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boater07 10-02-2012 12:31 AM

what oil to use?
 
My dealer attached Mobil 1 decal in engine compartment. I inquired what they use and was told 5W-30.
Looking at specs in manual, Mercedes requires 229.5 which the above does not meet.
Has anyone delved into this?

BudC 10-02-2012 10:03 AM

Unless Mercedes have recently gone to the lighter weight oil than 0W-40 Mobil 1 to get better CAFE averages, the oil MB dealers use is 0W-40 Mobil 1 or 5W-40 Mobil 1. The 5W-40 Mobil1 is a low sulfur version of the 0W-40 used in the past. It works for both gas and diesel versions of MB engines.

boater07 10-02-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by BudC (Post 5378699)
Unless Mercedes have recently gone to the lighter weight oil than 0W-40 Mobil 1 to get better CAFE averages, the oil MB dealers use is 0W-40 Mobil 1 or 5W-40 Mobil 1. The 5W-40 Mobil1 is a low sulfur version of the 0W-40 used in the past. It works for both gas and diesel versions of MB engines.

How do you know that Mercedes dealers use 0W-40? My service dept told me
they use 5-40.
My manual calls for spec 229.5 for oil and according to the Mobil website, 0W-40 is the only one to meet that standard.
Now I'm actually doubting what the service guy said. He didn't seem to know
what I was talking about. The oil probably comes out of a large drum

ghstudio 10-02-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by boater07 (Post 5378839)
How do you know that Mercedes dealers use 0W-40? My service dept told me
they use 5-40.
My manual calls for spec 229.5 for oil and according to the Mobil website, 0W-40 is the only one to meet that standard.
Now I'm actually doubting what the service guy said. He didn't seem to know
what I was talking about. The oil probably comes out of a large drum

Drop by your dealer and ask them to show you the oil (can/drum) they put in the cars when servicing them.

theunderlord 10-02-2012 01:17 PM


telemakhos 10-02-2012 07:41 PM

Found this link in one of the C-class forums:

http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show

It is in German, but you can select the MB spec you are interested in and it will show you all the oils that meet it.

konigstiger 10-04-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boater07 (Post 5378411)
Has anyone delved into this?


276 engine – approval # 229.3 & 229.5, approved viscosity 0W-40, 5W-30, and 5W-40

GermanCars 10-04-2012 10:06 PM

On all of our customer cars that call for synthetic oil we use Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40. This product meets the Mercedes 229.5 spec (including AMG) as well as the latest BMW requirement for everything except the M series engines which require 10w60 Motorsport oil. I'm sure Mobil 1 0w40 European Blend or if you can find it, the 5w40 will work just as well. The main thing to remember is you want the 229.5 spec.
Which is not to be confused with 229.51 spec. oil, (usually with green somewhere on the label) made strictly for Diesels with treated exhaust emission components.:shakehead Such as Blue Tech Diesels that use the synthetic cow piss-excuse me, synthetic beef urea post combustion additive.

listerone 10-04-2012 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by GermanCars (Post 5382172)
Which is not to be confused with 229.51 spec. oil, (usually with green somewhere on the label) made strictly for Diesels with treated exhaust emission components.:shakehead Such as Blue Tech Diesels that use the synthetic cow piss-excuse me, synthetic beef urea post combustion additive.

Hey,pal,lay off the diesels! You know what they say,"once you go diesel you never go back"! :)

norcal_cyclist 10-04-2012 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by GermanCars (Post 5382172)
On all of our customer cars that call for synthetic oil we use Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40. This product meets the Mercedes 229.5 spec (including AMG) as well as the latest BMW requirement for everything except the M series engines which require 10w60 Motorsport oil. I'm sure Mobil 1 0w40 European Blend or if you can find it, the 5w40 will work just as well. The main thing to remember is you want the 229.5 spec.
Which is not to be confused with 229.51 spec. oil, (usually with green somewhere on the label) made strictly for Diesels with treated exhaust emission components.:shakehead Such as Blue Tech Diesels that use the synthetic cow piss-excuse me, synthetic beef urea post combustion additive.


Exactly... we've even moved away from the OEM TWS in the M engines for the TOTAL Quartz equivalent. We run an S54 in our Touring car and the Total Quartz is perfect...

DeutscheBenz726 05-09-2019 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by listerone (Post 5382181)
Hey,pal,lay off the diesels! You know what they say,"once you go diesel you never go back"! :)

I had a 2008 E320 BlueTec for one year. Based on my experience Mercedes Benz is lucky they kept me as a customer


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