2012 E-Class changes - No Airmatic
Following link shows the 2012 e-class changes coming for US model
http://www.benzonly.com/article30.aspx No Airmatic :nix: Still no confirmation for Canadian E-class model, I checked with my salesperson. I hope they include Airmatic for E550 |
What a shame - sounds like a cost cutting exercise to stop the E550 competing with CLS and S550.
The two things I like most about my car are the airmatic suspension and the engine - in that order. The new engine better be good or an E350 would be a better bet. |
Originally Posted by Victor
(Post 4665711)
Following link shows the 2012 e-class changes coming for US model
http://www.benzonly.com/article30.aspx No Airmatic :nix: Still no confirmation for Canadian E-class model, I checked with my salesperson. I hope they include Airmatic for E550 |
This was discussed here. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...2012-fall.html
I'm glad more people are confirming the changes coming in 2012. The 2011 E550 Luxury I ordered arrived on April 25th. I believe I got the last slot the dealer had for 2011 orders. |
Originally Posted by WGB
(Post 4665751)
What a shame - sounds like a cost cutting exercise to stop the E550 competing with CLS and S550.
The 2012 E550 now sound like a POS compared to the W211 V8. |
Very informative read, also I've never been to that site before, thanks for the link!
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This quote from the article is interesting:
Cons: New engines sound weird! It reminds the sound of old Turbo Diesels. Based on the sound, some folks may even think they have some problems or malfunctions in the car. But don't rush to Mercedes service department just yet, because this sound is normal for these new motors. -- This is a longshot, but has anyone here actually had a chance to hear one of the new engines? |
I read about a CL somewhere that had one of the new engines. The author of that article said the engine sounded very nice. Haven't seen "weird" used to describe the new engines.
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I think it refers to a new feature on some V8 engines equipped with ECO Start/Stop. When you start it cold - it sounds like misfiring, but once it warms up - the sound changes to normal. I guess it reduces the emissions and saves some gas, but the side effect is tractor-like sound...
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I like in the individual options that you can get the 19" amg five spokes, that and the color lcd center info center. Besides that, so glad I have a 11' 2wd 550.
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For E550, I have no problem with 4matic only or dropping airmatic all together. IMHO, with all that new torque - 4matic is a must for most people buying it (from FL summer downpours to NE winters).
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Originally Posted by threeMBs
(Post 4666456)
For E550, I have no problem with 4matic only or dropping airmatic all together. IMHO, with all that new torque - 4matic is a must for most people buying it (from FL summer downpours to NE winters).
Besides, 4Matic is proven to eat more gasoline than RWD. And when you try to call your insurance company, the 1st question they ask: is it 2WD or 4WD, and as soon as they hear 4WD - your insurance premium is raised... |
Originally Posted by storm10
(Post 4666485)
I don't see any reason to get 4Matic - regardless of torque, especially in LA. All Worlds best and high performance cars are RWD, including the best sports cars... Even cops drive police interceptor RWD Crown Victoria!...
Originally Posted by storm10
(Post 4666485)
Besides, 4Matic is proven to eat more gasoline than RWD. And when you try to call your insurance company, the 1st question they ask: is it 2WD or 4WD, and as soon as they hear 4WD - your insurance premium is raised...
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Originally Posted by storm10
(Post 4666485)
And when you try to call your insurance company, the 1st question they ask: is it 2WD or 4WD, and as soon as they hear 4WD - your insurance premium is raised...
I don't think the E550 coupe ever had Airmatic, it doesn't have it now if it ever did. The E will also have to wait till 2014 before it gets the new Parktronic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJ175QwiSM |
Originally Posted by storm10
(Post 4666485)
I don't see any reason to get 4Matic - regardless of torque, especially in LA. All Worlds best and high performance cars are RWD, including the best sports cars... Even cops drive police interceptor RWD Crown Victoria!
Besides, 4Matic is proven to eat more gasoline than RWD. And when you try to call your insurance company, the 1st question they ask: is it 2WD or 4WD, and as soon as they hear 4WD - your insurance premium is raised... Your driving habits likely make a far bigger impact on gas mileage than does 4matic. Funny, my insurance co was more interested in the optional safety equipment. I don't remember 4matic being an issue at all. And knowing a little bit about how insurance is priced, the only thing I can think of that would raise the premium is the additional cost to repair or replace, which would not be significant I would think. In fact, if 4matic owners were statistically safer drivers (or a statistically safer demographic) -- plausible perhaps -- then it might go the other way. |
Can't drift a awd or do a burnout..... joke! lol I do use my 550 for a second car, have a cummins 4wd for bad weather, and every day use. I agree that most 550 owners have their cars as a second vehicle. IMOP.
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A bit confused here on why everyone is bashing on the 2012 e550. I am debating between a m3 and e550. Leaning towards the m3 because the torque and the sound. If those are my two most important criteria, should I wait for the 2012 E550, which is supposed to have higher torque and thereby greater sound on lower rpms?
Originally Posted by RobbieRob
(Post 4666955)
Can't drift a awd or do a burnout..... joke! lol I do use my 550 for a second car, have a cummins 4wd for bad weather, and every day use. I agree that most 550 owners have their cars as a second vehicle. IMOP.
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A m3 is 2wd, a 2012 e550 will be awd. Better comparing a m3 to a c63. Two totally different cars you are thinking about, even if it was a 2011 2wd.
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Originally Posted by RobbieRob
(Post 4666987)
A m3 is 2wd, a 2012 e550 will be awd. Better comparing a m3 to a c63. Two totally different cars you are thinking about, even if it was a 2011 2wd.
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I totally understand that. Assuming, however, I do want to get an E550, and also assuming that torque and "grunt" is what I want, should I wait for the 2012 E550 or get the 2011 edition. I read that the engine sounds weird in the 2012?
Originally Posted by RobbieRob
(Post 4666987)
A m3 is 2wd, a 2012 e550 will be awd. Better comparing a m3 to a c63. Two totally different cars you are thinking about, even if it was a 2011 2wd.
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Originally Posted by EDubya
(Post 4666976)
A bit confused here on why everyone is bashing on the 2012 e550. I am debating between a m3 and e550. Leaning towards the m3 because the torque and the sound. If those are my two most important criteria, should I wait for the 2012 E550, which is supposed to have higher torque and thereby greater sound on lower rpms?
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Originally Posted by RobbieRob
(Post 4666955)
I do use my 550 for a second car, have a cummins 4wd for bad weather, and every day use. I agree that most 550 owners have their cars as a second vehicle. IMOP.
When refering to "second" cars, it was meant as a reply to a different poster talking about sports cars and high performace cars (as correctly noted above by someone else, E550 is none of the above - its a luxury car with a kick ass power) being RWD. |
wow, guess that will make mine a little more desirable if I resell?
thanx for the link |
Originally Posted by hyperion667
(Post 4667370)
wow, guess that will make mine a little more desirable if I resell?
thanx for the link |
This information about no airmatic on e550 differs from a post a few weeks ago. Are we sure about this? I for one won't miss the airmatic. I think that it is a flawed suspension which is geared for handling at the expense of comfort. I would gladly take a well designed spring/shock system that finds the proper balance between comfort and handling, historically a Mercedes strength. Regards. Ned.
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