatic door locks

auswahl anzeige in statuszeile - Select display in status bar

Vmax-begrenzung(winterreifen) - Vmax limit (winter tires)

sprache - language

audiomodus - audio mode

anhängerverlustwarnung - Trailer Grain Loss Warning

spiegeleinstellung - mirror adjustment

umschaltung 12/24 - switching 12/24

einstellung datum - setting date

umfeldbeleuchtung - ambient lighting

klimatisierung lenkrad - Cooling steering Wheel

druckeinheit - printing unit

fahrdynamischer seitenhalt fahrer - driving dynamics lateral support driver

ambientes licht - ambient lighting

taxi-dachzeichen - Taxi roof sign

fahrdynamischer seitenhalt beifahrer - driving dynamics lateral support passenger

taxi oder privat - taxi or private

schlüsselabhängigkeit - key dependence

spiegel anklappen - folding in mirror

heckdeckel - trunk lid

sommer/winterzeitumstellung autom - summer / winter time changeover Auto

abblendlicht - dimmed headlights

wegstrecke - distance

außentemperatureinheit - outside temperature unit

automatische türverriegelung - automatic door locks

anzeige in statuszeile - display in status bar

aussentemperatur - outside temperature

geschwindigkeit - speed

anzeig im grundbild - ad in the main screen

einstiegshilfe - access aid

zuheizer - heater

anzeige uhr - display clock

werkseinstellungen - default settings

komplette tankdatensätze - complete tank records

komplette texte für datenfunk - complete texts for radio data transmission

reiserechner - trip computer

variantencodierung menü-werkseinstellungen - variant coding menu factory settings

variantencodierung schlüsselkonfig - variant coding key config

manuell über konfigurationsmenu - manually via the configuration menu

heckdeckel öffnungsbegrenzung - boot lid opening restrictor

vorzeitiger abbruch gurtwarnung - Premature discontinuation seat belt warning

kein vorzeit. abbruch - no past. demolition
kein vorzeitig. abbruch - no Prematurely. demolition
vorzeitig. abbruch - prematurely. demolition
vorzeit. abbruch - prehistoric. demolition

gurtwarnung - Seat belt warning

ab motorstart - from engine start

nicht vorhanden - unavailable

vorhanden - available

bsg warnungen - bsg warnings

darstellung status zv-notöffnung - Display Status ZV emergency opening

aux bedienbarkeit bei KI15Raus - aux operability at KI15Raus

wecken über lenkradtasten - wake on steering wheel buttons

uk-variante - uk version

einheit tacho-skala - unit speedometer scale

vreg fahrerbedienung in statuszeile - VREG driver's operation in status bar

uhrsynchronisation mit HU - Clock synchronization with HU

außendisplay - external screen

sprachfunk - voice radio

möglich - possible

tankgeberfestsitzerkennung - Fuel sender fixed detection

tankgeberfestsitzerkennung mit x gebern - Fuel sender fixed detection donors with x

einstieg in service menü - entry into service menu

cancel-taste - cancel button

abhängig von eventmaske - depending on event mask

unabhängig von eventmaske - regardless of event mask

kontroll-lampe (nur bis vorserie) - indicator light (only up to pre-production)

anzahl tankgeber vorhanden - Number of fuel sender available

gurt - belt (cinto)

gurt akustik - belt acoustic

handbremse - and brake

lichtwarnung - light alarm

art-info bei lampentest - art-info at lamp test

gurtwarnung display - belt warning display

tempomat - cruise control

v-reg signale vom id 210 auswerten - evaluate v-reg signals from the ID 210

lichtwarnung autom. fahrlicht - light alarm Auto. Driving light

bremswarnung - breake warning

dämpfung bargraphen - bargraph damping

verdecksteuergerät - convertible top control unit

abbruch der schlüsselwarnung nach 30s - Demolition of the key warning after 30s

epc displaymeldung - epc display message

darstellung des hintergrundsymbols - Presentation of background symbols

klappbox warnungen - folding warnings

reiserechner - trip computer

reifendrucküberwachung - tire pressure monitoring

vgl-displaywarnung - see display warning

vgl-lampe - see lamp

kurvenlicht warnung - headlights warning

datumsanzeige grundbildebene - date display basic image plane

bremsbelagverschleißwarnung - Brake pad wear warning

rußpartikelfilter warnung - particulate filter warning

vereinheitlichte ganganzeige - unified gear indicator

tachokennlinie - tacho characteristic

mobilitätskonto - mobility account

k-zahl - knumber

tachokennliniensymmetrie - tacho characteristic symmetry

symmetrisch - symmetric
unsymmetrisch - asymmetrically

rücksetzintervall - reset interval

eeprom-wert - eeprom value

darstellung geschw.-warnung - representation Velocity warning

tankinfo im reichweitenbild - tank info in Range image

menü RR: reichweite/tankinfo - Menu RR: Range / tank info

exception handler lampe - ExceptionHandler lamp

bild unterspannung - Picture undervoltage

bild überspannung - Picture Surge

wegstreckeeinheit für tachorückstellung - distance unit for tacho reset

verbrauchsanzeige km - consumption indicator

ölstandsanzeigen - oil level display

schalter - switch

fernlicht erlaubt - fernlicht allowed

kraftstoff filter warnung - fuel filter warning

reiserechner anzeige bei reserve mit - trip computer display with reserve with

strichen - painted

werten - cheap

wasser im kraftstoff warnung - water in fuel warning

KI ist programmiert, sommerausgabe - KI is programmed summer edition

einheit dtr-skala - unit DTR-scale

tankdeckelinfo - tank lid info

gwsz-vorstellung - gwsz concept

tankreservewarnung - fuel reserve warning

nicht definiert - not defined

serviceanzeige - service display

ölstandsanzeige - Oil level indicator

ölsensorwarnung - oil sensor warning

darstellung text aus eeprom - display text from EEPROM

elektrohydraulisch bremse - electro-hydraulic brake

wartungsrechner expertenmodus - maintenance computer expert mode

segmentring - segment ring

format datumsanzeige - format date display

wartungsrechner werkstattmodus - maintenance computer workshop mode

bedienhinweis fds - operating note fds

sollwert - setpoint

Plutoe 10-02-2015 11:28 AM

Very nice job!!

pedroenf 10-02-2015 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Plutoe (Post 6573242)
Very nice job!!

Thanks :)

burgca 10-03-2015 06:21 AM

Great job very useful information!!

pedroenf 10-03-2015 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by burgca (Post 6573959)
Great job very useful information!!


Thanks. But still cant get that gear box info in the display :(
Isn't there nobody that knows how? I've tried every possible configuration. Probably my DAS is missing some addons? It it 09/2014 DAS.

pedroenf 12-14-2015 06:50 PM

Problem SOLVED!
Just figure it out. It was a wrong programing of the ZGW (or CGW). The items that concerns to the transmition were wrongly coded, CONFORT transmition was existent when it should be INEXISTENT. Only AUTOMATIC TRANSMITION should be EXISTENT. After changed, the gear display pops up in the cluster (no need to reset KI). Somehow i must have changed the CGW coding the first time.

mersum1es 12-15-2015 04:09 AM

Great you got it solved, and some useful information too... never thought it would be ZGW related...

Dstainton 12-18-2015 07:08 PM

I have the same problem, but i haven't coded anything. They just turned off one day and never came back on

mersum1es 12-19-2015 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dstainton (Post 6648650)
I have the same problem, but i haven't coded anything. They just turned off one day and never came back on

But coding may be still lost between different modules, should be checked via SDS... for example sometimes low voltage may interrupt proper loading of sofware, and coding in not fully ok...

Like in other post, also fault could be in gear selector module, TCU communication, KI, ZGW, EIS...

Dstainton 12-19-2015 12:49 PM

I'm guessing that a crap ecu could do it also? I've got the high speed fan thing going on along with no connection through the obd2

mersum1es 12-19-2015 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Dstainton (Post 6649197)
I'm guessing that a crap ecu could do it also? I've got the high speed fan thing going on along with no connection through the obd2

Sure, fan full speed means no enough voltage to ECU...

hangit06 12-19-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by mersum1es (Post 6572481)
I saw you have thread 'in the dark side' forum too, they are pros using DAS and other tools...

Can you please provide a link to this forum? I searched but can't find it.

Thanks.

John

mersum1es 12-20-2015 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by hangit06 (Post 6649326)
Can you please provide a link to this forum? I searched but can't find it.

Thanks.

John

PM sent :)

giannis_33 02-22-2017 06:49 AM

is it possible to enable on cluster oil temperature-lap time and battery icon like AMG?

Originally Posted by pedroenf (Post 6573175)
I've tried a few yes. I spent a lot of time translating all the options in development. I found that one too, the only one apparently related to gear box display. I'll try latter on tonight again. Here is the translation (google one)

aus - out
ein - on
manuell - manually
nicht erlaubt - not allowed
nicht - not
erlaubt - allowed
alt - old

nachleuchtzeit innenlicht - Interior light afterglow

scheinwerferaufschaltung - headlight intrusion

tagfahrlicht - daytime running lights

einheit wegstrecke - unit distance

einheit aussentemperatur - unit outside temperature

automatische turverriegelung - automatic door locks

auswahl anzeige in statuszeile - Select display in status bar

Vmax-begrenzung(winterreifen) - Vmax limit (winter tires)

sprache - language

audiomodus - audio mode

anhängerverlustwarnung - Trailer Grain Loss Warning

spiegeleinstellung - mirror adjustment

umschaltung 12/24 - switching 12/24

einstellung datum - setting date

umfeldbeleuchtung - ambient lighting

klimatisierung lenkrad - Cooling steering Wheel

druckeinheit - printing unit

fahrdynamischer seitenhalt fahrer - driving dynamics lateral support driver

ambientes licht - ambient lighting

taxi-dachzeichen - Taxi roof sign

fahrdynamischer seitenhalt beifahrer - driving dynamics lateral support passenger

taxi oder privat - taxi or private

schlüsselabhängigkeit - key dependence

spiegel anklappen - folding in mirror

heckdeckel - trunk lid

sommer/winterzeitumstellung autom - summer / winter time changeover Auto

abblendlicht - dimmed headlights

wegstrecke - distance

außentemperatureinheit - outside temperature unit

automatische türverriegelung - automatic door locks

anzeige in statuszeile - display in status bar

aussentemperatur - outside temperature

geschwindigkeit - speed

anzeig im grundbild - ad in the main screen

einstiegshilfe - access aid

zuheizer - heater

anzeige uhr - display clock

werkseinstellungen - default settings

komplette tankdatensätze - complete tank records

komplette texte für datenfunk - complete texts for radio data transmission

reiserechner - trip computer

variantencodierung menü-werkseinstellungen - variant coding menu factory settings

variantencodierung schlüsselkonfig - variant coding key config

manuell über konfigurationsmenu - manually via the configuration menu

heckdeckel öffnungsbegrenzung - boot lid opening restrictor

vorzeitiger abbruch gurtwarnung - Premature discontinuation seat belt warning

kein vorzeit. abbruch - no past. demolition
kein vorzeitig. abbruch - no Prematurely. demolition
vorzeitig. abbruch - prematurely. demolition
vorzeit. abbruch - prehistoric. demolition

gurtwarnung - Seat belt warning

ab motorstart - from engine start

nicht vorhanden - unavailable

vorhanden - available

bsg warnungen - bsg warnings

darstellung status zv-notöffnung - Display Status ZV emergency opening

aux bedienbarkeit bei KI15Raus - aux operability at KI15Raus

wecken über lenkradtasten - wake on steering wheel buttons

uk-variante - uk version

einheit tacho-skala - unit speedometer scale

vreg fahrerbedienung in statuszeile - VREG driver's operation in status bar

uhrsynchronisation mit HU - Clock synchronization with HU

außendisplay - external screen

sprachfunk - voice radio

möglich - possible

tankgeberfestsitzerkennung - Fuel sender fixed detection

tankgeberfestsitzerkennung mit x gebern - Fuel sender fixed detection donors with x

einstieg in service menü - entry into service menu

cancel-taste - cancel button

abhängig von eventmaske - depending on event mask

unabhängig von eventmaske - regardless of event mask

kontroll-lampe (nur bis vorserie) - indicator light (only up to pre-production)

anzahl tankgeber vorhanden - Number of fuel sender available

gurt - belt (cinto)

gurt akustik - belt acoustic

handbremse - and brake

lichtwarnung - light alarm

art-info bei lampentest - art-info at lamp test

gurtwarnung display - belt warning display

tempomat - cruise control

v-reg signale vom id 210 auswerten - evaluate v-reg signals from the ID 210

lichtwarnung autom. fahrlicht - light alarm Auto. Driving light

bremswarnung - breake warning

dämpfung bargraphen - bargraph damping

verdecksteuergerät - convertible top control unit

abbruch der schlüsselwarnung nach 30s - Demolition of the key warning after 30s

epc displaymeldung - epc display message

darstellung des hintergrundsymbols - Presentation of background symbols

klappbox warnungen - folding warnings

reiserechner - trip computer

reifendrucküberwachung - tire pressure monitoring

vgl-displaywarnung - see display warning

vgl-lampe - see lamp

kurvenlicht warnung - headlights warning

datumsanzeige grundbildebene - date display basic image plane

bremsbelagverschleißwarnung - Brake pad wear warning

rußpartikelfilter warnung - particulate filter warning

vereinheitlichte ganganzeige - unified gear indicator

tachokennlinie - tacho characteristic

mobilitätskonto - mobility account

k-zahl - knumber

tachokennliniensymmetrie - tacho characteristic symmetry

symmetrisch - symmetric
unsymmetrisch - asymmetrically

rücksetzintervall - reset interval

eeprom-wert - eeprom value

darstellung geschw.-warnung - representation Velocity warning

tankinfo im reichweitenbild - tank info in Range image

menü RR: reichweite/tankinfo - Menu RR: Range / tank info

exception handler lampe - ExceptionHandler lamp

bild unterspannung - Picture undervoltage

bild überspannung - Picture Surge

wegstreckeeinheit für tachorückstellung - distance unit for tacho reset

verbrauchsanzeige km - consumption indicator

ölstandsanzeigen - oil level display

schalter - switch

fernlicht erlaubt - fernlicht allowed

kraftstoff filter warnung - fuel filter warning

reiserechner anzeige bei reserve mit - trip computer display with reserve with

strichen - painted

werten - cheap

wasser im kraftstoff warnung - water in fuel warning

KI ist programmiert, sommerausgabe - KI is programmed summer edition

einheit dtr-skala - unit DTR-scale

tankdeckelinfo - tank lid info

gwsz-vorstellung - gwsz concept

tankreservewarnung - fuel reserve warning

nicht definiert - not defined

serviceanzeige - service display

ölstandsanzeige - Oil level indicator

ölsensorwarnung - oil sensor warning

darstellung text aus eeprom - display text from EEPROM

elektrohydraulisch bremse - electro-hydraulic brake

wartungsrechner expertenmodus - maintenance computer expert mode

segmentring - segment ring

format datumsanzeige - format date display

wartungsrechner werkstattmodus - maintenance computer workshop mode

bedienhinweis fds - operating note fds

sollwert - setpoint


pedroenf 02-22-2017 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by giannis_33 (Post 7063698)
is it possible to enable on cluster oil temperature-lap time and battery icon like AMG?

Do not know :( You have to try it.

Mackhack 10-28-2017 12:35 PM

I did it for a lot of people. This is nothing you do with your Star Diagnosis though.

giannis_33 10-28-2017 02:34 PM

Can you check the proccess? I checked all the das cluster but I couldn’t find it...
QUOTE=Mackhack;7298055]I did it for a lot of people. This is nothing you do with your Star Diagnosis though.[/QUOTE]

Mackhack 10-28-2017 09:12 PM

What process do you mean? You can contact me via PM if you need me to do it for you.

enzo80 11-17-2017 10:12 AM

Can anybody tell me the right w211 ignition-on can comands ??
I have searched the web but nothing found.
I have tested
ID = 0x000 with 1 byte 0xFF.
These seems not right for ignition on ?????

Many thanks in advance


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