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relinuca 08-10-2017 07:43 AM

Transfer Case gear oil
 
At my next engine oil change, I intend to have the Transfer Case gear oil changed, too.


What product/weight is recommended for the TC?


relinuca


PS: '09 E350 4Matic

Plutoe 08-10-2017 03:08 PM

Post your VIN and Konigstar will tell you!

relinuca 08-11-2017 07:13 AM

VIN posting
 
VIN: WDBUF87X79B410800


...hope this helps.

Plutoe 08-11-2017 09:11 AM

See AR2810P2500P for the rather detailed non DIY transfer case oil change procedure which is .59 liters of 001 989 23 03(236.17 75W85 gear oil)

konigstiger 08-11-2017 03:12 PM

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MB current part # 001989230310

Sleeper Benz 08-12-2017 10:59 AM

Thanks for the info.

Interesting how MB wants you to disconnect the drive shaft so you can get at the top "filler" hole, then instructs you to look in the "inspection" hole to check the fluid level.

This was pointed out in another post. So basically as I understand it, you do not have to get at the "filler" hole and just add the fluid thru the "inspection" hole which is way easier to get at.

I can only assume they want you to add it thru the filler hole so fluid will seep down over the internal components? Just doesn't make sense :smash:

warpedworld 11-07-2017 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sleeper Benz (Post 7237167)
Thanks for the info.

Interesting how MB wants you to disconnect the drive shaft so you can get at the top "filler" hole, then instructs you to look in the "inspection" hole to check the fluid level.

This was pointed out in another post. So basically as I understand it, you do not have to get at the "filler" hole and just add the fluid thru the "inspection" hole which is way easier to get at.

I can only assume they want you to add it thru the filler hole so fluid will seep down over the internal components? Just doesn't make sense :smash:

Hi,
I know this thread is a bit older, but I am currently going through the entire driveline with my recently acquired 2006 E350 4matic, and happen to have the transfer case on my bench right now. At first glance, I did feel the same way, but after having to remove the case anyways and open it up, it does make sense as to why they want you to fill from the top plug. There is a cavity up top that houses the planetary. It sits right behind the round cover plate where the top plug is located. Inside that planetary cavity, towards the back, is another oil passage that allows the oil to flow down into the lower part of the case. The passage is located around the 3 o'clock position. So, that being said, when you fill from up top, the oil first fills the planetary cavity until it reaches the oil passage hole, then it heads down to bottom of case and fills upwards until it starts weeping out of inspection port. In this way, you know you have all cavities correctly filled. It may or may not make much of a difference if you believe the upper cavity is still full when you do a drain and fill from below. But.... if the t- case is already low on oil, you wont be putting the full amount back in.
Ask me how I know? Well the previous owner did the same thing you describe. Never used the top plug, only the lower plugs. I could tell by the witness marks or lack thereof on the top one. I was chasing down a low growl in my driveline. When I finally got into the t-case, I found the needle bearings on the output shaft were destroyed from lack of oil. It also took out the output shaft splines from . Sorry so long winded, but hope this little story saves someone else the same fate. I'm learning quick on these MB issues. Some days I hate the car, others not so much.
I also should add that those parts I just mentioned that failed sit up high, and are the first to go dry when oil is low.
Rich

Sleeper Benz 11-11-2017 12:22 PM

Thanks for the tip. I was wondering how much fluid is up inside there that may not get changed when you change the fluid from below. You would think that that fluid from the bottom gets pumped/ tossed up into the upper clutch pack casing area from below somehow and maintains that 3 o'clock sump level then. Am I understanding that even though you check the fluid level from the inspection port and it shows good there could be no fluid in the top section? IF there is an internal port at 3 o'clock that drains back into the lower section of the casing you would think that would drain over time through the hole due to movement of the vehicle and never get replenished if there was no way to pump/ splash fluid back up there? Sounds like there was another way the fluid from the top area was making it's way down into the bottom area of your T-Case and didn't provide enough of a continuous fluid bath up there?

Something is not making sense and now has me a bit worried. I put in the recommenced MB fluid in using the recommended verified level...hmmmm.

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vpipis 04-15-2019 09:36 PM

Hi all
I took my car to a new Mercedes mechanic that came highly recommended in NYC for a transfer case fluid change, and after he emptied the fluid out of my case it turned out he only had Manual Transmission oil, SAE 75W-90, Actros, and he used that. I argued that I thought there was a different fluid needed but he told me it is fine and there was an MB guideline out specifying the oil he used as a better choice. I cannot find any such reference anywhere, if anyone knows if it is ok please let me know as I am not sure at all.
2006 E350 4MATIC vin WDBUF87J16X200235
thank you

Redwood415 04-17-2019 02:40 PM

Fuchs Sintoid gear oil 75W85, same as rear diff. Approx $35 per Liter.

konigstiger 04-17-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vpipis (Post 7733060)
transfer case fluid change

MB requirement ATF 0019892303 IMHO current fluid needs to be replaced.

vpipis 04-17-2019 05:20 PM

Redwood are you saying the the gear oil 75W-90 is fine in the transfer case despite the 236.13 call for ATF?
Konigstiger, how could one flush the gear oil out of the transfer case before going back to ATF 236.13?
thank you both

konigstiger 04-18-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by vpipis (Post 7734637)
Konigstiger, how could one flush the gear oil out of the transfer case before going back to ATF 236.13?

See “Check and correct oil level of transfer case” attachment in post 5. Note in searching 0019892303 you will find current part # is 001989230310.

vpipis 04-18-2019 10:41 AM

Thank you Konigstiger, my concern is if the gear oil being so thick adheres on the transfer case parts and does not drain out adequately, and then does not mix well with the 236.13 ATF. Fill transfer case with ATF and then empty again to flush?

konigstiger 04-18-2019 10:51 AM

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Use method in attached bulletin.

e350forme 04-18-2019 12:58 PM

Can i just use ATF 4143 that I have left over from my tranny fluid drain / fill ?

Or should I be using my gear oil from rear dif change? In my case, liquid moly 75w85/90

Redwood415 04-18-2019 01:34 PM

If the spec sheet says ATF I would definitely roll with that. I know on most domestic applications for transfer cases it is usually ATF so that makes sense. to rule out any confusion call your dealer parts counter, have them plug in your VIN# and they will tell you a definitive answer.

e350forme 04-18-2019 02:06 PM

# 001989230310 is the correct ATF, bottle is blue.. "transfer case fluid", correct fluid for our W211s ....I will use my Fuchs Titan ATF 4134 that I have left over


and the yellow bottle is also transfer case oil but it is "hyphoid oil" which is gear oil, used in ML/w163 among other cars.....the 75w85w which our dif's would be happy with but not transfer case


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