E-Class (W212) 2010 - 2016: E 350, E 550

My first 1,200 miles with the E-class. Feature review and opinion.

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Old 06-30-2014, 12:45 AM
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If you have a chance can you upload photos of your heated steering wheel please?

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If you have a chance can you upload photos of your heated steering wheel please?

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Sorry it took me this long. It looks like the regular 3 spoke sport wheel.

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At 1200 miles on my e63s...

Some observations:

Transmission much more intelligent and smooth compared to the two clunky 7g chronics I had in the e550. Always seems to find the right hear and deceleration are super smooth

The 19s ride more firm obviously than the e550 amg 18s but I've gotten used to it and when I jump in the g35x I feel like I'm in a '93 Buick. Love the airmatic compared to the steel springs I had in both 550s

Acceleration is ridonkulous, needless to say

The seats feel the same, firm but comfortable for longer drives. Never drove this car or the 550 longer than 1.5 hours. The ventilation is just as useless in the seats as in the 550

Wiper judder on this car but didn't have it on the 550. Strange how it's seemingly luck of the draw who gets wiper judder.

Everything else is pretty much identical to the e550

This is a sweet ride, glad I finally got good luck with benz

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Sorry it took me this long. It looks like the regular 3 spoke sport wheel.

Hi Greg,
Thank you! I'm glad to see it's the 3 spoke wheel- I may end up retrofitting it onto the E63.
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Here are two photos of the interior and how awesome the black/white contrast looks (not my car, I'll take shots once I get it back). Also notice the stitching on the door panel with leather vs. the MB-Tex as well as the xtra black ash wood trim vs. aluminum that you get with the burl walnut.


That's different. My 2012 sedan with P1 and MB-Tex has that same stitching on the door panels. Did MB decide to cheapen the MB-Tex look in the current model?
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Amazing write up sir! Devils in the details. Proper!
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
At 1200 miles on my e63s...

Some observations:

Transmission much more intelligent and smooth compared to the two clunky 7g chronics I had in the e550. Always seems to find the right hear and deceleration are super smooth

The 19s ride more firm obviously than the e550 amg 18s but I've gotten used to it and when I jump in the g35x I feel like I'm in a '93 Buick. Love the airmatic compared to the steel springs I had in both 550s

Acceleration is ridonkulous, needless to say

The seats feel the same, firm but comfortable for longer drives. Never drove this car or the 550 longer than 1.5 hours. The ventilation is just as useless in the seats as in the 550

Wiper judder on this car but didn't have it on the 550. Strange how it's seemingly luck of the draw who gets wiper judder.

Everything else is pretty much identical to the e550

This is a sweet ride, glad I finally got good luck with benz
Nice review - glad to hear that you are loving the E63. I would love to have one. How does the mileage compare to an E550?
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Nice review - glad to hear that you are loving the E63. I would love to have one. How does the mileage compare to an E550?
In Eco in the 63, just taking it easy ... I get about 18 to 20 mpg for my drive which is mixed city and highway. The 550 would do 22 to 23 for the same cruise

When I aggressively drive the 63, about 7 or 8 mpg, about 14 in the 550 in same driving style

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Hi Greg - thank you for this incredibly detailed and helpful review (and congratulations on your gorgeous new wagon!).

I'm a longtime BMW driver, so your comparisons with the 328 are especially helpful. I've been driving an E46 wagon for the last decade, and missed the boat on ordering an E61 by a few months back in 2010 (I wanted a manual trans), and although I've been watching the used market I'm very apprehensive about the N54 engine's long term reliability. So I've been exploring other options, and the E350 has really grabbed me more than I expected. After weeks of research and a test drive, the car is a serious contender for me.

I'd love to see some more photos of your indigo blue! I'm leaning towards that color over dolomite or designo mystic brown, but I have yet to see those colors in person. Do you find that the indigo does a decent job of hiding dust and dirt?

Thanks again, and congratulations!I absolutely love your color combo.
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Hi Greg - thank you for this incredibly detailed and helpful review (and congratulations on your gorgeous new wagon!).

I'm a longtime BMW driver, so your comparisons with the 328 are especially helpful. I've been driving an E46 wagon for the last decade, and missed the boat on ordering an E61 by a few months back in 2010 (I wanted a manual trans), and although I've been watching the used market I'm very apprehensive about the N54 engine's long term reliability. So I've been exploring other options, and the E350 has really grabbed me more than I expected. After weeks of research and a test drive, the car is a serious contender for me.

I'd love to see some more photos of your indigo blue! I'm leaning towards that color over dolomite or designo mystic brown, but I have yet to see those colors in person. Do you find that the indigo does a decent job of hiding dust and dirt?

Thanks again, and congratulations!I absolutely love your color combo.
Beemie - count your blessings that you did not end up with the E61. The N54 is just way too unreliable. I had one for 75K miles and the car ate 3 HPFPs and was on its fourth set of fuel injector. Couple that with the notorious clogged moonroof problem on the E61, and I think that the E61 would not have been good long term car. The E-class is great. My wife has been driving one since 2008 and just has had regular maintenance. I switched to the "dark side" last November.
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Hi Greg - thank you for this incredibly detailed and helpful review (and congratulations on your gorgeous new wagon!).

I'm a longtime BMW driver, so your comparisons with the 328 are especially helpful. I've been driving an E46 wagon for the last decade, and missed the boat on ordering an E61 by a few months back in 2010 (I wanted a manual trans), and although I've been watching the used market I'm very apprehensive about the N54 engine's long term reliability. So I've been exploring other options, and the E350 has really grabbed me more than I expected. After weeks of research and a test drive, the car is a serious contender for me.

I'd love to see some more photos of your indigo blue! I'm leaning towards that color over dolomite or designo mystic brown, but I have yet to see those colors in person. Do you find that the indigo does a decent job of hiding dust and dirt?

Thanks again, and congratulations!I absolutely love your color combo.
Refer to my thread on the AMG board for designo Mystic Brown- it is simply the best color offered for this car in my opinion!

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...3-wagon-2.html
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Beemie - count your blessings that you did not end up with the E61. The N54 is just way too unreliable. I had one for 75K miles and the car ate 3 HPFPs and was on its fourth set of fuel injector. Couple that with the notorious clogged moonroof problem on the E61, and I think that the E61 would not have been good long term car. The E-class is great. My wife has been driving one since 2008 and just has had regular maintenance. I switched to the "dark side" last November.
Munich - thanks so much for that feedback. We take once or twice yearly roadtrips through the rural southwest - the thought of going into limp mode in the middle of our remote (and precious) vacation just always nagged at me. (And pre-LCI/non-N54s are aging and didn't crash test well w/o comfort seats...) I'm really glad to hear reports of reliability - and it seems like the E350's engine is tried and true at this point. I may be joining you all on the "dark side" one of these days...!

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Refer to my thread on the AMG board for designo Mystic Brown- it is simply the best color offered for this car in my opinion!
Your thread has definitely been bookmarked in my MB research folder! I cannot wait until you get your amazing wagon and I hope you post lots of photos! I'd like to see a Mystic Brown in person at some point, although it's hard enough finding Dolomite on the lot. I'm really loving this Indigo Blue in part because it seems like a darker, steelier version of my current car's color (BMW's Stahlblau metallic). All that said, these wagons really do look great in any color.
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Munich - thanks so much for that feedback. We take once or twice yearly roadtrips through the rural southwest - the thought of going into limp mode in the middle of our remote (and precious) vacation just always nagged at me. (And pre-LCI/non-N54s are aging and didn't crash test well w/o comfort seats...) I'm really glad to hear reports of reliability - and it seems like the E350's engine is tried and true at this point. I may be joining you all on the "dark side" one of these days...!



Your thread has definitely been bookmarked in my MB research folder! I cannot wait until you get your amazing wagon and I hope you post lots of photos! I'd like to see a Mystic Brown in person at some point, although it's hard enough finding Dolomite on the lot. I'm really loving this Indigo Blue in part because it seems like a darker, steelier version of my current car's color (BMW's Stahlblau metallic). All that said, these wagons really do look great in any color.
I'll definitely post many photos when it comes in. Just so you know I've seen Dolomite and Indigo in person. Personally speaking I find those two colors too soft for my taste- they're more kind of mixed in with a gray to give them a less defined color. So Dolomite, although a brown, is not as intense as I'd like it. And Indigo is more of a gray blue which isn't to my personal preference. But if you like being a little more low key those colors definitely don't stand out as much as the Mystic Brown.
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Hello GregTR,
thank you for very informative review, as well as overall contribution to this community. I learned a lot from your post and it was your color combo that I am now shopping for on a '16 E350 sedan.
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Originally Posted by GregTR

Folding Mirrors

The outside mirrors on US spec cars don't fold automatically, period. I had power folding mirrors on the BMW and the only time I used them was when I showed them to some friends how they worked. I never used the folding mirrors in real life situation so I'm not going to miss them on the E-class. You can manually fold them in just fine and in the rare case where I will park so close or tight that I'd fear for my mirrors I'll fold them manually but I think I'll fear door dings far more at that point than my mirrors.
This is an old thread, found it while searching for folder mirror options. I believe 2015 & 2016 E Class in US have power folding mirrors. Having lived with auto power folding mirrors on Lexus and Genesis, I have to say it is one feature I miss. I miss seeing my car greet me with power folding mirror open up as I walk up to it. I miss seeing confirmation of "locked car" with mirror folded instead of one annoying "honk".
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