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Old 02-10-2010, 09:37 PM
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The did import the W211 E63 Estate. And on the AMG PL forums, the MBUSA reps said that they "hoped to" be importing the W212 E63 Estate, but weren't sure this time around. All the W211 E63s Estates were sold (there are none left over.) Despite the smaller market, they did sell all that were brought in.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Possibly so but economic times are quite different now... MBUSA is at the mercy of the home office and the decision will be made in Germany...:-)
Old 02-11-2010, 12:52 AM
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ipp, I know you hate me but I still like your Estate.
Eh... Thanks... Actually I like you! You have a genuine interest in cars, and that I like. Maybe we don't think a like, except about the E63 T, would be a dream having one!
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MB Estate looks bettter than sedan for me...
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Wow, I think you're the first Wagon owner to post anywhere!

Looks nice and cool with all the snow around it.

I'm not a Wagon guy by any means, but I gotta say this is the first time EVER that I have found a Wagon to look a lot better than the Sedan version, the lines and whole look/theme of the 212 IMO works better in Wagon form.

Has a very utilitarian vibe, mixed with the aggressive looks.
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best looking wagon I've ever seen. Really sharp. Congrats.

I agree with everyone above! I usually dislike wagons, but with your new E-Wagon pics, if it ever came to the U.S. I'd actually seriously consider it. The car looks AMAZING... BEST looking 2010 E I've seen (better than the coupe, and MUCH better than the sedan)! In fact, I think I like it almost as much as my W211 w/ AMG Sport Package...
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Seems lots of people are surprising themselves by liking the Wagon more. One Review that was posted somewhere (probably here, too lazy to go and find it) said that not only did they find the Estate to be the nicest version of the new E-Classes, but it isn't as awkward to look at as the Sedan. That kind of goes with what I said earlier, the Wagons proportions are easier on my eyes to figure out, seems the whole package works better in that form, and again, you delete the whole 212's trunk situation.

That's very rare, people stating a WAGON is the nicest version of a family of models that come in both Sedan AND Coupe form.

I think the solid execution of turning the 212 into a Wagon, will hurt the hideous new 5'er GT a bit, although they say it's "not a Wagon" .

Talk about fails. BMW certainly didn't learn from M-B's fumble with the R-Class. Making a smaller and purportedly "cool-ified" equally awkward looking car will be a good way for BMW to throw their $$$$ down the drain.
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Originally Posted by K-A
Seems lots of people are surprising themselves by liking the Wagon more. One Review that was posted somewhere (probably here, too lazy to go and find it) said that not only did they find the Estate to be the nicest version of the new E-Classes, but it isn't as awkward to look at as the Sedan. That kind of goes with what I said earlier, the Wagons proportions are easier on my eyes to figure out, seems the whole package works better in that form, and again, you delete the whole 212's trunk situation.

That's very rare, people stating a WAGON is the nicest version of a family of models that come in both Sedan AND Coupe form.

I think the solid execution of turning the 212 into a Wagon, will hurt the hideous new 5'er GT a bit, although they say it's "not a Wagon" .

Talk about fails. BMW certainly didn't learn from M-B's fumble with the R-Class. Making a smaller and purportedly "cool-ified" equally awkward looking car will be a good way for BMW to throw their $$$$ down the drain.

Yes, it is extremely rare. Before I wasn't even going to consider the W212 when I upgrade in a few years (assuming the face-lift version preserves most of the current looks), but if MB brought the wagon over, then I'd definitely consider it! Not only does it look the best out of the three (by far), but the larger cargo space would really help me out (instead of hauling stuff in my back seat)! Here's hoping!
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Yeah, indeed. I don't have a need for a Wagon, and maybe it's me being so "vein" (or "L.A" ) but I don't know if I could ever pucker up and go for a Wagon, however, if I did, I would be interested in an S212, the fact that every other Wagon looks like a Sedans ******* sibling with a weird growth in their rump area would make that decision even easier, haha.
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Originally Posted by K-A
Yeah, indeed. I don't have a need for a Wagon, and maybe it's me being so "vein" (or "L.A" ) but I don't know if I could ever pucker up and go for a Wagon, however, if I did, I would be interested in an S212, the fact that every other Wagon looks like a Sedans ******* sibling with a weird growth in their rump area would make that decision even easier, haha.
K-A. I still predict that you buy a W212. It will be a 2010 550 in 2 years.

I look forward to you eating a large slice of humble pie when you tell us how the looks have grown on you, and weren't so bad after all.
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K-A. I still predict that you buy a W212. It will be a 2010 550 in 2 years.

I look forward to you eating a large slice of humble pie when you tell us how the looks have grown on you, and weren't so bad after all.
I remember that bet, and you're still on.
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Originally Posted by K-A

I think the solid execution of turning the 212 into a Wagon, will hurt the hideous new 5'er GT a bit, although they say it's "not a Wagon" .

Talk about fails. BMW certainly didn't learn from M-B's fumble with the R-Class. Making a smaller and purportedly "cool-ified" equally awkward looking car will be a good way for BMW to throw their $$$$ down the drain.
BMW's also NOT going to make their new F11 wagon available in the USA! I think MANY will be looking more closely at this beautiful new 212 wagon.
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I've never considered myself a "wagon" kind of guy but I must say that IPP's wagon got me salivating. That is one good looking vehicle. I even went as far as to go to MB's German site and with my very limited German was able to put a wagon together and drool over the different color combinations. Who knows maybe a wagon will be in my future
Old 03-01-2010, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LaicepsYdobon
I've never considered myself a "wagon" kind of guy but I must say that IPP's wagon got me salivating. That is one good looking vehicle. I even went as far as to go to MB's German site and with my very limited German was able to put a wagon together and drool over the different color combinations. Who knows maybe a wagon will be in my future
Go for it! Actually I've noticed that the S212 w. AMG-Styling draws many peoples attention, starting to ask questions at the petrol station and so on..

What does your dream spec looks like?
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Go for it! Actually I've noticed that the S212 w. AMG-Styling draws many peoples attention, starting to ask questions at the petrol station and so on..

What does your dream spec looks like?
I'm sure they will bring a few wagons to the States but when is anyone's guess. I've never had the pleasure to see a W212 wagon with an AMG kit before but I'm sure it would make me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside I really like the color of your wagon but I had a white car before and it was a chore to keep it clean. During my adventures on the German MB site I was looking at Steel Grey and Palladium Silver cars. Even the basic black was just jaw dropping; a little bit like a hearst but still beautiful.
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One more question; what kind of seats do you have ? I was looking in the Picture Section at your car and there is a shot of your interior through the passenger side door. Your seats look deep with extra bolstering. Are those the regular seats ? I don't recall the seats being so deep on the US models when I sat in a W212. Your seats look really comfortable.
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One more question; what kind of seats do you have ?
My seats are called "multi contour seats". They are the same seats with the air bolsters as the "dynamic multi contour seats" but they doesn't have the dynamic features.
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My seats are called "multi contour seats". They are the same seats with the air bolsters as the "dynamic multi contour seats" but they doesn't have the dynamic features.
Thanks; they look very nice
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The 17" Gulshorn wheels look attractive.
They are available under "accessories" for $1700.

How does this work - are they installed by the factory, or at the dealer?
If at the dealer, do you get the other wheels as well? Do they do some credit for the originals?

Would these wheels work with the Sport package?

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The 17" Gulshorn wheels look attractive.
They are available under "accessories" for $1700.

How does this work - are they installed by the factory, or at the dealer?
If at the dealer, do you get the other wheels as well? Do they do some credit for the originals?

Would these wheels work with the Sport package?
They are installed at the dealer. In my case with winter tires and I got my 18" AMG-styling wheels in the trunk for the summer season.

I actually like the gulshorn wheels alot! Fits the car very well!
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Thanks ipp.
I only need one set of wheels with Performance All Season tires like the Michelin Pilot A/S, which is what my dealer has on their C300 4Matic loaner fleet.

Perhaps the dealer would do some trade - I don't want to ask until I'm ready to negotiate.

Did you have to buy additional tire pressure monitoring sensors?
How do you handle tire pressure monitoring recalibration when you switch wheels?
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