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rovermark 07-16-2011 10:26 PM

Rear indicator lights .. possible to switch to amber?
 
Is it possible to switch the rear indicator light colour from red (North America) to the PROPER colour of amber / orange? European models are amber.

I cannot stand red indicator lights. They have also been shown to be less conspicuous.

K-A 07-17-2011 09:13 AM

Not sure, maybe you'd have to order a Euro unit?

Funny thing, my Cousin who I just saw in France, who is about to buy a W212, said that he envies our "nicer" red LED's, lol. I agree that Orange provides a better safety aspect.

telemakhos 07-18-2011 12:31 AM

+2

I was pleased to see MB keep amber tail signal lights for the past several years when other manufacturers were switching to red. It is a shame that MB is following the crowd in NA. I too wish we had amber lights like Europe, Australia.

hyperion667 07-18-2011 07:36 AM

I like red..........drivers just pay more attention okay? thanx

Victor 07-18-2011 10:48 PM

I prefer yellow amber lights for safety reason, I wish for 2012 they decide to install amber rear signal(indicator) lights.

hyperion667 07-19-2011 07:45 AM

safety?? none of us are safe,

rovermark 07-19-2011 03:22 PM

If I am corrrect they are LEDs, no? Are they a sealed unit though?? Has anyone attempted to switch them? I would love to switch them to amber lights if the cost is not prohibitive and it is not a difficult job that involves trim removal. Does anyone know how much it would cost?

2010e350 07-27-2011 05:42 PM

They are a sealed unit. Does anyone know how to replace this whole unit? any diagrams?

MBTAZ 07-28-2011 10:25 AM

Only way to get is Replace complete Taillight Housing & wiring connecter ( to prevent swapping ) with Non-US spec. units..
I got mine during my last trip..
Ordering is expensive due to euro/dollar exchange rate..
Shipping is a pain due to US customs..

rovermark 07-30-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by MBTAZ (Post 4772727)
Only way to get is Replace complete Taillight Housing & wiring connecter ( to prevent swapping ) with Non-US spec. units..
I got mine during my last trip..
Ordering is expensive due to euro/dollar exchange rate..
Shipping is a pain due to US customs..


Where did you get them from? Germany?

Also, do you remember how many Euros each cost?

sLiQ_e5c 07-30-2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by rovermark (Post 4775185)
Where did you get them from? Germany?

Also, do you remember how many Euros each cost?

I cant believe theres soooo many people complaining about the red and asking for the ugly ass AMBER, im sooo glad they decided to go with red. I dont get what safety reason you guys are talking about, the whats the difference if theres a bright ass RED led blinking or ORANGE, IF someone dosent see ur damn red ones, dont think their gna see the amber ones, it just means their as blind as a bat!... I wish they put the side mirrors red also instead of amber!

MBTAZ 07-30-2011 07:48 PM

Yes, I got them on my last trip to Germany.. Don't recall price..

They say Amber / Orange is easier to see as a difference.. Red Brake & Red Turn Signal is hard to see the difference.. I believe their is a possible law going to make it standard for all manufacturer Amber/Orange Blinkers - for Safety..

K-A 07-30-2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by sLiQ_e5c (Post 4775680)
I cant believe theres soooo many people complaining about the red and asking for the ugly ass AMBER, im sooo glad they decided to go with red. I dont get what safety reason you guys are talking about, the whats the difference if theres a bright ass RED led blinking or ORANGE, IF someone dosent see ur damn red ones, dont think their gna see the amber ones, it just means their as blind as a bat!... I wish they put the side mirrors red also instead of amber!

Because the taillights are too monochromatic. Brake lights, blinker lights, taillights are all red. There needs to be some differentiation for safety's sake. When people see "Amber", they know you're turning. I agree in that red looks much better as an actual color though.

peeta123 07-30-2011 09:55 PM

i like the amber color and would rather have that

its just feels weird when all the other turn signals are amber but not the rear one

the other thing that annoys me is that the side markers dont blink

rovermark 04-09-2012 08:59 AM

To bring back an older topic, does anyone have the part number(s) for the rear light cluster (2011 E) for the orange indicators (rather than the red indicator that is standard on North American models)? Does anyone know how to order from Germany?

Has anyone attempted to replace the lights themselves, and if so, how difficult is it? I would like to replace mine, as my car is mine and not leased, but I am afraid the Canadian dealer may refuse to change them due non-standard (for NA) designation.

Thanks

YYZ-E55 04-09-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by rovermark (Post 5140526)
To bring back an older topic, does anyone have the part number(s) for the rear light cluster (2011 E) for the orange indicators (rather than the red indicator that is standard on North American models)? Does anyone know how to order from Germany?

A 212 820 39 64 - Left Outer Euro
A 212 820 40 64 - Right Outer Euro

You also need the updated connectors, part A 025 545 22 26 (QTY 2).

rovermark 04-10-2012 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by YYZ-E55 (Post 5140585)
A 212 820 39 64 - Left Outer Euro
A 212 820 40 64 - Right Outer Euro


Thank-you for that information.

PHML 04-10-2012 10:26 PM

i agree....wish my rear signal lights were amber.

MBTAZ 04-10-2012 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by YYZ-E55 (Post 5140585)
A 212 820 39 64 - Left Outer Euro
A 212 820 40 64 - Right Outer Euro

..
You will also need a different Wire Connecter for both Outter TailLamp Assy .. I found out when installing my lights.. Both use a 6 pin male connecter but is shaped different..

leapingpoint 04-10-2012 10:36 PM

wow, i didn't even know US models have red indicator lights, i thought US models would have amber lights because the side markers have to be orange in the states...

BM2BZ 04-11-2012 05:41 AM

it's funny that guys who have red want amber and people who have amber want red and most of both groups want clear :rolf:.

rovermark 04-11-2012 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by MBTAZ (Post 5143282)
..
You will also need a different Wire Connecter for both Outter TailLamp Assy .. I found out when installing my lights.. Both use a 6 pin male connecter but is shaped different..

Are those separate cables, that plug into the existing electrical cables without any modification, or do I have to splice them to attach the 6-pin connectors?

YYZ-E55 04-11-2012 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by MBTAZ (Post 5143282)
..
You will also need a different Wire Connecter for both Outter TailLamp Assy .. I found out when installing my lights.. Both use a 6 pin male connecter but is shaped different..

EDIT: MBTAZ is right, the connectors are different. Here is the Euro part number: A 025 545 22 26 (QTY 2).

rovermark 04-11-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by YYZ-E55 (Post 5143859)
EDIT: MBTAZ is right, the connectors are different. Here is the Euro part number: A 025 545 22 26 (QTY 2).

If you don't mind, from where did you order the lights and parts?

ImInPA 04-11-2012 12:29 PM

This thread made me feel like I was taking crazy pills. The red turn signals are a safety issue? You need to put the crack pipe down and step away from the vehicle. I used to love the tail lamps of MBs in the late 70s and 80s. They were red, but the brake and signal lights were very intense and MBs were easily recognizable from a mile away because of the intense red signals and brakes. I think the new 212s are a throwback to those glory days. I love my read tail lamps.


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