**Official Price Thread**
12-04-2009, 02:56 PM
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Lexus IS 350 F Sport
I went to the dealer recently to get pricing on this car and my salesman said that MB did a few things different this year:
1. Lowered residual values of all their cars for leases
2. Has/will lower total production numbers and create a low supply
3. Using a higher interest rate than previous years
As a result, I was sticker shocked at the new numbers.
My previous deal was so much better.
My lease will be up early next year but I am not sure what I am going to do.
I may have to check with BMW and Audi and see if they are more flexible.
Any truth to what my salesman told me?
1. Lowered residual values of all their cars for leases
2. Has/will lower total production numbers and create a low supply
3. Using a higher interest rate than previous years
As a result, I was sticker shocked at the new numbers.
My previous deal was so much better.
My lease will be up early next year but I am not sure what I am going to do.
I may have to check with BMW and Audi and see if they are more flexible.
Any truth to what my salesman told me?
i guess he failed to tell you that the new E is actually a few thousand dollars cheaper than last year's E 
??
12-12-2009, 08:22 PM
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E350 Sedan, P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama roof
City/State: LA, CA
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
12-13-2009, 09:59 AM
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City/State: LA, CA
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
12-16-2009, 11:47 PM
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Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Just FYI for you guys. I stopped by an Indie Dealer today to help look for a car for a friend, they have an E-Sedan, with the "Premium" wheels, etc. They're selling it for like $47K if I remember correctly, has just like 3-5K Miles on it.
Got me curious enough to see what these cars are going for slightly Used, some CPO models (MUCH better Warranty then what you get if you buy it new) are going for high $40's (E350). We're talking like 800-3K Miles. Good option if someone's not looking to Lease. Give it some odd months and you'll see cars with less than 10K Miles going for easy $40's or better, again, with a much better than new Warranty.
Something to consider for potential buyers.
Got me curious enough to see what these cars are going for slightly Used, some CPO models (MUCH better Warranty then what you get if you buy it new) are going for high $40's (E350). We're talking like 800-3K Miles. Good option if someone's not looking to Lease. Give it some odd months and you'll see cars with less than 10K Miles going for easy $40's or better, again, with a much better than new Warranty.
Something to consider for potential buyers.
12-26-2009, 08:23 PM
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BMW Z4
How was this deal?
2010 e350 sport sedan RWD- DEMO - came with 7100 miles...
p2, drivers assist, leather pano, parktronic, multicontour seat, accessory styling, split folding, read airbags, metallic paint, and wheel package (I think i got it all) MSRP was $65895 - i paid 56000 - lease payment of $774/mo (including 9% tax from PA) with $1500 cap reduction and coming off lease...
Any thoughts?
2010 e350 sport sedan RWD- DEMO - came with 7100 miles...
p2, drivers assist, leather pano, parktronic, multicontour seat, accessory styling, split folding, read airbags, metallic paint, and wheel package (I think i got it all) MSRP was $65895 - i paid 56000 - lease payment of $774/mo (including 9% tax from PA) with $1500 cap reduction and coming off lease...
Any thoughts?
12-26-2009, 08:32 PM
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Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Hmm, I dunno, that's quite a bit of Mileage, and it's a Demo.... Maybe not bad since it's well Loaded though. however I do know that P1 models with 7K Miles-ish are able to be found for mid-high $40's.
12-27-2009, 11:11 PM
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E350
Leased in Torrance, CA
New 2010 E350 with P1 package, sports package and metallic paint
Traded in an existing 2007 E350 lease w/2 remaining payments
MSRP = $54,145
$2000 total drive-off (including 1st payment)
$675/month for 39 months, including tax (whopping 9.75% in Los Angeles County)
12,000 miles per year
New 2010 E350 with P1 package, sports package and metallic paint
Traded in an existing 2007 E350 lease w/2 remaining payments
MSRP = $54,145
$2000 total drive-off (including 1st payment)
$675/month for 39 months, including tax (whopping 9.75% in Los Angeles County)
12,000 miles per year
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12-28-2009, 03:03 PM
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2010 E350 Sport 4 Matic, 2008 Lexus GX470, 03 SVT Cobra, 08 F250 Twin Turbo Diesel, 07' Lexus ES350
2010 E350 Sport 4Matic P2 with AMG Wheel Upgrade. $59,075 MSRP
$2,300 out of pocket Total
$749/month 39 months 15k miles per year including all taxes
From what I'm told this was a GREAT deal.....
$2,300 out of pocket Total
$749/month 39 months 15k miles per year including all taxes
From what I'm told this was a GREAT deal.....
12-28-2009, 03:18 PM
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What is your color ????
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12-28-2009, 10:36 PM
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2012 ML 350
Regulation M - Consumer Leasing Act
Regulation M implements the consumer leasing portions of the Truth in Lending Act. The purpose of Regulation M is to assure that lessees of personal property are given accurate and meaningful disclosures of the terms and conditions of personal property leases. These disclosures allow consumers to compare various lease terms or to compare lease terms with credit terms.
As far as taxes go, different state/counties have different rates.
It would be helpful to have the amount of taxes broken out.
Bottom Line, When you and your dealer sit down and agree on a price for a leased car, this becomes the capitalized cost, or "cap cost."
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12-28-2009, 10:46 PM
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Although this information is somewhat helpful the Capitalized Cost of the lease is missing. (actual disclosed purchase price in a lease)
Bottom Line, When you and your dealer sit down and agree on a price for a leased car, this becomes the capitalized cost, or "cap cost."
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Bottom Line, When you and your dealer sit down and agree on a price for a leased car, this becomes the capitalized cost, or "cap cost."
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the bottom line is still the same....- payment, miles per year. length of a lease and Money Due at sign in..
BTW..you never told us your deal ? Is it a secret ??? Tell us your Cap Cost and payment
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12-28-2009, 11:11 PM
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Why do you need to know Cap cost if you talking about leasing and have no intention to buy a car at the end of your lease ?? the bottom line in every lease is money due at sign in and monthly payment. Give me MB for $300 a month with $2,000 due at sign in and I don't care what is Cap cost and residual at the end.....Of course..if you wanna buy a car at the end - it's another story... You will prob say that lease price depends on Cap Cost..and you'll be right...but...
the bottom line is still the same....- payment, miles per year. length of a lease and Money Due at sign in..
BTW..you never told us your deal ? Is it a secret ??? Tell us your Cap Cost and payment))
the bottom line is still the same....- payment, miles per year. length of a lease and Money Due at sign in..
BTW..you never told us your deal ? Is it a secret ??? Tell us your Cap Cost and payment
))IMO, I don't think others want to figure out a Jigsaw Puzzle when they can just be informed of the CAP COST so that they can accurately compare pricing whether they PURCHASED OR LEASED.
Buyers on the forum have:
Different Tax Rates
Different Money Factors depending on when the car was purchased due to MB programs at the time of purchase.
Different License Fees due to state, county or city
Different Dealer Delivery fees and charges.
Different Length in months
Not everyone leases and this thread does not just include lease payments.
I hope this satisfies your curiosity on "why I need to know Cap Cost"
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I will happily share my purchase price with you as soon as I'm comfortable that your
is not BS.I hope other forum members are not offended by this post but I feel "aeggroup" is needlessly agitating. If not, then I apologize now for my interpretation.
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12-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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2012 ML 350
City/State: New York, NY
2010 E350 4Matic Black/black MB tex
Month/Year leased: 11/24/09
What packages: P2 & 18" AMG Twin 6-Spoke wheel
MSRP $59,075, sales price $52,800.
Lease payment : $774.12 for 39 months includes NY tax.
Due at sign in : $2,143.00 - Bank fee, first payment, DMV fees.
2010 E350 4Matic Black/black MB tex
Month/Year leased: 11/24/09
What packages: P2 & 18" AMG Twin 6-Spoke wheel
MSRP $59,075, sales price $52,800.
Lease payment : $774.12 for 39 months includes NY tax.
Due at sign in : $2,143.00 - Bank fee, first payment, DMV fees.
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12-29-2009, 08:48 AM
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12-29-2009, 08:52 AM
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you funny..and silly...
12-29-2009, 10:22 AM
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2008 - S550 4Matic, 2010 - E350 4Matic, 2010 - C350 4Matic
I don't think these numbers are a big help, because all purchases are different. In my case, I have a trade-in car and that changes everything.
In Canada, the salesman can show you the new car, but when it comes to leasing the deal is forwarded to dead office and they establish the price and that is it. If you think for a minute these guys would sell you a car below cost, a brand new model that has a waiting list, then you believe too that the Americans landed a man on the moon.
The same goes for the trade-in car. They call in the car to head office they come up with a price and that is it, if the local dealer wants to change any price, he can do so, but at his own expense.
Yes there are times when they have the wrong inventory and it has to be moved, but in general to outsmart all the departments is almost impossible, they walk away from the deal.
So in all due respect, if somebody can order a brand new E-Class, that has a waiting period for other orders and gets in excess of $ 10,000.00 off the list price, I find that hard to believe.
Nobody even mentions their trade-in car, I know that is a non issue when it comes to leases. But the last time I saw a lease form, it had more than one line for the price and there are numerous items where they can put the boots to you, some people may not realize that at the time they make the deal, but they will find out, when the lease car is returned.
Maybe I am talking to the wrong salesman.
Jorg
In Canada, the salesman can show you the new car, but when it comes to leasing the deal is forwarded to dead office and they establish the price and that is it. If you think for a minute these guys would sell you a car below cost, a brand new model that has a waiting list, then you believe too that the Americans landed a man on the moon.
The same goes for the trade-in car. They call in the car to head office they come up with a price and that is it, if the local dealer wants to change any price, he can do so, but at his own expense.
Yes there are times when they have the wrong inventory and it has to be moved, but in general to outsmart all the departments is almost impossible, they walk away from the deal.
So in all due respect, if somebody can order a brand new E-Class, that has a waiting period for other orders and gets in excess of $ 10,000.00 off the list price, I find that hard to believe.
Nobody even mentions their trade-in car, I know that is a non issue when it comes to leases. But the last time I saw a lease form, it had more than one line for the price and there are numerous items where they can put the boots to you, some people may not realize that at the time they make the deal, but they will find out, when the lease car is returned.
Maybe I am talking to the wrong salesman.
Jorg
12-29-2009, 10:43 AM
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2010 EClass 350 Sport 4Matic
Just picked up our:
2010 E Class Sport 350 4Matic
Arctic White / MB tex Almond-Black / Prem Pkg 2 / Wheel Pkg / Panoramic Roof / Parktronic
MSRP: $61,095
Sale Price: $57,200 (We traded a car in which is not reflected in this sale price.)
Happy to have this sitting in our garage now
2010 E Class Sport 350 4Matic
Arctic White / MB tex Almond-Black / Prem Pkg 2 / Wheel Pkg / Panoramic Roof / Parktronic
MSRP: $61,095
Sale Price: $57,200 (We traded a car in which is not reflected in this sale price.)
Happy to have this sitting in our garage now
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12-29-2009, 11:01 AM
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I didn't have a Cap Cost to give since I did not lease.
MSRP & minor accessories. : $56170 Purchase Price: $50,555
Issue with "ageggroup" resolved.
Can we now include "CAP COST" in lease postings as it is relevant for comparison to those who do not lease.
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12-29-2009, 11:23 AM
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City/State: LA, CA
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
Model: E350
Month/Year bought: Last night
Packages: P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama Sunroof, Sports Package
MSRP: $59,795. Got it for $51,777.
Purchased it with 10k down and $780 a month for 66 months with 2.9% APR.
Unfortunately, on the way home, I blew 2 tires and the car had to be towed back to the dealer. I'll be picking it up again on Monday... Freakin' worst luck ever!!!
