'06 E350 - SBC Recall - What's covered?
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'06 E350 - SBC Recall - What's covered?
Inherited a 2006 E350 with the lovely SBC hydraulic brake system from a family friend, it has 115k miles.
The vehicle needs quite a bit of TLC, but surprisingly very clean on the undercarriage and running with no check engine lights.
The only issue I'm working towards is resolving a 'BRAKE Visit Workshop' and hood ajar (which I understand to be a simple switch) message.
All brake pads appear to be nice and thick, from my basic research it seems brake pad wear sensors would indicate a WEAR message. Stop switch has been replaced with no change in fault message.
I referenced recall #2005110001 with the MB dealer, but they notified me that if they diag and find a part that's NOT covered, then I would be liable for the $260 diag fee. I'm pretty handy working on cars, but don't have the fancy scanner/MB specific diagnosis tools (though I DO have INPA for BMW.. so if it's similar I would be happy to go through the effort, though it seems MB has made it much more difficult).
So, what parts are covered by the recall? I've seen in some cases the recall covers literally anything but wear sensors, but pump, harness, wheel sensors, etc.
I'd just like to go into the MB dealer with a bit more knowledge, thanks!
The vehicle needs quite a bit of TLC, but surprisingly very clean on the undercarriage and running with no check engine lights.
The only issue I'm working towards is resolving a 'BRAKE Visit Workshop' and hood ajar (which I understand to be a simple switch) message.
All brake pads appear to be nice and thick, from my basic research it seems brake pad wear sensors would indicate a WEAR message. Stop switch has been replaced with no change in fault message.
I referenced recall #2005110001 with the MB dealer, but they notified me that if they diag and find a part that's NOT covered, then I would be liable for the $260 diag fee. I'm pretty handy working on cars, but don't have the fancy scanner/MB specific diagnosis tools (though I DO have INPA for BMW.. so if it's similar I would be happy to go through the effort, though it seems MB has made it much more difficult).
So, what parts are covered by the recall? I've seen in some cases the recall covers literally anything but wear sensors, but pump, harness, wheel sensors, etc.
I'd just like to go into the MB dealer with a bit more knowledge, thanks!
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Your dealer was very kind,.if you are sure that your car has SBC and not the ABR.
In EU the exchanging program for SBC is no more available from many years.
The Bosch company can give you a good price ( at least here in EU) to replace your expired SBC with a remanufactured one
Also, if the SBC is not very noisy you can try to reset the counter with one of the solution from the web.
In EU the exchanging program for SBC is no more available from many years.
The Bosch company can give you a good price ( at least here in EU) to replace your expired SBC with a remanufactured one
Also, if the SBC is not very noisy you can try to reset the counter with one of the solution from the web.
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If you're in the US, it's a 25 year extended warranty not a recall. Get a scanner that can read MB specific codes, Autel AP2500E on Amazon is only around $60 and can read all MB specific codes. Don't clear the brake codes though, dealer needs to see those in order to do the repair.
And don't reset the counter, it's just an anticipated fail warning, once you reset it, it will probably fail before you hit the counter again. Then you lose 90% of your braking. All 2006 models in the US had SBC. And the 2006 models also had the bad balance shaft. Hope that doesn't go on you.
And don't reset the counter, it's just an anticipated fail warning, once you reset it, it will probably fail before you hit the counter again. Then you lose 90% of your braking. All 2006 models in the US had SBC. And the 2006 models also had the bad balance shaft. Hope that doesn't go on you.
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Your dealer was very kind,.if you are sure that your car has SBC and not the ABR.
In EU the exchanging program for SBC is no more available from many years.
The Bosch company can give you a good price ( at least here in EU) to replace your expired SBC with a remanufactured one
Also, if the SBC is not very noisy you can try to reset the counter with one of the solution from the web.
In EU the exchanging program for SBC is no more available from many years.
The Bosch company can give you a good price ( at least here in EU) to replace your expired SBC with a remanufactured one
Also, if the SBC is not very noisy you can try to reset the counter with one of the solution from the web.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/8443...ml#post8765392
https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/8443...ml#post8776643
I would not advise the resetting of the counter. Get it replaced, you do not want the brakes to fail (it happended to me)
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I just had the SBC unit replaced on my ‘04 E500 under the warranty. My warning was red, but the one on my wife’s car is currently white, however she has the fault for pressure. The scan tool is your friend and will help get it covered by the dealer.
BTW, that’s a healthy diag fee for your dealer!
BTW, that’s a healthy diag fee for your dealer!
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The tip of the Autel AP2500E is excellent, I have one on order now.
@nd-photo.nl , was your warning red or white? Nevermind - saw your thread and it's red.
I'm seeing most red warnings are getting the warranty, but haven't seen much about the white/normal warnings.
If you run up the # of counts, is that covered? I suspect that might be the case here since we're at 117k and mostly urban driving.
I hope the Autel will come in handy and this is a simple fix without a dealer visit - I don't want to pay that $260 diag just for a tech to plug in a scanner and kick back a code that isn't covered...
@nd-photo.nl , was your warning red or white? Nevermind - saw your thread and it's red.
I'm seeing most red warnings are getting the warranty, but haven't seen much about the white/normal warnings.
If you run up the # of counts, is that covered? I suspect that might be the case here since we're at 117k and mostly urban driving.
I hope the Autel will come in handy and this is a simple fix without a dealer visit - I don't want to pay that $260 diag just for a tech to plug in a scanner and kick back a code that isn't covered...
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My 2005 E55 with SBC had the white visit brake shop warning. The problem was the pressure accumulator and the dealer replaced it at no charge to me and they even washed my car!
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Autel scanner picked up 63 DTCs (LOL), but most were due to under voltage; car has been sitting for awhile. The ones I cared about the most were with the SBC (or I guess it understands it as ABR)
Fault codes: 9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')
ABR codes: C2230, C2210, C0CAE, C0B40, C240
If you're curious to the full report:
https://autel-inspection-report-fron...f0a51c1a080948
Not finding much searching these specific codes to see if the extended warranty covers these.
I'm going to try and see if I can find the pressure accumulator pressure (68 bar?), which is typically what fails and is hit/miss on being covered.
Then I will likely do a full wipe of the DTCs and start daily driving the car and seeing what returns.
If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears!
If the brake error comes back and I'm still clueless, I may be making a visit to the dealer before I continue to shine up this pile.
Fault codes: 9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')
ABR codes: C2230, C2210, C0CAE, C0B40, C240
If you're curious to the full report:
https://autel-inspection-report-fron...f0a51c1a080948
Not finding much searching these specific codes to see if the extended warranty covers these.
I'm going to try and see if I can find the pressure accumulator pressure (68 bar?), which is typically what fails and is hit/miss on being covered.
Then I will likely do a full wipe of the DTCs and start daily driving the car and seeing what returns.
If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears!
If the brake error comes back and I'm still clueless, I may be making a visit to the dealer before I continue to shine up this pile.
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2008 E350 4Matic, 2011 E350 4matic
Autel scanner picked up 63 DTCs (LOL), but most were due to under voltage; car has been sitting for awhile. The ones I cared about the most were with the SBC (or I guess it understands it as ABR)
Fault codes: 9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')
ABR codes: C2230, C2210, C0CAE, C0B40, C240
If you're curious to the full report:
https://autel-inspection-report-fron...f0a51c1a080948
Not finding much searching these specific codes to see if the extended warranty covers these.
I'm going to try and see if I can find the pressure accumulator pressure (68 bar?), which is typically what fails and is hit/miss on being covered.
Then I will likely do a full wipe of the DTCs and start daily driving the car and seeing what returns.
If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears!
If the brake error comes back and I'm still clueless, I may be making a visit to the dealer before I continue to shine up this pile.
Fault codes: 9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')
ABR codes: C2230, C2210, C0CAE, C0B40, C240
If you're curious to the full report:
https://autel-inspection-report-fron...f0a51c1a080948
Not finding much searching these specific codes to see if the extended warranty covers these.
I'm going to try and see if I can find the pressure accumulator pressure (68 bar?), which is typically what fails and is hit/miss on being covered.
Then I will likely do a full wipe of the DTCs and start daily driving the car and seeing what returns.
If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears!
If the brake error comes back and I'm still clueless, I may be making a visit to the dealer before I continue to shine up this pile.
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If it's a code I know they're not going to cover, I'd rather skip the hassle and work towards the solution myself.
I suppose you are right though, might be a hassle to get the SBC specific code back.
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I drove around and the code didn't clear, did end up taking it into the dealer and it was covered.
For any future Google's references:
MB found code C2131 Pressure Reservoir faulty (Autel did NOT find it, but DID find "9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')"
Replacement was for: 1 000-430-26-94 Pressure Reservoir and 1 000-989-56-05-09-0109 Brake Fluid.
They performed a brake fluid flush after replacing the reservoir and everything is cleared and covered by the extended warranty. Sweet!
Brake flush was a big bonus as I hear bleeding brakes with SBC is near impossible without the proper tooling.
Now on to the rest of the maintenance of the vehicle; thanks all!
Also my service advisor was awesome and provided me with the codes and all components that would be covered.
Damage Code 53 584 - Control Unit SBC
Damage Code 42 392 - Technical Retrofit
Damage Code 43 102 - Hydraulic Unit, Traction System (System Threshold Reached Claims Only)
Damage Code 43 A08 - RPM sensor, left front axle
Damage Code 43 A08 - RPM sensor, left rear axle
Damage Code 43 N09 - RPM sensor, right front axle
Damage Code 43 N09 - RPM sensor, right rear axle
Damage Code 43 007 - SBC Actuation Unit
Damage Code 43 102 - Hydraulic Unit, traction system
Damage Code 43 158 - Yaw Rate Sensor
Damage Code 43 159 - Pressure Reservoir, hydraulic unit
Damage Code 43 181 - Control Unit, Traction System
Damage Code 54 311 - Brake light switch
Damage Code 53 584 - Control Unit SBC
For any future Google's references:
MB found code C2131 Pressure Reservoir faulty (Autel did NOT find it, but DID find "9034 (Operational fault of component 'A7/3n1 (Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) module)')"
Replacement was for: 1 000-430-26-94 Pressure Reservoir and 1 000-989-56-05-09-0109 Brake Fluid.
They performed a brake fluid flush after replacing the reservoir and everything is cleared and covered by the extended warranty. Sweet!
Brake flush was a big bonus as I hear bleeding brakes with SBC is near impossible without the proper tooling.
Now on to the rest of the maintenance of the vehicle; thanks all!
Also my service advisor was awesome and provided me with the codes and all components that would be covered.
Damage Code 53 584 - Control Unit SBC
Damage Code 42 392 - Technical Retrofit
Damage Code 43 102 - Hydraulic Unit, Traction System (System Threshold Reached Claims Only)
Damage Code 43 A08 - RPM sensor, left front axle
Damage Code 43 A08 - RPM sensor, left rear axle
Damage Code 43 N09 - RPM sensor, right front axle
Damage Code 43 N09 - RPM sensor, right rear axle
Damage Code 43 007 - SBC Actuation Unit
Damage Code 43 102 - Hydraulic Unit, traction system
Damage Code 43 158 - Yaw Rate Sensor
Damage Code 43 159 - Pressure Reservoir, hydraulic unit
Damage Code 43 181 - Control Unit, Traction System
Damage Code 54 311 - Brake light switch
Damage Code 53 584 - Control Unit SBC
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I use a Solar BA-5 battery tester (which is no longer available). I use mine on the battery(ies) every time I change the oil. When the battery gets to ~60% CCA capacity, I replace the battery.
Do a search on "battery testers". Worth every penny in preventive maintenance.
Better than waiting for the battery to fail to start the car after flipping the bird at some bikers at a bar...
Do a search on "battery testers". Worth every penny in preventive maintenance.
Better than waiting for the battery to fail to start the car after flipping the bird at some bikers at a bar...
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Car has other issues, going to pick it up tomorrow and decide what to do with it, will probably send it to the local pick and pull or other scrap yard.
It is a nice car, just more than I want to deal with and invest in. These old E-Classes don't bring much on FB marketplace.
It is a nice car, just more than I want to deal with and invest in. These old E-Classes don't bring much on FB marketplace.
