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Not So Dynamic Seat - Need Diagnostic Help

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Old 10-30-2017, 09:49 PM
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Angry Not So Dynamic Seat - Need Diagnostic Help

Pretty much overnight the driver’s side dynamic seat in my ‘13 e550 stopped massaging, bolstering and lumbar-ing. I found the 30A dynamic seat fuse (#60) in the trunk fuseblock blown. Replaced it and seat operated for a minute or so and stopped again. Fuse didn’t blow right away but has since blown again. Passenger (non-dynamic) seat lumbar support still works. LEDs on control buttons still work. Called dealer and described problem and they said it sounds like the seat bladder. That’ll start at $1000. No thanks.

My first question is would the bladder problem really result in a blown fuse? I sort of think a leaking bladder would not lead to a blown fuse. Anyone else experiencing this scenario? I have googled a fair amount and find quite a lot of info on previous generation cars but not so much on mine. Looking for any ideas.

Anyone confirm if the bladder or motor is a weak spot in these cars?

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Rear SAM f60 relates to pump, could be leaking bladder causing pump to overrun blowing fuse. Definitive diagnose, pull fault codes using MB DAS (diagnostics). DIY - start with pump, see attachments.
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How PNEUMATIC bladder can blow ELECTRIC fuse ???
I think somebody needs to go back to school.
The only thing that can blow 30 amp fuse is the pump.
I salvaged some dynamic seats components from W211 that I found on JY. Including set of bladders and modules. No longer have the car, so let me know if you could use them.
I am thinking about converting the pump into tire inflator. It pumps 35 psi easy and blade pumps last way longer than piston pumps.
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Originally Posted by kajtek1
How PNEUMATIC bladder can blow ELECTRIC fuse ???
I think somebody needs to go back to school.
The only thing that can blow 30 amp fuse is the pump.
I salvaged some dynamic seats components from W211 that I found on JY. Including set of bladders and modules. No longer have the car, so let me know if you could use them.
I am thinking about converting the pump into tire inflator. It pumps 35 psi easy and blade pumps last way longer than piston pumps.
Though i don't know much regarding the dynamic seats i can tell you that fuses burn out because of load. This usually happens if there is a short, or in case of pumps if the pump gets stuck. i would imagine if the pump was running and could not push air out (stuck valve, pinched line etc.) it would cause a large amp draw and trip the fuse.
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Thanks for the info, drawings and offer of parts. Today I called M-B customer service to gripe about the cost and they requested I take the car to the dealer for diag. Depending on what they come up with for ‘help’ will determine my next steps.

I fully agree that only current blows a fuse-that was why I questioned dealer saying it’s the bladder. A leaky bladder should result in less load on the pump, not more.
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I purchased a 2013 E550 with the dynamic seats option a year ago with less than 30,000 mies. As part of the CPO process the seat cushion was replaced.

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