E550 vs BMW 550i
#401
I really like the 450SEL 6.9 W116 from the 70s overall, although the interior was still less evolved.
#402
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Totally. I've seen some really tacky colors used in there, giving this awkward wanna-be "Vegas Afterparty(Strip)Club at 5AM" feel in what is an elegant and somewhat (tastefully) old-fashioned interior theme. It's stomach churning really. I'd keep it a neutral color, if it was me. Also, the perfume thing is IMO definitely something M-B should avoid. Just let the leather do the talking.
Choices are good and very necessary, but never give the consumers tooooo many choices. Otherwise you'll have the current state of certain S Classes striped in neon purple or hot pink interior lighting. (Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler would NOT APPROVE! ).
Choices are good and very necessary, but never give the consumers tooooo many choices. Otherwise you'll have the current state of certain S Classes striped in neon purple or hot pink interior lighting. (Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler would NOT APPROVE! ).
If I could do it, I would definitely retrofit Steering assist. Yeah I saw a review of the W222 from a Canadian perspective and the fluff options are a bit gaudy ("guah-dee"). OBTW yes I did trade - in my E350 for an S350 and its a lot of fun to drive since I still drive these cars like I drove my former C-Class (I still practice with the one they give you in the trunk for entertainment). Not quite as agile, but if you plan ahead, you can drive it very hard.
Ok so now back to the E-Class Loyalists vs K-A bash thread.
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#403
I am late to the thread but just having traded my 2009 550i on a new 2014 E350, I have never been happier.
The 550i was brilliant on perfectly smooth roads at 80+ MPH. The Mercedes is superior at everything else.
The 550i was brilliant on perfectly smooth roads at 80+ MPH. The Mercedes is superior at everything else.
#404
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I made the reserve trade 535i to 2014 E550 and I reached the same conclusion. For me the E class is a better car.
#405
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Gentlemen, as you know, comparing an MB 350 to a BMW 550 or the 535 to an MB 550 is not a fair comparison.
Heck, I moved from the 2010 350 to the 2014 550, and it's entirely a different ballgame that is oh so good!
Heck, I moved from the 2010 350 to the 2014 550, and it's entirely a different ballgame that is oh so good!
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It depends on the type of driving I do. City mileage is aweful. My 8 mile commute into DC on surface roads usually results in a fuel economy of a between 12-16 mpg. The car really excels on the highway. It is more fuel efficient than my wife's E350. On the long trips I have taken, I have gotten between 26-28 mpg.
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2011 E550 (RIP), 2014 CLS 550C4
It depends on the type of driving I do. City mileage is aweful. My 8 mile commute into DC on surface roads usually results in a fuel economy of a between 12-16 mpg. The car really excels on the highway. It is more fuel efficient than my wife's E350. On the long trips I have taken, I have gotten between 26-28 mpg.
Have not really put any highway miles on it yet, but my '05 E500 would pull down 26 or 27 pretty easy, and I saw a high of over 29 - once. If the 550 gets similar I'd be quite happy.
Dan
EDIT: Just realized you have the TT 550 - which gets a bit better mileage than the NA 550.
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The mileage on the 550 has really impressed me..i dont have it in my E, but the 5.5NA in my CLK gets 24 combined, which is great!
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It depends on the type of driving I do. City mileage is aweful. My 8 mile commute into DC on surface roads usually results in a fuel economy of a between 12-16 mpg. The car really excels on the highway. It is more fuel efficient than my wife's E350. On the long trips I have taken, I have gotten between 26-28 mpg.
My 2010 E550 on pure highway driving at 79 mph speed gives me 23 mpg.
On mixed hwy driving with average speed of 55 mph I get 26 mpg.
City traffic is at around 18 mpg.
These numbers are calculated by the mileage between fill ups but the city driving is a "guess" as I don't drive a tank of fuel in city traffic. I'm estimating it from the mpg display showing 20 mpg when it actually is about 1.5 mpg less.
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I take my 2011 E550 on a 3,000 mile trip each Spring, from central New Mexico, through Utah, Idaho, Oregon, to eastern Washington (Wenatchee). This is mixed desert and mountain driving, with elevations between 7,477 ft and 780 ft, starting at 5,323 ft. The roads are mixed Interstate, four lane, and desert two lane. Temps between the 70s and 100. Sometimes pretty windy. I have a lot of equipment in the trunk, and I weigh 236 pounds @ 6'3", so the payload is the equivalent to two people.
On each trip, I carefully track fuel usage at the gas pump, for only the open road driving, 1355 miles each way. Fuel is mixed brands, premium, octane varying by elevation. (I do not track mileage for the casual use at the destination.)
I am a conservative driver. Nevertheless, on the road my driving was as fast as 85+mph, typically ~10% above the speed limit. (I have on a few occasions exceeded 110 mph when passing a semi on highly visible straightaways in the desert --- seemed like 60mph )
My mileage on the combined 2,710 mile round trips, per year, is as follows:
June 2014 -- 28.44
May 2013 -- 28.80
June 2012 -- 27.17
(The computer would say it's 0.5 to 1.0 mpg more -- so much for technology.)
I must add: that V8 literally loafs, quietly, on long uphill grades, rarely a downshift --- what a pleasure! (Where do you put the bobbin?) And on long downgrades, judicious use of the paddles eliminates braking drama.
This is simply the finest road car I have ever driven in over 55 years of driving, in terms of handling and comfort.
On each trip, I carefully track fuel usage at the gas pump, for only the open road driving, 1355 miles each way. Fuel is mixed brands, premium, octane varying by elevation. (I do not track mileage for the casual use at the destination.)
I am a conservative driver. Nevertheless, on the road my driving was as fast as 85+mph, typically ~10% above the speed limit. (I have on a few occasions exceeded 110 mph when passing a semi on highly visible straightaways in the desert --- seemed like 60mph )
My mileage on the combined 2,710 mile round trips, per year, is as follows:
June 2014 -- 28.44
May 2013 -- 28.80
June 2012 -- 27.17
(The computer would say it's 0.5 to 1.0 mpg more -- so much for technology.)
I must add: that V8 literally loafs, quietly, on long uphill grades, rarely a downshift --- what a pleasure! (Where do you put the bobbin?) And on long downgrades, judicious use of the paddles eliminates braking drama.
This is simply the finest road car I have ever driven in over 55 years of driving, in terms of handling and comfort.
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2011 E550 (RIP), 2014 CLS 550C4
So far I'm pleased with the '11 550, but logging some serious highway miles will be the real test. The only nits to pick so far is the too light (to me) steering effort and that it seems to need a little more attention at the wheel on the highway. The 500 was an absolute train in that last regard.
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110 not conservative, but I like it
I take my 2011 E550 on a 3,000 mile trip each Spring, from central New Mexico, through Utah, Idaho, Oregon, to eastern Washington (Wenatchee). This is mixed desert and mountain driving, with elevations between 7,477 ft and 780 ft, starting at 5,323 ft. The roads are mixed Interstate, four lane, and desert two lane. Temps between the 70s and 100. Sometimes pretty windy. I have a lot of equipment in the trunk, and I weigh 236 pounds @ 6'3", so the payload is the equivalent to two people.
On each trip, I carefully track fuel usage at the gas pump, for only the open road driving, 1355 miles each way. Fuel is mixed brands, premium, octane varying by elevation. (I do not track mileage for the casual use at the destination.)
I am a conservative driver. Nevertheless, on the road my driving was as fast as 85+mph, typically ~10% above the speed limit. (I have on a few occasions exceeded 110 mph when passing a semi on highly visible straightaways in the desert --- seemed like 60mph )
My mileage on the combined 2,710 mile round trips, per year, is as follows:
June 2014 -- 28.44
May 2013 -- 28.80
June 2012 -- 27.17
(The computer would say it's 0.5 to 1.0 mpg more -- so much for technology.)
I must add: that V8 literally loafs, quietly, on long uphill grades, rarely a downshift --- what a pleasure! (Where do you put the bobbin?) And on long downgrades, judicious use of the paddles eliminates braking drama.
This is simply the finest road car I have ever driven in over 55 years of driving, in terms of handling and comfort.
On each trip, I carefully track fuel usage at the gas pump, for only the open road driving, 1355 miles each way. Fuel is mixed brands, premium, octane varying by elevation. (I do not track mileage for the casual use at the destination.)
I am a conservative driver. Nevertheless, on the road my driving was as fast as 85+mph, typically ~10% above the speed limit. (I have on a few occasions exceeded 110 mph when passing a semi on highly visible straightaways in the desert --- seemed like 60mph )
My mileage on the combined 2,710 mile round trips, per year, is as follows:
June 2014 -- 28.44
May 2013 -- 28.80
June 2012 -- 27.17
(The computer would say it's 0.5 to 1.0 mpg more -- so much for technology.)
I must add: that V8 literally loafs, quietly, on long uphill grades, rarely a downshift --- what a pleasure! (Where do you put the bobbin?) And on long downgrades, judicious use of the paddles eliminates braking drama.
This is simply the finest road car I have ever driven in over 55 years of driving, in terms of handling and comfort.
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It depends on the type of driving I do. City mileage is aweful. My 8 mile commute into DC on surface roads usually results in a fuel economy of a between 12-16 mpg. The car really excels on the highway. It is more fuel efficient than my wife's E350. On the long trips I have taken, I have gotten between 26-28 mpg.
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I just use the car's computer and I am a bit of a lead foot, too. My commute is probably has 50 stop lights!
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I'll plead that it's the car's fault. Big, long ugly semi, pull out and see a couple miles of clear, straight desert highway, add pressure to the throttle, and I'm pushed back into the seat. The engine stays quiet. The speedometer winds up, and in a few seconds it's 110mph and the semi is in the past. The car feels like absolutely nothing is going on, glued to the road, hummmmmmm . . . . . .
Not my fault the car jumps up to 110 without making any noise!
Not my fault the car jumps up to 110 without making any noise!
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I have, I mean I could see that happening. Especially with those PRIUS Drivers out there! They really get under my skin sometimes - all that attitude!, cutting people off, or just trying to hyper-mile and thus constantly getting in the way of those who are driving faster than they are
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2016 E63 AMG S SEDAN, 2010 E550 SEDAN
So my buddy has been lookin at gettin a BMW 3 series for a while, and this weekend the big dealer here was hosting a fund raiser thing (for every test drive they donate $1 to cancer research). So we figured we would go out and take a look around. While we were there i saw a new 2013 550i, decided to take the competition out for a test. And i gotta say....im impressed.
The cabin felt so much more high tech, heads up display that projects your speed as if its hovering out infront of the bumper, the screen was about twice the size of ours. The computer system itself was much more advanced, able to tune and view so much more through it then COMAND. Bumper mounted cameras to see around blind turns, heated front and rear seats. And the Bang and Olufsen sound system.
Not saying it was all good....The ride felt notably rougher then the E does, even on comfort mode. And no panoramic roof. And while im not positive on the engine specs, it felt slower then my E even though its roughly the same HP. And its sticker was about 11k more then my E, and mines loaded....
Overall i gotta say its a nice car, and i may give it a sereous look when i trade next time.
Has anyone else driven the 550i? thoughts?
The cabin felt so much more high tech, heads up display that projects your speed as if its hovering out infront of the bumper, the screen was about twice the size of ours. The computer system itself was much more advanced, able to tune and view so much more through it then COMAND. Bumper mounted cameras to see around blind turns, heated front and rear seats. And the Bang and Olufsen sound system.
Not saying it was all good....The ride felt notably rougher then the E does, even on comfort mode. And no panoramic roof. And while im not positive on the engine specs, it felt slower then my E even though its roughly the same HP. And its sticker was about 11k more then my E, and mines loaded....
Overall i gotta say its a nice car, and i may give it a sereous look when i trade next time.
Has anyone else driven the 550i? thoughts?
if my E550 could take a dump, it would be a BMW
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Nice kindergarten joke.
regarding all these features, I can't locate any car in US have at least distronic plus. I doubt that when new E class will arrive in US dealership, any of a car will have all these nice safety and luxury features. We can expect only panoramic sunroof and LED headlights. Why? Because people here are not interested in all these electronics.
regarding all these features, I can't locate any car in US have at least distronic plus. I doubt that when new E class will arrive in US dealership, any of a car will have all these nice safety and luxury features. We can expect only panoramic sunroof and LED headlights. Why? Because people here are not interested in all these electronics.
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If these features are presented as part of the standard configuration in the USA, they will be there and people will purchase the cars. I got the impression that MB was trying to boost their E-class sales by offering more features. Add in the fact that cheaper cars are incorporating these features, MB will have to offer more of these as part of the standard USA configuration to keep interest in the cars. If they can keep the costs near to what they were typical for the E-class over the past few years, that would be good.
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When I got my C63 with distronic I thought what a waste on a sports car. I was wrong I quickly saw it's utility. When I got my CPO 2012 E550 I made sure to get one with distronic b/c I really wanted it in a sedan. My 2016 E63 has distronic with steering assist. It literally drives itself for short periods of time. It's pretty cool.