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LemonSqueezy 12-15-2017 03:51 AM

10.25 inch android headunit installed
 
Excited to share this with everyone. Saw this in another thread and came across this unit. Unit purchased from Chris The Swede, although other sites and vendors do sell this unit, shoutout to Chris because he offered tons of info and support. Glad I purchased from him. He also has YouTube videos on this unit.

I'm still trying to work out a few things like getting mirrorlink and google maps to work properly but so far I'm really satisfied with the result.

As far as I'm concerned, this particular unit works on ntg 4.5 4.7 and 5. Aux cable I routed behind the ac control unit, then under ash tray and center scrolling knob, and into the aux jack in center compartment. Audio is automatically supposed to switch over from own radio to anything being played in android unit but I haven't gotten that auto switch to work yet. Usb cable I have routed into glove compartment.

Here's a picture of unit installed.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...969879687c.jpg

Video in motion/youtube/usb drive. Movies in my usb drive utilize the entire screen, YouTube videos will not.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...260526c4b8.jpg

The best part is that this unit retains oem functionalities! This is primarily the only reason why i purchsed this unit. When using oem mode, the oem doesn't go full screen, the extra space on the right is filled with a stock dummy image. It'd be nice if we could get that right side functional.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8a36c3aa36.jpg

Old unit vs new unit size
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...de37ebcad9.jpg

Did I mention it's also a touchscreen?

:)

cocobeex 12-15-2017 04:01 AM

Interesting!!! PM me info!!

And nice 葉問 movie right there!!!

I will also probably install Torque App on it.

THX

LemonSqueezy 12-15-2017 01:39 PM

Lol thanks. What kind of info are you looking for?

kajtek1 12-15-2017 06:25 PM

Tell me more?
My W212 come with no GPS and when I ask dealer- I would have to replace whole unit$$$$$$
Would that operate GPS independently, or at least would my android GPS play on the big screen?
What about 360 cameras?
HOW MUCH?

Mud 12-15-2017 08:38 PM

Nice work 👍
I just looked at this yesterday on C the S youtube video. Really does a good job keeping it clear and concise.

yt35 12-16-2017 02:31 PM

Good job!

Did you have to tether from your phone to get navi to work?

Do you have a link of where you purchased it from?

norwayw212 12-16-2017 04:25 PM

http://www.mbscashopen.com/

LemonSqueezy 12-16-2017 05:59 PM

From what I understand, since it's an android unit, you can use pretty much any navigation app. It comes pre-installed with google maps and iGO navigation. The unit comes with an antenna cable that you can use for any offline maps. You can use hotspot on your phone to use Google maps with live traffic. Theoretically you should be able to download offline Google maps and use it without tethering and antenna only.

I haven't gotten my Google maps to work in the few minutes that I spent time on it, seems a lot of others have though. I should have time in the next coming days to try it out.

yes you can add an aftermarket backup camera or 360 camera. There does appear to be an option to select oem vs aftermarket camera in the options for when you hit reverse

site that i used was www.ckmcardesign.se but it looks like the same site posted above.

kajtek1 12-17-2017 12:49 AM

So that's about $800? Any discount seller?
How hard is installation? I am mechanically-inclined and can follow the manual for cable installation, but software hacking is not my thing.

raja777m 12-20-2017 12:25 AM

I'm interested in one, any group buy discounts?
I'm from 28262, Charlotte, NC.
I have 360 cam and auto parking, which I'm interested to get a demo beforehand.

BTW, since it is like an android tablet, I can connect to my home wifi (when parked near my home WiFi range) and get apps, offline maps downloaded installed/updated easily I believe..!

Can it be used with 6-disc changer; it has video-in-motion option, so, I can rent some dvd's from RedBox when I start my trip and return them in a different state altogether. Good for families with kids..!

LemonSqueezy 12-20-2017 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7337092)
So that's about $800? Any discount seller?
How hard is installation? I am mechanically-inclined and can follow the manual for cable installation, but software hacking is not my thing.

Mine was without VAT taxes so a little cheaper. Install was hard for my first time, after a couple rounds it's actually quite straight forward. Should be able to remove and reinstall everything within 30 minutes. Running the wires were the tricky part, I have large hands and all thumbs, took me a while.

Its not really software hacking, you're just plugging in your old cables into an adapter, into a screen and thats about it.

Fair warning though, since you asked about nav, I'm not having very good luck getting a my offline nav to work very well. My location seems to take a while to pick up, which makes location while moving choppy. I also havent gotten nav audio directions to work yet. The manufacturer has communicated with me but i wont have time to fiddle with it for another 2 weeks or so


Originally Posted by raja777m (Post 7339477)
I'm interested in one, any group buy discounts?
I'm from 28262, Charlotte, NC.
I have 360 cam and auto parking, which I'm interested to get a demo beforehand.

BTW, since it is like an android tablet, I can connect to my home wifi (when parked near my home WiFi range) and get apps, offline maps downloaded installed/updated easily I believe..!

Can it be used with 6-disc changer; it has video-in-motion option, so, I can rent some dvd's from RedBox when I start my trip and return them in a different state altogether. Good for families with kids..!

360 camera does display on the screen, it will automatically display when you hit reverse, but front view 360 cam wont display unless you go into oem view first. I have not tried the semi auto park yet, but im not sure what that has to do with the center screen.

Dont have an answer with the 6 disc cd, but it does have a usb dongle for you to stick a usb drive in there if you want to watch movies through that.

kajtek1 12-21-2017 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7340117)
Fair warning though, since you asked about nav, I'm not having very good luck getting a my offline nav to work very well. My location seems to take a while to pick up, which makes location while moving choppy. I also havent gotten nav audio directions to work yet. The manufacturer has communicated with me but i wont have time to fiddle with it for another 2 weeks or so.

Thanks for the warning and keep us updated, please.
Main reason I would go for the unit is GPS, but if that doesn't work too well, why spend that kind of money?
For time being I put my android over car screen and it gives good directions with live traffic. The bad side is 5" screen, dropping down on heavy acceleration and also with my prepaid minutes, the data goes very fast.
Still would I find android with 8" screen that doesn't cost a fortune, that would be easier.

Silverp30wagon 12-21-2017 06:05 PM

This might be a dumb question because of the touchscreen but do the steering wheel controls and command knob still work?

Mikeki7 12-21-2017 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Silverp30wagon (Post 7340739)
This might be a dumb question because of the touchscreen but do the steering wheel controls and command knob still work?

Yes, I rarely use the touchscreen myself. Some apps don't work well with the knob but its good for the most part.

tresean1 12-22-2017 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7340117)
Mine was without VAT taxes so a little cheaper. Install was hard for my first time, after a couple rounds it's actually quite straight forward. Should be able to remove and reinstall everything within 30 minutes. Running the wires were the tricky part, I have large hands and all thumbs, took me a while.

Its not really software hacking, you're just plugging in your old cables into an adapter, into a screen and thats about it.

Nice, wanna do mine? :naughty:

Phinestro 12-26-2017 03:38 PM

I just did my install into a 2014 GLK 350. I just can't seem to figure out how to adjust the date and time. Also changing the unit from Kilometers to Miles and the climate from Celsius to Fahrenheit has been a task. I got my unit from CKMcardesign. I'm still playing around with the unit trying to solve these issues.

xMaximus 12-27-2017 11:45 PM

I just did an install on my 2010 E350. The stock COMAND screen is not coming up. I don't know why. I just emailed Chris about this, hopefully he answers back. Another thing I noticed is the fiber optics needed to be detached from the unit and be plugged into the radio unit and not through provided the A/B connector. LemonSqueezy did you notice this during your install?

LemonSqueezy 12-28-2017 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Phinestro (Post 7343300)
I just did my install into a 2014 GLK 350. I just can't seem to figure out how to adjust the date and time. Also changing the unit from Kilometers to Miles and the climate from Celsius to Fahrenheit has been a task. I got my unit from CKMcardesign. I'm still playing around with the unit trying to solve these issues.

I don't remember much about the date and time as it was already accurate out the box. I believe there is currently no option to change units from rest of world to US units. Hopefully devs can work on that and make an update. The metric units don't really bother me

LemonSqueezy 12-28-2017 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by xMaximus (Post 7344399)
I just did an install on my 2010 E350. The stock COMAND screen is not coming up. I don't know why. I just emailed Chris about this, hopefully he answers back. Another thing I noticed is the fiber optics needed to be detached from the unit and be plugged into the radio unit and not through provided the A/B connector. LemonSqueezy did you notice this during your install?

the fiber optics cable in Chris's install video is a little off. The cable is supposed to come off the radio unit and into the adapter cables provided, not back into the same connector you unplug from. As for comand not coming up, I'd need more details.

tresean1 12-28-2017 06:04 AM

Thank you guy for doing the R&D and going thru the growing pains on this.
I think I will wait until all the kinks are ironed out and the unit/install is perfected.
I'd get anxiety attacks if I tried this and something went wrong.

Phinestro 12-28-2017 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by xMaximus (Post 7344399)
I just did an install on my 2010 E350. The stock COMAND screen is not coming up. I don't know why. I just emailed Chris about this, hopefully he answers back. Another thing I noticed is the fiber optics needed to be detached from the unit and be plugged into the radio unit and not through provided the A/B connector. LemonSqueezy did you notice this during your install?

I may know the solution for your Comand screen not showing. It has to do with the parameter setting. On the android unit, there's a hidden menu. Go to the Settings Menu. Press the screen 3 times where I placed this red box visual reference.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f9156266b2.jpg

Press the screen 3 times where this red box is located, right above the navigation field.

It will take a few try's but eventually you will get the hidden menu to appear. The menu will look like this. Toggle "Screen param" between values 1 - 10 to adjust the parameter for your original comand screen to be shown on the android unit. Below are further instructions.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f85df75503.jpg

The Screen Parameter has 10 options. Cycle through those screen parameters to find the right one for your car. Some may be a blank screen, a static screen or a miss-sized screen. Go through each of them until you found the right screen parameter. Just repeat the process back to the hidden menu until you find the right screen parameter.

Hope this helps.

c240DUDE 12-28-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7344407)
the fiber optics cable in Chris's install video is a little off. The cable is supposed to come off the radio unit and into the adapter cables provided, not back into the same connector you unplug from. As for comand not coming up, I'd need more details.

Do you happen to have a step-by-step procedure? I'm having trouble with a few things. I think I did everything correct, however, my stock COMAND is not displaying, my knob doesn't work with the new interface, my sound is not working even when I connected it through the aux connector. Chris sent me a PowerPoint of what I needed to do and yet again, it still doesn't work for me. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

c240DUDE 12-28-2017 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Phinestro (Post 7344654)
I may know the solution for your Comand screen not showing. It has to do with the parameter setting. On the android unit, there's a hidden menu. Go to the Settings Menu. Press the screen 3 times where I placed this red box visual reference.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f9156266b2.jpg

Press the screen 3 times where this red box is located, right above the navigation field.

It will take a few try's but eventually you will get the hidden menu to appear. The menu will look like this. Toggle "Screen param" between values 1 - 10 to adjust the parameter for your original comand screen to be shown on the android unit. Below are further instructions.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f85df75503.jpg

The Screen Parameter has 10 options. Cycle through those screen parameters to find the right one for your car. Some may be a blank screen, a static screen or a miss-sized screen. Go through each of them until you found the right screen parameter. Just repeat the process back to the hidden menu until you find the right screen parameter.

Hope this helps.

I'll try that. Thanks.

Phinestro 12-28-2017 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by c240DUDE (Post 7344666)
Do you happen to have a step-by-step procedure? I'm having trouble with a few things. I think I did everything correct, however, my stock COMAND is not displaying, my knob doesn't work with the new interface, my sound is not working even when I connected it through the aux connector. Chris sent me a PowerPoint of what I needed to do and yet again, it still doesn't work for me. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

If neither the screen, comand knob or aux working, then check if the main T harness you installed is really flushed and locked inside the back of the radio. This happened to me and my harness wasn't properly installed in the radio. Once I got a good fit and lock, everything was functional.

LemonSqueezy 12-28-2017 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by c240DUDE (Post 7344668)
I'll try that. Thanks.

screen param for w212 is #2 with this screen.

xMaximus 12-28-2017 12:30 PM

I changed the Screen Parameters. Still not working. It's total blank like nothing's there.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0f99e7b64a.jpg

LemonSqueezy 12-28-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by xMaximus (Post 7344691)
I changed the Screen Parameters. Still not working. It's total blank like nothing's there.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0f99e7b64a.jpg

This may be stupid but are the 2 connectors properly connected behind the new screen..?

xMaximus 12-28-2017 01:02 PM

Yup. The screen works. I can go through the different apps and such. Now just like C240dude, my knob does not work also. Very odd. I really think it's the connector that goes to the radio unit. It was a snug fit since there's lots of wires going into it than the stock ones. What's troubling me is that that connector doesnt seem to fit flush with the radio unit in the back like the stock ones. I had a difficult time pulling the tab down to attach it. Anyone have this issue and how to deal with it carefully without damaging unit?

LemonSqueezy 12-28-2017 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by xMaximus (Post 7344718)
Yup. The screen works. I can go through the different apps and such. Now just like C240dude, my knob does not work also. Very odd. I really think it's the connector that goes to the radio unit. It was a snug fit since there's lots of wires going into it than the stock ones. What's troubling me is that that connector doesnt seem to fit flush with the radio unit in the back like the stock ones. I had a difficult time pulling the tab down to attach it. Anyone have this issue and how to deal with it carefully without damaging unit?

Would suggest anyone installing this to test functionality first while all trims and components are removed and cables exposed. Having unit and all trims installed makes it difficult to check connections.

the two connectors behind the new screen, I think the smaller white one is for your comand output. Along that smaller white plug there is a blue plug, that blue plug connects to your old comand cable that used to connect to your old screen. Make sure that connection is nice and snug.

I notice a lot of time the scrolling knob doesn't work until the comand portion is displaying. Also if you're connecting/disconnecting cables a lot with your car on, you may have to fully turn car off then back on again for scrolling knob to sync.

xMaximus 12-28-2017 11:12 PM

I made sure all the cables leading to and from the original COMAND unit are snug. Here's a picture of the back of my OEM screen. My has two square connectors, the blue connector you're talking about is not on my stock unit. Instead, I used a converter that came with the package (see photo). This has the blue connector you're talking about.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...acff7ba586.jpg

Back of OEM screen. 2010 w212
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...22d1cba97b.jpg

Cables that goes to the back of the OEM screen.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ca4752f167.jpg

I connected the cable to a converter that has a blue plug.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...34948731c2.jpg

Is this blue plug you're talking about? I notice some cars came straight with this blue and not like mine.

LemonSqueezy 12-29-2017 01:25 AM

Might be a little stumped on this one ��. Mine did not come with a converter, oem cables already had a blue connector, but yes that was the blue connector i was talking about. Maybe you simply forgot to press power on the radio unit? Or maybe you forgot to plug the little teeny tiny white connector to the right side of your radio unit? I doubt the big adapter cables would be the issue because they simply just snap and lock in. The fiber optics cable should be straight forward too, off the radio unit, then back into the radio unit with new adapter cable inserted

LemonSqueezy 12-29-2017 01:36 AM

Take your radio unit out and check something for me real quick. Within all that junk of cable mess there are some cables labeled 'AB'. Connected to AB is either another cable labeled "A" or a cable labeled "B". If AB is with A try to disconnect and try AB with B, or vice versa.

jjsaustin 12-29-2017 10:22 AM

I'm curious how clean the fit is. Are there any pics from the side view or the back (looking thru the windshield)

LemonSqueezy 12-29-2017 12:53 PM

Sorry about the glare
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3bc4708cca.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b0fb4193b7.jpg

xMaximus 12-30-2017 04:20 AM

COMAND finally works!
 
Finally got my COMAND to show up. Here's what the manufacturer said to do. Since my unit is an old unit (2010), I had to splice two wires and connect them (see photo below).https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6aff37cc34.jpg

Red and yellow wires. (Video and 12V)

Finally...
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ecc1e5470a.jpg

Thanks for everyone's input and help. Next up, trying to get my knob to scroll through the apps and the aux audio to work with the music apps.

kajtek1 12-30-2017 11:00 AM

So how well GPS works?

jjsaustin 12-31-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7345474)

Thank you for the pics

Mikeki7 12-31-2017 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7346085)
So how well GPS works?

It does not work that well at the moment. The location update is not often so your location is kind of jumpy, more jumpy then a ntg4.5 oem navi. I don't think it is a hardware issue though and its just that the android system is not set up optimally. If I can modify the system files I can probably make it work smoothly but not enough time to look into it right now, though I will say the device comes pre-rooted which is nice, should make getting a backup of the system not difficult. I did ask the manufacturer for a stock flashable image but I did not get one, Im sure if I had a legitimate problem with the device then they may provide it.

dsenela 01-14-2018 10:30 PM

Hi guys!

After researching for quite a bit, I think I am ready to get one of these for my 2008 C300 W204. Quick questions to those that have installed this unit, are there any means by which the screen brightness can be dimmed for night driving? Also is it confirmed there is no way of changing Kilometers to miles / Celsius to Fahrenheit? I am curious how the odometer shows on screen, does it actually compute the kilometers from miles or just shows the actual miles and appends the Kilometer label? same with temperature?

Thanks all!

Av8rdh3 01-24-2018 09:23 AM

Maximus, did your kit have and RCA plugs? I can't get audio to work, everything else is.... Any help is appreciated. (2012 E63)

LemonSqueezy 01-24-2018 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7357772)
Hi guys!

After researching for quite a bit, I think I am ready to get one of these for my 2008 C300 W204. Quick questions to those that have installed this unit, are there any means by which the screen brightness can be dimmed for night driving? Also is it confirmed there is no way of changing Kilometers to miles / Celsius to Fahrenheit? I am curious how the odometer shows on screen, does it actually compute the kilometers from miles or just shows the actual miles and appends the Kilometer label? same with temperature?

Thanks all!

I haven't noticed any options to adjust brightness yet, I think it's actually not bright enough especially in direct sunlight. Brightness does not bother me at night. No options to switch km to miles yet. Km displayed is actual miles converted to km. Same for temperature.


Originally Posted by Av8rdh3 (Post 7365152)
Maximus, did your kit have and RCA plugs? I can't get audio to work, everything else is.... Any help is appreciated. (2012 E63)

The rca plugs are part of the adapter which comes with the kit

LemonSqueezy 01-24-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Av8rdh3 (Post 7365152)
Maximus, did your kit have and RCA plugs? I can't get audio to work, everything else is.... Any help is appreciated. (2012 E63)

Also are the audio jacks plugged into the audio port? Mine does not auto switch audio like in Chris' video, I have to go into oem screen, manually select audio, and select 'aux' then start playing something on the android side

kajtek1 01-24-2018 01:00 PM

Any update on GPS performance? Also will it work with aftermarket rear camera?

dacia 01-25-2018 01:51 AM

LemonSqueezy, you said on-line (youtube) content will not show on the entire screen?
How about mirroring/casting your phone to the screen? Have you tried that and if so how is the result?
When you play a video on the phone and you cast it to screen does it fill the entire screen?
How about when you play a DVD from the COMAND unit? It only shows on the original OEM size screen on the left side, is that correct?

I want to get one as well but my car is RHD, and they don't have the bracket for right hand drive cars.
If you mirror / cast your phone and run google maps off the phone then there should be no lag when navigating.
Have you connected the GPS antenna that comes with the unit so you can use google maps from the Android unit?

Also, how difficult was it to route the wires into the center armrest?
Did Chris give you any instructions?
I did remove the COMAND unit once already, that's not a big issue but pulling the USB cable into the armrest seems like a lot of work.
Space behind the COMAND unit is quite tight and I had hard time putting everything back together (I installed an extra cable harness to get Video in Motion and to turn off the ECO function).
Did you have any problem with tucking the cables back in?
Your car had the NTG 4.7 system, correct? Was the installation truly plug and play?
To route the USB cable into the glove box did you remove it (glove box)?
You car is 2014, so is mine, so you probably have the Media interface Plus (option 518) already installed in the armrest with a USB connector and an proprietary Media Interface connector.
Do you think it would be possible to connect those to the Android unit?

Sorry for all the questions, Chris' and Carlife's (Chinese vendor / manufacturer) video on youtube does not have all the answers/details.

LemonSqueezy 01-25-2018 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7365359)
Any update on GPS performance? Also will it work with aftermarket rear camera?

I have not really had much time to test out the GPS yet. There is an option in the menu's to auto select aftermarket rear view camera when you hit reverse.


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7365974)
LemonSqueezy, you said on-line (youtube) content will not show on the entire screen?
How about mirroring/casting your phone to the screen? Have you tried that and if so how is the result?
When you play a video on the phone and you cast it to screen does it fill the entire screen?
How about when you play a DVD from the COMAND unit? It only shows on the original OEM size screen on the left side, is that correct?

I want to get one as well but my car is RHD, and they don't have the bracket for right hand drive cars.
If you mirror / cast your phone and run google maps off the phone then there should be no lag when navigating.
Have you connected the GPS antenna that comes with the unit so you can use google maps from the Android unit?

Also, how difficult was it to route the wires into the center armrest?
Did Chris give you any instructions?
I did remove the COMAND unit once already, that's not a big issue but pulling the USB cable into the armrest seems like a lot of work.
Space behind the COMAND unit is quite tight and I had hard time putting everything back together (I installed an extra cable harness to get Video in Motion and to turn off the ECO function).
Did you have any problem with tucking the cables back in?
Your car had the NTG 4.7 system, correct? Was the installation truly plug and play?
To route the USB cable into the glove box did you remove it (glove box)?
You car is 2014, so is mine, so you probably have the Media interface Plus (option 518) already installed in the armrest with a USB connector and an proprietary Media Interface connector.
Do you think it would be possible to connect those to the Android unit?

Sorry for all the questions, Chris' and Carlife's (Chinese vendor / manufacturer) video on youtube does not have all the answers/details.

I have not actually tried mirror cast, the vendor has told me what to do to connect it but i have not tested if it actually works. If you use comand dvd, then yes it will only display on the left side of the screen because you will be in OEM mode. I think the youtube videos does not use the full screen because of the aspect ratio that most people create videos on. Movies from my usb drive which use like that 4:3(?) ratio will fill up the entire screen.

Yes i am on ntg 4.7. The wiring to the center armrest was a little tricky, All i did was youtube videos on how to remove everything. There is a little light lamp thing that illuminates the center armrest inside, I unplugged that and snuck the audio cord right in between that, then plugged the light back in. Took me an hour to figure out to how disassemble the ashtray and cup holders and center control knob, but once i figured that out, maybe 15 minutes tops to get it on and off.

not quite sure about the "Do you think it would be possible to connect those to the Android unit?" would need a bit more clarification.

dacia 01-25-2018 09:00 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6bc45ed069.jpg

Dual-Male Fakra Y-splitter to Female Fakra
Thanks a lot for the answers.
What I meant by the last question is that since the cables for the AUX and USB connections are already factory installed connecting the sockets in the armrest to the COMAND unit, if we could split wires at the end where they connect to the COMAND unit then we wouldn't need to pull them again from the Android screen all the way to the armrest.
If there was a commercially available Y splitter/connector that could split the connectors into two, then one side could be connected to the COMAND as per OEM setup and the other could be connected the Android screen. This way we would save the pain of having to run one wire to the armrest for the AUX input and one to the glove box for the USB input. Those connectors already present in the armrest in my, and your, car. I believe the pre-facelift 212s had those connectors in the glove box.
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I just did a quick google search. there are Fakra connector splitters available. So then the only question is what is the connector end looks like for the AUX and USB connectors at the Android screen end.
I hope it makes some sense.

Did you remove the glove box to route the USB cable in there or was there any gap somewhere?

dsenela 02-04-2018 10:29 PM

I finally pulled the trigger on one of these from eBay. Works very well despite some of the obvious embarrassing grammatical mistakes. I wonder if everyone else's have the same quirks as mine.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1909db7614.jpg

What are these labels 'HI' supposed to mean, I assume they should be connected with climate control, but i have tried all settings but these haven't changed at all, maybe I am missing something?


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...316b7c2026.jpg

Says 'lamplet open' when headlights are switched on (Sorry for the camera glare)

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...890689b185.jpg

Another embarrassing screen.

I know these are minor inconveniences, I just wanted to know if everyone else have the same issues, as I assume there are different variants of these units out there. Which brings me to the question, does anybody have the password for advanced settings? I am sure access to advanced settings would enable us make some interesting changes and hopefully root the device. Also, does everyone have the SIM Card slot? any luck getting it to work? I tried several SIM Cards from different carriers with no luck.

kajtek1 02-04-2018 11:02 PM

Frankly after seeing so many "lost translations" published by MBUSA, some Chinese glitches don't bother me at all.
I speak 3 languages and spend part of my life in metric, part in SAE system so switching from one logic to other comes automatically.
Coming to engineering mode, I did not try it but have info from the net how to start:
-turn on the radio
- press "phone hang-up" + "1" + "#" for at least 5 seconds

dealer menu
- press "phone hang-up" + "7" + "9" for at least 5 seconds
Use at your own risk.

Mikeki7 02-04-2018 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7373856)
Frankly after seeing so many "lost translations" published by MBUSA, some Chinese glitches don't bother me at all.
I speak 3 languages and spend part of my life in metric, part in SAE system so switching from one logic to other comes automatically.
Coming to engineering mode, I did not try it but have info from the net how to start:
-turn on the radio
- press "phone hang-up" + "1" + "#" for at least 5 seconds

dealer menu
- press "phone hang-up" + "7" + "9" for at least 5 seconds
Use at your own risk.

Pretty sure dsenela is talking about the setting in the android unit that asks for a password not the factory engineering mode. Also @dsenela the device is already rooted, so if you know your way around android and/or willing to learn then you can make some nice changes to the unit yourself, especially fixing text mistakes. Dont forget to backup the system, which is super easy since it is already rooted. The HI text is there when the AC is at the highest settings and LO at the lowest, it should change when you use AC but it seems like there is an issue with canbus communication. Climate info shows up fine in my CLS.

dsenela 02-05-2018 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7373856)
Frankly after seeing so many "lost translations" published by MBUSA, some Chinese glitches don't bother me at all.
I speak 3 languages and spend part of my life in metric, part in SAE system so switching from one logic to other comes automatically.
Coming to engineering mode, I did not try it but have info from the net how to start:
-turn on the radio
- press "phone hang-up" + "1" + "#" for at least 5 seconds

dealer menu
- press "phone hang-up" + "7" + "9" for at least 5 seconds
Use at your own risk.

The lost translations are not really a deal breaker for me, I am still in awe at how much work and effort was invested in making the unit's aesthetics and functions way better than my current OEM, with menus in different languages to boot. I was just hoping there was a quick way we could tweak the unit to finesse some of these minor issues. I too have spent my entire life using the metric system (and English is not my native language either,) it would be nice to have an option to switch between them though.

The password I was referring to is the one on the android unit, not the OEM HU. I knew about Engineering mode, but learned about the dealer menu today, I will try it out to see what's in there, thanks!

@Mikeki7, I just assumed the unit was not rooted, this is sweet!, I will definitely be digging in there to find what is possible. About the 'HI' not changing I believe it could be vehicle specific, my w204 does not have LO/HI settings on the climate controls. Also today in sub-zero morning temps the unit started behaving strangely, randomly getting stuck in boot loops and freezing on some screens, but it is probably just a loose connection, I will check all my connections again when it gets warmer.

LemonSqueezy 02-06-2018 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7374524)
The lost translations are not really a deal breaker for me, I am still in awe at how much work and effort was invested in making the unit's aesthetics and functions way better than my current OEM, with menus in different languages to boot. I was just hoping there was a quick way we could tweak the unit to finesse some of these minor issues. I too have spent my entire life using the metric system (and English is not my native language either,) it would be nice to have an option to switch between them though.

The password I was referring to is the one on the android unit, not the OEM HU. I knew about Engineering mode, but learned about the dealer menu today, I will try it out to see what's in there, thanks!

@Mikeki7, I just assumed the unit was not rooted, this is sweet!, I will definitely be digging in there to find what is possible. About the 'HI' not changing I believe it could be vehicle specific, my w204 does not have LO/HI settings on the climate controls. Also today in sub-zero morning temps the unit started behaving strangely, randomly getting stuck in boot loops and freezing on some screens, but it is probably just a loose connection, I will check all my connections again when it gets warmer.

I believe the password for mine was just 111111 (six one's)

lay3r3 02-06-2018 10:53 PM

Can you download Waze, then use it by tethering to your phone's hotspot?
Also in one of your initial pics, there was a 3D map... was that part of google map? Google earth 3D mapping?

lay3r3 02-06-2018 10:59 PM

How did you get the Yip Man movie to play? or for any movies to play for that matter...
Umm.. also looks like the screen protector is still on your unit? :-) Nice job, very Chinesey.. :-)

LemonSqueezy 02-07-2018 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by lay3r3 (Post 7375594)
Can you download Waze, then use it by tethering to your phone's hotspot?
Also in one of your initial pics, there was a 3D map... was that part of google map? Google earth 3D mapping?

The map in the initial picture was just stock own nav. There is a Google play store app so you can download anything in the play store if you wanted, including waze. My experience so far is the antenna does not pick up my location very well. So the map is choppy.


Originally Posted by lay3r3 (Post 7375603)
How did you get the Yip Man movie to play? or for any movies to play for that matter...
Umm.. also looks like the screen protector is still on your unit? :-) Nice job, very Chinesey.. :-)

in that picture it was just a YouTube video. You can also attach a flash drive in the usb dongle and watch through the media screen on the unit.

screen protector.. yeah.. kinda forgot it was there haha

bbbbbbb 02-11-2018 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7335819)
Excited to share this with everyone. Saw this in another thread and came across this unit. Unit purchased from Chris The Swede, although other sites and vendors do sell this unit, shoutout to Chris because he offered tons of info and support. Glad I purchased from him. He also has YouTube videos on this unit.

I'm still trying to work out a few things like getting mirrorlink and google maps to work properly but so far I'm really satisfied with the result.

As far as I'm concerned, this particular unit works on ntg 4.5 4.7 and 5. Aux cable I routed behind the ac control unit, then under ash tray and center scrolling knob, and into the aux jack in center compartment. Audio is automatically supposed to switch over from own radio to anything being played in android unit but I haven't gotten that auto switch to work yet. Usb cable I have routed into glove compartment.

Here's a picture of unit installed.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...969879687c.jpg

Video in motion/youtube/usb drive. Movies in my usb drive utilize the entire screen, YouTube videos will not.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...260526c4b8.jpg

The best part is that this unit retains oem functionalities! This is primarily the only reason why i purchsed this unit. When using oem mode, the oem doesn't go full screen, the extra space on the right is filled with a stock dummy image. It'd be nice if we could get that right side functional.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8a36c3aa36.jpg

Old unit vs new unit size
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...de37ebcad9.jpg

Did I mention it's also a touchscreen?

:)


Of course, you can buy from Chris Lund (I've seen his youtube videos too), but you can buy directly from the manufacturer and save yourself like $300. All Chris has done is mark up the price.
You can buy this unit from Aliexpress for around $575 to $675 depending on your model. OR you can buy directly from www.carlife-mall.net for around $460 to $580.
Chris Lund's website sells the unit for around $848. All he did was mark the unit up. FYI

bbbbbbb 02-11-2018 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by cocobeex (Post 7335823)
Interesting!!! PM me info!!

And nice 葉問 movie right there!!!

I will also probably install Torque App on it.

THX

WOW!!! VERY SLICK AND AWESOME LOOKING. THE "BROWNISH/GOLDISH" TRIM ON THE RIMS! IT WORKS!!! VERY NICE!!! I'M DROOLING!

bbbbbbb 02-11-2018 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7337092)
So that's about $800? Any discount seller?
How hard is installation? I am mechanically-inclined and can follow the manual for cable installation, but software hacking is not my thing.

You can buy the unit at www.carlife-mall.net for around $500 for the unit, $60 for shipping, $20 for paypal charge = $580. Save yourself almost $300!
But you have to wait until after Feb. 25th. It's a holiday over there (China) and they are shutdown until then. They'll accept payments right now, but won't ship the unit until after Feb. 25th.

bbbbbbb 02-11-2018 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7373871)
Pretty sure dsenela is talking about the setting in the android unit that asks for a password not the factory engineering mode. Also @dsenela the device is already rooted, so if you know your way around android and/or willing to learn then you can make some nice changes to the unit yourself, especially fixing text mistakes. Dont forget to backup the system, which is super easy since it is already rooted. The HI text is there when the AC is at the highest settings and LO at the lowest, it should change when you use AC but it seems like there is an issue with canbus communication. Climate info shows up fine in my CLS.

Hi Mike,
That's great if the display unit comes rooted already. Do you know what software to use to access the ROM on the display unit? Does the display unit have a USB connection port to connect it up to a computer to access the ROM?
I would like to be able to mod the ROM to change the kmh to mileage. Or do you know how to make the change from kmh to mileage on the unit itself, without changing the code?

LemonSqueezy 02-11-2018 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by bbbbbbb (Post 7378675)
Of course, you can buy from Chris Lund (I've seen his youtube videos too), but you can buy directly from the manufacturer and save yourself like $300. All Chris has done is mark up the price.
You can buy this unit from Aliexpress for around $575 to $675 depending on your model. OR you can buy directly from www.carlife-mall.net for around $460 to $580.
Chris Lund's website sells the unit for around $848. All he did was mark the unit up. FYI

the cheapest I could find the product online when i purchased mine was $580. I paid in the realm of ~$650 or so through Chris. For that small markup, I was able to get prompt feedback, product arrived in less than a week, and I would not have been able to install without his videos. The manufacturer does not have any detailed info on install. Small price to pay to support a trusted member on the forum.

the $850 is only if you click on some VAT taxes for specific locations, probably does not apply to most people.

kajtek1 02-11-2018 02:18 PM

Be careful with buying from other countries.
I do it often and when small things form Taiwan come pretty fast and cheap, couple of bigger items proceed with big hassle.
I bought 48" range-oven from China. This is 500 lb item. The price was excelent comparing to those Austrians units you can get in US, but when the ship arrived to US, turn out that beside custom checks, the 9-11 triggered higher security declarations and not only I had to pay several other fees, but had to find a brooker to file them for me, what added nice amount. Still good deal at the end, but not as good as it look initially.
With engine I bought in UK I had no extra cost, but still EPA declarations to fill, when engine was at warehouse for days.

Vladds 02-20-2018 10:48 PM

Say you download and install Waze, then turn off your phone, but have the GPS antenna work. Does waze still work?
In other words, does the GPS antenna make this navigation stand alone, or it's still actually running on your phone, on your data minutes.
I mean i realize that Waze has those interactive features that make it what it is, so maybe then Google maps works without having your phone on?

Is there any voice control, either the original one from the Command, or anything in this unit?

Chris The Swede 02-23-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by bbbbbbb (Post 7378675)
Of course, you can buy from Chris Lund (I've seen his youtube videos too), but you can buy directly from the manufacturer and save yourself like $300. All Chris has done is mark up the price.
You can buy this unit from Aliexpress for around $575 to $675 depending on your model. OR you can buy directly from www.carlife-mall.net for around $460 to $580.
Chris Lund's website sells the unit for around $848. All he did was mark the unit up. FYI

Really?? You even know what you are talking about here before you bash??? Would be great to hear a explanation how its 300 more on my site than others? Did you even bother to read all info? Did you change the setting to display the prices without the Swedish tax for example and so on..Sure you get the same help ans support from China sellers....;)

Chris The Swede 02-23-2018 12:30 PM


Avilly 02-23-2018 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by tresean1 (Post 7344471)
Thank you guy for doing the R&D and going thru the growing pains on this.
I think I will wait until all the kinks are ironed out and the unit/install is perfected.
I'd get anxiety attacks if I tried this and something went wrong.

i was feeling the same way, but I’ve been so excited since I saw this post I decided to buy one from Chris a few minutes ago. I’m going to stand at my window for the next few weeks waiting for the delivery guy!

Chris The Swede 02-23-2018 08:06 PM

Thanx a million for the suport... Will ship on monday...

kajtek1 02-23-2018 10:03 PM

Nice of you Chris to come and chime in.
Talking about support, that topic has 65 replies and I am still confused what the unit can and what can not. I am particularity interested in GPS and possibility to work with aftermarket camera.
You linked new android video, but with no explanation if we can use in our cars? Make it clear it when it works in prelifted and postlifted?
I watch whole video and really admire the guy making the it. He is really, really good, but still reading several pages of comments from last 2 weeks, lot of confusion what unit can do and what can not. The video shows installation for different MB and my unit has different plugs.
Would you mind to add more explanations?

Chris The Swede 02-24-2018 01:40 AM

What you want to know? It works in ALL W212. No matter what OEM unit you have. No RHD bracket though yet.

kajtek1 02-24-2018 10:14 AM

What about GPS and adding cameras? In this topic owners reported that GPS is crappy?

LemonSqueezy 02-24-2018 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Vladds (Post 7386330)
Say you download and install Waze, then turn off your phone, but have the GPS antenna work. Does waze still work?
In other words, does the GPS antenna make this navigation stand alone, or it's still actually running on your phone, on your data minutes.
I mean i realize that Waze has those interactive features that make it what it is, so maybe then Google maps works without having your phone on?

Is there any voice control, either the original one from the Command, or anything in this unit?

An internet based navigation like Waze would only work well with an internet connection. You can of course use offline navigation apps or download offline Google maps. I am not having good luck with my antenna though, not sure if it's a placement issue or if there are better antennas i could hook up with.

Voice control is not integrated with anything on the android side.

Vladds 02-24-2018 04:54 PM

But still works on the command side ?

Chris The Swede 02-24-2018 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Vladds (Post 7389599)
But still works on the command side ?

Of course..As sais so many times..Nothing is affected on OEM comand features.

kajtek1 02-25-2018 10:04 AM

So Chris are you going to answer our concerns about GPS?

Chris The Swede 02-25-2018 11:36 AM

I have no problems at all with this with mine placed at top of windscreen behind rearview mirror...

dacia 02-27-2018 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by bbbbbbb (Post 7378679)
You can buy the unit at www.carlife-mall.net for around $500 for the unit, $60 for shipping, $20 for paypal charge = $580. Save yourself almost $300!
But you have to wait until after Feb. 25th. It's a holiday over there (China) and they are shutdown until then. They'll accept payments right now, but won't ship the unit until after Feb. 25th.

In the European Union there is a flat tax called VAT (Vale Added Tax). If you live in the Union and purchase something from within the Union you have to pay the tax. If you live outside then you don't.
Chris has prices on his site for both kind of purchases. If you order from outside the Union your current price is US $641 plus shipping of $34.40 for the total of US $675.40.
Compare that to the Chinese price and decide if the support you will get from Chris is worth the extra cost.
If you are patient, can decipher sometimes cryptic Chinese English, can wait for days or weeks for questionable technical support spring for the Chinese version.
If you want prompt support it will cost you money.

HarLam 02-28-2018 10:32 PM

Hi guys,

Just received a unit I bought from Ebay and noticed a few things about the wiring harness.

1. It has a number of extra wires labelled +12V, ACC in, ACC out, Reverse in and IR.
2.The Aux out is also a RCA->USB adapter (not 3.5mm plug)
3. There isn't a cable labelled AB (is this necessary?)
I've attached pictures if someone is able to go over them. I just wanted to make sure this harness would work for my car. I have a 2014 E350 with factory navigation, backup camera.
-was also wondering if I would need to connect the GPS since the car already has the factory GPS (I'm assuming yes since I believe the new GPS is used for the Android part)
-and is the other screw in attachment the Wifi antenna?

-Sorry, I've installed other android headunits before, but they came with a diagram at least. no instructions were included and wanted to see if anyone could give me a few pointers. Thanks in advance.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a123fa01d7.jpg

This is the harness.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ce93bdec31.jpg

These are the wires in question, 12V, ACC in/out, IR, Reverse in.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9cee6c656a.jpg

USB plug instead of 3.5mm plug (goes to the center console?)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...196c535b9a.jpg

Is this the Wifi antenna?

Chris The Swede 03-01-2018 03:27 AM

I dont see how that will work with your car?? Now same as mine. It must have the AB for can bus.

HarLam 03-01-2018 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7393580)
I dont see how that will work with your car?? Now same as mine. It must have the AB for can bus.

Thank you for the reply Chris. Maybe I should have contacted you to make the purchase, but did not realize the price was similar since I would not need to pay the VAT. I did contact the seller and it seems this may be the harness for the C Class sedan and not the E Class. Will await his reply.

Chris The Swede 03-01-2018 06:12 PM

Bull...They use the same cable kit.

Avilly 03-01-2018 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7389083)
Thanx a million for the suport... Will ship on monday...

Chris, am I supposed to get a shipping confirmation? Itll be a week since my order tomorrow. Can’t wait, so excited!

Chris The Swede 03-02-2018 03:16 AM

And you are? All trackings are mailed and uploaded to the website accounts.

Avilly 03-02-2018 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7394371)
And you are? All trackings are mailed and uploaded to the website accounts.

Just sent you a PM about it. Thanks.

aznmode 03-08-2018 02:02 PM

Just installed this on my 2010 C300 and so far I'm loving it. It seems auto audio switching from OEM radio audio to lets say youtube doesn't work. I thought it was working the other day but today it isn't. I'll check it again.

Also, although it says I have 12gb internal storage left, it will not let me install additional apps besides waze, swiftkey, iheart radio. It tells me I need to make more room to install new apps. I want to install supersu to confirm root so I will probably delete waze for now. If it is rooted, I will just use Foldermount to move app data to sd card.

UPDATE: Tried switching from stock radio to youtube and audio did not auto switch. Changed the setting from BT to Aux again just to see if that would make a difference but did not.

I uninstalled Waze and installed supersu and Folder mount and supersu says I'm not rooted. So I guess for now I'm stuck with limited app install.

kajtek1 03-08-2018 02:27 PM

Well,.. if Silicon Valley guy is dropping the flag on the unit, I don't think I want to spend my money on it.
Time to check Tom-Tom GPS units...

aznmode 03-08-2018 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7373871)
Pretty sure dsenela is talking about the setting in the android unit that asks for a password not the factory engineering mode. Also @dsenela the device is already rooted, so if you know your way around android and/or willing to learn then you can make some nice changes to the unit yourself, especially fixing text mistakes. Dont forget to backup the system, which is super easy since it is already rooted. The HI text is there when the AC is at the highest settings and LO at the lowest, it should change when you use AC but it seems like there is an issue with canbus communication. Climate info shows up fine in my CLS.

Just wondering how you determined it is rooted?

aznmode 03-08-2018 04:22 PM

Weird. Got into my car again for lunch and audio auto switch worked again from OEM radio to youtube. Then I switched back to OEM Radio then back to youtube and it didn't auto switch. So i thought maybe it only works after a reboot so I did a restart on the android side under settings > system. Car was still on and Radio still playing while screen rebooted. After complete reboot, went to youtube again and still audio didn't auto switch.

Will try it again when I'm off work when the car has not been restarted for a few hours. Maybe once the car has completely shut down is when it will work.

Chris The Swede 03-08-2018 04:26 PM

Did you buy it from me?

aznmode 03-08-2018 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7399728)
Did you buy it from me?

Hi Chris. No I did not unfortunately. Wish I did though but can't go back now.

Chris The Swede 03-08-2018 04:48 PM

I help you anyway....Mail me.

aznmode 03-08-2018 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7399747)
I help you anyway....Mail me.

Thank you!!

dsenela 03-09-2018 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7399618)
Just installed this on my 2010 C300 and so far I'm loving it. It seems auto audio switching from OEM radio audio to lets say youtube doesn't work. I thought it was working the other day but today it isn't. I'll check it again.

Also, although it says I have 12gb internal storage left, it will not let me install additional apps besides waze, swiftkey, iheart radio. It tells me I need to make more room to install new apps. I want to install supersu to confirm root so I will probably delete waze for now. If it is rooted, I will just use Foldermount to move app data to sd card.

UPDATE: Tried switching from stock radio to youtube and audio did not auto switch. Changed the setting from BT to Aux again just to see if that would make a difference but did not.

I uninstalled Waze and installed supersu and Folder mount and supersu says I'm not rooted. So I guess for now I'm stuck with limited app install.

The unit is NOT rooted (at least mine wasn't). I did manage to root it using kingroot (very easy). I too was running into the space limitation problem, I used app2sd to move all my apps to sdcard. you must be rooted for this to work. I now have enough space to install various offline navigation apps. My favorite so far is 'offline maps & navigation' it is absolutely free, no ads and has a pretty decent voice guidance system, it also allows you to download offline maps and store them on external sdcard (I downloaded entire North America maps and saved on 32GB SDCard) the only downside is the app does not appear in the unit's list of nav apps, therefore you can not select it as the default nav app, you will always have to run it from the applications folder, I found that only a handful of nav apps available can be recognized for selection - Google Maps, Igo, Waze & Sygic. While browsing the root folder I found a settings file that appears to control what nav applications appear on the selection list, I will try to tweak it to see if I can add more entries to the list. Meanwhile, I am looking for a way to change some of the UI graphics to correct some minor language issues. Before making any changes be sure to backup your unit, I would not recommend messing with any of these if you are not familiar with android tweaking/rooting process.

aznmode 03-09-2018 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7400708)
The unit is NOT rooted (at least mine wasn't). I did manage to root it using kingroot (very easy). I too was running into the space limitation problem, I used app2sd to move all my apps to sdcard. you must be rooted for this to work. I now have enough space to install various offline navigation apps. My favorite so far is 'offline maps & navigation' it is absolutely free, no ads and has a pretty decent voice guidance system, it also allows you to download offline maps and store them on external sdcard (I downloaded entire North America maps and saved on 32GB SDCard) the only downside is the app does not appear in the unit's list of nav apps, therefore you can not select it as the default nav app, you will always have to run it from the applications folder, I found that only a handful of nav apps available can be recognized for selection - Google Maps, Igo, Waze & Sygic. While browsing the root folder I found a settings file that appears to control what nav applications appear on the selection list, I will try to tweak it to see if I can add more entries to the list. Meanwhile, I am looking for a way to change some of the UI graphics to correct some minor language issues. Before making any changes be sure to backup your unit, I would not recommend messing with any of these if you are not familiar with android tweaking/rooting process.

Thanks for the reply. I actually found out about kingroot working on the Avin BMW android units a few days ago but only got the nerve to try it on our units this morning and it worked. Glad it's done without any pc and running adb commands etc. I was using Foldermount but found another app to move app to sd but it isn't app2sd but still works the same. Will update my post once I get into my car. I did however only move youtube since it was the only app taking over 200gb +. The rest are just double digit so I left them alone for now. So I now have room for apps. I've been rooting and familiar with flashing roms via customer recoveries etc for quite some time now since samsung s3 days although I haven't rooted anything for over 2 years now. So if there is anything new out there, I will not be familiar with them. Did you use customer recovery to back up the rom?

Also luckily, I have 10gb hotspot on my phone plan so I just Waze for navigation. What did you mean about found what nav app shows up in the selection? As in the home screen first selection "Navigation"? But yes that would be great if we can add more without going into apps. Let me know!

Chris The Swede 03-10-2018 03:56 AM

GOOD POSTS!!! Keep it up.

aznmode 03-10-2018 04:08 AM

I also wanted to point out a good app called X-plore. Since I use my phone as a hot spot (essentially making my phone and screen be on the same network) I am able to make my phone as a server so the Android screen can access my files or movies on my phone over Wi-Fi and play them. No need for external usb drive. App needs to be installed on both.

Vladds 03-10-2018 08:03 AM

Now, one of the ebay vendors is offering this unit with a front DVR included.
Chris, are you making progress on this front?
Also, I have to believe that the Avin units for BMW are of the same origin and they offer an array of extras, among which front DVR, but also a carplay adaptor.

Also, I've noticed that the guy that posted the youtube installation video (are you in this thread?), took down the display, briefly commented that he's replacing it with a better up-coming display, then took down that comment.
Is anybody making progress with the units conversion to imperial?

Chris The Swede 03-10-2018 08:07 AM

Can not be the same unit..There are similar ones out there but far from same can bus features and interface functions with big ectra boxes to install.

He was going to make his own screen version of something totaly diffrent ownmade and nothing like this unit.

LemonSqueezy 03-10-2018 01:39 PM

I'm loving all the info coming in!

aznmode 03-12-2018 02:38 PM

Are you guys having issue any of these issues?

1. Sometimes I get a completely black screen and the home and back screen button will pop in and out of the screen every 2 seconds?

2. Sometimes the OEM screen won't show and it's just black. I can still access the android side however.

They happen quite often and a bit annoying as I will have to shut the car off and wait about 5 min before I can restart the car. Otherwise the android system doesn't shut down so it can reboot properly.

Chris The Swede 03-12-2018 02:40 PM

I wonder what version you bought....Never heard of this.

aznmode 03-12-2018 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7402608)
I wonder what version you bought....Never heard of this.

Does this help?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...26ea6b8e31.jpg

aznmode 03-12-2018 05:57 PM

So I bought a bluetooth OBDII scanner that plugs into my OBDII. This way I can see information such as RPM, speed, boost, temp etc on the screen. Except I can't get it to pair. When I go to my bluetooth setting, I see the OBDII on the list but when I try to pair, it won't pop up the screen to where I can enter the pairing code. Do you guys know of any bluetooth OBDII devices that do not require a pairing code?

This is the one I bought originally but kept coming off.


This is the new one which was a firmer fit and doesn't come off.



UPDATE: Solved my issue
Found this app to pre program pin code for bluetooth connections. Well worth the $1.99 price tag for what I'm trying to accomplish.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...con.btautopair

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f69b5609b6.jpg

I purchased Torque Pro from the play store and here is a screen shot.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...g.prowl.torque

Not sure I like the interface of Torque Pro so I will keep searching for one that I like.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...438adaa469.jpg

aznmode 03-12-2018 06:13 PM

Here are 2 similar cool app so you don't need to mess with that small dot in the bottom left corner of the screen to expand the home and back button. I'm using the LMT Pie on xda since I also use it on my phone. The issue I found with the xda one is that you can't access accessibility option on your screen. You need to access this for the back button to work. The one from the play store will get you to accessibility during setup. But if you are rooted then the xda one will work right away.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....jun.simplepie
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho....php?t=1330150

I have mine set to so I just swipe from the left or right side (mid section) of the screen and added a "recent app" button so I can get to my open apps quickly without going to home > apps. Also set up "quick Openquicksettings" button so I can quickly access BT, wifi, etc.

Mikeki7 03-13-2018 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7399665)
Just wondering how you determined it is rooted?

I used mtk droid tool, since the device uses a mediatek processor. Mine was pre rooted but I guess not all are. You need a computer and usb cable to hook up to the device.

aznmode 03-16-2018 12:26 PM

Has anyone been successful getting mirroring to work?

Chris The Swede 03-16-2018 12:49 PM

That is no problem at all...Just conected phone and did the settings and its there.

aznmode 03-16-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7405952)
That is no problem at all...Just conected phone and did the settings and its there.

Chris, which phone model do you have? I can't get this to work on Samsung note 8 and samsung S7 edge.

Chris The Swede 03-16-2018 01:23 PM

iPhone of course..It there something else? :)

aznmode 03-16-2018 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7405989)
iPhone of course..It there something else? :)

Good one Chris =P lol. Can you tell me the process on an iphone? My coworker has an iphone 8. I used my note 8 as hot spot so I connected the android 10.25 and his iphone 8 to my phone. I can't seem to get it to work either. Is it supposed to install something to the iphone during connection?

UPDATE: Got it working on iphone. Had to go to the control center enable mirroring option on the phone.

I think it's kind of ironic that this android 10.25 mirroring works on iphone but not on any of my android phones lol.

aznmode 03-16-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7402600)
Are you guys having issue any of these issues?

1. Sometimes I get a completely black screen and the home and back screen button will pop in and out of the screen every 2 seconds?

2. Sometimes the OEM screen won't show and it's just black. I can still access the android side however.

They happen quite often and a bit annoying as I will have to shut the car off and wait about 5 min before I can restart the car. Otherwise the android system doesn't shut down so it can reboot properly.

UPDATE:
1. I think this was due to me moving youtube to sd card. After moving it back to internal storage I have not had this issue come up.

2. Still get this issue 50% of the time and am working with the seller to get it figure out. I tried reinstalling the kit all over again but no luck. I think I have a faulty video adapter but I have no way of confirming unless I get it replaced. Hopefully the seller (Innormade Car Products) can figure it out. He says he has direct contact with the engineer so we will see....

lay3r3 03-16-2018 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7400708)
The unit is NOT rooted (at least mine wasn't). I did manage to root it using kingroot (very easy). I too was running into the space limitation problem, I used app2sd to move all my apps to sdcard. you must be rooted for this to work. I now have enough space to install various offline navigation apps. My favorite so far is 'offline maps & navigation' it is absolutely free, no ads and has a pretty decent voice guidance system, it also allows you to download offline maps and store them on external sdcard (I downloaded entire North America maps and saved on 32GB SDCard) the only downside is the app does not appear in the unit's list of nav apps, therefore you can not select it as the default nav app, you will always have to run it from the applications folder, I found that only a handful of nav apps available can be recognized for selection - Google Maps, Igo, Waze & Sygic. While browsing the root folder I found a settings file that appears to control what nav applications appear on the selection list, I will try to tweak it to see if I can add more entries to the list. Meanwhile, I am looking for a way to change some of the UI graphics to correct some minor language issues. Before making any changes be sure to backup your unit, I would not recommend messing with any of these if you are not familiar with android tweaking/rooting process.

I am on pins and needles! Please let us know asap. I never rooted anything before, but would like it done to install Waze. and update it when it is needed.
I haven't bought my unit yet. (I had contacted Chris way back when he first posted it, then there is the holidays then 1/1 - my work's busiest time with new client enrollment. Then with tax day coming. But once after 4/15, I'll find the time to tinker.)

Would like to root once I buy, and would love to know if you are successful getting access and fix the Chinglish.

Is the resolution look pretty high quality? from all the pics it looks pretty good.

Also is it true that all the Nav apps will run off of tethered phone, off of internet access?

Our GPS antenna is only good for the internal MB Navigation, correct? or does it support other 3rd part Nav apps with offline maps are downloaded? Waze doesn't do offline maps does it?

sorry, lots of questions...

Chris The Swede 03-17-2018 03:42 AM

In Android srttings you can tell it to store on SD card instead of "phone"...

Resolution is crisp

All NAvi aps can run without Internet. Only Google maps that need internet for updating to latest info.

OEM Antenna only works for OEM unit.

Avilly 03-18-2018 08:45 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c829304be.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...792b2a1c9c.jpg
Hey guy, I’m got my console popped open and all the guys hanging out as I’m trying to install this thing. I’m a little confused.

1) Where does the AUX cable plug into?
2) fiber optics cable mentioned in Chris’ video, does it stay plugged into the OEM harness? In the video the fiber optics cables look to be red in the upper right hand of the wire harness. Mine has a blue and orange wires wrapped in a purple protective coat. Are those the same fiber optics cables?

please help. I want to get his all tucked before it gets dark. I don’t want to drive to work tomorrow with this stuff hanging out!

Chris The Swede 03-18-2018 08:58 PM

Bought from me?

Avilly 03-18-2018 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7407596)
Bought from me?

Yes, sir!

Mikeki7 03-18-2018 09:24 PM

The fiber optics cable goes to the new harness and into the head unit. The aux cable connects to the red and white rca plugs then you route it somewhere in the car.

Avilly 03-18-2018 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407613)
The fiber optics cable goes to the new harness and into the head unit. The aux cable connects to the red and white rca plugs then you route it somewhere in the car.

ok, I’ve got the optics cable plugged in, but still little confused about the AUX. The AUX that comes with your screen wire harness is a male 3.5mm plug.

Mikeki7 03-18-2018 09:40 PM

There should be a female aux plug in on the harness, the unit gets audio through the aux so you have to wire it in a way that will connect to the cars factory aux. That aux is not for your phone.

Avilly 03-18-2018 09:47 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2b8c44265.jpeg

Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407622)
There should be a female aux plug in on the harness, the unit gets audio through the aux so you have to wire it in a way that will connect to the cars factory aux. That aux is not for your phone.

I’m sorry, Chris. I’m not understanding. The harness comes with red and white female plugs and a 3.5mm male plug. What plugs into what?

here is the harness pic again.

Mikeki7 03-18-2018 09:58 PM

The aux cable should look like this

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....eL._SX300_.jpg

red and white plug into female red and white, and the aux plug plugs into the cars factory female aux from the mmi cable in the center storage container.

Avilly 03-18-2018 10:03 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...27c7e1a487.jpg

Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407639)
The aux cable should look like this

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....eL._SX300_.jpg

red and white plug into female red and white, and the aux plug plugs into the cars factory female aux from the mmi cable in the center storage container.

I don’t see those cables in the box. These are the only cable I have left over. See pic.

Mikeki7 03-18-2018 11:01 PM

That is unfortunate, you will have to buy one then and connect it to the female aux on that mmi cable on the left of that picture.

Avilly 03-18-2018 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407667)
That is unfortunate, you will have to buy one then and connect it to the female aux on that mmi cable on the left of that picture.

Well that sucks. I’m going to have to put everything back and then pull everything back out once I buy the cable. I still have some issues:

1) Once I go and purchase the aux cable that’s missing, I’m still not clear on where the male auxthatbis included in wire harness plugs into? The aux cable you suggested has 3 male plugs (2 colored/1 black) if the black 3.5mm male plug in your suggested six cable plugs into the mmi input, where does the 3.5mm cable in the screen harness go???

2) Ii have a spare aux cable that has male red/white plugs and a female 3.5mm plug. Can I use this one one attach a long male/male 3.5mm plug to run to the mmi input? This scenario still would leave the wire harness male 3.5mm plug unused.

3) I plugged everything in for a test run before I put everything back in place, but the OEM functions/screen won’t work. Only the android screen appears. No audio either. I checked that all connections are tight and correct. Made sure the small white plug on the right side of the head unit was plugged back in. I did not get audio using the setup described in #2.

4) once everything was plugged in, I got a warning on my dashboard that said “hazard warning flashers malfunctioning.” Any idea what could be happening here?

5) I can’t seem to slide the head unit back in with the new wire harness back there. Spent 45 min wrestling with it just now trying to get the wiring buried deep in there and couldn’t get it settled in. Any ideas/suggestions?

Guys, please help!


Avilly 03-19-2018 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407667)
That is unfortunate, you will have to buy one then and connect it to the female aux on that mmi cable on the left of that picture.


UPDATE:

finally got my OEM screen and functions to work! Also got audio to work on radio, CDs, etc. I didn’t need an Aux cable or anything. The issue was the big square plug that connects to the head unit. I kept wrestling with it and unplugging and plugging it back in. Finally it settles in just enough to get the functions and screen to work. Again, I didn’t need to plug in an aux cable. My voice commands work, radio works, phone works! Don’t know if anyone else had this same issue. In case some of you are wondering I have a 2014 E350.

The only issue left is getting my iPhone 7 to tether to the screen so I can use Waze or access the Internet on the screen.

Mikeki7 03-19-2018 02:02 AM

audio will work from the stock head unit, but not audio from the android unit unless you bluetooth stream so you still need the aux cable.

Chris The Swede 03-19-2018 04:10 AM

Why didnt you just email me?? That how I support these installs.

aznmode 03-19-2018 05:50 PM

New accessory

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...13781cd08f.jpg

Installed Google assistant so I can voice dictate location, text entry, etc.

The USB port is not hot swap-able so you will need to plug this in prior to turning your car on.

It does produce some static sometimes so it's not able to pick up what I'm saying when that happens. But still better than not having a mic.

dacia 03-19-2018 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7407742)



UPDATE:

finally got my OEM screen and functions to work! Also got audio to work on radio, CDs, etc. I didn’t need an Aux cable or anything. The issue was the big square plug that connects to the head unit. I kept wrestling with it and unplugging and plugging it back in. Finally it settles in just enough to get the functions and screen to work. Again, I didn’t need to plug in an aux cable. My voice commands work, radio works, phone works! Don’t know if anyone else had this same issue. In case some of you are wondering I have a 2014 E350.

The only issue left is getting my iPhone 7 to tether to the screen so I can use Waze or access the Internet on the screen.

How did you tuck everything behind the COMAND unit?
I have the same car and space is extremely limited back there.
Also, did you pull the USB cable for the Android unit into the glove box?
If not where did you put it?
Thanks.

JustinJGGroves 03-19-2018 09:35 PM

Navi
 
I have everything working perfectly. EXCEPT GOOGLE MAPS NAVI. I really want this to work as this is one of the main reasons I bought it. I log into Google maps (yes the secret screen does have Google maps selected as there are no other apps downloaded and my hot spot and tether are perfect). It picks up my location flawlessly. Exact location. I select destination it gives me route guidance but the blue dot never turns to an arrow to give me turn by turn directions. Anyone having issues with this? Also is it possible to use the microphone on Google to speak to text? This wouild be clutch! Anyway other than that In ove the thing! Movies you tube it's amazing. People roll up on my car and see a video and trip out haha. Side note I did download waze and try it thru there but it said no gps location found..Google maps picks it up perfect. My command navi still works perfect it' just terribly out dated and super basic. Can anyone help with finessing this thing?

Avilly 03-19-2018 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7407779)
Why didnt you just email me?? That how I support these installs.

Chris, what’s your email? Can you PM me with it?

Avilly 03-19-2018 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7407759)
audio will work from the stock head unit, but not audio from the android unit unless you bluetooth stream so you still need the aux cable.

So can I plug a BT dongle into the AUX in the armrest and get Android screen audio that way without having to run an AUX cable through the center console?

Avilly 03-19-2018 10:48 PM

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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7ae811bca.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8d9a52d1a.jpeg

Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7408455)
How did you tuck everything behind the COMAND unit?
I have the same car and space is extremely limited back there.
Also, did you pull the USB cable for the Android unit into the glove box?
If not where did you put it?
Thanks.

I couldn’t figure out how to get the head unit back in with all the cabling either. I had to drive to work to day with my head unit sticking out about 2 inches and the vent trim just loosely placed. See pic. It looks embarrassing. all the DIY videos show the head unit just slipping right in. Anyone have suggestions?

I did run the USB cable up and into the glovebox space adjacent to the vents. I still have to removed the glovebox upper lining to pull it thru. There are a few small openings in the upper lining of the glovebox and I can feel it with my finger. I probably won’t get to this for another few weeks due to time.

aznmode 03-20-2018 02:08 AM

On the w204 space is limited too. Not sure if this applies to w212 but what I did was made sure the big square connector was under the command unit. Thats what preventing the command to sit further if it's stuck behind it. Had to use a long wrench (solid metal ruler probably would work better). Get that big square connector tucked under before you push the command in. Look under the command as you are pushing it in. There should be enough space to see the connector and for the ruler or wrench to get in there. Use the ruler to make sure the square connector stays under by pushing down on it.

If you squish this connector behind the command you will have issues as I did. My command screen would intermittently not show up on the android screen. Took me weeks to figure out my issue

Chris The Swede 03-20-2018 03:42 AM

chris@mbsca.com

aznmode 03-20-2018 02:03 PM

I started a thread 2 weeks ago in the w204 forum for those who have a w204.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...reen-unit.html

JustinJGGroves 03-20-2018 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7408517)
I have everything working perfectly. EXCEPT GOOGLE MAPS NAVI. I really want this to work as this is one of the main reasons I bought it. I log into Google maps (yes the secret screen does have Google maps selected as there are no other apps downloaded and my hot spot and tether are perfect). It picks up my location flawlessly. Exact location. I select destination it gives me route guidance but the blue dot never turns to an arrow to give me turn by turn directions. Anyone having issues with this? Also is it possible to use the microphone on Google to speak to text? This wouild be clutch! Anyway other than that In ove the thing! Movies you tube it's amazing. People roll up on my car and see a video and trip out haha. Side note I did download waze and try it thru there but it said no gps location found..Google maps picks it up perfect. My command navi still works perfect it' just terribly out dated and super basic. Can anyone help with finessing this thing?

struggle is real as to why it' not moving yet picking up my location...

Red-Town 03-20-2018 06:01 PM

Does the original GPS track your movement?

aznmode 03-20-2018 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Red-Town (Post 7409256)
Does the original GPS track your movement?

OEM GPS will only work and track if you are using the Mercedes OEM navigation. It is completely separate from the Android system that is why the android unit has it's own GPS antenna to use with google maps, waze, igo, or whatever android navigation you decide to use.

HarLam 03-21-2018 01:52 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1497775aee.jpg

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7393580)
I dont see how that will work with your car?? Now same as mine. It must have the AB for can bus.


Hi guys,

Finally was able to get a replacement cable from my seller. I just want to make sure this is the correct cable. it seems to have the AB cables, but I'm not sure where I would connect the actual male AB cable into. I'm assuming I would connect it to either the A or B connector, but does anyone know which for a 2014 E350?

Also,anyone know where I can get the 3.5mm to MMI cable to connect to the center console AUX input?

Sorry for all the questions. TIA.

Avilly 03-21-2018 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7408732)

Thanks. Chris.
I just sent you an email with the issues I’m having.

Albert

aznmode 03-21-2018 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7409645)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1497775aee.jpg



Hi guys,

Finally was able to get a replacement cable from my seller. I just want to make sure this is the correct cable. it seems to have the AB cables, but I'm not sure where I would connect the actual male AB cable into. I'm assuming I would connect it to either the A or B connector, but does anyone know which for a 2014 E350?

Also,anyone know where I can get the 3.5mm to MMI cable to connect to the center console AUX input?

Sorry for all the questions. TIA.

Yours didn't come with one?

You can get them on Amazon. Although the OEM one is female 3.5mm. You can find OEM on ebay with female 3.5mm jack but are more expensive.

LOOYUAN 3.5mm AUX media Interface Adapter Cable For Mercedes Benz
I actually had this one below before I bought the android head unit and this works well with it. It's bluetooth. You still need to set the audio on the android to aux in the hidden menu.

Eximtrade Mercedes Media Inerface MMI to Bluetooth CSR Chipset USB Flash Charger MP3 Music Cable for Mercedes Benz

HarLam 03-21-2018 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7409670)
Yours didn't come with one?

You can get them on Amazon. Although the OEM one is female 3.5mm. You can find OEM on ebay with female 3.5mm jack but are more expensive.

LOOYUAN 3.5mm AUX media Interface Adapter Cable For Mercedes Benz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014CWM7H0..._R-FSAbHVXYE6H

I actually had this one below before I bought the android head unit and this works well with it. It's bluetooth. You still need to set the audio on the android to aux in the hidden menu.

Eximtrade Mercedes Media Inerface MMI to Bluetooth CSR Chipset USB Flash Charger MP3 Music Cable for Mercedes Benz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018CR99LS..._PWFSAbDZ2Q7T1

Thanks, I did end up getting one on Amazon so should have it in a few days. I'm thinking of making a felt false bottom to cover the cable and then add a wireless charger underneath since there's an extra usb connector in the center console.

Tried to mess with the unit before I placed it in the car and downloaded King Root. Any concerns about the privacy issues? It says it can log all of the key inputs, including credit card info, etc., except passwords. I've usually rooted through recovery before so haven't used King Root. I'm not even sure how to get into Recovery on these units. Thx.

Heisenberg5070 03-21-2018 12:10 PM

Will this work if I have a video interface already installed??

Chris The Swede 03-21-2018 12:11 PM

Yes of course. A bit tighter in the back though.

Heisenberg5070 03-21-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
Yes of course. A bit tighter in the back though.

Ok. Only reason I ask is because I have a front camera installed with the video interface. And an Apple TV hooked up to it.

Red-Town 03-21-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7409932)
Ok. Only reason I ask is because I have a front camera installed with the video interface. And an Apple TV hooked up to it.

How is the apple tv working with the comand unit? My modding never ends.

Heisenberg5070 03-21-2018 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Red-Town
How is the apple tv working with the comand unit? My modding never ends.

I purchased a video interface from eBay. Purchased an Apple tv3 and also got a modded power supply for it so that it works off of usb power. I can send you all the details later on.

Red-Town 03-21-2018 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7409997)
I purchased a video interface from eBay. Purchased an Apple tv3 and also got a modded power supply for it so that it works off of usb power. I can send you all the details later on.

Thanks mate, I appreciate it.

dacia 03-22-2018 09:20 PM

Chris, any news about the RHD frame for the W212?

Chris The Swede 03-23-2018 07:10 AM

Its in the plan stage only..They are waiting delivery of OEM frames ans then they start the design process and all. 1-2 months

HarLam 03-24-2018 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7374524)
The lost translations are not really a deal breaker for me, I am still in awe at how much work and effort was invested in making the unit's aesthetics and functions way better than my current OEM, with menus in different languages to boot. I was just hoping there was a quick way we could tweak the unit to finesse some of these minor issues. I too have spent my entire life using the metric system (and English is not my native language either,) it would be nice to have an option to switch between them though.

The password I was referring to is the one on the android unit, not the OEM HU. I knew about Engineering mode, but learned about the dealer menu today, I will try it out to see what's in there, thanks!

@Mikeki7, I just assumed the unit was not rooted, this is sweet!, I will definitely be digging in there to find what is possible. About the 'HI' not changing I believe it could be vehicle specific, my w204 does not have LO/HI settings on the climate controls. Also today in sub-zero morning temps the unit started behaving strangely, randomly getting stuck in boot loops and freezing on some screens, but it is probably just a loose connection, I will check all my connections again when it gets warmer.

The code for access to some of the hidden menus is 111111 for the "factory settings" menu.

From there, you will have access to the regular android settings menu as well as a few other features. there is a selection icon for MBZ model, c,e, etc although I found it does not make a difference in the interface. You can also turn on Bluetooth on the android side from there as well. To unlock the developer options, you have to go and tap on build number (if i recall correctly) about 6-7 times, and you get access to things like USB debugging and such. I haven't had time yet, but I will try to use a usb-usb cable to see if I can get ADB access.

Avilly 03-24-2018 07:49 PM

After 4 bloody knuckles, two weeks, and an angry wife, I still cannot get head unit to drop back into its OEM position. I’ve been wrestling with the cables for two weeks now for a few hours a day and it won’t sit into the slot fully.

I also tried drop the USB cable into the glove box but had a dammed time doing that also so the USB cable is not resting behind the dash trim until I figure out how to get it into the glove box.

On a a positive note, the screen I ordered from Chris didn’t come with the correct aux cable harness, but turns out I didn’t need it. You don’t have to plug the white and white cables like in the video. I just dropped the 3.5mm down into the passenger foot well and tucked it under the edge of the trim. Then ran it along to the armrest. Plugged it into the aux plug and I get full sound my android side and OEM side. YouTube, web videos etc. All good!

Anyone able to offer any tips on the head unit issue? It’s really pissing me off.

Mikeki7 03-24-2018 10:12 PM

Glad you got the aux issue figured out. For the usb cable I routed it down through the passenger side trim between the leather/plastic trim and the carpet right before the transition to the center trim where the cup holders are, this way I can push it up and away from sight when not in use. The cls must have way more space in the back because I have a mods4cars tv in motion module back there and still fit everything. Not sure how similar it is behind the unit but for a lot of the longer cables I routed them up closer to where the screen is, leaving the head unit with only enough slack to pull it out and get my hand in there to disconnect it. Also do a stereo channel test and make sure you are getting proper left and right sound from the aux. The rca/aux cable that came with the unit was ****ty quality and the mmi cable reversed the left and right channels for some reason, so I switched backed to the oem mmi cable.

Avilly 03-24-2018 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7412903)
Glad you got the aux issue figured out. For the usb cable I routed it down through the passenger side trim between the leather/plastic trim and the carpet right before the transition to the center trim where the cup holders are, this way I can push it up and away from sight when not in use. The cls must have way more space in the back because I have a mods4cars tv in motion module back there and still fit everything. Not sure how similar it is behind the unit but for a lot of the longer cables I routed them up closer to where the screen is, leaving the head unit with only enough slack to pull it out and get my hand in there to disconnect it. Also do a stereo channel test and make sure you are getting proper left and right sound from the aux. The rca/aux cable that came with the unit was ****ty quality and the mmi cable reversed the left and right channels for some reason, so I switched backed to the oem mmi cable.

Another problem solved. I went to the store and just purchased a USB extender, fished the small end through a small hole at the rear of the glove box and was able to connect it to the main usb plug.

To andwer your question, the android sound was pretty good on YouTube videos. Sounded like I was watching a dvd. The only connection I have is the 3.5mm cable. I didn’t use the white/red cable since they errant included.

Final issue before I complete the install is the damn head unit. I wish the 212 had as much space other models. Please!!!!! Anyone with a 212 who achieved this miracle. How did you do it?

Chris The Swede 03-25-2018 02:09 AM

I dont get it..I have a w212 and no problem. What I use to get stuck on after tucking all cable into any hole there is is that often there is something comming inbetween the back top rear of the comand that goes in pretty much dead onto to the oem bracket wall. So have nothing to do with little space. Often hapen with oem cables as well. That is why they are from factory attached to the comand to not get inbetween the top back. Show me a pick of the install how you tucked all away..

deepthought66 03-25-2018 03:18 PM

Dead center is your best bet
 

Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7412959)


Another problem solved. I went to the store and just purchased a USB extender, fished the small end through a small hole at the rear of the glove box and was able to connect it to the main usb plug.

To andwer your question, the android sound was pretty good on YouTube videos. Sounded like I was watching a dvd. The only connection I have is the 3.5mm cable. I didn’t use the white/red cable since they errant included.

Final issue before I complete the install is the damn head unit. I wish the 212 had as much space other models. Please!!!!! Anyone with a 212 who achieved this miracle. How did you do it?

Like you, I ended up with bloody knuckles, two weeks and a very angry wife :) LOL
I discovered the solve quite by accident. On a W212 - assuming you have nothing else other than this mod behind the COMAND (I had the ECO Off + VIM mod, that I had to remove) - you need to push the quadlock connector first, straight down the middle, towards the back. Bear with my description here, but if you look in that space, you will see two "butt-cheeks" :D .... and the quadlock connector needs to go in between first. Then, the rest of the cables need to be tucked sort of in the middle; lower the better. Two other things that helped are - one of the cables is attached to the back of the Comand unit with a black "peg" of some sort. Sliding that "peg" out (so that it is no longer tied to the back of the unit) helped tremendously. And finally, and this is a big one - when you slide the Comand back in, many a times, the locking mechanism (remember the two screws at the top of the Comand, that you had to loosen and pull up...so you could slide the Comand out?) ....slips back down. Meaning - you cant slide the unit back in. Use a screwdriver and lift those up a bit.... and voila! Hope this helps, my friend.... I could deal with the bloody knuckles, and the time ....but angry wife? Especially when she thought I'm just "monkeying around in the car on some nonsense".... ? I'm still paying for it. LOL

kajtek1 03-25-2018 03:51 PM

I am in opposite situation.
I have angry wife, only becouse I bought the car with no factory GPS and she is not good in using the suction-cup GPS, nor the android one.
But monitoring the android-conversion threads, this one is not going too well even with Chris chiming-in, where the other vendor just got devastating reviews.
So sinking hundreds of dollars for stuff that MIGHT work, but with my lack of programming skill is very questionable ?? Nope.
Get me a vendor who knows what he is selling and has pictures/videos to support? Is that too much to ask for several hundreds bucks?

Chris The Swede 03-25-2018 04:37 PM

What?? I have 9 videos and do 24/7 support and have a pdf file full of pictures and instructions. What is it you seek in a unit that dont work? Why would you say I dont know what I sell? I have 2 units my self in W166 and W212 and all works as far as I can see.

Ungarisch 03-25-2018 04:54 PM

Chris, my unit arrives tomorrow, where can I download the PDF file?

Chris The Swede 03-25-2018 04:55 PM

Mail me

Avilly 03-25-2018 05:41 PM

Update: I finally got the head unit back far enough to screw it in place. Good thing i decided to test everything one more time before I re-install the dash trim because now the Android audio won't play. I got not sound from Spotify or YouTube anymore. I must have pinched a cable or something with all the wrestling I was doing.

Chris, you never offered me the PDF with instructions. Can you send it to me also?

Avilly 03-25-2018 05:42 PM

Update: I finally got the head unit back far enough to screw it in place. Good thing i decided to test everything one more time before I re-install the dash trim because now the Android audio won't play. I got no sound from Spotify or YouTube anymore. I must have pinched a cable or something with all the wrestling I was doing.

Chris, you never offered me the PDF with instructions. Can you send it to me also?

Avilly 03-25-2018 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7413363)
Like you, I ended up with bloody knuckles, two weeks and a very angry wife :) LOL
I discovered the solve quite by accident. On a W212 - assuming you have nothing else other than this mod behind the COMAND (I had the ECO Off + VIM mod, that I had to remove) - you need to push the quadlock connector first, straight down the middle, towards the back. Bear with my description here, but if you look in that space, you will see two "butt-cheeks" :D .... and the quadlock connector needs to go in between first. Then, the rest of the cables need to be tucked sort of in the middle; lower the better. Two other things that helped are - one of the cables is attached to the back of the Comand unit with a black "peg" of some sort. Sliding that "peg" out (so that it is no longer tied to the back of the unit) helped tremendously. And finally, and this is a big one - when you slide the Comand back in, many a times, the locking mechanism (remember the two screws at the top of the Comand, that you had to loosen and pull up...so you could slide the Comand out?) ....slips back down. Meaning - you cant slide the unit back in. Use a screwdriver and lift those up a bit.... and voila! Hope this helps, my friend.... I could deal with the bloody knuckles, and the time ....but angry wife? Especially when she thought I'm just "monkeying around in the car on some nonsense".... ? I'm still paying for it. LOL

Thanks for the tips! This sounds like what I might have done. However, I did all blind...just by feel. Am I doing something wrong because you answer as well as Chris' sounds like you have a visual somehow. In regards to "locking mechanism," are you referring to the two screws on either side that attach to the frame? That's the only locking mechanism of sorts that I removed to pull the head unit out. Yeah, my wife thought this was cool for about a day, now she's just pissed! I got it back just enough to screw the head unit back down but no I get no android sound. Ideas?

Avilly 03-25-2018 06:25 PM

Done and done.
 
Finally, it’s done!!!!! Thanks to deepthought66’s tip on going down the middle with connector first. I did this and the head unit slipped right in. I’lol post pics and instructions for the other folks later tonight dice to did things a bit differently since my unit came without instructions or aux cables. Thanks to everyone’s help!

Avilly 03-25-2018 08:12 PM

Things I learned during my install
 
In case anyone in interested, here are a few things I learned along the way to bloody knuckles, lots of cussing, and the final install.

1-my unit didn’t come with the red/white aux cables that are shown in the diy videos. The videos shows the cables in connected pairs. Turns out you don’t need them. Just connect the 3.5mm cable to the aux input in your armrest.
2-One thing the videos don’t tell you is that you have to remove half of the damn interior to run cables. I refused to do this so I was able to MacGuyver a few things as to not remove anything other than the dash trim and head unit.
3- run the usb connector over to the space above the glovebox. Do this buy snaking it thru behind the center vents and into a small opening into the area. Take your right arm and stick it thru the passenger side vent opening and pull the usb connector thru. You may need a hanger or pick tool to reach it. Buy a usb extender cable ($5) and stick it thru a small square hole in the roof of the inner lining of the glovebox, reach for it with your arm thru the vent again. Once you have both cables near the vent, connect them. Voila, the new usb plug should now be sitting comfortably in your glove box. My cable is 6 ft so I can comfortably pull it out to plug into anything/anytime. You can tuck the excess cable up into the crevice if you don’t need all the slack.
4-buy yourself a small right angle socket wrench ($3) to remove head unit screws. It’ll save you a lot of patience and yelling if your hands are larger like mine when loose mining head unit screws.
5-when you plug in the quad connector to the back of your head unit, really stick it in there. Don’t be afraid to really shove it in. You won’t break it. It wasn’t until I almost thought I’d break it that the contacts fit snugly and passed the video thru for the OEM screen and fictions. I took me 4 hours of yelling to figure this out.
6-you’re also supposed to somehow run the god antenna up your side pillar and over to where your mirror is. That’s crazy. I just plugged it in and shoved it into the new void left by the old screen. You have plenty of space there with the new mounting face. Mine works perfectly and doesn’t drop signal off when I’m driving and I live in Los Angeles.
7-since I didn’t remove the center console to run the aux cable...’cause that’s crazy, I dropped the aux cable down the passenger side wall and down to where glovebox trim meets side console wall. If you pull very carefully you can slide the cable out thru there. Then simply tuck it along the bottom of the center console side trim. A very simple push with our finger will hide he cable. Then run it up and into the armrest once it gets to the rear of the armrest. It’s pretty invisible without the need to take apart your interior.
8-perhaps the toughest part I encountered...sliding the head unit back in. Thanks to a tip for deepthoughts66 I was able to slide it in after 4 days of pushing, shoving and bloody knuckles.

Screen looks amazing and sounds great. I haven’t done any mods to the system per than download Spotify. Don’t forget to access the secret menu in settings by tapping at the top 4 times. Select your OEM version and select Aux.

I’ve included some dirty daytime pics so you guys can see what it looks like. I also included some gratuitous pics of the plastidipped grill and red calipers.

Let me know if you have any questions and I’ll be happy to help you avoid the mistakes I made in trying to figure this out.

Total install time with aggravation and bloody knuckles: 20 hours.

Actual time it should have taken with better instructions and no self inflicted mistakes: 20 minutes.

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deepthought66 03-25-2018 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7413514)
Finally, it’s done!!!!! Thanks to deepthought66’s tip on going down the middle with connector first. I did this and the head unit slipped right in. I’lol post pics and instructions for the other folks later tonight dice to did things a bit differently since my unit came without instructions or aux cables. Thanks to everyone’s help!

Glad it all worked out! And happy that my tip helped :) Pics look amazing!

dacia 03-26-2018 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7413363)
Like you, I ended up with bloody knuckles, two weeks and a very angry wife :) LOL
I discovered the solve quite by accident. On a W212 - assuming you have nothing else other than this mod behind the COMAND (I had the ECO Off + VIM mod, that I had to remove) ...... L

I think I have the same ECO Off + VIM mod as you do. It's a cable harness I got off ebay for around 100 bucks.
Are you saying that you had to remove it in order to fit the wiring harness for the Android unit in there?
No way the two can coexist?
That ECO off module also closes all my windows, doors, sunroof and 5th door (I have a wagon) when I lock the car and also allows me to play VIM for the kids. It's a great addition.
It would be pretty annoying to lose all that in order to install the Android screen.
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Chris, thanks for the update regarding the RHD frame, I'll start saving for the Android unit.

HarLam 03-26-2018 02:41 AM

Hi everyone,
I was able to finally work on getting the unit installed (2014 e350) and spent about 4 hours trying to get it working in the car. The main problem is that the OEM screen does not come on. Other functions on the Android side seem to work such as GPS, google maps, apps, the center wheel works, although I cannot get sound from the 3.5mm->MMI connection. I've tried to remove and reinsert the quad connector over and over again, as well as change the screen parameters going one by one from 1-10, as well as a complete system reset, and actually reconnecting the OEM screen and connections to make sure that was still working (it works perfectly fine on the old screen). Any other suggestions? I've included some pics to see if anyone can spot any issues.

In terms of the Android audio part, I have tried Spotify, Pandora, Youtube and get the auto switching notification come up, and disappear, but there is no sound. When I press the radio button on the Comand unit, I can hear my radio and such. I just cant' hear any sound from the Android side. Not sure if anyone has tips for getting this to work.

One question, I wanted to see if I could add a microphone, for Google now and voice commands, would it be the USB connector that would accept the microphone for the Android side?

Again, sorry for all the questions and I appreciate any help.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9818054467.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc08f161e2.jpg

back of comand unit with quad connector. I seated this and pushed each connector in squarely.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e4b5340b11.jpg

OEM quad connector, with fiber optic cables moved to new connector


The bright side is that I was able to connect the usb connector to my laptop and was able to make an ADB connection, which is promising. Hopefully, this will lead to some pulling some config .xml files to see if some of the spelling and temp setting can be controlled.

aznmode 03-26-2018 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7413790)
Hi everyone,
I was able to finally work on getting the unit installed (2014 e350) and spent about 4 hours trying to get it working in the car. The main problem is that the OEM screen does not come on. Other functions on the Android side seem to work such as GPS, google maps, apps, the center wheel works, although I cannot get sound from the 3.5mm->MMI connection. I've tried to remove and reinsert the quad connector over and over again, as well as change the screen parameters going one by one from 1-10, as well as a complete system reset, and actually reconnecting the OEM screen and connections to make sure that was still working (it works perfectly fine on the old screen). Any other suggestions? I've included some pics to see if anyone can spot any issues.

In terms of the Android audio part, I have tried Spotify, Pandora, Youtube and get the auto switching notification come up, and disappear, but there is no sound. When I press the radio button on the Comand unit, I can hear my radio and such. I just cant' hear any sound from the Android side. Not sure if anyone has tips for getting this to work.

One question, I wanted to see if I could add a microphone, for Google now and voice commands, would it be the USB connector that would accept the microphone for the Android side?

Again, sorry for all the questions and I appreciate any help.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9818054467.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc08f161e2.jpg

back of comand unit with quad connector. I seated this and pushed each connector in squarely.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e4b5340b11.jpg

OEM quad connector, with fiber optic cables moved to new connector


The bright side is that I was able to connect the usb connector to my laptop and was able to make an ADB connection, which is promising. Hopefully, this will lead to some pulling some config .xml files to see if some of the spelling and temp setting can be controlled.

I had the same issue with the OEM not showing. Does it do this even with the command pulled all the way out and all cables connected? My issue was the quad connector whatever that's called was getting squished when I put the command back in place. Try reconnecting it. If that's not the issue then make sure you have command video connector (smaller plug) completely plugged into the back of the screen. And as xmaximus posted, make sure you have the red wire coming from the video adapter spliced into the yellow 12v power wire of the harness from the kit. Also check the green fakra connectors are connected properly.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a9c9c86be4.jpg

Chris The Swede 03-26-2018 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7413790)
Hi everyone,
I was able to finally work on getting the unit installed (2014 e350) and spent about 4 hours trying to get it working in the car. The main problem is that the OEM screen does not come on. Other functions on the Android side seem to work such as GPS, google maps, apps, the center wheel works, although I cannot get sound from the 3.5mm->MMI connection. I've tried to remove and reinsert the quad connector over and over again, as well as change the screen parameters going one by one from 1-10, as well as a complete system reset, and actually reconnecting the OEM screen and connections to make sure that was still working (it works perfectly fine on the old screen). Any other suggestions? I've included some pics to see if anyone can spot any issues.

In terms of the Android audio part, I have tried Spotify, Pandora, Youtube and get the auto switching notification come up, and disappear, but there is no sound. When I press the radio button on the Comand unit, I can hear my radio and such. I just cant' hear any sound from the Android side. Not sure if anyone has tips for getting this to work.

One question, I wanted to see if I could add a microphone, for Google now and voice commands, would it be the USB connector that would accept the microphone for the Android side?

Again, sorry for all the questions and I appreciate any help.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9818054467.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc08f161e2.jpg

back of comand unit with quad connector. I seated this and pushed each connector in squarely.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e4b5340b11.jpg

OEM quad connector, with fiber optic cables moved to new connector


The bright side is that I was able to connect the usb connector to my laptop and was able to make an ADB connection, which is promising. Hopefully, this will lead to some pulling some config .xml files to see if some of the spelling and temp setting can be controlled.

This is just settings and conectings. As said. If it is old comand ntg4 you need to hook up the red an yellow. If its newer comand thats not it. Then its AB or parameter settings. Bought from me? Them email me for support and instructions.

Avilly 03-26-2018 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7413790)
Hi everyone,
I was able to finally work on getting the unit installed (2014 e350) and spent about 4 hours trying to get it working in the car. The main problem is that the OEM screen does not come on. Other functions on the Android side seem to work such as GPS, google maps, apps, the center wheel works, although I cannot get sound from the 3.5mm->MMI connection. I've tried to remove and reinsert the quad connector over and over again, as well as change the screen parameters going one by one from 1-10, as well as a complete system reset, and actually reconnecting the OEM screen and connections to make sure that was still working (it works perfectly fine on the old screen). Any other suggestions? I've included some pics to see if anyone can spot any issues.

In terms of the Android audio part, I have tried Spotify, Pandora, Youtube and get the auto switching notification come up, and disappear, but there is no sound. When I press the radio button on the Comand unit, I can hear my radio and such. I just cant' hear any sound from the Android side. Not sure if anyone has tips for getting this to work.

One question, I wanted to see if I could add a microphone, for Google now and voice commands, would it be the USB connector that would accept the microphone for the Android side?

Again, sorry for all the questions and I appreciate any help.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9818054467.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc08f161e2.jpg

back of comand unit with quad connector. I seated this and pushed each connector in squarely.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e4b5340b11.jpg

OEM quad connector, with fiber optic cables moved to new connector


The bright side is that I was able to connect the usb connector to my laptop and was able to make an ADB connection, which is promising. Hopefully, this will lead to some pulling some config .xml files to see if some of the spelling and temp setting can be controlled.

I had the same issue on first attempt. The OEM screens not showing up is due to the quad connector not being in all the way. You really have to push it in there. Push it with all your might. Promise you it will work.

Also make sure yor screen setting is #2 in the secret menu. I have the same model car.

In the same menu, select aux for audio. Don’t forget to connect the aux cable to the armrest aux input and select aux from your OEM audio menu. It may be tricky a few times but it will work. Also make sure your phone BT is off otherwise the system will constantly connect to your phone as default and won’t recognize the aux. after the first time it’ll do it automatically.

deepthought66 03-26-2018 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7413784)
I think I have the same ECO Off + VIM mod as you do. It's a cable harness I got off ebay for around 100 bucks.
Are you saying that you had to remove it in order to fit the wiring harness for the Android unit in there?
No way the two can coexist?
That ECO off module also closes all my windows, doors, sunroof and 5th door (I have a wagon) when I lock the car and also allows me to play VIM for the kids. It's a great addition.
It would be pretty annoying to lose all that in order to install the Android screen.
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Chris, thanks for the update regarding the RHD frame, I'll start saving for the Android unit.

Yup. The ECO off + VIM mod does not fit back there in the W212. When the COMAND unit is out, I tried connecting everything in serial, and the solution works. But there is no way it all fits back there. In cars other than the W212, it might, but on ours - there's just no way.

Now, I absolutely love the ECO-off feature, and Vlad (the guy who sold me the original ECO off + VIM mod on eBay) has created an OBD based ECO-off mod, which I just bought. Check it out here - https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...72.m2749.l2649 Re. auto-lock, my car does all of that - close windows, sunroof, doors incl. trunk - when I press and hold the lock button on the key fob. So while I'll miss the one-click feature, the press and hold isnt that bad IMO. Finally, re. VIM - well, the Android screen has no restrictions...so that works as well.

Hope this helps.

aznmode 03-26-2018 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7413790)
One question, I wanted to see if I could add a microphone, for Google now and voice commands, would it be the USB connector that would accept the microphone for the Android side?

I installed a microphone on mine (see post 125) using the USB port, and was able to install Google app (this is a huge app 120mb+) but not google assistant (not compatible with android 5.1.1). The problem I'm having is there is ample static that interferes with it. When car is idle or at a stop, its fine. Once I'm driving the static is more evident so it's difficult to get my voice command recognized by the unit. The mic I bought has great reviews so I can only assume this issue is on the unit itself.

To test static, download a voice recorded app and record while driving, idle, etc.

Chris The Swede 03-26-2018 06:25 PM

The unit have a built in mic..!!

deepthought66 03-26-2018 06:32 PM

Built in mic? How to use it?
 

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7414427)
The unit have a built in mic..!!

Chris, have you tried to use the built-in mic for Google Maps? Touching/clicking on the mic icon on the address bar on top of the map does nothing. Is there something we need to do to enable voice search?

deepthought66 03-26-2018 06:34 PM

Static/whining noise
 

Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7414162)
I installed a microphone on mine (see post 125) using the USB port, and was able to install Google app (this is a huge app 120mb+) but not google assistant (not compatible with android 5.1.1). The problem I'm having is there is ample static that interferes with it. When car is idle or at a stop, its fine. Once I'm driving the static is more evident so it's difficult to get my voice command recognized by the unit. The mic I bought has great reviews so I can only assume this issue is on the unit itself.

To test static, download a voice recorded app and record while driving, idle, etc.

Have you tried using a ground loop noise isolator? Amazon has quite a few for like $10 or so.

aznmode 03-26-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7414427)
The unit have a built in mic..!!

Hi Chris, are you sure on this?? You told me the same when I asked on your YouTube channel but I got no response from the unit at all with any voice command or dictation response. So I bought a microphone. Only then it worked.

UPDATE:
Went on my sellers website (not Chris) and found this. Chris is right. But maybe it's disabled or just very very weak?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...971743e0eb.jpg

aznmode 03-26-2018 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7414438)
Have you tried using a ground loop noise isolator? Amazon has quite a few for like $10 or so.

I will try. But the sound isn't the same as ground noise or buzzing (humming) noise from let's say installing a car stereo amplifier.

Maybe I will try these ferrite ring core's first as I have several at home.

dacia 03-26-2018 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7413959)
Yup. The ECO off + VIM mod does not fit back there in the W212. When the COMAND unit is out, I tried connecting everything in serial, and the solution works. But there is no way it all fits back there. In cars other than the W212, it might, but on ours - there's just no way.

Now, I absolutely love the ECO-off feature, and Vlad (the guy who sold me the original ECO off + VIM mod on eBay) has created an OBD based ECO-off mod, which I just bought. Check it out here - https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...72.m2749.l2649 Re. auto-lock, my car does all of that - close windows, sunroof, doors incl. trunk - when I press and hold the lock button on the key fob. So while I'll miss the one-click feature, the press and hold isnt that bad IMO. Finally, re. VIM - well, the Android screen has no restrictions...so that works as well.

Hope this helps.

Thanks a lot for the reply.
Now that's a bummer. Of course I could also push and hold the key fob button to close everything but it is just easier to push it once and then just walk away and everything closes automatically.
I think this setting can be adjusted using Xentry, the same with the ECO off/on function and the VIM but we might need on-line coding access or have a, very, friendly dealer to do it.
The dealer I occasionally go to doesn't want to do it because I don't have them service my cars, I do most maintenance myself.
That OBD plug has only one function and it's much more expensive than the harness we got earlier.
I also want to have the seat belt chime disabled and that would be a different plug for another 100 bucks.

dacia 03-26-2018 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by mbdr (Post 7414603)
this radios are junk, why are people spending all this time on something that will not even last next 12 motnh

Have you even read the thread?
It's not a "radio", it's just an Android screen.

You are a miserable negative p***k and have been reported to the mods for banning.

HarLam 03-27-2018 01:04 AM

Hi guys,

So I tried again today for about an hour removing and shoving the quad connector into the back of the Comand unit multiple times, pushing it in as hard as I could, still no OEM screen showing up. I rechecked the smaller green cable coming into the screen and my other connections multiple times also without any luck. It's been frustrating getting this up and running. Thanks for all the suggestions, but it's not cooperating. I have a 2014, so do not need to solder the 12V power wire, as there isn't an adapter for the small green connector. Chris, I didn't buy the unit from you, but appreciate any of your help. I'm not sure what else to try.

On another note, I am going to pick up a conference usb microphone to see if that works for voice commands. Too bad Android 5.1.1 does not support Google now, but most add-on keyboards, like Swype, do include a mic/audio button. Most of these Android units do have a built-in mic, but they're generally not good quality. As an aside, this unit does have built in bluetooth 4.0 and I tried to connect it to the car bluetooth, although I get a message that authentication failed or something on the center dash screen near the speedometer. Not sure if this is because there was a prompt on the OEM screen to accept the connection since my OEM screen is not showing up. I have a feeling it may work and we may not need to mess with the 3.5mm or AUX connection. When I had the original screen connected, there was a setting to select bluetooth audio instead of the MMI cable, and generally these Android units are like an Android cellphone, so I don't know why it would not work. Then select bluetooth instead of AUX in the special menu? Not there yet, since I can't get the basic screen to show up. :(

Thanks for anyone reading through my frustration.

Avilly 03-27-2018 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7414764)
Hi guys,

So I tried again today for about an hour removing and shoving the quad connector into the back of the Comand unit multiple times, pushing it in as hard as I could, still no OEM screen showing up. I rechecked the smaller green cable coming into the screen and my other connections multiple times also without any luck. It's been frustrating getting this up and running. Thanks for all the suggestions, but it's not cooperating. I have a 2014, so do not need to solder the 12V power wire, as there isn't an adapter for the small green connector. Chris, I didn't buy the unit from you, but appreciate any of your help. I'm not sure what else to try.

On another note, I am going to pick up a conference usb microphone to see if that works for voice commands. Too bad Android 5.1.1 does not support Google now, but most add-on keyboards, like Swype, do include a mic/audio button. Most of these Android units do have a built-in mic, but they're generally not good quality. As an aside, this unit does have built in bluetooth 4.0 and I tried to connect it to the car bluetooth, although I get a message that authentication failed or something on the center dash screen near the speedometer. Not sure if this is because there was a prompt on the OEM screen to accept the connection since my OEM screen is not showing up. I have a feeling it may work and we may not need to mess with the 3.5mm or AUX connection. When I had the original screen connected, there was a setting to select bluetooth audio instead of the MMI cable, and generally these Android units are like an Android cellphone, so I don't know why it would not work. Then select bluetooth instead of AUX in the special menu? Not there yet, since I can't get the basic screen to show up. :(

Thanks for anyone reading through my frustration.

Mine is a 2014 also so I feel your pain. The cables that connect to the android screen, are you they “clicked” when you inserted them? This ensures thy engage the contacts. On the quad connector, you mentioned you tried “removing and shoving” it back in a few times, once I finally got mine to settle in correctly I literally couldn’t pull it back out. I tried like hell but it was beyond snug. I also tried for a few hours, keep trying...I promise you it will work and you will feel like you just built the Eiffel Tower in one day!

aznmode 03-27-2018 02:17 AM

I tried the built in mic with waze. Have to speak a little loud and it picks up what I'm saying 80% of the time even while driving. So I may just return my external mic.

aznmode 03-27-2018 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7414764)
Hi guys,

So I tried again today for about an hour removing and shoving the quad connector into the back of the Comand unit multiple times, pushing it in as hard as I could, still no OEM screen showing up. I rechecked the smaller green cable coming into the screen and my other connections multiple times also without any luck. It's been frustrating getting this up and running. Thanks for all the suggestions, but it's not cooperating. I have a 2014, so do not need to solder the 12V power wire, as there isn't an adapter for the small green connector. Chris, I didn't buy the unit from you, but appreciate any of your help. I'm not sure what else to try.

On another note, I am going to pick up a conference usb microphone to see if that works for voice commands. Too bad Android 5.1.1 does not support Google now, but most add-on keyboards, like Swype, do include a mic/audio button. Most of these Android units do have a built-in mic, but they're generally not good quality. As an aside, this unit does have built in bluetooth 4.0 and I tried to connect it to the car bluetooth, although I get a message that authentication failed or something on the center dash screen near the speedometer. Not sure if this is because there was a prompt on the OEM screen to accept the connection since my OEM screen is not showing up. I have a feeling it may work and we may not need to mess with the 3.5mm or AUX connection. When I had the original screen connected, there was a setting to select bluetooth audio instead of the MMI cable, and generally these Android units are like an Android cellphone, so I don't know why it would not work. Then select bluetooth instead of AUX in the special menu? Not there yet, since I can't get the basic screen to show up. :(

Thanks for anyone reading through my frustration.

​​​​​​
Don't you have to create a pass code on the command and confirm it on the android device? At least that how it works when connecting your phone to command.

If so, maybe use this app so you can auto fill the pass code on the android unit when it tries to connect with the command Bluetooth.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brachcon.btautopair

Chris The Swede 03-27-2018 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by mbdr (Post 7414603)
this radios are junk, why are people spending all this time on something that will not even last next 12 motnh

Yeah you really know what you are talking about here and what they want out a unit. Mercedes dont offer anything near like this so just give up your silly coments. They dont ad anything to this thread.

aznmode 03-27-2018 03:07 AM

Don't feed the troll guys.

Chris The Swede 03-27-2018 03:08 AM

For some unknown reason mic is disabled for google maps outside of China. Wich is very strange. No passcode needed for BT.

deepthought66 03-27-2018 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7414635)
Thanks a lot for the reply.
Now that's a bummer. Of course I could also push and hold the key fob button to close everything but it is just easier to push it once and then just walk away and everything closes automatically.
I think this setting can be adjusted using Xentry, the same with the ECO off/on function and the VIM but we might need on-line coding access or have a, very, friendly dealer to do it.
The dealer I occasionally go to doesn't want to do it because I don't have them service my cars, I do most maintenance myself.
That OBD plug has only one function and it's much more expensive than the harness we got earlier.
I also want to have the seat belt chime disabled and that would be a different plug for another 100 bucks.

The OBD solution apparently doesn't need to stay plugged in. Attach it, follow the instructions (on the video in the eBay listing) and it enabled the last enabled mode (ECO on or ECO off). When the process is complete, you unplug it and keep it somewhere safe ...in case you want to reverse the process. I should have mine in a few days; I'll install it and post feedback here.

As a side note, I wouldn't buy a solution that needs to stay plugged in because I have a TMobile SyncUp drive plugged-in in my OBD port for WiFi. 😁

aznmode 03-27-2018 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7415070)


The OBD solution apparently doesn't need to stay plugged in. Attach it, follow the instructions (on the video in the eBay listing) and it enabled the last enabled mode (ECO on or ECO off). When the process is complete, you unplug it and keep it somewhere safe ...in case you want to reverse the process. I should have mine in a few days; I'll install it and post feedback here.

As a side note, I wouldn't buy a solution that needs to stay plugged in because I have a TMobile SyncUp drive plugged-in in my OBD port for WiFi. 😁

I just looked up syncUP. Geeze those data rates though. Will just stick with my 10gb free Hotspot and my ob2 reader. Lol.

Avilly 03-27-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7415070)


The OBD solution apparently doesn't need to stay plugged in. Attach it, follow the instructions (on the video in the eBay listing) and it enabled the last enabled mode (ECO on or ECO off). When the process is complete, you unplug it and keep it somewhere safe ...in case you want to reverse the process. I should have mine in a few days; I'll install it and post feedback here.

As a side note, I wouldn't buy a solution that needs to stay plugged in because I have a TMobile SyncUp drive plugged-in in my OBD port for WiFi. 😁

How do you like he SyncUp from T-Mobile? I thought about it last year but it seems too pricey for my liking.

aznmode 03-27-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7414805)
For some unknown reason mic is disabled for google maps outside of China. Wich is very strange. No passcode needed for BT.

Chris. I tried it on google maps and play store and yup, pressing the mic button does nothing. Until I re-installed google app. I had it before but removed it so I never knew this was what enabled the mic to work on those other apps. Also mic button works now on swiftkey keyboard. Waze doesn't need it however.

dacia 03-27-2018 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7415070)


The OBD solution apparently doesn't need to stay plugged in. Attach it, follow the instructions (on the video in the eBay listing) and it enabled the last enabled mode (ECO on or ECO off). When the process is complete, you unplug it and keep it somewhere safe ...in case you want to reverse the process. I should have mine in a few days; I'll install it and post feedback here.

As a side note, I wouldn't buy a solution that needs to stay plugged in because I have a TMobile SyncUp drive plugged-in in my OBD port for WiFi. 😁

Yeah, I know how it works, thanks, I have checked it out already.
There is one now on e-bay for US$99 plus shipping to disable the seat belt warning chime, it works the same way as the ECO on/off plug through the OBD port.

What is the purpose of that TMobile SyncUp drive?
You can use your mobile phone as a portable hot-spot when you are in the car so what's the point of having another one?
Thanks.

Chris The Swede 03-28-2018 03:30 AM

This means you drive without seat belt?????????????

JustinJGGroves 03-28-2018 03:53 PM

Google Mic
 

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7414805)
For some unknown reason mic is disabled for google maps outside of China. Wich is very strange. No passcode needed for BT.

so how do you unlock the Mic for Google maps?

deepthought66 03-28-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7415621)
Yeah, I know how it works, thanks, I have checked it out already.
There is one now on e-bay for US$99 plus shipping to disable the seat belt warning chime, it works the same way as the ECO on/off plug through the OBD port.

What is the purpose of that TMobile SyncUp drive?
You can use your mobile phone as a portable hot-spot when you are in the car so what's the point of having another one?
Thanks.

Re. SyncUp Drive - Its true that I can use my phone as a hotspot, and that I really dont need a second device. My reasons for getting the SyncUp Drive are - (a) The WiFi hotspot turns on automatically any time I start the car up; so the screen + kids devices have connectivity automatically vs. having to turn on hotspot every single time (b) I get real-time car location and disturbance alerts, recall notices, car performance data (MPG, etc.), and more, and finally (c) thanks to my corporate plan, the SyncUp drive costs me $10 per month (includes 5GB of data). All said, some folks may still consider this excessive.....but isnt a $700 screen excessive too? LOL

deepthought66 03-28-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7414764)
Hi guys,

So I tried again today for about an hour removing and shoving the quad connector into the back of the Comand unit multiple times, pushing it in as hard as I could, still no OEM screen showing up. I rechecked the smaller green cable coming into the screen and my other connections multiple times also without any luck. It's been frustrating getting this up and running. Thanks for all the suggestions, but it's not cooperating. I have a 2014, so do not need to solder the 12V power wire, as there isn't an adapter for the small green connector. Chris, I didn't buy the unit from you, but appreciate any of your help. I'm not sure what else to try.

On another note, I am going to pick up a conference usb microphone to see if that works for voice commands. Too bad Android 5.1.1 does not support Google now, but most add-on keyboards, like Swype, do include a mic/audio button. Most of these Android units do have a built-in mic, but they're generally not good quality. As an aside, this unit does have built in bluetooth 4.0 and I tried to connect it to the car bluetooth, although I get a message that authentication failed or something on the center dash screen near the speedometer. Not sure if this is because there was a prompt on the OEM screen to accept the connection since my OEM screen is not showing up. I have a feeling it may work and we may not need to mess with the 3.5mm or AUX connection. When I had the original screen connected, there was a setting to select bluetooth audio instead of the MMI cable, and generally these Android units are like an Android cellphone, so I don't know why it would not work. Then select bluetooth instead of AUX in the special menu? Not there yet, since I can't get the basic screen to show up. :(

Thanks for anyone reading through my frustration.

Did you finally get your OEM screen to display? If not, then I have two theories - (a) user error. This is the dumber one of my two theories, and apologies in advance if I offend you in any way....but is it possible that you may have accidentally pressed the "ON" button at the center of the COMAND unit? Which as you know turns off the OEM display? If pressed, then the OEM display will not show on your Android screen. It may even be worth it to reset the COMAND using the OEM Engineering menu. (b) you have a bad LVDS cable. In one of your posts you mention that your OEM screen works when reconnected. So if I am right, the video feed to the OEM screen comes via that blue round connector. The LVDS cable connects to that blue round connector....and it also has the USB port (that you pull into your glove box or whatever). If the video works all the way to the OEM blue round connector...then the LVDS cable/connector that you got with your Android screen is the likely culprit. Thoughts?

Chris The Swede 03-28-2018 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7416202)
so how do you unlock the Mic for Google maps?

Another member wrote: For the built in mic to work on google maps, play store, or any app where you have the mic icon (not needed for Waze), you will need to install the google app. This also will make the voice button work on swiftkey keyboard.

JustinJGGroves 03-28-2018 04:46 PM

Phone blue tooth Android/ DVD
 
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7c35279d47.jpg
Ok so still trying to figure out how to activate the Mic for Google maps IE navi. So the new android unit doesn't have a read text like the command? Urgh would think it would...

JustinJGGroves 03-28-2018 04:49 PM

DVD
 
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...77b540313a.jpg

Thanks in advance..
So I was screwing around to see if a blue ray DVD wouuld work and it does. Lol but is there a way around watching it thru the unit and not the command? Cause this screen is so cut off with the dummy split.

JustinJGGroves 03-28-2018 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7416247)
Another member wrote: For the built in mic to work on google maps, play store, or any app where you have the mic icon (not needed for Waze), you will need to install the google app. This also will make the voice button work on swiftkey keyboard.

awesome will try

Chris The Swede 03-28-2018 05:16 PM

Let me know how it goes.

JustinJGGroves 03-28-2018 05:18 PM

Installing Google app
 

Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7416286)
Let me know how it goes.

worked. Once you install the Google app it automatically installs the audio speaker Mic looking app. 🙌🙌🙌

Chris The Swede 03-28-2018 05:22 PM

Nice to hear it works.

aznmode 03-28-2018 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7416252)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7c35279d47.jpg
Ok so still trying to figure out how to activate the Mic for Google maps IE navi. So the new android unit doesn't have a read text like the command? Urgh would think it would...

Disregard. You already found the answer. Didn't read further down before I tried to answer. That's what happens when I use my phone to view posts lol.

aznmode 03-29-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7416254)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...77b540313a.jpg

Thanks in advance..
So I was screwing around to see if a blue ray DVD wouuld work and it does. Lol but is there a way around watching it thru the unit and not the command? Cause this screen is so cut off with the dummy split.

OEM window cannot be expanded. Only other way is if you rip the video into an mp4 then use a thumb drive so you can watch it on the android side to take up the full screen.

JustinJGGroves 03-29-2018 05:37 PM

Static
 

Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7417066)
OEM window cannot be expanded. Only other way is if you rip the video into an mp4 then use a thumb drive so you can watch it on the android side to take up the full screen.

Ever since I connected the navi antenna I'e been experiencing some static switching from YouTube to blue tooth etc. Anyone experience this? Is there something I can do to get the clarity back?

aznmode 03-29-2018 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7417257)
Ever since I connected the navi antenna I'e been experiencing some static switching from YouTube to blue tooth etc. Anyone experience this? Is there something I can do to get the clarity back?

The GPS (square) antenna? Can't see how GPS would cause static so that is weird.

JustinJGGroves 03-29-2018 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7417281)
The GPS (square) antenna? Can't see how GPS would cause static so that is weird.

maybe a loose connection somewhere?

deepthought66 03-29-2018 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by JustinJGGroves (Post 7417295)
maybe a loose connection somewhere?

I had that happen initially when my audio out for Android was connected via the 3.5mm to Aux. Like you, I heard static when switching over from Aux to BT (i.e. BT audio direct from phone to the COMAND head-unit). Tried a bunch of things, but nothing worked. The settings that finally worked for me were - (a) I connected audio from the screen to the head unit via BT (and changed the related audio out in the screen's settings to BT vs Aux) AND (b) lowering volume on the screen to 5 or 6 (vs. higher). And yes, accomplishing (a) was a pain in the butt. I had to go through 'Factory Pattern' (the one with the 111111 pass key) into the tablet settings, turn on the BT and then rush back to the "FM" to get to the stock screen, search for BT devices, find "Android BT", and finally pair the devices. Took me a few tries....now I have audio via BT AND steering wheel audio controls (back, next, etc.) via BT. All is finally well.

deepthought66 03-29-2018 10:10 PM

In other news - I can also confirm that installing the Google app (from the Play store) has given me voice controls. I also installed the Google Keyboard - which is SO much better than the crappy keyboard that came with the screen (Pinyin?). Simple Pie worked when I first installed it (so I could jump quickly to 'recent apps' and even close them). But when I came back to my car in the evening - after leaving it parked all day - Simple Pie wasn't enabled when I turned the car back on. Such a bummer. I also tried Tasker - to auto launch Spotify on Wi-Fi connect. But that too had been turned off by the time I came back to my car :(

aznmode 03-30-2018 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7417418)
In other news - I can also confirm that installing the Google app (from the Play store) has given me voice controls. I also installed the Google Keyboard - which is SO much better than the crappy keyboard that came with the screen (Pinyin?). Simple Pie worked when I first installed it (so I could jump quickly to 'recent apps' and even close them). But when I came back to my car in the evening - after leaving it parked all day - Simple Pie wasn't enabled when I turned the car back on. Such a bummer. I also tried Tasker - to auto launch Spotify on Wi-Fi connect. But that too had been turned off by the time I came back to my car :(

Use LMT pie 2.7 on XDA. It will stay enabled after restart.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho....php?t=1330150

Chris The Swede 03-30-2018 02:50 AM

Man you have good ideas and solutions for the unit...

aznmode 03-30-2018 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7417538)
Man you have good ideas and solutions for the unit...

Haha Thanks Chris if you meant that comment towards me. Just paying it forward. There's a lot of great helpful people on this site.

deepthought66 03-31-2018 12:31 AM

Carplay
 
So....I got this Carplay dongle off Amazon USB AutoPlay Dongle Android Auto for PUMPKIN Car Stereos, iPhone and Android Phone, Free 8GB SD Card Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NZ581V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_o1WVAbNK094YY

It was delivered today and I just installed it. I can't get it to use the mic (I get kicked into app settings). But other than that, everything seems to work perfectly; touchscreen, maps, Spotify, Pandora, etc with full steering wheel controls. I will experiment more next week (traveling over the next couple of days) and will post more as I discover more. For now, I just thought I'd let everyone know that there is a path to Carplay on the W212, albeit an expensive one. 😁

Vladds 03-31-2018 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7418324)
So....I got this Carplay dongle off Amazon USB AutoPlay Dongle Android Auto for PUMPKIN Car Stereos, iPhone and Android Phone, Free 8GB SD Card Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NZ581V..._o1WVAbNK094YY

It was delivered today and I just installed it. I can't get it to use the mic (I get kicked into app settings). But other than that, everything seems to work perfectly; touchscreen, maps, Spotify, Pandora, etc with full steering wheel controls. I will experiment more next week (traveling over the next couple of days) and will post more as I discover more. For now, I just thought I'd let everyone know that there is a path to Carplay on the W212, albeit an expensive one. 😁

So the way this stands now is either, say carplay, or dashcam, because there's one USB port.

HarLam 03-31-2018 05:45 PM

Hi guys,

I haven't had time to work on the unit for a few days but still stuck with getting the OEM Comand to come up. I emailed my seller and he says that it is the unit, and I may need a replacement. They had a few listings, 2013-2014 and a 2015 listing. My question is if there is a real difference in the internals in a unit for the 2013 model and 2015 model (mine is a 2014). I'm just trying to figure out if I should just return the unit since I'm not getting anywhere with what I have currently. Maybe Chris (or anyone else) could help me with this. Thanks.

Good to see the Bluetooth audio works, so I won't have to make all the connections to get the AUX -> MMI set up.

Ungarisch 03-31-2018 05:48 PM

I cannot find anywhere to connect this spare plug from my sceen, the metal plugs connects to the metal conversion module, but where does this plug need to be connected to? Do I just leave it disconnected?

EDIT; forgot to mention that everything works as inteneded without that plug being plugged in. Screen works (after connecting red cable from metal converter box to yellow accessory power cable off the loom), command knob works, audio switching works but that's another issue, see next post.

My car the the rear entertainment package, could that be the plug that brings audio from the rear DVD player to the main speakers?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...52d96aae7b.png

Ungarisch 03-31-2018 06:27 PM

So, I have a very unique issue when it comes to automatic Audio Swithching. I have probably one of 5 E-Classes out there that was spec'd out to have a rear enterainment & screen package. So when the audio switching happens, instead of switching to AUX, it switches to REAR option on the Comand's audio dropdown menu because REAR is the last possible selection. When REAR is selected, that means that whatever is in the DVD player in the rear seat bottom, is what's playing through the speakers.

I'm gonna have to play with it to figure out to to get around this. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7a33a0060b.png

Ungarisch 03-31-2018 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7418324)
So....I got this Carplay dongle off Amazon USB AutoPlay Dongle Android Auto for PUMPKIN Car Stereos, iPhone and Android Phone, Free 8GB SD Card Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NZ581V..._o1WVAbNK094YY

It was delivered today and I just installed it. I can't get it to use the mic (I get kicked into app settings). But other than that, everything seems to work perfectly; touchscreen, maps, Spotify, Pandora, etc with full steering wheel controls. I will experiment more next week (traveling over the next couple of days) and will post more as I discover more. For now, I just thought I'd let everyone know that there is a path to Carplay on the W212, albeit an expensive one. 😁

Are you using it with an iPhone or Android?

I bough a similar adapter from Chris made by CarLife( same as the head unit), I turned on USB debuggin on my BlackBerry KeyOne (Android 7.1.1), but when I pug it in it's just stuck at the "connect your phone" screen. I'll try it with my dad's iPhone later today to see if it works.

Mikeki7 03-31-2018 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7418795)
So, I have a very unique issue when it comes to automatic Audio Swithching. I have probably one of 5 E-Classes out there that was spec'd out to have a rear enterainment & screen package. So when the audio switching happens, instead of switching to AUX, it switches to REAR option on the Comand's audio dropdown menu because REAR is the last possible selection. When REAR is selected, that means that whatever is in the DVD player in the rear seat bottom, is what's playing through the speakers.

I'm gonna have to play with it to figure out to to get around this.

You will just have to manually switch to aux. Half of the time my android unit wont properly switch to aux and it will end up in bluetooth or some other menu in the stock comand. Very clever though to have it try to navigate the stock unit though not perfect.

Ungarisch 03-31-2018 10:10 PM

word of advice to all who going to do the install, drop your glove box, its only (7) T20 screws and it slides forward.

Before I dropped the glove box it seemed impossible to put the the Comand unit back in its place. Also, I was super skeched out that I was going to kink or break the fiber optics cable.

After dropping the glow box you have TONS of rooms to route the harness, fuse box and extra leeds in the gap to the right of the Comand support cage. Also you're going to have to drill a hole in your glovebox anyways to pass the USB and headphone jack through.

EDIT: another tip, if your wood trim is not trashed like mine, it's probably a good idea to blue-tape all of your ashtray wood trim pieces because you will scratch it while wrestling with the Comand unit.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fa0c536f0b.png

Chris The Swede 04-01-2018 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7418837)
Are you using it with an iPhone or Android?

I bough a similar adapter from Chris made by CarLife( same as the head unit), I turned on USB debuggin on my BlackBerry KeyOne (Android 7.1.1), but when I pug it in it's just stuck at the "connect your phone" screen. I'll try it with my dad's iPhone later today to see if it works.

You used the corect apk file for the dongle?

Chris The Swede 04-01-2018 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7418772)
I cannot find anywhere to connect this spare plug from my sceen, the metal plugs connects to the metal conversion module, but where does this plug need to be connected to? Do I just leave it disconnected?

EDIT; forgot to mention that everything works as inteneded without that plug being plugged in. Screen works (after connecting red cable from metal converter box to yellow accessory power cable off the loom), command knob works, audio switching works but that's another issue, see next post.

My car the the rear entertainment package, could that be the plug that brings audio from the rear DVD player to the main speakers?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...52d96aae7b.png

You dont use that anymore.

HarLam 04-01-2018 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7416242)
Did you finally get your OEM screen to display? If not, then I have two theories - (a) user error. This is the dumber one of my two theories, and apologies in advance if I offend you in any way....but is it possible that you may have accidentally pressed the "ON" button at the center of the COMAND unit? Which as you know turns off the OEM display? If pressed, then the OEM display will not show on your Android screen. It may even be worth it to reset the COMAND using the OEM Engineering menu. (b) you have a bad LVDS cable. In one of your posts you mention that your OEM screen works when reconnected. So if I am right, the video feed to the OEM screen comes via that blue round connector. The LVDS cable connects to that blue round connector....and it also has the USB port (that you pull into your glove box or whatever). If the video works all the way to the OEM blue round connector...then the LVDS cable/connector that you got with your Android screen is the likely culprit. Thoughts?

Thanks for the ideas. Still haven't got the OEM screen to show up. No offense taken, and I made sure Comand was on since I had it on Radio and could hear it playing as well as see that the button lights on the Comand unit were on. It may be the LVDS cable, but I'm not sure what else could be the issue. My vendor did send me the wrong Quad cable to begin with, so I'm trying to work it out with him. I tried to reconnect the original screen and it's baffling how easily the OEM quad connector slips into the Comand unit and how much wrangling is needed with these aftermarket cables. I did confirm, as you probably already know, that to get bluetooth audio, you do have to confirm the passkey through the OEM screen, or it won't connect. I had hooked up the OEM screen and the Android screen at the same time, and was able to make a bluetooth connection. It still won't auto-switch for some reason.

Ungarisch 04-01-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7419051)
You used the corect apk file for the dongle?

Is there a different APK for AndroindAuto than for CarPlay? It was already pre installed on the android unit, but because it didnt work I uninstalled it and downloaded it from the URL on the box http://121.40.123.198:8080/autobox/autoplaybox.apk

If I connect an Adroid to it this is what I get, iPhone connects just fine.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2d5d2fdf5c.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2926ff4762.png

Ungarisch 04-01-2018 03:39 PM

I've downloaded a different, older version (12.20.2017 vs. 02.06.2018) and while at least the option for AndroidAUTO shows up, my phone still does not connect.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1c641a2b28.png

deepthought66 04-01-2018 07:32 PM

Autolaunch options?
 
I use an old iPhone 5c for Carplay, not Android. On a related note, does anyone know how to make a particular app autolaunch on screen start? What I'm trying to solve for is - start up car, screen goes on, and an app of my choice autolaunches. Maybe Spotify, or Carplay or whatever. I tried the Google Play version of Tasker but that didn't work. Anyone know of any other method to enable this behavior?

dacia 04-02-2018 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7418770)
Hi guys,

I haven't had time to work on the unit for a few days but still stuck with getting the OEM Comand to come up. I emailed my seller and he says that it is the unit, and I may need a replacement. They had a few listings, 2013-2014 and a 2015 listing. My question is if there is a real difference in the internals in a unit for the 2013 model and 2015 model (mine is a 2014). I'm just trying to figure out if I should just return the unit since I'm not getting anywhere with what I have currently. Maybe Chris (or anyone else) could help me with this. Thanks.

Good to see the Bluetooth audio works, so I won't have to make all the connections to get the AUX -> MMI set up.

Are you asking about the COMAND version or the Android screen?
The difference between the 2013-14 COMAND and the mid-2015 is that the earlier cars came with COMAND version NTG4.7 while the 2015 is NTG5s1 (5.1).
The main harness connector is the same but the smaller ones are a bit different, and the NTG5S1 comes with wifi and the front panel looks slightly different.
If your car is 2014 it has the NTG4.7 COMAND.





https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...955a5bdf80.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b24ae6b602.jpg
Did you specify the COMAND version you have to the Chinese seller when you ordered the Android unit?
The picture with all the arrows is the NTG 4.7.

dacia 04-02-2018 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7413959)
Yup. The ECO off + VIM mod does not fit back there in the W212. When the COMAND unit is out, I tried connecting everything in serial, and the solution works. But there is no way it all fits back there. In cars other than the W212, it might, but on ours - there's just no way.
.

Have you seen the below post by Ungarisch regarding tucking the cables behind the COMAND?

Originally Posted by Ungarisch
word of advice to all who going to do the install, drop your glove box, its only (7) T20 screws and it slides forward.

Before I dropped the glove box it seemed impossible to put the the Comand unit back in its place. Also, I was super skeched out that I was going to kink or break the fiber optics cable.

After dropping the glow box you have TONS of rooms to route the harness, fuse box and extra leeds in the gap to the right of the Comand support cage. Also you're going to have to drill a hole in your glovebox anyways to pass the USB and headphone jack through.


Perhaps there is a way to keep the ECO Off/On harness afterall. :-)

deepthought66 04-02-2018 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7419580)
Have you seen the below post by Ungarisch regarding tucking the cables behind the COMAND?



Perhaps there is a way to keep the ECO Off/On harness afterall. :-)

Very interesting. I'm going to have to try that this weekend.
Thanks!

Ungarisch 04-02-2018 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7420257)
Very interesting. I'm going to have to try that this weekend.
Thanks!

this area is completely empty, you can almost fit a 2-liter in there, maybe, probably not. But a VIM module, most definitely. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b8ec73ece5.png

aznmode 04-02-2018 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7419445)
I use an old iPhone 5c for Carplay, not Android. On a related note, does anyone know how to make a particular app autolaunch on screen start? What I'm trying to solve for is - start up car, screen goes on, and an app of my choice autolaunches. Maybe Spotify, or Carplay or whatever. I tried the Google Play version of Tasker but that didn't work. Anyone know of any other method to enable this behavior?



I use this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...llReviews=true

To auto launch this app (it takes time if you have other things trying to launch on boot like LMT Pie)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....motorcar.free

Paid version (not sure entirely the difference)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ncher.motorcar

The Car Launcher is my go to app now as I can customize it better to have my specific set of app list. If I need to go back to the standard android one I just press home button. Using LMT PIE I can easily go back to Car Launcher.

Here is why I like Car launcher (Sorry for the blurry pics):
1. Built in voice search button
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e52397b0ac.jpg

2. Choose any player installed and control play pause forward back
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f0ec90c696.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...399c87d84b.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f627caf0b8.jpg


3. Create custom app list
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d84a623e56.jpg
4. Knob control

5. MPH. Minor but still a plus (far right of screen)

aznmode 04-02-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7420274)
this area is completely empty, you can almost fit a 2-liter in there, maybe, probably not. But a VIM module, most definitely. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b8ec73ece5.png

Thanks. I will have to see if this is the same for w204 as I am still having issue with OEM screen not showing up. I think i really need to completely free up that block connector to fix my issue.

HarLam 04-02-2018 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7419571)
Are you asking about the COMAND version or the Android screen?
The difference between the 2013-14 COMAND and the mid-2015 is that the earlier cars came with COMAND version NTG4.7 while the 2015 is NTG5s1 (5.1).
The main harness connector is the same but the smaller ones are a bit different, and the NTG5S1 comes with wifi and the front panel looks slightly different.
If your car is 2014 it has the NTG4.7 COMAND.





https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...955a5bdf80.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b24ae6b602.jpg
Did you specify the COMAND version you have to the Chinese seller when you ordered the Android unit?
The picture with all the arrows is the NTG 4.7.

OK, that makes sense. The back of my Comand is just like the NTG 4.7 above. I had gotten the unit for the 2015, which is the likely the 5.1. That may be the issue. Thanks.

Chris The Swede 04-03-2018 02:59 AM

OEM screen not showing have nothing to do with this...Its only settings or AB conector. Or if Comand 4 also silver box.

Ferris_E550 04-04-2018 08:08 AM

Chris. My E550 is equipped with night vision. Do you know if that feature will work with the w212 Comand 10,25"?

Thanks.

Chris The Swede 04-04-2018 10:27 AM

Of course. You just take up the OEM screen..You realy ever use that option???

aznmode 04-05-2018 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7420274)
this area is completely empty, you can almost fit a 2-liter in there, maybe, probably not. But a VIM module, most definitely. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b8ec73ece5.png

I was going to do this to my pre FL W204 to try and fix my command screen not showing on the screen intermittently, but decided to go another route. I'm not sure this can apply to w212 however. Maybe one of you guys with a w212 who is still having trouble getting the command to go back into place to try it.


Heisenberg5070 04-08-2018 03:48 PM

Just got word that a newer version with newer firmware is being produced. Got a guy on the inside asking for everyone to to note and take pics of their bugs. Post em here and I'll compile a pdf to send them. We get a discount on the unit for a group buy

aznmode 04-08-2018 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7425187)
Just got word that a newer version with newer firmware is being produced. Got a guy on the inside asking for everyone to to note and take pics of their bugs. Post em here and I'll compile a pdf to send them. We get a discount on the unit for a group buy

Nice! Hopefully it's not the android 6 with 2gb ram I see on aliexpress. The interface on it is junk. But here are my issues.

1. Auto sound switching doesn't always work. Only when the unit first turns on.

2. Bluetooth music streaming from my android phone doesn't work.

3. Mirroring on my android either USB or wifi doesn't work.

Heisenberg5070 04-08-2018 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode
Nice! Hopefully it's not the android 6 with 2gb ram I see on aliexpress. The interface on it is junk. But here are my issues.

1. Auto sound switching doesn't always work. Only when the unit first turns on.

2. Bluetooth music streaming from my android phone doesn't work.

3. Mirroring on my android either USB or wifi doesn't work.

It's going to be android 7

Ungarisch 04-08-2018 04:27 PM

I disagree on the interface, I hope they keep it as is, looking like factory instead of some android launcher, but I see some improvements that can be made.

Namely;

-Let us re-arrange the icons
-Let us hide unused icons
-Enable the ability to auto-launch one app on start
-Fix Android Auto not working with their own (Carlife-Mall) Carplay/Android dongle adapter
-Fix the stretched out aspect ratio on CarPlay
-Make the internal battery/capacitor slightly bigger so that the unit only shuts off after 5 minutes after car, instead of 15 seconds now.
-Ability to change units from metric to US/imperial
-Fix the displayed car from always being an A-Class
-Ability to put Spotify on the "Home Screen" instead of "Apps" sub-menu
-Ability to delete useless "Carlife" app from home screen
-Make CarPlay dongle charge faster than the current 400mah, currently it drains battery faster than it charges
-The unit knows when headlights are on, it should be able to auto-dim screen when it sees headlight are on, and full brightness when heads are off

These would be nice, but not necessary:

-Make Dashcam input digital (HDMI instead of RCA) since nearly all dashcams have digital outs not analog
-Sim card to accept US (T-Mobuile/AT&T) GSM LTE bands.

aznmode 04-08-2018 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7425205)
It's going to be android 7

Actually forgot there is a 3rd one that's android 7. But only for 2014 and 2017 w204. I emailed the seller a week ago for w204 pre face-lift availability but haven't gotten back to me.

10.25" Android 7.1 Car Multimedia Player for Mercedes Benz C CALSS 2014-2017 with GPS Navigation DVD USB AUX WiFi 4Core+RAM 2GB

Heisenberg5070 04-08-2018 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode
Actually forgot there is a 3rd one that's android 7. But only for 2014 and 2017 w204. I emailed the seller a week ago for w204 pre face-lift availability but haven't gotten back to me.

10.25" Android 7.1 Car Multimedia Player for Mercedes Benz C CALSS 2014-2017 with GPS Navigation DVD USB AUX WiFi 4Core+RAM 2GB

They're doing it for w212

Ungarisch 04-08-2018 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7425227)
Actually forgot there is a 3rd one that's android 7. But only for 2014 and 2017 w204. I emailed the seller a week ago for w204 pre face-lift availability but haven't gotten back to me.

10.25" Android 7.1 Car Multimedia Player for Mercedes Benz C CALSS 2014-2017 with GPS Navigation DVD USB AUX WiFi 4Core+RAM 2GB

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-2...832808299.html

What exactly does "Android 7" do for our units? I'm not aware of any car related app that wont run because our units are only 5.1. The Android 7 unit listed above still has identical guts to ours with the 4 core Mediatek SoC. I'm guessing that all the 2GB means is that instead of 1GB out of the internal 16GB being allocated for the OS, this unit has 2GB allocated. While that's nice, I don't think even 2GB is enough and you'll still need to use Apps2SD

This seems more of a 0.1 step upgrade compared to our's, not to mention the UI looks like a cheap Chinese MIUI tablet. Until they revise the SoC, and also keep the Mercedes looking UI, I don't see this as a worthwhile upgrade to what we got.

Chris The Swede 04-09-2018 05:38 AM

That is a horrible version with no can bus functions or oem car integration and BIG android boxes to fit somewhere. Dont go there..Trust me. IF there is a better version that realy is better I will have it...When its ready..

Chris The Swede 04-09-2018 05:42 AM

There is a new version of "our" unit in about a month..Needs alot more testing before release.

huewish 04-09-2018 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7425593)
There is a new version of "our" unit in about a month..Needs alot more testing before release.

Chris, I've heard nothing but good things about you, and I would be interested in buying the new version when it's released. Can you please give us any spec changes that are confirmed in the new version? Also, would you be willing to give a discount for a group buy as well? Thanks!

Chris The Swede 04-09-2018 10:00 AM

No specs so far. All I know it has a motion sensetive interface that just looks super sillt to me. Sitting an waveing to the screen. Dont see the point.

Gee_115 04-09-2018 04:25 PM

Any CLS C218 installs here?

Chris The Swede 04-09-2018 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7426135)
Any CLS C218 installs here?

Plenty...Just look aroundfor both info and pics.

aznmode 04-09-2018 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7425250)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-2...832808299.html

What exactly does "Android 7" do for our units? I'm not aware of any car related app that wont run because our units are only 5.1. The Android 7 unit listed above still has identical guts to ours with the 4 core Mediatek SoC. I'm guessing that all the 2GB means is that instead of 1GB out of the internal 16GB being allocated for the OS, this unit has 2GB allocated. While that's nice, I don't think even 2GB is enough and you'll still need to use Apps2SD

This seems more of a 0.1 step upgrade compared to our's, not to mention the UI looks like a cheap Chinese MIUI tablet. Until they revise the SoC, and also keep the Mercedes looking UI, I don't see this as a worthwhile upgrade to what we got.

Android 6.0 and up supports google assistant which means voice command without screen interaction. Just say "ok google" and say get directions etc, or open an app, or play a song by voice. This will make for a safer driving experience. :zoom:

Also 2gb or RAM will allow more apps to run at the same time. I notice from time to time, apps will either just won't open or apps will reload and not go back to where I left it because I have maps on, with iheart radio, and my home launcher. Again requiring more interaction with the screen to get back to where I was. :stick:

deepthought66 04-10-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7425224)
I disagree on the interface, I hope they keep it as is, looking like factory instead of some android launcher, but I see some improvements that can be made.

Namely;

-Let us re-arrange the icons
-Let us hide unused icons
-Enable the ability to auto-launch one app on start
-Fix Android Auto not working with their own (Carlife-Mall) Carplay/Android dongle adapter
-Fix the stretched out aspect ratio on CarPlay
-Make the internal battery/capacitor slightly bigger so that the unit only shuts off after 5 minutes after car, instead of 15 seconds now.
-Ability to change units from metric to US/imperial
-Fix the displayed car from always being an A-Class
-Ability to put Spotify on the "Home Screen" instead of "Apps" sub-menu
-Ability to delete useless "Carlife" app from home screen
-Make CarPlay dongle charge faster than the current 400mah, currently it drains battery faster than it charges
-The unit knows when headlights are on, it should be able to auto-dim screen when it sees headlight are on, and full brightness when heads are off

These would be nice, but not necessary:

-Make Dashcam input digital (HDMI instead of RCA) since nearly all dashcams have digital outs not analog
-Sim card to accept US (T-Mobuile/AT&T) GSM LTE bands.

This is a phenomenal list. I second every one of these. Plus would love to have the ability to switch songs etc. using steering wheel controls within Carplay / Android Auto. On that note, why have a Carplay / Android Auto dongle at all? Can this functionality not be built into the screen itself? One less thing to attach in the glove box. And what the heck is a lamplet anyway? LOL

Chris The Swede 04-11-2018 03:01 AM

"-The unit knows when headlights are on, it should be able to auto-dim screen when it sees headlight are on, and full brightness when heads are off"
Good idea but dont work since in many countries like mine included they are on 24/7. Its the law here to be as vissible as possible no matter what condition it is.

dsenela 04-11-2018 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7425224)
I disagree on the interface, I hope they keep it as is, looking like factory instead of some android launcher, but I see some improvements that can be made.

Namely;

-Let us re-arrange the icons
-Let us hide unused icons
-Enable the ability to auto-launch one app on start
-Fix Android Auto not working with their own (Carlife-Mall) Carplay/Android dongle adapter
-Fix the stretched out aspect ratio on CarPlay
-Make the internal battery/capacitor slightly bigger so that the unit only shuts off after 5 minutes after car, instead of 15 seconds now.
-Ability to change units from metric to US/imperial
-Fix the displayed car from always being an A-Class
-Ability to put Spotify on the "Home Screen" instead of "Apps" sub-menu
-Ability to delete useless "Carlife" app from home screen
-Make CarPlay dongle charge faster than the current 400mah, currently it drains battery faster than it charges
-The unit knows when headlights are on, it should be able to auto-dim screen when it sees headlight are on, and full brightness when heads are off

These would be nice, but not necessary:

-Make Dashcam input digital (HDMI instead of RCA) since nearly all dashcams have digital outs not analog
-Sim card to accept US (T-Mobuile/AT&T) GSM LTE bands.

Great list also would be helpful if 'miles to empty' was displayed on the home screen vehicle details, and possibly TPMS info? I have managed to get a 4G signal detected and registered on the unit by using a google project fi data-only sim card, however I cannot seem to get internet connectivity even after configuring the correct APN information.

h23pasadena 04-13-2018 01:27 AM

Chris
i was planing to buy the android 10.5 this weekend
you mentioned theres a new version unit in a month should i wait?

Chris The Swede 04-13-2018 03:30 AM

Yes..If you can..since 1 month can always be extended.

Klaus60 04-14-2018 04:47 AM

@ Chris
Do know is there also a new version for W207 coming ??

skylimit 04-14-2018 04:49 AM

bought my from aliexpress 3 weeks ago, everything worked well until yesterday. Now the touch screen does not responding anymore. I can use the command wheel and everything works fine from there. Someone who has the same problem?

Chris The Swede 04-14-2018 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by skylimit (Post 7430114)
bought my from aliexpress 3 weeks ago, everything worked well until yesterday. Now the touch screen does not responding anymore. I can use the command wheel and everything works fine from there. Someone who has the same problem?

There you go..Hope you have good Aliexpress waranty service then.. ;)

Chris The Swede 04-14-2018 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Klaus60 (Post 7430113)
@ Chris
Do know is there also a new version for W207 coming ??

Its the same as w212.

skylimit 04-14-2018 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7430116)
There you go..Hope you have good Aliexpress waranty service then.. ;)

I have to send it back to receive a new one. Think it's the same way you go when there is something wrong with your product.

Chris The Swede 04-14-2018 06:40 AM

Yes indeed as long as we cant fix it remotely. Have you tried factory reset?

skylimit 04-14-2018 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7430126)
Yes indeed as long as we cant fix it remotely. Have you tried factory reset?

Chris, Yes i did, Bout did not help

aznmode 04-14-2018 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by skylimit (Post 7430114)
bought my from aliexpress 3 weeks ago, everything worked well until yesterday. Now the touch screen does not responding anymore. I can use the command wheel and everything works fine from there. Someone who has the same problem?

Sounds like a loose connection inside. Could be an easy fix if you know how to take it apart.

skylimit 04-15-2018 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7430537)
Sounds like a loose connection inside. Could be an easy fix if you know how to take it apart.

Yeah, think you're righ.drove on a bumpy road the same day the screen stopped.Found two screws on the back of the screen.hard to believe the two small screws that hold the screen and frame together.Has the search online but found nothing.

skylimit 04-15-2018 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by skylimit (Post 7430759)
Yeah, think you're right Chris.drove on a bumpy road the same day the screen stopped.Found two screws on the back of the screen.hard to believe the two small screws that hold the screen and frame together.Has the search online but found nothing.

aznmode you were right. The contact on the main board was bad, little pressure on it so it was back to life again. Thank you for your advice.

bigjule 04-20-2018 03:16 AM

I'm def interested on getting one of these units for my 2015 e400.. BUT I have a few concerns.. one of them is the quality of the unit . . I had a Similar unit a few yrs back on my bmw it was made by dynavin. I had nothing but troubles with it.. also how long of a warranty comes with the unit? .

bigjule 04-20-2018 03:18 AM

Also how much for a unit for 2015 e400 us model .. I have 360 camera ,rear camera, and Navi.. thanks

Chris The Swede 04-20-2018 03:20 AM

Quality is very good...Sold alot of them and had like one complaint above here and it was fixed. Shoot me an email..

rahail1000 04-23-2018 08:23 AM

I have an issue with the 10,25" large screen for W212 from 2010. when using android, I only have voice on front left speaker. Has anyone experienced similar issue? I am using AUX MMI cable (which came along with the unit) and at one point I had voice on all speakers and without changing anything it is back to one speaker (left front) and nothing I can do to make it play on all speakers. When using OEM all speakers works.

Also, I have an issue with boot, sometime I have the black screen (with the car logo on lane) on the right side and I need to touch the screen before the Mercedes Benz startup logo starts.

Please help, thanks a lot.

bbbbbbb 04-23-2018 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by rahail1000 (Post 7437016)
I have an issue with the 10,25" large screen for W212 from 2010. when using android, I only have voice on front left speaker. Has anyone experienced similar issue? I am using AUX MMI cable (which came along with the unit) and at one point I had voice on all speakers and without changing anything it is back to one speaker (left front) and nothing I can do to make it play on all speakers. When using OEM all speakers works.

Also, I have an issue with boot, sometime I have the black screen (with the car logo on lane) on the right side and I need to touch the screen before the Mercedes Benz startup logo starts.

Please help, thanks a lot.


You're not the only one. I personally don't have the unit, but have spoken to another person which also got the unit and was experiencing the same issue. Plus a couple of other issues. I think it has to do with how the unit is connected up, but it's only my guess. Have not heard of any solution for the issue, though.

You might want to reach out to Chris about this?

B.

rahail1000 04-23-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by bbbbbbb (Post 7437098)
You're not the only one. I personally don't have the unit, but have spoken to another person which also got the unit and was experiencing the same issue. Plus a couple of other issues. I think it has to do with how the unit is connected up, but it's only my guess. Have not heard of any solution for the issue, though.

You might want to reach out to Chris about this?

B.

Thanks for your reply.

Chris, do you know of this problem perhaps? It appears that you are really experienced on these matters.. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Mikeki7 04-23-2018 03:54 PM

I had the same problem and it was the rca to aux cable, worked at first but once installed only sound from one channel. Bought a higher quality cable on amazon and everything worked great after that. This is on my 2012 cls.

rahail1000 04-23-2018 04:20 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...69866f970d.jpg

black screen on bootup, only option is to touch the screen then the android starts up booting properly.
Thanks, that is a very good idea. I will buy a new MMI to 3,5 AUX cable and try it out.

I also have 2 x more issues..

1 - Black screen on boot up and nothing happens until I touch the screen then the startup logo "Mercedes Benz" starts and android system starts. This is only sometime, but at least once a day (see attached picture).
2 - I have installed IGO, but I am not able tyo go to navigation menu and change the application to IGO, IGO is not even visible there and I am not able to remove the tick from google maps.

Anyone has any idea for this?

Many thanks in advanced.

Chris The Swede 04-23-2018 04:23 PM

Please let us know how that works.
Tried a factory reset?
You cant install your own iGo to have it on the meny. You must use the one included specially made for the unit.

Mikeki7 04-23-2018 04:37 PM

My issue was not the mmi to aux cable but the red and white rca to aux cable behind the unit.

bbbbbbb 04-23-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7437434)
I had the same problem and it was the rca to aux cable, worked at first but once installed only sound from one channel. Bought a higher quality cable on amazon and everything worked great after that. This is on my 2012 cls.

Hi Mike,
Could you please share a link to where and what you specifically purchased from Amazon? This way everyone knows what to buy and perhaps Chris could start including this cable with his units he sells?

thx.

B.

Mikeki7 04-23-2018 07:14 PM

I used this cable:
It was longer than I needed but no big deal, have the extra length in the center storage area.

deepthought66 04-25-2018 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7425224)
I disagree on the interface, I hope they keep it as is, looking like factory instead of some android launcher, but I see some improvements that can be made.

Namely;

-Let us re-arrange the icons
-Let us hide unused icons
-Enable the ability to auto-launch one app on start
-Fix Android Auto not working with their own (Carlife-Mall) Carplay/Android dongle adapter
-Fix the stretched out aspect ratio on CarPlay
-Make the internal battery/capacitor slightly bigger so that the unit only shuts off after 5 minutes after car, instead of 15 seconds now.
-Ability to change units from metric to US/imperial
-Fix the displayed car from always being an A-Class
-Ability to put Spotify on the "Home Screen" instead of "Apps" sub-menu
-Ability to delete useless "Carlife" app from home screen
-Make CarPlay dongle charge faster than the current 400mah, currently it drains battery faster than it charges
-The unit knows when headlights are on, it should be able to auto-dim screen when it sees headlight are on, and full brightness when heads are off

These would be nice, but not necessary:

-Make Dashcam input digital (HDMI instead of RCA) since nearly all dashcams have digital outs not analog
-Sim card to accept US (T-Mobuile/AT&T) GSM LTE bands.

A couple more adds:
- Newer version of Android so we can install Android Auto
- Build in Carplay dongle hardware into the screen
- Ability to switch songs etc. using steering wheel controls within Carplay / Android Auto (screen can connect to COMAND via BT to do this. On this note, ensure that BT starts up ASAP on system boot. Now it takes at least 2-3 minutes).
- Ability to edit some of the text (e.g.: Lamplet, Handbrake Pull Up, km/h)
- Ability to see what's playing right now (within an audio app). Perhaps provide this information at the bottom of the screen....where AC information is displayed today? Or an option to pick between 'what's playing' and 'AC' in that area?
- Broadcast ID3 tags / music info to COMAND. Even 3-4 year old smartphones can send ID3 tags (song, artist, album info) to COMAND over BT. With this screen I only see "Audio Streaming" showing on my center console (and in the stock screen via FM/AM)
- Ability to turn-off automatic audio source switching. In its current form its more of a pain than a convenience.
- Make GPS more reliable. Google Maps SUCKS on this screen.
- Change whatever settings on the OS to ensure that the screen recognizes that we are in the country that the screen is currently being used in (for example - Google searches take me to Google.hk. I have also encountered night mode being turned on in Google Maps....in broad daylight, ugh!)
- Google Assistant!!!
- Finally (for now) - is there a way to create a "premium" version of this screen? With internals from this decade? The exterior of this screen is top-class. How about putting a snapdragon processor, additional memory, newer version of Android, etc. on the insides? Charge more for the "upgraded" SKU. Folks are already dropping over $600 for a screen that has the internals from a tablet made in 2012. I'm sure they wont mind paying a little more for something from 2017/18.

skylimit 04-25-2018 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by rahail1000 (Post 7437016)
I have an issue with the 10,25" large screen for W212 from 2010. when using android, I only have voice on front left speaker. Has anyone experienced similar issue? I am using AUX MMI cable (which came along with the unit) and at one point I had voice on all speakers and without changing anything it is back to one speaker (left front) and nothing I can do to make it play on all speakers. When using OEM all speakers works.

Also, I have an issue with boot, sometime I have the black screen (with the car logo on lane) on the right side and I need to touch the screen before the Mercedes Benz startup logo starts.

Please help, thanks a lot.

Had the same problem, it's AUX cord.Very poor connection between AUX and power cord.I took off the isolation on the power cord and then I once saw that one of the wires from AUX was off.It takes some time and disassemble everything but easy fix

ninjatech1969 05-01-2018 03:01 AM

Hello boys and girls,

I have a dumb question . I have a 2014 E350 on the CKM site is this what i buy


After facelift 2011b-2014
After facelift 2011b-2014
603 USD603 USD

Chris The Swede 05-01-2018 03:47 AM

Are you even looking at w212???? It does not give you that options on W212.

ninjatech1969 05-01-2018 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7443681)
Are you even looking at w212???? It does not give you that options on W212.

I FOUND IT THANKS Chris ...

Eric Hyh 05-03-2018 11:37 AM

Hi All,
Juat managed to install a similar unit and all’s working fine except GPS. For some strange reason, it is not picking up any satellites (I was outdoor with clear skies). I download GPS Status app and Topntp to attempt to reset the gps but still no joy :(

i tested with 2 gps antenna and can confirm that the gps tool are able to detect the gps sensor were active.

I also downloaded Waze from App Store and tested Google maps and both are not working.

Anyone had similar experiences and suggestion ;)

AfterMarket 05-09-2018 05:04 PM

I have been looking into purchasing one of these for my w212, but had a few questions that I could not seem to find answers from other posts:

1. Mirroring. It apparently works well with iPhone. Has anyone been able to get any android phone to mirror?

2. Fahrenheit. Has anyone been able to update (or hack) the unit to show Fahrenheit and MPH? Other labels (e.g. lamplet open, etc.)?

3a. 360 camera. It appears to supports aftermarket reverse or 360 cameras. Has anyone actually tried this successfully?

3b. Camera trigger. Many aftermarket camera/dvr setups have a camera trigger wire that will change the output view (e.g. turn signal or putting the vehicle in reverse) of the “head unit” (in this case, the screen itself would be the “head unit” switching to the camera input). This unit is already switching the screen for the stock camera for reverse, but is there a wire labeled to trigger this for aftermarket cameras? Or does someone know which wire/pin in the screen harness is doing this so I can tap it for this function?

4. New Version. Above posts imply a new improved version may be imminent. Does it address any of the above? Do we have an ETA?

DColon614 05-09-2018 10:28 PM

Hello all, I have posted an in depth video review of this head unit for the R172 (SLK) on my YouTube channel. The reason I posted this review is because after a month of having the unit I realized that it has a significant amount of problems that other reviewers on YouTube have not mentioned or discussed.

This isn't a horrible unit but it does have it's flaws and limitations so please check this out BEFORE you purchase. I hope this helps!

BTW: There is a newer version of this unit that should be released soon, I imagine it will resolve the problems with this one. Once that one is released I will review that one on m channel as well.


DColon614 05-09-2018 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7450404)
I have been looking into purchasing one of these for my w212, but had a few questions that I could not seem to find answers from other posts:

1. Mirroring. It apparently works well with iPhone. Has anyone been able to get any android phone to mirror?

2. Fahrenheit. Has anyone been able to update (or hack) the unit to show Fahrenheit and MPH? Other labels (e.g. lamplet open, etc.)?

3a. 360 camera. It appears to supports aftermarket reverse or 360 cameras. Has anyone actually tried this successfully?

3b. Camera trigger. Many aftermarket camera/dvr setups have a camera trigger wire that will change the output view (e.g. turn signal or putting the vehicle in reverse) of the “head unit” (in this case, the screen itself would be the “head unit” switching to the camera input). This unit is already switching the screen for the stock camera for reverse, but is there a wire labeled to trigger this for aftermarket cameras? Or does someone know which wire/pin in the screen harness is doing this so I can tap it for this function?

4. New Version. Above posts imply a new improved version may be imminent. Does it address any of the above? Do we have an ETA?

I have an aftermarket 360 camera connected to mine, please see my YouTube video on it:

I also have a review on the unit itself:

DColon614 05-09-2018 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Hyh (Post 7445540)
Hi All,
Juat managed to install a similar unit and all’s working fine except GPS. For some strange reason, it is not picking up any satellites (I was outdoor with clear skies). I download GPS Status app and Topntp to attempt to reset the gps but still no joy :(

i tested with 2 gps antenna and can confirm that the gps tool are able to detect the gps sensor were active.

I also downloaded Waze from App Store and tested Google maps and both are not working.

Anyone had similar experiences and suggestion ;)

Make sure your GPS antenna is on the dash with a clear view of the sky. When I installed mine I had heard online that it could be tucked away and that is not true.

DColon614 05-09-2018 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7409997)
I purchased a video interface from eBay. Purchased an Apple tv3 and also got a modded power supply for it so that it works off of usb power. I can send you all the details later on.

I actually did the same thing but I had the AppleTv modded so it would get power via HDMI

So were you able to use the video interface in conjunction with the new screen? I don't plan on reconnecting my AppleTV to it but I would like to connect my 360 surround view camera system via HDMI rather than RCA.

AfterMarket 05-11-2018 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7450404)
I have been looking into purchasing one of these for my w212, but had a few questions that I could not seem to find answers from other posts:

1. Mirroring. It apparently works well with iPhone. Has anyone been able to get any android phone to mirror?

2. Fahrenheit. Has anyone been able to update (or hack) the unit to show Fahrenheit and MPH? Other labels (e.g. lamplet open, etc.)?

3a. 360 camera. It appears to supports aftermarket reverse or 360 cameras. Has anyone actually tried this successfully?

3b. Camera trigger. Many aftermarket camera/dvr setups have a camera trigger wire that will change the output view (e.g. turn signal or putting the vehicle in reverse) of the “head unit” (in this case, the screen itself would be the “head unit” switching to the camera input). This unit is already switching the screen for the stock camera for reverse, but is there a wire labeled to trigger this for aftermarket cameras? Or does someone know which wire/pin in the screen harness is doing this so I can tap it for this function?

4. New Version. Above posts imply a new improved version may be imminent. Does it address any of the above? Do we have an ETA?

David,
Thanks for the responses. It is great to see the 360 camera attached to one of these screens in action. I also appreciate your candid review of the good and the bad. It would appear that the answers are:

1. No one has been able to get android to mirror; only iPhone.

2. Metric units cannot be hacked to Imperial. The other labels are also set and no one has been able to update/hack them to read better.

3a. Awesome to see that this actually works and looks good full screen. It will look a little different on the 10.25 screen due to the aspect ratio. Your 9” screen has a more traditional ratio. Would love to see what is on the edges of the 10.25 – probably just black screen (or maybe it can be stretched to fit, but probably would not look good).

3b. I was unable to see this in action in your videos. It was good to see that you could switch to Camera view and the 360 camera was functional. The camera system that you had was triggering views when you used your turn signals and reverse. You could also switch views with the remote.

However, I did not see the *Android* screen switch with these triggers on your videos. For example, if you are using Google maps on the screen and you put the car in reverse – does the screen switch to your 360 camera view? If you are using Google Maps (driving down the road) and you use your turn signal - does the Android screen switch to your 360 camera?

4. Because of the negatives you mentioned in your video, I will probably wait for the new version to see if it addresses 1 & 2. Let’s hope that it won’t be a long wait! I am still interested in whether 3b works in the current version (with the assumption that if it works now, it will work in the new version).

Thanks again for your responses/videos!

aznmode 05-11-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Hyh (Post 7445540)
Hi All,
Juat managed to install a similar unit and all’s working fine except GPS. For some strange reason, it is not picking up any satellites (I was outdoor with clear skies). I download GPS Status app and Topntp to attempt to reset the gps but still no joy :(

i tested with 2 gps antenna and can confirm that the gps tool are able to detect the gps sensor were active.

I also downloaded Waze from App Store and tested Google maps and both are not working.

Anyone had similar experiences and suggestion ;)

On Google maps, can you try pressing the location button. Right above the "Go" button. It should turn blue.

Lastly, on the screen, make sure you have the antenna plugged into the left side connector if facing the screen.

Gee_115 05-11-2018 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7451774)
4. Because of the negatives you mentioned in your video, I will probably wait for the new version to see if it addresses 1 & 2. Let’s hope that it won’t be a long wait! I am still interested in whether 3b works in the current version (with the assumption that if it works now, it will work in the new version).

Thanks again for your responses/videos!

Per Chris_the_Swede: The new version should be available in about a week and a half from today but it will be more expensive. These are already too expensive for a simple screen, might just not be cost effective anymore.

CKMCardesign New version in about 2 weeks with Android 6 and bigger HW. Very good review..

CKMCardesign 4 days ago (edited)
Agree totaly.. And damn expensive as well and now they want to raise the damn price. These are very Specific and not massproduced like other normal 2 din units are so more expensive to make though.And the only ones that truly integrates with the car system..It will be 2+32+android6. Android 7 is stopped by overseas google market somehow.. On the other hand most are happy with that old one anyway..

AfterMarket 05-11-2018 03:51 PM

Thanks for the tip, Gee!

If i were a betting man... I would say that this is probably the hardware that is coming (just instead of Audi, they have customized it for Mercedes):

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-2...828876446.html
https://rsnav.com/products/10-25-and...symphony-radio

Note this link:
https://rsnav.com/products/screen-mirroring-app-license
"Please purchase this license if you want a Smartphone Screen Mirroring (Miracast, AirPlay) software on your RS Brand Android GPS devices (Do not work with original Audi navigation systems).
**This license cannot be applied to already shipped devices. We need to install the license file and it's hard to do the license activation over the internet. ** "

I wonder if this is why the mirroring has not worked on Android for the current version?

Chris The Swede 05-12-2018 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7451866)
Per Chris_the_Swede: The new version should be available in about a week and a half from today but it will be more expensive. These are already too expensive for a simple screen, might just not be cost effective anymore.

CKMCardesign New version in about 2 weeks with Android 6 and bigger HW. Very good review..

CKMCardesign 4 days ago (edited)
Agree totaly.. And damn expensive as well and now they want to raise the damn price. These are very Specific and not massproduced like other normal 2 din units are so more expensive to make though.And the only ones that truly integrates with the car system..It will be 2+32+android6. Android 7 is stopped by overseas google market somehow.. On the other hand most are happy with that old one anyway..

Corect... We are tesing it right now. Hopefully the new sw is all good and new unit ready to ship end of this month.

Gee_115 05-12-2018 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7451956)
Thanks for the tip, Gee!

If i were a betting man... I would say that this is probably the hardware that is coming (just instead of Audi, they have customized it for Mercedes):

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-2...828876446.html
https://rsnav.com/products/10-25-and...symphony-radio

Note this link:
https://rsnav.com/products/screen-mirroring-app-license
"Please purchase this license if you want a Smartphone Screen Mirroring (Miracast, AirPlay) software on your RS Brand Android GPS devices (Do not work with original Audi navigation systems).
**This license cannot be applied to already shipped devices. We need to install the license file and it's hard to do the license activation over the internet. ** "

I wonder if this is why the mirroring has not worked on Android for the current version?


I suspect you may be correct. If that's the case I don't see why it should cost more, should be the same price as the Audi. I was hoping for at least a 4G ram.

Chris The Swede 05-13-2018 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7451956)
Thanks for the tip, Gee!

If i were a betting man... I would say that this is probably the hardware that is coming (just instead of Audi, they have customized it for Mercedes):

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-2...828876446.html
https://rsnav.com/products/10-25-and...symphony-radio

Note this link:
https://rsnav.com/products/screen-mirroring-app-license
"Please purchase this license if you want a Smartphone Screen Mirroring (Miracast, AirPlay) software on your RS Brand Android GPS devices (Do not work with original Audi navigation systems).
**This license cannot be applied to already shipped devices. We need to install the license file and it's hard to do the license activation over the internet. ** "

I wonder if this is why the mirroring has not worked on Android for the current version?

NO its not...Its a totaly new model and NO darn big android boxes to hide...

DColon614 05-13-2018 06:42 AM

What concerns me about purchasing the new screen is the lack of updates for the current screen. The mounting brackets and screen for the SLK were just released a little over a month ago and now there's a new one coming out? It really makes me wonder if this will be a similar situation where there are promises of updates but nothing happens.

dsenela 05-13-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7452898)
What concerns me about purchasing the new screen is the lack of updates for the current screen. The mounting brackets and screen for the SLK were just released a little over a month ago and now there's a new one coming out? It really makes me wonder if this will be a similar situation where there are promises of updates but nothing happens.

My thoughts exactly, and why I will not be buying the new unit especially if it is more expensive. The current unit is already way too expensive. 90% of issues plaguing this unit is software related and can easily be fixed via updates. There is no monetary incentive for the manufacturers in China to 'work' on updates when they could be selling new units with supposedly new features. The only hope is for the modding community to come up with mods that could somehow fix some of the current problems and improve functionality.. The unit is built to tightly integrate with our vehicles, and unfortunately the modding community base of people with resources to tinker with these units is very low. The hardware itself is really not bad, we just need a way to breath new life into it through better software.

Chris The Swede 05-13-2018 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7452898)
What concerns me about purchasing the new screen is the lack of updates for the current screen. The mounting brackets and screen for the SLK were just released a little over a month ago and now there's a new one coming out? It really makes me wonder if this will be a similar situation where there are promises of updates but nothing happens.

Well thats not corect anywhere...The units been on the market for like 6 months and we had many updates for it during this time as promised. Many thins have been bettered..Not all of course. Its just the bracket for SLK thast is new and that one is for the new screen as well. And trhe new one is the 1025..Not the 9. That has no new one yet.

Avilly 05-14-2018 12:05 AM

Guys, the rattling on my unit is driving me crazy. Anybody have any solutions for this? I Gets. Lot of loud vibrations driving over normal
city streets.

Chris The Swede 05-14-2018 02:47 AM

OK?? I have both units and never had a rattle...

bigjule 05-15-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7450602)
Hello all, I have posted an in depth video review of this head unit for the R172 (SLK) on my YouTube channel. The reason I posted this review is because after a month of having the unit I realized that it has a significant amount of problems that other reviewers on YouTube have not mentioned or discussed.

This isn't a horrible unit but it does have it's flaws and limitations so please check this out BEFORE you purchase. I hope this helps!

BTW: There is a newer version of this unit that should be released soon, I imagine it will resolve the problems with this one. Once that one is released I will review that one on m channel as well.
.
https://youtu.be/mJTlD0b24Cg

Nice review bro 👍

DColon614 05-15-2018 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by bigjule (Post 7454531)
Nice review bro 👍

Thank you, I hope it was helpful!

DColon614 05-15-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7453106)
Well thats not corect anywhere...The units been on the market for like 6 months and we had many updates for it during this time as promised. Many thins have been bettered..Not all of course. Its just the bracket for SLK thast is new and that one is for the new screen as well. And trhe new one is the 1025..Not the 9. That has no new one yet.

Chris I’m genuinely confused here, what I stated was my concerns regarding the new unit in comparison to my current experience with this one. Can you explain what is incorrect?

Chris The Swede 05-15-2018 05:27 PM

You say it was just released and a new one comes. Not corect.

skylimit 05-15-2018 05:36 PM

Hey guys,
I had a unit from AliExpress. Had some issues with touch screen. I sent it in return and got the money back. Now I have bought a new display with a supplier from my country. (Norway) Thought it was a lot easier compared to warranty and any update. When I got the package so I was surprised, device has 2 USB interface, Android 6 Quad-core 2GB frame 32GB disk In 1024x600 pixels and DAB +.google map drives like a dream.I have not tried it a lot but there's a video on youtube that I post down here.

Chris The Swede 05-15-2018 05:46 PM

That is just the old version with the BIG bulky box for the android...Not the new version...

Ungarisch 05-15-2018 05:47 PM

it cannot be 1024x600 because that would make it 16:9 aspect ratio. It still looks to be 1280x480 or 16:6 aspect ration to me, which I guess was never an issue.

DColon614 05-15-2018 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7454765)
You say it was just released and a new one comes. Not corect.



What I said was “The mounting brackets and screen for the SLK were just released a little over a month ago and now there's a new one coming out?”, how is this incorrect when it just became available for the SLK in March 2018?

bigjule 05-16-2018 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7454579)


Thank you, I hope it was helpful!

Yes u did .. I think I'm gonna wait for all the bugs to be worked out ..especially the one we're they can't get the Android phone to mirror the system

Chris The Swede 05-16-2018 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7454834)




What I said was “The mounting brackets and screen for the SLK were just released a little over a month ago and now there's a new one coming out?”, how is this incorrect when it just became available for the SLK in March 2018?

Yes the bracket is just released. Not the screen. Thats whats not corect. Screen is the same for all 9" cars...

skylimit 05-16-2018 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7454786)
That is just the old version with the BIG bulky box for the android...Not the new version...

I dont know what you are talking about Chris, There was not any BIG bulky box in the package i received, Just screen and cables + usb dab unit and antena.

Kamen Doubleu 05-16-2018 12:06 PM

Does anyone know how to fix the pad always searching for the audio sources when I want to play some video or YouTube ? And update the firmware on our own?

djrabbi 05-16-2018 01:11 PM

Does anyone know if you can download Waze on this headunit since it is android based

AfterMarket 05-16-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by DColon614 (Post 7450608)
I have an aftermarket 360 camera connected to mine, please see my YouTube video on it: https://youtu.be/VSJUzqOS-dc

I also have a review on the unit itself: https://youtu.be/mJTlD0b24Cg


David,
You mentioned annoyance at the car on your screen is not your car.
check out:
time: 17:00

AfterMarket 05-16-2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7455427)
Does anyone know if you can download Waze on this headunit since it is android based

Yes, according to this:

Time: 8:45

Gee_115 05-16-2018 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7454786)
That is just the old version with the BIG bulky box for the android...Not the new version...

I checked out the unit, it does have big bulky boxes, even has a speaker. Definitely not an alternative. Also, at $930 without VAT, is just simply ridiculous.

ItchyTasty 05-17-2018 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7455111)
Yes the bracket is just released. Not the screen. Thats whats not corect. Screen is the same for all 9" cars...

Chris, will the upcoming new version be compatible with the W205?

Nicolas Farinas 05-17-2018 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7455111)
Yes the bracket is just released. Not the screen. Thats whats not corect. Screen is the same for all 9" cars...


Any idea of the price on the new, updated unit? Group.buy discount? I'd most definitely be interested...

Mikeki7 05-17-2018 07:52 PM

Video is up for the new unit. Not sure if its worth upgrading yet. Curious to know if you have to change out the existing wiring harness if you are upgrading from the old unit.


Gee_115 05-17-2018 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7456670)
Video is up for the new unit. Not sure if its worth upgrading yet. Curious to know if you have to change out the existing wiring harness if you are upgrading from the old unit.

I didn't see anything significant from the old screen, except android 6 and 2G RAM. Where are the new features? I still saw KPH. Split screen would be great. Very good though that they are seeking suggestions before finalizing.

djrabbi 05-18-2018 01:25 PM

Should I just update OEM navi to 2017 or get this unit? How easy is the install? I plan on someone else installing it but don't want to pay same amount of the unit to have it installed. My Lexus GS had a 11" screen so going to this small one will be weird...

aznmode 05-18-2018 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7451866)
Per Chris_the_Swede: The new version should be available in about a week and a half from today but it will be more expensive. These are already too expensive for a simple screen, might just not be cost effective anymore.

CKMCardesign New version in about 2 weeks with Android 6 and bigger HW. Very good review..

CKMCardesign 4 days ago (edited)
Agree totaly.. And damn expensive as well and now they want to raise the damn price. These are very Specific and not massproduced like other normal 2 din units are so more expensive to make though.And the only ones that truly integrates with the car system..It will be 2+32+android6. Android 7 is stopped by overseas google market somehow.. On the other hand most are happy with that old one anyway..

Android 7 would've been great as it supports split screen. Ah well....

aznmode 05-18-2018 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by skylimit (Post 7455252)
I dont know what you are talking about Chris, There was not any BIG bulky box in the package i received, Just screen and cables + usb dab unit and antena.

Is this from an online store?

Ungarisch 05-18-2018 03:05 PM

I finally ditched Google Maps and switched to Waze. Wow! what a difference! Google maps is a bloaded buggy app meant for $1000 super-phones. Its even laggy on my 2017 Android phone. The only reason I've kept Google Maps thus far is because i really liked the feature where you search for directions on a PC and it shows up on your phone/nav unit, but that feature hasn't worked reliably on my phone for like a year and never on the nav unit, so no point in keeping G Maps anymore...

Waze is soooooo much snappier, everything happens in 1/4 of the time compared to GMaps, and navigation is so much simpler, enter in address and it navigates, versus GMaps you tap the address bar, freezes, enter in address, freezes, select location, freezes, brings up directions instead of starting navigation, tap direction, freezes, tap navigate, freezes... you get the idea...

You can't uninstall google maps, only the updated for it, but if you go into the Android settings app menu, you can disable it so the icons disappear from the app drawer at least

aznmode 05-18-2018 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeki7 (Post 7456670)
Video is up for the new unit. Not sure if its worth upgrading yet. Curious to know if you have to change out the existing wiring harness if you are upgrading from the old unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8fJpocPo8

Looks like it runs smoother than what I have now. That 2gb RAM and 32gb storage will help quite a bit. I'm not sure I'm a fan of the additional color on the icons though. I've requested to have MPH and Farenheit toggle as well as being able to rearrange apps in the APPS.

aznmode 05-18-2018 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7457361)
I finally ditched Google Maps and switched to Waze. Wow! what a difference! Google maps is a bloaded buggy app meant for $1000 super-phones. Its even laggy on my 2017 Android phone. The only reason I've kept Google Maps thus far is because i really liked the feature where you search for directions on a PC and it shows up on your phone/nav unit, but that feature hasn't worked reliably on my phone for like a year and never on the nav unit, so no point in keeping G Maps anymore...

Waze is soooooo much snappier, everything happens in 1/4 of the time compared to GMaps, and navigation is so much simpler, enter in address and it navigates, versus GMaps you tap the address bar, freezes, enter in address, freezes, select location, freezes, brings up directions instead of starting navigation, tap direction, freezes, tap navigate, freezes... you get the idea...

You can't uninstall google maps, only the updated for it, but if you go into the Android settings app menu, you can disable it so the icons disappear from the app drawer at least

It's about time. I ditched google maps along time ago..even on my phone. I do wish waze looked less cartoonish though.

Chris The Swede 05-19-2018 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7456069)
Chris, will the upcoming new version be compatible with the W205?

Of course.

Chris The Swede 05-19-2018 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7457348)
Android 7 would've been great as it supports split screen. Ah well....

Android 7 is stopped for overseas by google..

skylimit 05-19-2018 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7457356)
Is this from an online store?

Yes it is, Had one from Aliexpress first but I delivered it back.Bought this from a store in Norway.They are incredibly good with support and updates.user manual and update is open to everyone on the home page.Believe me or not but my device has 2gb Ram and 32gb flash, usb hub for 4 usb devices and android 6. There are only screens and cables and usb Dab.

ItchyTasty 05-19-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7457754)
Android 7 is stopped for overseas by google..


If we can't upgrade this beyond Android 6, that might be a dealbreaker. No split screen, and the screen will eventually become obsolete as new apps will eventually come out that wont support an older version of android

ItchyTasty 05-19-2018 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by skylimit (Post 7457850)
Yes it is, Had one from Aliexpress first but I delivered it back.Bought this from a store in Norway.They are incredibly good with support and updates.user manual and update is open to everyone on the home page.Believe me or not but my device has 2gb Ram and 32gb flash, usb hub for 4 usb devices and android 6. There are only screens and cables and usb Dab.

care to post some pics or a video of yours?

skylimit 05-19-2018 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7458046)
care to post some pics or a video of yours?

Having plans to make a video, I will post it sometime next week.

djrabbi 05-20-2018 02:52 PM

I decided to just update the MB maps instead of getting this unit. I feel like I won't utilize all it's features and local shop quoted me $530 to install it... Project will cost me over $1,000. Unless someone in the Charlotte area is willing to help install!

Gee_115 05-20-2018 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7458581)
I decided to just update the MB maps instead of getting this unit. I feel like I won't utilize all it's features and local shop quoted me $530 to install it... Project will cost me over $1,000. Unless someone in the Charlotte area is willing to help install!

Come on! You don't need anyone to install this for you, just watch the videos and save yourself money if you decide to get it.

djrabbi 05-20-2018 04:46 PM

Lol well I had fried my NTG1 on my CLS55 swapping it to the European version so I learned my lesson! lol

bbbbbbb 05-20-2018 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7458581)
I decided to just update the MB maps instead of getting this unit. I feel like I won't utilize all it's features and local shop quoted me $530 to install it... Project will cost me over $1,000. Unless someone in the Charlotte area is willing to help install!


There are how to videos on YouTube to show you how to install these units. It's really not that hard. I'm waiting for the upgraded version with android 7 before I buy.

Chris The Swede 05-21-2018 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by bbbbbbb (Post 7458671)
There are how to videos on YouTube to show you how to install these units. It's really not that hard. I'm waiting for the upgraded version with android 7 before I buy.

android 7 wont happen..You have to wait for 8 then for like a couple of years.

bigjule 05-21-2018 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7458898)
android 7 wont happen..You have to wait for 8 then for like a couple of years.

Y is that ? I'm waiting for a bug free unit .. one with all the lil issues to b ironed out

ItchyTasty 05-21-2018 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7458898)
android 7 wont happen..You have to wait for 8 then for like a couple of years.

But there are already screens with Android 7...

https://www.google.com/search?ei=91M...w205+android+7

Gee_115 05-21-2018 07:28 PM

I found this on ebay just browsing. Why is this sophisticated thing cheaper than the Android screen.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-1-Vertical-Screen-Tesla-style-Android-GPS-Navigation-for-Mercedes-Benz-2016/323249657369?hash=item4b432e5619:g:MykAAOSwAAFa8~u-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlowmON_fOI

Chris The Swede 05-22-2018 04:26 AM

Screen is far from same hardware quality...

Chris The Swede 05-22-2018 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by bigjule (Post 7458959)
Y is that ? I'm waiting for a bug free unit .. one with all the lil issues to b ironed out

Something with googl stopping it for overseas export....

400ixl 05-22-2018 09:18 AM

There is no export embargo on the Android (7) Nougat open source code (as in the open project that everyone bar Google's approved suppliers use). There may be other reasons why they are choosing not to create a version based on that version of the open source software, but its nothing to do with an export restrictions.

ItchyTasty 05-22-2018 06:15 PM

Like i said, there are already Android 7 screens. See my link above. So why can they do it, but these guys can't?

bigjule 05-22-2018 09:19 PM

I have a cousin in schenzen china .. hes there for a month ..I know alot of these units come from there..well atleast the ones from eBay ...I'm gonna see if he can track a unit down for me

mycroftxiii 05-23-2018 02:53 AM

Any chance that this could be fitted into a W211? :lockd:

Chris The Swede 05-23-2018 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by mycroftxiii (Post 7460562)
Any chance that this could be fitted into a W211? :lockd:

How??? You have the screen on the comand in old ones.

mycroftxiii 05-23-2018 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7460583)
How??? You have the screen on the comand in old ones.

Ergo the question.

I talked to some of the sellers around my area but they doesn't show much interest, so just kind of wondering if there's anyone here trying to fit this into a W211/W219.

Coming from a BMW background (the W219 is actually my first Mercedes), I kinda have the perception that everything can be retrofitted. Like an NBT Evo in a E90. It just wasn't meant to be there. They cut the dashboard to make space for it.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sDom1C3EXHc/maxresdefault.jpg

Chris The Swede 05-23-2018 04:29 AM


mycroftxiii 05-23-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7460596)

Thanks for the recommendation. I knew that there are two options for the W211, one with buttons, and one with full screen like this.

None of them can be compared to the W212 head unit though. It just exudes an air of modernity.

The connection of the two systems shows that they use different cables, one with NTG 1's standard, the other with NTG 4's. So it's a really long shot to be honest.

deepthought66 05-23-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by dsenela (Post 7452920)
My thoughts exactly, and why I will not be buying the new unit especially if it is more expensive. The current unit is already way too expensive. 90% of issues plaguing this unit is software related and can easily be fixed via updates. There is no monetary incentive for the manufacturers in China to 'work' on updates when they could be selling new units with supposedly new features. The only hope is for the modding community to come up with mods that could somehow fix some of the current problems and improve functionality.. The unit is built to tightly integrate with our vehicles, and unfortunately the modding community base of people with resources to tinker with these units is very low. The hardware itself is really not bad, we just need a way to breath new life into it through better software.

Have any updates to the original firmware (on the original units) been released? Or are we still stuck with the original firmware that the unit shipped with.
I completely agree with the quote above.... so much potential for improvement ... but I have no idea if anyone will even bother tinkering with this. Maybe we get a gofundme campaign going....LOL

Chris The Swede 05-24-2018 03:20 AM

Many updates done. What are you looking for in a update?

ItchyTasty 05-24-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7461475)
Many updates done. What are you looking for in a update?

Still waiting on a response on why other screens have Android 7, but these can't have them...

Chris The Swede 05-25-2018 04:39 AM

The old ones can never have it since it cant handle it. There will never be a Android update for them. Just feature updates.

Fuchstiger 05-25-2018 09:17 AM

And where can I get some of These Feature Updates?
On my headunit there is no possibility to control the brightness for example.

ItchyTasty 05-25-2018 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7462290)
The old ones can never have it since it cant handle it. There will never be a Android update for them. Just feature updates.

Ok so the old ones can't have Android 7. Why can't this new one? If there are current screens with A7, and this one isn't out yet, it seems like it would be an easy call.

aznmode 05-25-2018 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Fuchstiger (Post 7462360)
And where can I get some of These Feature Updates?
On my headunit there is no possibility to control the brightness for example.

Technically there is a brightness adjustment but it's such a minimal change you can only notice it if you do the adjustment at night. It's like a 10% increase in brightness. Possibly that was done to prevent the screen from dying too fast?

ahegazi 05-26-2018 03:57 AM

Thank You aznmode
 

Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7402854)
So I bought a bluetooth OBDII scanner that plugs into my OBDII. This way I can see information such as RPM, speed, boost, temp etc on the screen. Except I can't get it to pair. When I go to my bluetooth setting, I see the OBDII on the list but when I try to pair, it won't pop up the screen to where I can enter the pairing code. Do you guys know of any bluetooth OBDII devices that do not require a pairing code?

This is the one I bought
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


UPDATE: Solved my issue
Found this app to pre program pin code for bluetooth connections. Well worth the $1.99 price tag for what I'm trying to accomplish.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...con.btautopair

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f69b5609b6.jpg

I purchased Torque Pro from the play store and here is a screen shot.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...g.prowl.torque

Not sure I like the interface of Torque Pro so I will keep searching for one that I like.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...438adaa469.jpg

I've been searching for a solution and downloaded a couple pf apps for the same purpose that didn't work. With your suggestion I finally managed to pair my OBDII with the screen

Gee_115 05-26-2018 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7459721)
Screen is far from same hardware quality...

Excuses excuses! I take it you have one of those new screens? Otherwise how can you attest to the inferior hardware?

ItchyTasty 05-26-2018 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7463014)
Excuses excuses! I take it you have one of those new screens? Otherwise how can you attest to the inferior hardware?

I mean dude resells Chinese sceens on his website. He has a vested interest in bashing the competition.

aznmode 05-26-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by ahegazi (Post 7462965)
I've been searching for a solution and downloaded a couple pf apps for the same purpose that didn't work. With your suggestion I finally managed to pair my OBDII with the screen

Glad I could help!

Chris The Swede 05-28-2018 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by Fuchstiger (Post 7462360)
And where can I get some of These Feature Updates?
On my headunit there is no possibility to control the brightness for example.

That we have an update for. My customers get it from me.

Chris The Swede 05-28-2018 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7463014)
Excuses excuses! I take it you have one of those new screens? Otherwise how can you attest to the inferior hardware?

What???? And You clearly know what you are talking about!! New unit have "bigger" of all..So it can run the 6 smothely.

dimmi 05-29-2018 04:53 PM

Waze / Spotify Integration
 
Has anyone managed to get Waze and Spotify to work integrated i..e so you can change tracks in Waze ?

Ungarisch 05-29-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by dimmi (Post 7465395)
Has anyone managed to get Waze and Spotify to work integrated i..e so you can change tracks in Waze ?

no, you cannot get it to work, there is a glitch is this particular head unit that is preventing the integration from working, sadly.

Avilly 05-29-2018 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7464048)
That we have an update for. My customers get it from me.

Chris, where can I get the update? I purchased my unit from you as well.

Chris The Swede 05-30-2018 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7465690)


Chris, where can I get the update? I purchased my unit from you as well.

chris@mbsca.com

oldgag 05-30-2018 12:51 PM

Screen
 

Originally Posted by c240DUDE (Post 7344666)
Do you happen to have a step-by-step procedure? I'm having trouble with a few things. I think I did everything correct, however, my stock COMAND is not displaying, my knob doesn't work with the new interface, my sound is not working even when I connected it through the aux connector. Chris sent me a PowerPoint of what I needed to do and yet again, it still doesn't work for me. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

What does your wife think about your Knob not working?.

al_bundy23 05-30-2018 03:46 PM

No Audio From Android Touchscreen
 
Hi guys, I was hoping someone could help me with some troubleshooting. I can not get audio from the Touchscreen unit. I have plugged in the RCA cables to the Aux input under the armrest and changed the connection to Aux in the hidden menu and Aux on the Comand unit but still no sound. I have tried playing mp3's from the USB, Youtube app, Google Maps app and Bluetooth Streaming but I only get static and no sound . I can confirm I get sound from all my sources on the Comand unit.

Thanks in advance.

Tvremote 06-02-2018 03:53 PM

Could anyone help me, recently purchased one of these finally got the screen installed today or so i tried. Like an idiot i've stumbled on this page (chris + others) after iv'e bought it and i know customer service is going to be a pain! Wish i went through chris or similar vendors you guys have.

basically the screen won't turn on at all when key goes in, and im 95% sure wires are all hooked up correct. can anyone tell me which wires i'll need to connect as a bare minimum to get something displayed on the screen?
I dont know which is the power cable for instance, if i plug that one in should i effectively be able to see something on the screen ( mercedes logo) anything! My car is an A class 2013 Model, running NTG 4.5 (NOT Command)

Just need help identifying i guess, any help! ive had to leave it out, unconnected

Kind regards,

Chris The Swede 06-03-2018 04:39 AM

Never heard of. Should power up right away after adding it to stock conector.

Tvremote 06-03-2018 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7469134)
Never heard of. Should power up right away after adding it to stock conector.

is that the bigger sized one or the smaller square connector?

Gee_115 06-03-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7469153)
is that the bigger sized one or the smaller square connector?

Why don't you just post pics? You said NTG4.5 not COMAND, that is COMAND. Maybe you have audio20?

cocobeex 06-03-2018 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7468801)
Could anyone help me, recently purchased one of these finally got the screen installed today or so i tried. Like an idiot i've stumbled on this page (chris + others) after iv'e bought it and i know customer service is going to be a pain! Wish i went through chris or similar vendors you guys have.

basically the screen won't turn on at all when key goes in, and im 95% sure wires are all hooked up correct. can anyone tell me which wires i'll need to connect as a bare minimum to get something displayed on the screen?
I dont know which is the power cable for instance, if i plug that one in should i effectively be able to see something on the screen ( mercedes logo) anything! My car is an A class 2013 Model, running NTG 4.5 (NOT Command)

Just need help identifying i guess, any help! ive had to leave it out, unconnected

Kind regards,

Or maybe its a defective unit ? DOA ?

guillermogc 06-04-2018 12:39 AM

Does anyone know where the language files are located?

I would love to be able to edit a few things.

First of all, that "pay attention to the around!" on the backup camera. It makes me crazy.

Thanks!!

Chris The Swede 06-04-2018 03:11 AM

Its not just to change..Kind of hard to do..

Tvremote 06-04-2018 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by cocobeex (Post 7469624)
Or maybe its a defective unit ? DOA ?


Im feeling like it might be , just my luck

This is my setup, ntg 4.5/audio 20
https://i.imgur.com/QlKrVRY.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Q0IOV3G.jpg

Second picture I just connect the radio OEM plug that's in my console directly to the new cable (OEM connector ) and then connect the new head from the 10.25 cable into the back of my console (standard)

Connect the RCA to aux cable.
https://i.imgur.com/n52boeT.jpg

Lastly I connect the blue OEM plug that was in my old display to the new wire I have pictured beneath and then connect the new rectangle white plug into the back of my screen leaving the usb out

https://i.imgur.com/WHFEcfA.jpg


No bootup or nothing, not sure if it's worth noting I have a reverse camera that has been properly installed into my car , but there's no wire at the front that would make me able to put it into the yellow cable as designed with the 10.25


Is there anything I can do?? To see if this device is defect??

Cheers for help

Maallen40 06-04-2018 06:39 PM

well I installed mine 2 weeks ago
 
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...13287ec689.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4485035817.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd822283df.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...911ec52f0a.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5155e26a8a.jpg
So far although I am happy with the unit, I find it's a hassle to "get going" With the old unit you can start your car, find your music and be in your way in literally seconds. Well depending on how you set this up, it can take a whole lot longer to get your music going. Remember its an android box, it needs to boot up just like your Ipad or Tab, which in some cases can take forever. I'm also finding my Bluetooth (android) when connected to my phone sounds terrible. I'm still trying to figure out which is the best one to use, the stock or the android or both the same time. But if you connect to your stock blue tooth, you wont get voice turn by turn directions with the nav. The Navigation is IGO, there is a choice of Google Maps but I chose to use IGO, for me its 100% better than my stock Nav with tons of features that actually work I installed an app that plays my video and music. Still trying to figure it out but so far I'm keeping it...Kijiji will be getting my old screen soon.

Gee_115 06-04-2018 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7452323)
Corect... We are tesing it right now. Hopefully the new sw is all good and new unit ready to ship end of this month.

Any word on the new unit?

Chris The Swede 06-05-2018 04:48 AM

Still in testing since I was NOT happy with the new non looking GUI I had them cange it back to OEM look...But should soon be ready.

Nicolas Farinas 06-05-2018 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7470876)
Still in testing since I was NOT happy with the new non looking GUI I had them cange it back to OEM look...But should soon be ready.

Price?
Group buy price?

Chris The Swede 06-06-2018 03:27 AM

its like only $30 more..

Vladds 06-06-2018 08:19 AM

So what you're saying is that the new GUI was just like the base screen of an android phone, not the car GUI, which the previous screen had and you've asked them to implement that screen and once that is ready, this should then be ready to go?

Also, important question: for this screen, is the ap for dashcam functional?

Tvremote 06-06-2018 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7469856)
Its not just to change..Kind of hard to do..

any help on trying to troubleshoot if my device is faulty? i cant turn it on. and its a pain sending it back to china so i need to exhaust all options please anyone

Nicolas Farinas 06-06-2018 06:52 PM





cocobeex 06-06-2018 07:03 PM

Hello Chris
Is the new release near by ?

When new release is out, my money is ready for you to take.

aznmode 06-06-2018 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7472379)
any help on trying to troubleshoot if my device is faulty? i cant turn it on. and its a pain sending it back to china so i need to exhaust all options please anyone

Maybe ask the seller to send you the wire harness just in case that is the fault since you don't want to send the unit back. My seller sent me cables. Although did not fix my issue 100%. And remember to file a dispute within 15 days of receiving the unit so it's on file with aliexpress. I'm assuming that's where you bought yours. If you don't there's not much you can do and unit is yours to keep..meaning you won't be able to get a refund anymore.

Chris The Swede 06-07-2018 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by cocobeex (Post 7472427)
Hello Chris
Is the new release near by ?

When new release is out, my money is ready for you to take.

Very soon...Just follow me on media.

Klaus60 06-08-2018 04:25 AM

Somebody knows is an update available - if yes from where can I get it ?
TYPE: XHD_BENZ_E
APP: V2.0.2.0409h
SYSTEM: V1.0.2.0409a
MCU: XHDBENZ_E2.2_0126
CAN: YT-BENZ V206.X9,00.00.00.38.00

Regards Klaus

Chris The Swede 06-08-2018 04:32 AM

There is only language updates so far. And AMG logo.

leusa201 06-10-2018 11:02 AM

new version android 6.0???
 
i just found today! this is the new android 6.0 version for mb e350?https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8e7d67bbf5.jpg
https://www.pricearchive.org/aliexpr...em/32865018998

ItchyTasty 06-10-2018 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by leusa201 (Post 7475255)


its not the new one. theres a price history going back months.and there are already screens with android 7.x

Chris The Swede 06-11-2018 04:04 AM

Trust me..Its not released yet. No there are NO versions of this in Android 7.

Badteriox 06-11-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7475686)
Trust me..Its not released yet. No there are NO versions of this in Android 7.

Hi Chris
Would the new version be available for ML w166? When?

Why not directly Android 8.0?

Thank you.

Chris The Swede 06-11-2018 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Badteriox (Post 7475703)
Hi Chris
Would the new version be available for ML w166? When?

Why not directly Android 8.0?

Thank you.

No plans for the 9" as of now.

Badteriox 06-11-2018 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7475705)
No plans for the 9" as of now.

Sad to read that. So could I expect a discount for that reason? :naughty:

djrabbi 06-11-2018 12:41 PM

I updated my OEM maps to 2017 and not very impressed so will be opting for this unit sometime this year. Any suggestions on where to get installed? I know it is "plug and play" but I don't have patience and will break something. Think Best Buy will do it since it's plug and play?

Chris The Swede 06-12-2018 03:18 AM

Its not that plug n play. Still needs some settings done and cable settings. I include a pdf on all that..

ItchyTasty 06-12-2018 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7475686)
Trust me..Its not released yet. No there are NO versions of this in Android 7.

Not true.

Here are 2 with android 7.1, or perhaps even 8.0 (the listing says both, so one is wrong, but at the least it's 7.1)

http://www.dvdplayer.com.cn/Anti-Gla...-pd444121.html

http://www.dvdplayer.com.cn/car-ster...-pd802131.html

Chris The Swede 06-12-2018 11:39 AM

And in WHAT way is that even close to our unit?? That is just normal very old screens with NO interactions with the car. They have no brackets whats so ever to w212 and all other models..Make sure you know what you talk about..

ItchyTasty 06-12-2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7476783)
And in WHAT way is that even close to our unit?? That is just normal very old screens with NO interactions with the car. They have no brackets whats so ever to w212 and all other models..Make sure you know what you talk about..

Not sure what you mean it has no interaction. Read the description, it clearly does. And I'm not sure how you claim it's a "very old screen" with no justification, as it has a newer version of android. The screens are both the same size, 10.25 inch, I'd wager the brackets are usable for this one as well.

Gee_115 06-12-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7476931)
Not sure what you mean it has no interaction. Read the description, it clearly does. And I'm not sure how you claim it's a "very old screen" with no justification, as it has a newer version of android. The screens are both the same size, 10.25 inch, I'd wager the brackets are usable for this one as well.

Only problem is I don't think anyone else makes the brackets across the models. 1 GB of RAM, not good enough, even though Android 7.1/8.

ItchyTasty 06-12-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7477122)
Only problem is I don't think anyone else makes the brackets across the models. 1 GB of RAM, not good enough, even though Android 7.1/8.

I contacted them. They know make the 8509 model with 2gb RAM, and will be making the other one soon as well.

JBFMCAR 06-13-2018 01:38 AM

Keep me updated with the new version when it’s out Chris I emailed you and I’m ready to get it.

Chris The Swede 06-13-2018 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by JBFMCAR (Post 7477533)
Keep me updated with the new version when it’s out Chris I emailed you and I’m ready to get it.

Its close to finnished..Final testings.

Chris The Swede 06-13-2018 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7476931)
Not sure what you mean it has no interaction. Read the description, it clearly does. And I'm not sure how you claim it's a "very old screen" with no justification, as it has a newer version of android. The screens are both the same size, 10.25 inch, I'd wager the brackets are usable for this one as well.

Trust me I know...They dont have the MB menues. I have worked with Hualingan for 10years. AND there are MANY FAKE "Android 7 and 8s" out there. They just write that to sell more....And then when you want to install a new app it says it wont work...

Chris The Swede 06-13-2018 03:03 AM

AND it looks like because of my constant hard work and pushing them its going to be REAL Android 7.1 on new one.

ItchyTasty 06-13-2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7477564)
AND it looks like because of my constant hard work and pushing them its going to be REAL Android 7.1 on new one.

That's great to hear

Gee_115 06-13-2018 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7477564)
AND it looks like because of my constant hard work and pushing them its going to be REAL Android 7.1 on new one.

Good job bro! very good news indeed. So I guess the release date has been pushed back?

Gee_115 06-14-2018 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7477564)
AND it looks like because of my constant hard work and pushing them its going to be REAL Android 7.1 on new one.

Now, since 7.1 will be available it is imperative that you can split screen with oem on one side and android on the other. Please make it happen.

ItchyTasty 06-15-2018 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7479435)
Now, since 7.1 will be available it is imperative that you can split screen with oem on one side and android on the other. Please make it happen.

seconded

Chris The Swede 06-15-2018 02:44 AM

Sorry no.

Chris The Swede 06-15-2018 02:45 AM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b12031a15c.jpg

This is on the way for W221!!!!! Great news for s-class owners.

huewish 06-15-2018 07:57 AM

Chris, is there an aftermarket 360 camera setup that you sell or recommend with the upcoming screen? Also, will the new screen have the ability to use a SIM for LTE capability?

dimmi 06-16-2018 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7472759)
Very soon...Just follow me on media.

I have the "old" unit (for some months now) , which as such has several fundamental flaws (would need a separate thread on that), and I do wonder this new "soon to come under testing" unit will have the same connections as the old one thus eliminating the need to rerun the complete physical installation all over again?

dimmi 06-16-2018 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7465413)
no, you cannot get it to work, there is a glitch is this particular head unit that is preventing the integration from working, sadly.

Well there a like tons of these "glitches to say the least ;)

kafklatsch 06-17-2018 12:02 PM

Mirroring custom install
 
His Chris, I am interested in using this 10.25 screen only as mirroring for an older m.o.s.t. system as part of a custom install. Can it be setup as just a mirroring display only (audio and video mirroring). The audio must have output from the screen/unit for connecting to the car OEM audio.. which I will work out ( audio-HK interface module?)


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7409931)
Yes of course. A bit tighter in the back though.


Chris The Swede 06-18-2018 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by kafklatsch (Post 7481130)
His Chris, I am interested in using this 10.25 screen only as mirroring for an older m.o.s.t. system as part of a custom install. Can it be setup as just a mirroring display only (audio and video mirroring). The audio must have output from the screen/unit for connecting to the car OEM audio.. which I will work out ( audio-HK interface module?)

No.

Chris The Swede 06-18-2018 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by dimmi (Post 7480379)
Well there a like tons of these "glitches to say the least ;)

It is???

dimmi 06-18-2018 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7481524)
It is???

You sure you want to walk down this route Chris ?

Chris The Swede 06-18-2018 01:59 AM

Sure..I have no problem with my 2 I have installed. So if its the units bought from me im very intrested. I can not answer for other sellers unit versions.

dimmi 06-18-2018 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7481526)
Sure..I have no problem with my 2 I have installed. So if its the units bought from me im very intrested. I can not answer for other sellers unit versions.

Hi Chris,
There are, at least, 7 areas to cover here waking down this route ;
  • GPS
  • Display (coating)
  • UX (user experience)
  • SW
  • Modem
  • Build Quality
  • Support
Let us start with the GPS…
  • GPS Reception (if any)
    • Putting the GSP antenna behind the device, below the dashboard gives no reception at all. I mean it is a Mercedes we are talking about here i.e. you don’t want fat cable hanging out from you device and a big fat antenna on your dashboard ?
    • Putting the antenna below the windshield on the dashboard gives 5-7 meters precision when it works (50%-50, Working vs. Not working).
      • Time to first fix can be a s long as 30 minutes !!!!
    • Putting the antenna below the rear-view mirror is major installation procedure .This is a job for a pro i.e. routing that GPS cable to the latter position. Still best case you will have 5 meter precision.
    • Have you seen in any of the online videos addressing the GPS or it installation procedure/placement ? No, you have not and does that not make you wonder why that is ?
    • There is, however, a fairly easy fix for this so you can hide the antenna below the dashboard (totally obfuscated) with up to 2 meter precision (minimum 4 meters). I’m not sharing this info however while I do ask the ones selling the device to tell us all how you achieve 2 meters precision and thus being in par with the original Mercedes GPS on a W212.
//Dimmi

Chris The Swede 06-18-2018 03:19 AM

Strange "glitches" I have to say.

1. Antenna should never be "hidden". I have mine at the rearview mirror and on the ML I have it actually mounted on the back of the diisplay and it works 100%. Easy install and no problem at all. How can you say this is hard? Its super easy to route that cable. No videos needed for that easy install. Almost sounds like you have a bad antenna.
2 Display (coating) Means??
3 Yes? Whats hard here? I find it super easy to use.
4 Yes? I provide it for free to my customers.
5 Modem??
6 Yes. Its superb. As good as an iPad in my experience.
7 My support is 100% I think..

dimmi 06-18-2018 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7481549)
Strange "glitches" I have to say.

1. Antenna should never be "hidden". I have mine at the rearview mirror and on the ML I have it actually mounted on the back of the diisplay and it works 100%. Easy install and no problem at all. How can you say this is hard? Its super easy to route that cable. No videos needed for that easy install. Almost sounds like you have a bad antenna.
2 Display (coating) Means??
3 Yes? Whats hard here? I find it super easy to use.
4 Yes? I provide it for free to my customers.
5 Modem??
6 Yes. Its superb. As good as an iPad in my experience.
7 My support is 100% I think..

No problem whatsoever with my antenna i.e the issue is it placement (and som other "stuff" that is lacking in this configuration) as I explained previously !
I do see that you are happy with your "installations" (I'm sorry but a Mercedes shouldn't have a bulky aftermarket GPS antenna visible is my take) thus then I guess other people in the forum can tell us about their experience in terms of GSP reception quality?
Still, no way you have 2 meters precision i.e. what does 100% mean ? Please use the pre-installed app in the unit and let us all know what 100% really translates to in terms of "meters" ?

Next Topic: "Display coating". This display is lacking Anti-reflective (AR) coating thus making it very hard to see what is being depicted on the screen when there is sunlight.

400ixl 06-20-2018 04:21 AM

Is using a GPS splitter to be able to use the OEM antenna for both an option? Are they FAKRA connections on both?

Chris, any view on timescales for the new Android 7.1 2Gb units? Does the latest version also fix the no mph (just kph) readouts?

Also interested in understanding the costs when it comes to importing into the UK from you. Which price option on your website do you choose (inc VAT, exc VAT) and does that mean there is still UK VAT, import duties etc to pay. If anyone in the UK has done this it would be useful to understand.

Chris The Swede 06-20-2018 05:33 AM

mph is the last thing they work on now before release...They have a AMG version now to 360 kmh thanx to me..

If you are in the UK you pay the EU tax on the site.

dimmi 06-20-2018 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7438968)
A couple more adds:
- Newer version of Android so we can install Android Auto
- Build in Carplay dongle hardware into the screen
- Ability to switch songs etc. using steering wheel controls within Carplay / Android Auto (screen can connect to COMAND via BT to do this. On this note, ensure that BT starts up ASAP on system boot. Now it takes at least 2-3 minutes).
- Ability to edit some of the text (e.g.: Lamplet, Handbrake Pull Up, km/h)
- Ability to see what's playing right now (within an audio app). Perhaps provide this information at the bottom of the screen....where AC information is displayed today? Or an option to pick between 'what's playing' and 'AC' in that area?
- Broadcast ID3 tags / music info to COMAND. Even 3-4 year old smartphones can send ID3 tags (song, artist, album info) to COMAND over BT. With this screen I only see "Audio Streaming" showing on my center console (and in the stock screen via FM/AM)
- Ability to turn-off automatic audio source switching. In its current form its more of a pain than a convenience.
- Make GPS more reliable. Google Maps SUCKS on this screen.
- Change whatever settings on the OS to ensure that the screen recognizes that we are in the country that the screen is currently being used in (for example - Google searches take me to Google.hk. I have also encountered night mode being turned on in Google Maps....in broad daylight, ugh!)
- Google Assistant!!!
- Finally (for now) - is there a way to create a "premium" version of this screen? With internals from this decade? The exterior of this screen is top-class. How about putting a snapdragon processor, additional memory, newer version of Android, etc. on the insides? Charge more for the "upgraded" SKU. Folks are already dropping over $600 for a screen that has the internals from a tablet made in 2012. I'm sure they wont mind paying a little more for something from 2017/18.


I fully agree there are tons of bug fixes (yes they are bugs not pending improvements) to be addressed but I'm afraid this is not gonna happen since their business model is to sell HW nothing else.
"Make GPS more reliable. Google Maps SUCKS on this screen." This is totally unacceptable for this kind of device i.e. that GPS does not work properly.
Does anyone know if the will use the same connectors in the upcoming device ?

400ixl 06-20-2018 09:47 AM

What are people using to connect these to the internet? Is everyone doing a hotspot from their phones, or is anyone using MIFI routers. If using a MIFI, what type and does it auto power on / off?

dacia 06-21-2018 09:48 PM

Chris, does the new version come with a SIM slot that can be used outside of China?
If so I can just pop in a cheap, data only SIM card and have fast Internet access without the need to tether my phone.

Chris The Swede 06-22-2018 02:07 AM

Not yet. Still hot spot used.

JBFMCAR 06-26-2018 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7485200)
Not yet. Still hot spot used.

Chris,
if you get it in before you ship my steering wheel i just ordered let me know i will send over the money and ship them all together.

Justin

Chris The Swede 06-27-2018 02:44 AM

Oh hard for me to keep track of that....Please email about it..

JBFMCAR 06-27-2018 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7489064)
Oh hard for me to keep track of that....Please email about it..

Ok not a problem what’s the eta till you start shipping the new one?
justin

Hamoody Abdulla 06-28-2018 01:18 AM

I am having and issue when the storage on my device. There are 3 storage partitions it seems: A 1GB partition labeled internal storage, a 12GB partition labeled phone storage and a SD partition that is 8GB. When installing apps from the Google Play Store, they are trying to install to the Internal Storage partition which does not have any free space. Is there way to get the device to install apps to the phone storage partition instead?

profir 07-01-2018 05:26 AM

Hi all,

For those of you who are having issues with GPS fix and date/hour out of sync, this is how I solved the problem or at least improved the annoying situation. Both are closely related in google play services so you have to manage it somehow external.
This is how I did it: I've uninstalled updates of chrome browser and google maps (factory pattern / android settings / storage / apps). After that, with the first occasion when the date was out of sync (in my case after first unit restart) I've opened immediately chrome browser wich asked me to update time/date. When I pressed "update time/date" it triggered the time /date android settings and from there I've selected "update automatic from network" (not from GPS and not manual, because none of it worked correctly after restart). Now​​​​​ I get GPS fix in max 1-2minutes after each restart and time is in sync with hot-spot instantly. Worth to mention that the GPS antenna is stuffed somewhere in the dashboard so in my opinion the GPS issue is more likely a software not a hardware one, and the position of the antena could just improve the quality of signal. The real problem is that the android system is somehow crippled and play services are not triggering corectly GPS processes.
​​​​​​At the end you can update gmaps and chrome. I didn’t bother because I don't use any of it and disabling auto update in play store I've managed to save 300+MB of Internal storage for waze and Spotify (where I'm having other problems that are consuming my brain right now).
​​​​
BTW, if anybody succeeded to correct the annoying spelling mistakes, I kindly ask him to share the solution - but I'm afraid that is not in the android part of the display (at least the beautiful "pay attention at round" certainly isn't)
Thanks

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profir 07-01-2018 06:11 AM

One more tip:
For hot-spot I've used an old galaxy a3 (first one),I've installed from play store Automate and I've created 2 "flows" - is quite easy and intuitive.
1st: when the phone is pluged to power adapter (connected to the socket inside the glove box and the engine is turned on - obviously) - turn off airplane mode, turn on hot-spot and activate flow 2.
2nd: when the phone is disconnected from power (turning off the engine) - turn off hot-spot, turn on the airplane mode and activate flow 1.
The phone battery consumption per night with these settings is 2-3% and it will be recharged in 5-10mins. In my experience data consumption for 2 hours of waze+Spotify per day is somewhere at 2GB monthly.
So now I have a cheap solution for hot-spot and is working flawlessly from two weeks now.


Guys, please keep this thread alive and share your tips and tweaks for this unit. Together we can diminish the frustration of spending +600USD for a semi retarded device.

huewish 07-01-2018 01:45 PM

I am waiting on the new unit, but I have already figured out what to use as a hotspot. I am on Tmobile, and have two phones, as well as an iPad. My iPad has unlimited data for $20 per month. However, my iPad also has unlimited 3g data for hotspot. Considering I’m not doing anything other than streaming podcasts and some music, as well as running Waze, I don’t need LTE. I carry the iPad with me everywhere anyway, so it’s no big deal to keep hotspot running. Thus, I have 4G for surfing the web and business use on the iPad, and 3G for the car at all times. All of this for $20 per month which is paid for by my company. Just thought I’d share as a possibility for others.

Nicolas Farinas 07-02-2018 12:43 PM


Nicolas Farinas 07-02-2018 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7489064)
Oh hard for me to keep track of that....Please email about it..

So, are you unable to give us the slightest idea when we can purchase? Weeks..months??

huewish 07-08-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7492805)
So, are you unable to give us the slightest idea when we can purchase? Weeks..months??

I’m in software, and I can tell you that a release is hard to judge. Putting a definitive release date on any project to the public is product suicide. You can make it through alpha, be buttoning up beta, and you find a major bug that could require nearly a full rewrite. It’s better to be patient and have a solid unit come out than to hurry the process and get something you regret installing in your car.

ItchyTasty 07-08-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by huewish (Post 7496960)


I’m in software, and I can tell you that a release is hard to judge. Putting a definitive release date on any project to the public is product suicide. You can make it through alpha, be buttoning up beta, and you find a major bug that could require nearly a full rewrite. It’s better to be patient and have a solid unit come out than to hurry the process and get something you regret installing in your car.

The first one was far from solid. I hardly think a Chinese aftermarket products company places a high priority on releasing quality products. To wit- if they had just consulted with one person who was fluent in English, they could have ironed out simple spelling and grammar errors, but that was too much to ask apparently.

Chris The Swede 07-09-2018 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7496978)
The first one was far from solid. I hardly think a Chinese aftermarket products company places a high priority on releasing quality products. To wit- if they had just consulted with one person who was fluent in English, they could have ironed out simple spelling and grammar errors, but that was too much to ask apparently.

Oh you know so little on how this works... They made this unit for the Chinese market. Of course they dont care about spelling.. I have different guys all over the world helping to do translations in different languages in just a file and sometimes its hard to translate to corect term from just a list of words. So we try our best.

I get a sample to test this week. IM the one fighting for the best unit. NOT the Chinese. And its HARD to get them to do it all.

huewish 07-09-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7496978)
The first one was far from solid. I hardly think a Chinese aftermarket products company places a high priority on releasing quality products. To wit- if they had just consulted with one person who was fluent in English, they could have ironed out simple spelling and grammar errors, but that was too much to ask apparently.

Just an FYI here, but writing code has nothing to do with spelling or grammar. It has to do with whether or not the unit functions as a whole. If you read the thread, you would see that Chris is trying to get the functionality we are requesting in the release. If you are that opposed to the spelling and grammar errors (which irritate me when English is actually someone's first language only), then how about not worrying when it comes to purchasing one of these units. Or, better yet, get Apple to develop one and pony up $10,000 for it.

Also, never buy first gen anything. Wait for the second release if you want something decent. You're a lab rat when you buy first gen. They get all the feedback from you bring pissed off, and then they make something reasonable the second time around.

ItchyTasty 07-09-2018 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by huewish (Post 7497537)
Just an FYI here, but writing code has nothing to do with spelling or grammar. It has to do with whether or not the unit functions as a whole. If you read the thread, you would see that Chris is trying to get the functionality we are requesting in the release. If you are that opposed to the spelling and grammar errors (which irritate me when English is actually someone's first language only), then how about not worrying when it comes to purchasing one of these units. Or, better yet, get Apple to develop one and pony up $10,000 for it.

Also, never buy first gen anything. Wait for the second release if you want something decent. You're a lab rat when you buy first gen. They get all the feedback from you bring pissed off, and then they make something reasonable the second time around.

Or how about I'm entitled to my opinion of a $600 product just as you are?

dacia 07-10-2018 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7497735)
Or how about I'm entitled to my opinion of a $600 product just as you are?

Your comment sounds more like a complaint than an informed opinion however as you don't actually own the product you have no reason to complain about.
If you think Ver 1 was sub-par just wait for Ver 2.
That's what I am doing and I for one am glad that Chris is pushing them to improve the product so that we could have a better owner / user experience.

Chris The Swede 07-10-2018 05:55 AM

I have it in hand now..Will test it..

aznmode 07-10-2018 01:02 PM

Looks like there is an android 7 version out. Is this the one you have now Chris? Nevermind my question. Looks like you did mention in an earlier post the new one is android 7.1. My apologies. Haven't been keeping up in this thread.

https://youtu.be/ILqaEc-dSSI

aznmode 07-10-2018 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7498428)
I have it in hand now..Will test it..

Chris can you test if split mode is available? TIA

Chris The Swede 07-10-2018 06:32 PM

Split mode?

Chris The Swede 07-10-2018 06:33 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...301d43d865.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ac115fcb4d.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c9d0553a32.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e4e498a341.jpg
Finaly mph and farenheit..I finaly made them do it.

aznmode 07-10-2018 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7498957)
Split mode?

Sorry I meant split screen. 2 apps split on 1 screen. This was introduced on android 7 and up.

aznmode 07-10-2018 07:53 PM

Looking good!

Vladds 07-10-2018 09:38 PM

Does the dashcam ap work now?

Nicolas Farinas 07-11-2018 12:29 AM

Take my money now!!

huewish 07-11-2018 05:56 AM

Looking good, Chris! Once you’ve played around with it a bit, could you shoot a video for us please? I’m sure everyone is dying to see the interface.

Chris The Swede 07-11-2018 06:18 AM

Interface looks about the same but tons of more settings...I get lost in them all..

Fuchstiger 07-12-2018 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Hamoody Abdulla (Post 7489915)
I am having and issue when the storage on my device. There are 3 storage partitions it seems: A 1GB partition labeled internal storage, a 12GB partition labeled phone storage and a SD partition that is 8GB. When installing apps from the Google Play Store, they are trying to install to the Internal Storage partition which does not have any free space. Is there way to get the device to install apps to the phone storage partition instead?

There is a way to increase the user partition to get more storage for apps. If you have the software from your device you can flash it with SP Flash. If you do that you have to edit the ebr1 and ebr2 files before. Look for some ebr editors on the web. That would be the easiest way to edit these files.
On my device there are 3 GB available for apps :)

leusa201 07-12-2018 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7499310)
Interface looks about the same but tons of more settings...I get lost in them all..

if i order from you today, i ll get the new android version for my w212 ?

Chris The Swede 07-13-2018 02:53 AM

Yes of course.

bucktown 07-19-2018 11:05 AM

Any updates?

JBFMCAR 07-19-2018 11:14 AM

Ordered the new one today! Chris what is the approximate shipping time to the US on these.

ItchyTasty 07-19-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by JBFMCAR (Post 7505524)
Ordered the new one today! Chris what is the approximate shipping time to the US on these.

For how much? And which vehicle?

Chris The Swede 07-19-2018 11:32 AM

About 1 week.

Nicolas Farinas 07-19-2018 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by JBFMCAR (Post 7505524)
Ordered the new one today! Chris what is the approximate shipping time to the US on these.

Wtf?! How and where? I've been sitting here waiting on a reply from Chris

Chris The Swede 07-20-2018 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7505907)
Wtf?! How and where? I've been sitting here waiting on a reply from Chris

???

Sly_North 07-20-2018 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7505907)
Wtf?! How and where? I've been sitting here waiting on a reply from Chris

Chris said on the previous page(s) we can order saying we want the newer model, and he'll ship them when he has them. Also from the screenshot on the previous page, he probably now has them.
Also there might be a newer model on AliXp (call it v3 if you want): still a Android 7.1 build, but with a 8-cores CPU instead of the quadcore.
EDIT: btw I think Chris is on vacation next week.

Chris The Swede 07-20-2018 01:59 AM

There is no other version than V2. If they say anything else they just lie. Yes, A7 are shipping.

Sly_North 07-20-2018 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7506186)
There is no other version than V2. If they say anything else they just lie. Yes, A7 are shipping.

You're re-selling models from the original company, Carsara, if I'm not mistaken.
Now other Chinese brands are selling similar products (there's tons of sellers on AliXp, having different videos on YouTube), with the same (or copied) software but more beefed-up hardware. RoadTop for example seems to sale an 8-core CPU one for US$491 shipping included.
Of course it's not a v3 from Carsara; thus I said "call it v3 if you want" to make it clear it's not the same hardware specs; definitely not an official tag.

Chris The Swede 07-20-2018 04:00 AM

Haha..No! They actually sell ours that I have put so much work into. They are just a reseller. Not a maker. And they have NO V2 for that amont. Might be the V1 then. They dump prices just to sell And they DO NOT offer ANY support. Almost 100% of their customers comes to me for support and help as soon as they get them...

And yes, our V2 is 8 core...

Nicolas Farinas 07-20-2018 10:34 AM

Ok.. I must have missed the post somehow saying they were already in. Chris, when you have a moment can you post a change log of the new features? I guess I'm not following what's been changed from the previous versions...so there is a mph option I see. The slight translation oddities have been fixed as well? I'd like to purchase but I don't even know how to go about that..PayPal? Cost of the unit? Shipping to 67212? Group buy discount?

aznmode 07-20-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7506378)
Ok.. I must have missed the post somehow saying they were already in. Chris, when you have a moment can you post a change log of the new features? I guess I'm not following what's been changed from the previous versions...so there is a mph option I see. The slight translation oddities have been fixed as well? I'd like to purchase but I don't even know how to go about that..PayPal? Cost of the unit? Shipping to 67212? Group buy discount?

I'd like to know this as well as I need to determine for myself if it's worth upgrading mine. So far it seems MPH, Farenheit, and additional menus. A few other things I would like to know:

1. Is audio switching working consistently? This seems to only work once during first boot. If you go back to OEM radio and listen to radio, the next time you launch for example youtube or google music, the sound will not auto switch so you need to go back to OEM radio and switch it to AUX.

2. Is mirroring finally working with Samsung phones?

3. Is the car image on the main screen still of a CLA or does it now corresponds to your car model?

4. Is there now auto dimming? If not, does the brightness at least have a far better brightness (a little harder to see display during daytime on mine) And is the adjustment easier to access now? A quick toggle for brightness maybe?

5. Is there split screen mode (display 2 apps at the same time)? This is an android 7 feature.

6. When using the phone app, is it still only outputting on the left speaker?

7. Is bluetooth streaming consistent? On my phone, I only got it to work once on mine

8. Is the GPS stronger?

9. I see there is now a recent app button on the top right of the screen. Will this allow you to close apps? This would be good for freeing up ram when the device starts to slow down due to too many apps open.

10. Is the selection list in the mainscreen configurable? I want to add additional apps to this so I don't always have go to the apps list to search for my go to apps.

11. Are the apps in the apps list auto rearranging? I notice this on mine when I go to the apps list, the first 8 apps is always changing order.

12. Is the USB still low powered and support hot swap? I notice on mine it won't recognize anything I plug into the usb unless I restart the unit. It seems it will only recognize what's plugged into the usb during boot up.

Sorry if this list is a bit long but these are the things I would like to know on V2.

kavik 07-20-2018 02:56 PM

is there any difference if you have the HK system with the amplifier and (I assume fiber optics)? Does the signal still run through it correctly?

LemonSqueezy 07-20-2018 03:00 PM

I too would like to know what changes will be made based off the list above

bucktown 07-23-2018 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7506378)
Ok.. I must have missed the post somehow saying they were already in. Chris, when you have a moment can you post a change log of the new features? I guess I'm not following what's been changed from the previous versions...so there is a mph option I see. The slight translation oddities have been fixed as well? I'd like to purchase but I don't even know how to go about that..PayPal? Cost of the unit? Shipping to 67212? Group buy discount?

Also waiting for a change log and hopefully some real world demonstration of the new features that address the issues in the first model. Are these ready to ship? Still working on bug fixes?

Nicolas Farinas 07-23-2018 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by bucktown (Post 7508714)
Also waiting for a change log and hopefully some real world demonstration of the new features that address the issues in the first model. Are these ready to ship? Still working on bug fixes?

I'm sure Chris is a busy man, I wish communication was a lil bit better, as I checked this thread multiple times this weekend. I don't get it... maybe I'm wrong, but im getting the vibe he Doesn't seem to motivated to sell these things... All I can think is what if I had my dash torn apart and had a question this weekend as he prides himself on customer service... I would have had to half ass the install just to put everything back together to get to work this morning because he's been a no show on the forums... Chris, do you want to sell me one of these or not? Work with me brother..you have a forum full of people who wanna buy this thing...I personally have followed this thread for months waiting on your suggestion that the new one was coming..now supposedly it's here, but your not.

ItchyTasty 07-23-2018 10:44 AM

If you guys aren't already, follow pei emily on youtube. Here's the latest video:



Sly_North 07-23-2018 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7508897)
I'm sure Chris is a busy man

Actually this week, not so much. Or maybe a lot. But not on the Android GPS or his other products: as his web sites says, he's on vacation.

kajtek1 07-23-2018 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7508897)
I'm sure Chris is a busy man, I wish communication was a lil bit better, as I checked this thread multiple times this weekend. I don't get it... maybe I'm wrong, but im getting the vibe he Doesn't seem to motivated to sell these things....

Might be that in Europe business is run with different mentality. In America there is huge competition and I heard about US salesman texting customers from family dinner table. In Europe some businesses have no competition at all and the person knows that when he doesn't answer the phone Friday afternoon, you will call him again on Monday. You might notices than not too many European businesses do have answering machines for the same reason.
For some people family life is more important than extra dollar ;)

djrabbi 07-23-2018 11:08 AM

I really want this but I feel like it has too many small issues need to be fixed with all these posts. I hardly use my OEM screen now for anything but the navigation is just god awful!

Fuchstiger 07-24-2018 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7506210)
Haha..No! They actually sell ours that I have put so much work into. They are just a reseller. Not a maker. And they have NO V2 for that amont. Might be the V1 then. They dump prices just to sell And they DO NOT offer ANY support. Almost 100% of their customers comes to me for support and help as soon as they get them...

And yes, our V2 is 8 core...

Hahaha...and Carlife-Mall? Also a reseller?! :D :D
Every reseller in every forum wants to be the owner of this product. Ridiculous.
And carsara gives support...

Sly_North 07-24-2018 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Fuchstiger (Post 7509993)
Hahaha...and Carlife-Mall? Also a reseller?! :D :D
Every reseller in every forum wants to be the owner of this product. Ridiculous.
And carsara gives support...

My thoughts, but I was keeping it for me ;)

Anyways, I'm wondering if one can power up these things at home and set them up before installing it in the car?
In my case, I've almost no signal in my underground parking, so I'd rather install and set up all I want at home instead of driving out and taking so much time waiting for downloads.

Skeechan 07-25-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7506199)
You're re-selling models from the original company, Carsara, if I'm not mistaken.

Carsara is not a manufacturer. From my understanding they are a trading company, Shenzhen Best and Love Trading Co. Ltd. and Carsara is their trademark. They represent manufacturers and market their goods along with logistics (pickup, distribution, etc). They do not appear registered in China for manufacturing. Rarely are you buying directly from a manufacturer. Far more often than not it is a trading and logistics company (wholesale distributor). That is why you find this same product in a bunch of different stores all over the world, the actual manufacturer sells its product to multiple trading companies.

Carlife Mall Tech is registered as a manufacturer as Carlife Mall Technology Co Ltd, specifically of car interface technologies, with Emily Pei the registered business manager.
The first Industrial Area, Tangwei, Bao'an, 518000, Shenzhen,China Shenzhen, Guangdong

Sure looks like Carlife would be the actual manufacturer although being Android and apparently rooted, any end user could modify and then resell it with some added/changed features.

Carlife does their own trading and marketing.

dacia 07-26-2018 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by Fuchstiger (Post 7509993)
Hahaha...and Carlife-Mall? Also a reseller?! :D :D
Every reseller in every forum wants to be the owner of this product. Ridiculous.
And carsara gives support...

When watching the video some of the explanations are kinda difficult to understand as Carsara's support is Chinese English, Chris' is native. .
I e-mailed Carsara for price and the quote was US$650 including shipping (and PayPal fee of $20). Chris' price, without VAT but including shipping, is US$667.
So for $17 I get native English speaking support and detailed knowledge of the product which would be very important for me when trouble shooting.
Your mileage may vary.

Yeah, family IS more important than money.
For many of us.

According to Chris' website he'll be back on July 26 (European time).

Skeechan 07-26-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7512546)
So for $17 I get native English speaking support and detailed knowledge of the product which would be very important for me when trouble shooting..

That is exactly why I ordered from Chris as well. Same for my color cluster upgrade (on my 2011).

Sly_North 07-26-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7512546)
I e-mailed Carsara for price and the quote was US$650 including shipping (and PayPal fee of $20). Chris' price, without VAT but including shipping, is US$667.
So for $17 I get native English speaking support and detailed knowledge of the product which would be very important for me when trouble shooting.
Your mileage may vary.

Yep. For such a minor difference I'd take it from Chris.
From what I see, I can get it for $490 including shipping + $33 of VAT. 20% cheaper becomes tangible.

ItchyTasty 07-26-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7512778)
Yep. For such a minor difference I'd take it from Chris.
From what I see, I can get it for $490 including shipping + $33 of VAT. 20% cheaper becomes tangible.

Where do you see the new version for $490?

Sly_North 07-26-2018 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7512780)
Where do you see the new version for $490?

On AliExpress.

ItchyTasty 07-26-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7512784)

I could be wrong, but there have been units with 2 gigs of ram, and a newer version of android for some time now. I dont believe this one has the updates that the carelife mall one has.

Sly_North 07-26-2018 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7512786)
I could be wrong, but there have been units with 2 gigs of ram, and a newer version of android for some time now. I dont believe this one has the updates that the carelife mall one has.

Could be, I'm not sure: I've seen some units claiming to have a faster quad-cores CPU with Android 7 for a few months; then this one with the same 8-core CPU since 2 weeks.
And to be honest, I don't need mph and F° units, so I thing I don't need the CarelifeMall updates (unless they added something else? Is there a changelog?)

ItchyTasty 07-26-2018 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7512790)
Could be, I'm not sure: I've seen some units claiming to have a faster quad-cores CPU with Android 7 for a few months; then this one with the same 8-core CPU since 2 weeks.
And to be honest, I don't need mph and F° units, so I thing I don't need the CarelifeMall updates (unless they added something else? Is there a changelog?)

I'm hoping they do a video (or maybe Chris will) showing the changes in-depth. There's one posted now that shows the below. But a lot of it is cryptic, like "turn to start AVM." all of this needs to be clearly explained.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...28f9ee85a6.png

ItchyTasty 07-26-2018 10:35 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6f449796a2.png

A better picture

Nicolas Farinas 07-26-2018 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7512546)
When watching the video some of the explanations are kinda difficult to understand as Carsara's support is Chinese English, Chris' is native. .
I e-mailed Carsara for price and the quote was US$650 including shipping (and PayPal fee of $20). Chris' price, without VAT but including shipping, is US$667.
So for $17 I get native English speaking support and detailed knowledge of the product which would be very important for me when trouble shooting.
Your mileage may vary.

Yeah, family IS more important than money.
For many of us.

According to Chris' website he'll be back on July 26 (European time).

What's his site address?

Nicolas Farinas 07-26-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7512797)
I'm hoping they do a video (or maybe Chris will) showing the changes in-depth. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...28f9ee85a6.png

This exactly.... I've been ready to buy this for months... I just wanna know what all has been changed from v1 to v2

Skeechan 07-26-2018 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7512884)
What's his site address?

Chris is at CKM
ckmcardesign dot com

I see the vacation notice is gone now.

Skeechan 07-26-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7512797)
But a lot of it is cryptic, like "turn to start AVM." all of this needs to be clearly explained.

I think AVM is 360 degree "Around View Monitoring", a top down view of the entire car surroundings using down facing cameras front, rear and mounting on the bottom of the mirrors. I have seen videos about how to place all the cameras for the 360 top down view. eg youtube HJc8fU-bW5o

Chris The Swede 07-27-2018 02:50 AM

Im back...

Sly_North 07-28-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7512784)

I've received this unit from AliExpress. And well... It works! It needs a small adapter connecting to the USB port in the center console cubby as my GLC doesn't have a Aux input. Then all's working perfectly
​​​​​​https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...66ae1b8190.jpg

Nicolas Farinas 07-28-2018 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7514318)
I've received this unit from AliExpress. And well... It works! It needs a small adapter connecting to the USB port in the center console cubby as my GLC doesn't have a Aux input. Then all's working perfectly
​​​​​​https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...66ae1b8190.jpg

would you mind making a video going through the menus?!? I'm sure not only is, but others on the forum would love you forever. Communication ****ing sucks from this Chris guy...how many questions did we ask and all we get is one sentence that he's back? Like...wtf...seriously? Are you in the states? Install was pretty easy? Any complaints about the unit? What was the total cost.. ...did u have to pay customs? Care to provide the link from the seller you bought from?!

AfterMarket 07-28-2018 11:21 AM

New Android 7 Settings
 
I have posted a video of all of the "Settings", so that you can SEE all of them. I don't have the previous version, so I don't know what is new.


"Turn to start AVM" = when you use the turn signal, it will switch to the selected camera (either RCA input or Stock) while the turn signal is on. Then, switch back to your previous screen when the signal is turned off.

Mirroring works well for Android over USB, but not over WiFi
Touching the screen interacts with the Android phone, if you enable USB debugging

The device does not support Google Assistant (the app), but it has a mic that pics up pretty well for voice commands/search
e.g. "Ok Google, Play The Eagles" will launch google play music and start playing The Eagles
but "Ok Google, pause music" does nothing

Let me know if you have any questions about the settings.

Nicolas Farinas 07-28-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7514442)
I have posted a video of all of the "Settings", so that you can SEE all of them. I don't have the previous version, so I don't know what is new.

https://youtu.be/3zo1DNyhjqk

"Turn to start AVM" = when you use the turn signal, it will switch to the selected camera (either RCA input or Stock) while the turn signal is on. Then, switch back to your previous screen when the signal is turned off.

Mirroring works well for Android over USB, but not over WiFi
Touching the screen interacts with the Android phone, if you enable USB debugging

The device does not support Google Assistant (the app), but it has a mic that pics up pretty well for voice commands/search
e.g. "Ok Google, Play The Eagles" will launch google play music and start playing The Eagles
but "Ok Google, pause music" does nothing

Let me know if you have any questions about the settings.

man..you rock! Thank you so much!! I can't wait to watch the video... I'm at work and boss man is being a dick so it will be a few hours. .where did you purchase? Cost? How was the installation? Whats your initial impressions with it... steering wheel and command knob work?

ItchyTasty 07-28-2018 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7514442)
I have posted a video of all of the "Settings", so that you can SEE all of them. I don't have the previous version, so I don't know what is new.

https://youtu.be/3zo1DNyhjqk

"Turn to start AVM" = when you use the turn signal, it will switch to the selected camera (either RCA input or Stock) while the turn signal is on. Then, switch back to your previous screen when the signal is turned off.

Mirroring works well for Android over USB, but not over WiFi
Touching the screen interacts with the Android phone, if you enable USB debugging

The device does not support Google Assistant (the app), but it has a mic that pics up pretty well for voice commands/search
e.g. "Ok Google, Play The Eagles" will launch google play music and start playing The Eagles
but "Ok Google, pause music" does nothing

Let me know if you have any questions about the settings.

Nice, thanks for posting. There are a lot of settings that have no explanation, but I guess experimentation will be necessary.

My question now is this unit appears to have the software that is shown in the carlife mall videos. Did you order from them? If not, it seems other sellers are using the same software that was supposedly being developed by carlife to address customer complaints and issues with the the V1 screen. If that's the case, it just makes sense to go with whoever offers the cheapest price. I'd also be interested to see if you can use google maps offline by just downloading the local maps

timopro 07-29-2018 01:52 AM

GLK
 
Hi all, I bought a "V2" version of the 10.25" from Aliexpress, with Android 7.1 everything works fine, except the original display doesnt show, I cannot see the radio menu or any original display..I double checked the wiring and connection everythigs Its correct...I installed ina MB GLK 220 Facelift 2014,
I tries to read thw old post but didnt find a solution for my problem..any advice? Cheers from Switzerland.

Chris The Swede 07-29-2018 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by timopro (Post 7514907)
Hi all, I bought a "V2" version of the 10.25" from Aliexpress, with Android 7.1 everything works fine, except the original display doesnt show, I cannot see the radio menu or any original display..I double checked the wiring and connection everythigs Its correct...I installed ina MB GLK 220 Facelift 2014,
I tries to read thw old post but didnt find a solution for my problem..any advice? Cheers from Switzerland.

Ask the seller of the unit. ;)

timopro 07-29-2018 03:58 AM

Yep done it, Im looking for any other fast advice..as this is a forum.... 😉😉🤗

Sly_North 07-29-2018 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by timopro (Post 7514907)
Hi all, I bought a "V2" version of the 10.25" from Aliexpress, with Android 7.1 everything works fine, except the original display doesnt show, I cannot see the radio menu or any original display..I double checked the wiring and connection everythigs Its correct...I installed ina MB GLK 220 Facelift 2014,
I tries to read thw old post but didnt find a solution for my problem..any advice? Cheers from Switzerland.

The video should come through a small blue connector plugged in the cable with the smallest white plug behind the screen.
​​​Did you buy a screen that is explicitly compatible with your GLK?

LemonSqueezy 07-29-2018 11:04 AM

Hi Chris, do you have any answers to post #471

timopro 07-29-2018 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7515057)
The video should come through a small blue connector plugged in the cable with the smallest white plug behind the screen.
​​​Did you buy a screen that is explicitly compatible with your GLK?

ok I solved, I had to change video resolution to number 4..it was set to 2 ..tks for support anyway.

Chris The Swede 07-29-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7515071)
Hi Chris, do you have any answers to post #471

Sorry no...But Id say most of it is fixed or working now.

Split screen will never be done.

AfterMarket 07-29-2018 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7514524)
man..you rock! Thank you so much!! I can't wait to watch the video... I'm at work and boss man is being a dick so it will be a few hours. .where did you purchase? Cost? How was the installation? Whats your initial impressions with it... steering wheel and Comand knob work?

I purchased from http://www.ckmcardes********/ for $658.20
The installation was a challenge to do it right.
The steering wheel controls work for volume, and the Comand knob works.

Some other thoughts:
1. I ordered from CKM because of this forum and the support he had provided in the past. I did not want to take a chance with a bad unit (return issues) or other support if I ordered elsewhere.
2. I contacted Rock (carlife), and he responded quickly on a question I had via email, but their website did not offer the product (even though he said it was available directly).
3. As Sly North suggested, I wanted to set this up on a "test bench" before I installed it in the car. Once the unit was in route, i ordered a 12V power supply so i had it on hand when the unit arrived. It says it uses 2A, so I ordered a 5A supply. I could not get it to power up... Maybe I should have gone with a 15A or 30A. I connected to the yellow and black wires in the harness that feed a fuse box, but was unable to get it to power up on the bench. I started getting worried that I would smoke the unit, so... see #4
4. Preparing the vehicle for a bench test is super quick. I had the the old screen out, the ventilation trim, and radio out in less than 30 minutes. I used the first part of Chris' video
for the screen removal and this video
for the ventilation and radio. I was able to hook up the screen and harness within another 30 minutes and check everything. Sly North: If you have poor signal in your garage, i would just drive to a parking lot and "play" with the rough install to confirm everything is working for you (and you can keep the engine running to save your battery). Or maybe you can experiment with a higher amp power supply on the bench... but it is still a limited experience because you are missing all of the Comand stuff.
5. The install is a bit rough to route the wires. First, routing the aux cable from the unit to the aux port in the arm rest is straight forward, but tedious. There is a natural cable channel under the ash tray for the aux cable... and I routed one of the usb females (there are two) to the hole under the ash tray (no more ash tray, but I don't smoke). I spent about 8 hours total on it (but disclosure: I was also routing some additional power wires and USB over to the glove box for a 360 camera box while I had the car torn down, and routed accessory power to my armrest for a remote cigarette lighter and fast charging ports). I used this video to remove the ashtray.
Note: this might be overkill for some. You could probably route it under one of the trim pieces, but I wanted to tap power also.
6. It is a b*tch to get that radio back in the hole with all those extra connectors on the back. I just kept pushing them down into the cavity back and below the radio (behind the A/C control). I was worried that I would disconnect something or pinch a wire when I pushed the radio in, but it finally went in...

For my needs, I am pretty happy with the result. I wanted a monitor for a 360 camera, no loss of stock Comand, and phone mirroring (Samsung S9). This provides that for me.

I think with Tasker on my phone, and Tasker (maybe autovoice) on the screen, I will be able to get this to work as I hoped.
It is a nice upgrade to the stock screen, and love that I will be able to add 360 view (no more wheel scuffs) without having an additional monitor (and love that the turn signal switches to the 360 camera when turning). Next weekend: install the 360 cameras (oh boy...).

AfterMarket 07-29-2018 04:43 PM

Thanks to all of those that posted here and helped me find answers before I purchased!

IMHO, this product could use a dedicated wiki or moderated thread.

There are lots of tips and tricks that we can share as a community to improve on the experience without fishing through 20 pages of posts.

This device is far from perfect, but it can also be pretty great - just depends on your needs/expectations.

AfterMarket 07-29-2018 04:50 PM

Here is a picture of the USB connector (I will use for USB mirroring) that comes up through the hole where the ashtray normally is.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b0d485247b.jpg

bucktown 07-30-2018 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7515194)
Sorry no...But Id say most of it is fixed or working now.

Split screen will never be done.

If a demonstration video is out of the question, can we get a change log? I, like most here who are interested I'm sure, would hate to order this V2 expecting perfect function and bug fixes and be disappointed after a lengthy process and install (and subsequent return).

For all the talk about "support", there seem to be a lot of voices in here asking pertinent questions and getting nowhere, and multiple PM's left unanswered.

I'm sure you're a busy man, and this is only one segment of a very large platform, but it seems we only get the support if we buy the product on faith, and not a moment sooner...I'd love to be proven wrong though.

Skeechan 07-30-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by bucktown (Post 7515602)
For all the talk about "support", there seem to be a lot of voices in here asking pertinent questions and getting nowhere, and multiple PM's left unanswered.

Chris is on a 30 day ban for advertising (I guess having the website in his forum signature). Personally, I have never had trouble getting support from Chris by emailing directly.

JohnnyC 07-30-2018 11:01 AM

yes i can confirm that as well about chris.

bucktown 07-30-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7515766)
Chris is on a 30 day ban for advertising (I guess having the website in his forum signature). Personally, I have never had trouble getting support from Chris by emailing directly.

Is he not a forum sponsor? I was under the impression he was.

Skeechan 07-30-2018 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by bucktown (Post 7516188)
Is he not a forum sponsor? I was under the impression he was.

Doesn't appear on the registered vendors list, unless there is a difference between a sponsor and registered vendor.
https://mbworld.org/forums/vendor_directory.php

willi6 07-31-2018 02:17 AM

Reply
 

Originally Posted by bucktown (Post 7516188)
Is he not a forum sponsor? I was under the impression he was.

hey guys Chris can answer for 30 days, he's been banned or something like that so you have to contact him directly if you want answers I guess

Skeechan 08-01-2018 05:40 PM

Well got my Android 7.1 (V2?) unit today from Chris and NOTHING but problems trying to get it to work in my 2011 E350 SDN with NTG4. First, no comand is showing in the picture in picture, but the 7.1 settings screen looks different than the one in the beginning of the thread so I cannot find that scaling menu. Also no audio at all, even when I hook up the old command screen (in parallel) and the dash shows it is on a radio station. The comand dial also doesnt do anything. Finally major android apps crash. When trying to start navigation for example, I get global_cfg not found error.

This thing is a complete mess.

Things I have done and tried.

First my unit uses the silver video adapter since I do not have the OEM blue plug. The paper in the box (there was absolutely ZERO instructions included with this thing) said connect the red off of the silver box to white and black on teh adapter hardness. Done and no comand. Tried the thing earlier in the thread providing video (yellow) with 12v and still nothing.

Double checked the fiber optics were going into the adapter cable at the head unit, fine.

Check that the connector was well seated between the OEM harness and the adapter cable and the adapter cable and the head unit. The cable is very hard to plug into the head unit but is in as far as it will go and the latch barely latches.

Checked fiber optics again were plugged into the outer port.

What does work, RPM, door is ajar, reports correct temp and then android stuff itself, screen obviously functions, touch functions, some apps open, but that it is. Nothing works as it should when it comes to the comand interface, dial and audio. Car has ZERO audio now..

Heisenberg5070 08-01-2018 06:20 PM

You should have waited a while before buying it so that they fix all the bugs first.



Originally Posted by Skeechan
Well got my Android 7.1 (V2?) unit today from Chris and NOTHING but problems trying to get it to work in my 2011 E350 SDN with NTG4. First, no comand is showing in the picture in picture, but the 7.1 settings screen looks different than the one in the beginning of the thread so I cannot find that scaling menu. Also no audio at all, even when I hook up the old command screen (in parallel) and the dash shows it is on a radio station. The comand dial also doesnt do anything. Finally major android apps crash. When trying to start navigation for example, I get global_cfg not found error.

This thing is a complete mess.

Things I have done and tried.

First my unit uses the silver video adapter since I do not have the OEM blue plug. The paper in the box (there was absolutely ZERO instructions included with this thing) said connect the red off of the silver box to white and black on teh adapter hardness. Done and no comand. Tried the thing earlier in the thread providing video (yellow) with 12v and still nothing.

Double checked the fiber optics were going into the adapter cable at the head unit, fine.

Check that the connector was well seated between the OEM harness and the adapter cable and the adapter cable and the head unit. The cable is very hard to plug into the head unit but is in as far as it will go and the latch barely latches.

Checked fiber optics again were plugged into the outer port.

What does work, RPM, door is ajar, reports correct temp and then android stuff itself, screen obviously functions, touch functions, some apps open, but that it is. Nothing works as it should when it comes to the comand interface, dial and audio. Car has ZERO audio now..


Skeechan 08-01-2018 06:31 PM

Okay a bit of progress...

my silver adapter had a broken wire in the harness. Got that fixed and now I have comand video and audio. Dial will run comand, but nothing in android, unless I am mistaken and it is not supposed to.

i do have audio back for comand only like radio but no audio from android. In checking the black and white white on my adapter (the one that is supposed to connect to Redon the adapter) get no voltage. Yellow also no voltage and I thought yellow or white with black where supposed to supply 12v to the adapter.

also no auto switch to aux

Skeechan 08-01-2018 10:07 PM

Alllllright, what a nightmare, 8 hours so far. Turns out the bad crimp in the adapter wasn't the only problem. Whoever put the pins into the connectors put a few in backward so they wouldn't lock. I would plug it in and it would work, remove it plug it back in and it wouldn't. I was pulling my hair out until I grabbed my eye loupe and looked at the connectors. Flipped the pins and voila, most of the unit started to work. The bad connector assembly was the source of my audio problem.

So now it is hooked up correctly, so I think, but still several things are not working properly, both in hardware and software.

Hardware wise
Comand dial does not work in Android, I was under the impression that it is supposed to. I can use it through touch no problem, but that is a reach to get to the right side of the screen.
Auto switching to AUX never works. I have to switch to comand, change the input and exit. Lame.
Backup camera does not work. I get the yellow and green graphics lines and they respond to steering, but the actual image never appears. Did I miss a connector? Is there a connector only for the OEM backup camera, because I can switch to and use comand no problem.
GPS is dog slow at picking up signals. I have repositioned the GPS antenna several times but it is still really slow. It picks up 2 right away, but to get 3-6 or 3-7 takes forever. Once locked, navigation is speedy.

Software wise
My Android 7 unit is SUPER buggy. The apps that ship with it have problems, like my iGo app is missing some component so it won't start. Several store apps will install and run occasionally, but crash frequently. Waze for example, a very popular navi app for us in the USA, will sometimes crash at start, or will crash about 2 or 3 minutes into navigation. It is super annoying. Other apps are apparently not compatible. Netflix for example, the Google Play Store reports as incompatible so won't let you install. Apple Music will install but has problems, it will not let me log in. I press log in on the screen and the app reloads the same screen instead of presenting the enter your apple ID and PW screen. So, Apple Music is a fail. Some apps require the unit not be rooted or jailbroken, like my AT&T U-Verse app (I use it to listen to TV programming like news channels during my commute) reports it failed a security check and the most common reason is that you are trying to run it on a rooted phone. That is not a bug, just not compatible. So of the 3 apps I primarily bought this android unit for, 1 of them is crash happy and 2 don't work at all. Disappointing. But it looks great >_<

I am hoping this stuff can be fixed with OTA updates. I am also not happy about getting bad harnesses as it turned a 2 hour job into an all day job. People still on the fence and who want to use a lot of apps should probably wait on the V2 until some of these issues are resolved or workarounds discovered. I will talk to Chris, my seller, and see if he has any workarounds or ideas about how to get stuff like the backup camera working, comand dial working or get the unit to report that it is not rooted. I don't care about rooting, I just want store apps like AT&T U-verse to run.

I am really hoping I just ate too many Crayons and forgot a connector somewhere. Most of the video's including Chris' skip steps including some connections and without any instructions at all, you are left with open connectors wondering if something is supposed to be connected to them.

Lastly, I ended with an extra part, a loop back labeled A. I have no idea what it is supposed to be for and found no reference to it in any of the W212 assembly videos. Maybe it is the magic connector that makes the dial and backup camera work, but I have no idea where it goes.

Skeechan 08-02-2018 12:00 AM

Carplay dongle works fine except there doesn't seem to be support for night mode. Normally carplay is integrated with the dash brightness control and when at max, locks carplay into day mode but take the dash lights a notch of max and maps will flip into night (when dark/headlights on etc). With this Android 7 + carplay setup, the Apple maps stay locked in day mode which is WAY too bright even with the backlight all the way down. Anyone have carplay with this screen and have you ever seen maps in night mode? I normally use Waze but waze has been buggy on this Android 7 unit and Apple maps responds to siri for quick directions.

timopro 08-02-2018 02:29 AM

GLK audio Issues
 
Dear all, installed the V2 unit (Carsara) Everything works fine , but the audio from Android app like Music Play or Spotify are just working only on one channel in my case only on the LH speaker...
My GLK have no AUX input but I have the AUX choice in the menu...

OEM Radio or CD works fine on both Speaker

I have no auto switching If I turn on Music Play I have mannualy to select AUX and trough bluethoot I have audio but on the LH Speaker only... any idea ? some one of you had similar Issue ?

I read all the thread before but no solution found...

bigjule 08-02-2018 04:24 AM

Wow u guys reiterate on y I chose to wait ! That's just to much BS to b dealing with .. i went thru similar Bs with a dynavin unit on my old BMW .. it was stressful and just plain unbearable to deal with ..as bad as I want Android auto on my 212 I think I'm gonna wait

Skeechan 08-02-2018 08:05 AM

If basic HW/SW QC had been performed at the factory in China, I would not have had most of the problems that I have had so far. I received defective components (bad harnesses) and it took a long time to realize what was going on. Fixing them took just a few minutes. At least I think I got it fixed. There may be other harness defects causing the comand dial and backup camera not to work, but I did continuity tests on all the pins and it looked good before putting it all back together.

If not for that harness problem, it would have been largely plug and play. I didn't even have any problems getting everything stuffed behind the head unit. I just reached from the top and nudged the connectors down behind into deeper area at the back while sliding the unit back in. I had plenty of room in my W212 install. To get connectors into the glove box, I just drilled a hole on my 2nd level near the multimedia port, pulled the AUX audio cable and 2 USBs through and then slid on a grommet. For the fish, I used a 48" zip tie and it was a very easy pass through.

Today, I received some parameter things to try from Chris that may fix the backup camera, AUX switching and the comand dial. The software bugs may be solved through OTA updates from China or other work arounds, that will just be a wait. Things like carplay maps night mode may not be fixable just because of the way this is all set up (not a factory OEM integration). If I can get Waze working reliably, Apple maps would be moot. Maybe the problems with some native apps not opening are also causing the crashing of some 3rd party apps. Once the major issues like the camera are working, I can start tweaking on android. These are the only problems and quirks I am seeing. Some are pretty major, but the rest of the stuff works fine. On my commute home yesterday, had no problem streaming video from a news website and tethering is rock solid. Screen mirroring works great. Sound quality and integration is really good. I will try more functions and 3rd party apps today, but I have a lot of work to catch up on as that dumb harness set my Wednesday on fire.

Earlier there were comments about screen brightness not being very good or bad screen quality. This V2 is nothing of the sort. Image quality is awesome as is brightness. There are full backlight controls for both day and night mode and well as auto switching between day and night. If anything, the screen is too bright and I wish I could turn the backlight down even more in night mode. The comand PiP is pretty good, you can tell it is scaled but is still plenty sharp and it is super easy to switch back and forth.

There are plenty of quirks and bugs for sure and some Android gestures are not the same as they are on tablets, but the wow of going from the lame 2011 NTG4 comand to this has me more than willing to hunt down work arounds or just live with them. But that harness...WTF.

willi6 08-02-2018 12:53 PM

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dineshh 08-02-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7518478)
Alllllright, what a nightmare, 8 hours so far. Turns out the bad crimp in the adapter wasn't the only problem. Whoever put the pins into the connectors put a few in backward so they wouldn't lock. I would plug it in and it would work, remove it plug it back in and it wouldn't. I was pulling my hair out until I grabbed my eye loupe and looked at the connectors. Flipped the pins and voila, most of the unit started to work. The bad connector assembly was the source of my audio problem.

So now it is hooked up correctly, so I think, but still several things are not working properly, both in hardware and software.

Hardware wise
Comand dial does not work in Android, I was under the impression that it is supposed to. I can use it through touch no problem, but that is a reach to get to the right side of the screen.
Auto switching to AUX never works. I have to switch to comand, change the input and exit. Lame.
Backup camera does not work. I get the yellow and green graphics lines and they respond to steering, but the actual image never appears. Did I miss a connector? Is there a connector only for the OEM backup camera, because I can switch to and use comand no problem.
GPS is dog slow at picking up signals. I have repositioned the GPS antenna several times but it is still really slow. It picks up 2 right away, but to get 3-6 or 3-7 takes forever. Once locked, navigation is speedy.

Software wise
My Android 7 unit is SUPER buggy. The apps that ship with it have problems, like my iGo app is missing some component so it won't start. Several store apps will install and run occasionally, but crash frequently. Waze for example, a very popular navi app for us in the USA, will sometimes crash at start, or will crash about 2 or 3 minutes into navigation. It is super annoying. Other apps are apparently not compatible. Netflix for example, the Google Play Store reports as incompatible so won't let you install. Apple Music will install but has problems, it will not let me log in. I press log in on the screen and the app reloads the same screen instead of presenting the enter your apple ID and PW screen. So, Apple Music is a fail. Some apps require the unit not be rooted or jailbroken, like my AT&T U-Verse app (I use it to listen to TV programming like news channels during my commute) reports it failed a security check and the most common reason is that you are trying to run it on a rooted phone. That is not a bug, just not compatible. So of the 3 apps I primarily bought this android unit for, 1 of them is crash happy and 2 don't work at all. Disappointing. But it looks great >_<

I am hoping this stuff can be fixed with OTA updates. I am also not happy about getting bad harnesses as it turned a 2 hour job into an all day job. People still on the fence and who want to use a lot of apps should probably wait on the V2 until some of these issues are resolved or workarounds discovered. I will talk to Chris, my seller, and see if he has any workarounds or ideas about how to get stuff like the backup camera working, comand dial working or get the unit to report that it is not rooted. I don't care about rooting, I just want store apps like AT&T U-verse to run.

I am really hoping I just ate too many Crayons and forgot a connector somewhere. Most of the video's including Chris' skip steps including some connections and without any instructions at all, you are left with open connectors wondering if something is supposed to be connected to them.

Lastly, I ended with an extra part, a loop back labeled A. I have no idea what it is supposed to be for and found no reference to it in any of the W212 assembly videos. Maybe it is the magic connector that makes the dial and backup camera work, but I have no idea where it goes.

I tested the V1 last month and it worked flawlessly. I'm waiting on a V2 replacement. Sorry, to hear of your troubles.
The 'A' loop connector is to terminate/loop the A connector when A/B connector is plugged into the 'B' connector. Can't comment on V2 my V1 arrived with 'A/B' connected to 'A' and the 'B' connector terminated with the 'B' loop connector freeing the 'A' loop connector.
I had no issues with the steering and command controls with this configuration on my 2015 GLA45.

Hope this helps and good luck with your install.

djrabbi 08-02-2018 01:58 PM

Thank god I didn't get this unit yet!

Skeechan 08-02-2018 09:59 PM

The added instructions I received from Chris fixed my comand dial and AUX auto switching is now partially working. Oddly, it will switch from comand audio to AUX but takes about 20 seconds to do it. It will not back to comand. New problem cropped up today. When parked the unit will go to sleep and then is supposed to wake when the ignition is on but mine occasionally won't. I have to unplug the wide connector and actually re-boot. It has happened a few times so far. I did not see any physical buttons like a tablet or phone has to try and force it awake but when asleep touch doesn't wake it. It is like it didn't pick up the ignition turning on. Still some quirks, but Waze did not crash on my 30 minute commute this morning which is a good sign.

Chris is troubleshooting my odd AUX problem a bit more but that is it for my major issues. Now I am working on finding a way to get my unit to automatically connect to my iPhone. With my iPhone 8, I have to open the hotspot window before the screen will connect so this is manual every time I get into the car. Android phones are probably automatic but I am hunting a work around.

Nicolas Farinas 08-02-2018 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7519437)
The added instructions I received from Chris fixed my comand dial and AUX auto switching is now partially working. Oddly, it will switch from comand audio to AUX but takes about 20 seconds to do it. It will not back to comand. New problem cropped up today. When parked the unit will go to sleep and then is supposed to wake when the ignition is on but mine occasionally won't. I have to unplug the wide connector and actually re-boot. It has happened a few times so far. I did not see any physical buttons like a tablet or phone has to try and force it awake but when asleep touch doesn't wake it. It is like it didn't pick up the ignition turning on. Still some quirks, but Waze did not crash on my 30 minute commute this morning which is a good sign.

Chris is troubleshooting my odd AUX problem a bit more but that is it for my major issues. Now I am working on finding a way to get my unit to automatically connect to my iPhone. With my iPhone 8, I have to open the hotspot window before the screen will connect so this is manual every time I get into the car. Android phones are probably automatic but I am hunting a work around.


are you talking about the Chris guy that's banned?

Skeechan 08-02-2018 11:12 PM

Yes

Sly_North 08-03-2018 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7518992)
Thank god I didn't get this unit yet!

Well if you need to hear another kind of story: my v2 cheaper model from AliXp works fine. :)
GPS works, WiFi works, the screen and touch response is great, the interface is smooth. Audio comes in stereo, using the RCA to USB adapter that adds an AUX entry (NTG5 cars like my GLC don't have an AUX behind the factory radio unit).

The only thing I'd like to improve is the GPS detection time. Does anyone know if the v2 units can be rooted? I'd love to give 'faster gps' a try (to use a more local GPS ntp server).

Kampi 08-03-2018 04:59 AM

Dashcam mit DVR anschliessen
 
Hallo zusammen bin neu hier.
ich habe einen s212 bauj 2014 mit NTG4.7 und das Display mit Android 5 11 installiert.
Nun möchte ich gerne die Dashcam mit gelben cinch Stecker am Display anschliessen.
kann mir jemand sagen an welchen Anschluss ich einstecken muß?
welche App funktioniert damit?
hat jemand Erfahrung damit gemacht?
Gruß Kampi

Sly_North 08-03-2018 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Kampi (Post 7519596)
Hallo zusammen bin neu hier.
ich habe einen s212 bauj 2014 mit NTG4.7 und das Display mit Android 5 11 installiert.
Nun möchte ich gerne die Dashcam mit gelben cinch Stecker am Display anschliessen.
kann mir jemand sagen an welchen Anschluss ich einstecken muß?
welche App funktioniert damit?
hat jemand Erfahrung damit gemacht?
Gruß Kampi

1) I think you want to use the yellow video connector and the unconnected power cables on the smallest harness behind your screen.
2) The screen switches to the reverse camera automatically when you switch your gearbox to reverse.

Kampi 08-03-2018 05:19 AM

Dashcam mit DVR anschliessen
 
Die Dashcam ist eine Frontkamera in der Windschutzscheibe.
Die Rückfahrkamera ist original und funktioniert. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cd4fb3a4f.jpeg

Skeechan 08-03-2018 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7519575)
Does anyone know if the v2 units can be rooted?

My V2 unit may already be rooted as my AT&T U-Verse app fails the security check and the vast majority of the time it is because it detects the device is rooted.

Kampi 08-03-2018 06:18 AM

Dashcam mit DVR anschliessen
 
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6061b4f1c9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...50930e00e7.jpg
Das ist mein Display

Gee_115 08-03-2018 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Kampi (Post 7519609)
Das ist mein Display

Wo hast du die Dashcam bekommen? Ist es Fabrik?
Ich spreche nicht Gertman, ich benutze Google Translate

Kampi 08-03-2018 09:55 AM

Die Dashcam ist aus China.
Top Qualität

Shenzhen E-future Electronic Technology Development Co., Limited
über Alibaba*

Nicolas Farinas 08-03-2018 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7519575)
Well if you need to hear another kind of story: my v2 cheaper model from AliXp works fine. :)
GPS works, WiFi works, the screen and touch response is great, the interface is smooth. Audio comes in stereo, using the RCA to USB adapter that adds an AUX entry (NTG5 cars like my GLC don't have an AUX behind the factory radio unit).

The only thing I'd like to improve is the GPS detection time. Does anyone know if the v2 units can be rooted? I'd love to give 'faster gps' a try (to use a more local GPS ntp server).


pm me the link u purchased at?

Sly_North 08-03-2018 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7519731)
pm me the link u purchased at?

I already posted that link 2 pages ago.

Gee_115 08-03-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7519731)
pm me the link u purchased at?

All depends on your car, you would still need the bracket. In my case I have a 14 CLS, can't do it without the bracket and it seems only Chris have the bracket for a CLS.

ItchyTasty 08-03-2018 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7519741)
I already posted that link 2 pages ago.

My question is, is yours running the same software as the carlife mall one. Carlife seems to be taking suggestion from Chris to fix things. If yours has Farenheit and MPH, that might be an indicator that it is the same software, but it's not conclusive.

Nealgobert 08-03-2018 11:24 AM

Regarding the gps delay, could someone do me a favor and try something out of curiosity? Take the gps antenna and attach a steel backing plate to it (is the antenna magnetic?), approximately 3” by 6” in size. It doesn’t have to be that size exactly- as long as it is larger than the antenna and fits within the confines of its intended location it will be fine. I’d like to know if this improves the delay issue.

Sly_North 08-03-2018 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7519757)
My question is, is yours running the same software as the carlife mall one. Carlife seems to be taking suggestion from Chris to fix things. If yours has Farenheit and MPH, that might be an indicator that it is the same software, but it's not conclusive.

It looks the same yes. With mph and F°

Skeechan 08-03-2018 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Nealgobert (Post 7519767)
Regarding the gps delay, could someone do me a favor and try something out of curiosity? Take the gps antenna and attach a steel backing plate to it (is the antenna magnetic?), approximately 3” by 6” in size. It doesn’t have to be that size exactly- as long as it is larger than the antenna and fits within the confines of its intended location it will be fine. I’d like to know if this improves the delay issue.

I have a V2 and after putting it face up (tape down behind the the screen under the dash, I don't have delays. I made sure my wires were bundles and that my wifi antennas were not flopping around and getting in the way. I think before I was having issues because I did not have everything secure while I was testing my setup and my wifi antennas or wires were ending up on top of the GPS antenna.

Sly_North 08-03-2018 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7519903)
I have a V2 and after putting it face up (tape down behind the the screen under the dash, I don't have delays. [...]

Interesting! So when you switch on the tablet you get a GPS lock in what? A few seconds?

Skeechan 08-03-2018 02:36 PM

So from the time the car starts, screen wakes, seatbelt on and all that and then I make it to my app that would use GPS, like Waze, it is already 20 seconds or so and by then I have 4 or 5 birds locked. When I was specifically messing with antenna placement, I would turn on the car, wake the screen, go straight to GPS test and it would already have 3 birds locked with additional ones locking every 5 seconds or so. But this was after messing quite a bit with antenna position. The top of the dash may have metal in it.

For antenna placement I took the mount off and left the screen in a spot I could see it (running GPS test) and then moved the antenna around until I got great signal...then stuck it down). Then when putting all the wires and wifi stuff back in I made sure they didn't end up on top of the antenna (using a stick and flashlight after the mount piece was back on). If I don't pay attention, the wires and hardness ALWAYS ended up on top of the GPS antenna or pushed the antenna around into a spot where signal turned to garbage.

Since sticking the antenna down and making sure the wires were out of the way, I have had no problems at all with GPS. For me, the problem with navigation now is waiting for my Internet connection. My tablet is a bit slow connecting to my iPhone's hot spot. Waze will show my location right away, but says waiting on network or something like that as the tablet is getting connected to the Interwebz.

Sly_North 08-03-2018 03:05 PM

That is excellent news! My GPS antenna is just thrown behind the screen with all cables, not stuck in place. I've to work on cleaning that...

Skeechan 08-03-2018 03:20 PM

Worth a try, no $$$ and doesn't require ripping the entire dash apart.

Nicolas Farinas 08-03-2018 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7519741)
I already posted that link 2 pages ago.

****...lol sorry I'm getting very confused as there are so many different places to purchase and I'd like to get one from somewhere that work as I hate to order one that I find by myself and have it be old version

Skeechan 08-03-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7520038)
****...lol sorry I'm getting very confused as there are so many different places to purchase and I'd like to get one from somewhere that work as I hate to order one that I find by myself and have it be old version

I got mine from Chris at CKM and am glad that I did because I needed quite a bit of post install help getting bugs worked out.

Sly_North 08-03-2018 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7519944)


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7519903)
I have a V2 and after putting it face up (tape down behind the the screen under the dash, I don't have delays. [...]

Interesting! So when you switch on the tablet you get a GPS lock in what? A few seconds?
So from the time the car starts[...]
[...] sticking the antenna down and making sure the wires were out of the way, I have had no problems at all with GPS.[...]


Confirmed that it makes quite some difference!
Before I had the antenna + its whole 1m cable rolled and pushed/compressed inside the screen socle; GPS lock would take several minutes, easily >5mn.
Now the GPS antenna cable is pushed down into the central console (plus I did the same for the other antennas); I haven't timed it precisely, yet I'd say the GPS lock took maybe 30s to 45s. That's much more acceptable; not as good as my cellphone, yet I can leave with that. Thx a lot for the cable management/clean-up tips!

Now the only software improvement I'd love to get is the music library management: all folders are put together in a single list, I don't see a way to choose to play only one folder (genre or artist or album). Basically the interface is so simple it's just listing all existing mp3. And it seems the only way to order stuff around is to name all folders ARTIST_ALBUM (and having sub-folders is pointless, they'll show up at the root of the library).

aznmode 08-03-2018 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7519437)
The added instructions I received from Chris fixed my comand dial and AUX auto switching is now partially working. Oddly, it will switch from comand audio to AUX but takes about 20 seconds to do it. It will not back to comand. New problem cropped up today. When parked the unit will go to sleep and then is supposed to wake when the ignition is on but mine occasionally won't. I have to unplug the wide connector and actually re-boot. It has happened a few times so far. I did not see any physical buttons like a tablet or phone has to try and force it awake but when asleep touch doesn't wake it. It is like it didn't pick up the ignition turning on. Still some quirks, but Waze did not crash on my 30 minute commute this morning which is a good sign.

Chris is troubleshooting my odd AUX problem a bit more but that is it for my major issues. Now I am working on finding a way to get my unit to automatically connect to my iPhone. With my iPhone 8, I have to open the hotspot window before the screen will connect so this is manual every time I get into the car. Android phones are probably automatic but I am hunting a work around.

Do you mean the entire screen is off or just the command side isn't showing on the screen?

On the V1 there is a reset hole (top hole) on the left side of the screen to hard reset the screen. There's another hole 2 inches below it and that is the microphone. I assume the V2 has the same reset hole (top hole).

If it's just the command not showing on the screen then try holding the command "On' button for about 10 seconds to reboot the command.

Question on the audio switching. Once it auto switch, manually switch it back to command audio. Then open up youtube or music app and can you tell me if it will auto switch to AUX the 2nd time. I found on my v1 it will only auto switch once. Just wanna make sure this new unit do not have the same issue. TIA!

Sly_North 08-03-2018 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7520189)
Question on the audio switching. Once it auto switch, manually switch it back to command audio. Then open up youtube or music app and can you tell me if it will auto switch to AUX the 2nd time. I found on my v1 it will only auto switch once. Just wanna make sure this new unit do not have the same issue. TIA!

It's the same on my v2 unit: if I switch back to my Audio20's medias or GPS or radio, I then have to manually select the UBS/AUX input. Not a deal breaker for me, as my plan was to use only the table 99% of the time.

aznmode 08-03-2018 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7520206)
It's the same on my v2 unit: if I switch back to my Audio20's medias or GPS or radio, I then have to manually select the UBS/AUX input. Not a deal breaker for me, as my plan was to use only the table 99% of the time.

Thanks. Oh well. Atleast the new V2 seems to be running better and has so many options in the setting. Will have to wait for more reviews before I upgrade though.

Skeechan 08-04-2018 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7520189)
Do you mean the entire screen is off or just the command side isn't showing on the screen?nd.

Question on the audio switching. Once it auto switch, manually switch it back to command audio. Then open up youtube or music app and can you tell me if it will auto switch to AUX the 2nd time. I found on my v1 it will only auto switch once. Just wanna make sure this new unit do not have the same issue. TIA!

¥

Blank screen = android is not waking from its sleep mode, but today I did not have the problem. Yesterday I had my A-B cable set up incorrectly and fixed it. Today, post-fix, the unit was flawless* and all kinds of awesome. Comand dial works great, backup camera works great, GPS was very fast...

My unit will not auto switch back to comand, but will auto switch to Android, taking about 20 seconds to do it. Now I am finding myself never using comand so really, autoswitch is becoming irrelevant to me. The only comand thing I use is backup camera and that works great, even before the android is fully booted (from a cold start). My unit will auto switch more than once, it just takes 20 seconds each time so I just do it manually the rare few times I have done it. If I am in comand anyway, the audio menu is right there so I switch to AUX then tap the screen back to Android.

* Flawless as can be expected...I had the youtube app crash twice in a row and on the third click worked fine for over an hour. I actually have worse Android problems with my Samsung S8 handset. LIke today, I had to delete and reinstall Facebook on my Galaxy S8 as it suddenly refused to start without immediately crashing. The V2 itself, no problems at all today (after applying Chris' tweaks and fixes).

Skeechan 08-04-2018 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7520225)
Thanks. Oh well. Atleast the new V2 seems to be running better and has so many options in the setting. Will have to wait for more reviews before I upgrade though.

After all the help from Chris, my V2 unit is running much better. I did have Youtube crash twice in a row and then no problems with Youtube for a good hour on my long commute in traffic, but Waze worked fine. I have Carplay pausing Apple Music if I try using Carplay as a background app but that really is not an android problem (carplay is not meant to be run in background). In reality, I have more frequent android app crash problems on my Galaxy S8 with Android 8 that this Android 7 10.25 unit. Yesterday I had an issue with the unit not waking from sleep, but today, several drives and no problem with waking. To do some of Chris' recommended fixes, I did change the A-B cable from A to B and at the same time cleaned the connector to the screen and make sure everything was securely connected. The sleep may have easily been related to A-B as that fixed my dial not working (my 2011 E350 USA NTG4 wanted A-B to B instead of default A-B to A).

Next thing for me is getting an anti glare screen film sheet, like maybe one that would fit the large size iPad Pro or even a laptop to apply and then trim as in bright sunlight there is a bit too much reflection of the passenger seat on the screen. I want a matte screen like the original COMAND had. Other than that, my V2 unit was rocking today. Drove to work watching (well glancing at while listening to) Youtube Music (the music video app) and then Youtube Premium on the way home and out to dinner with my impressed wife. In the middle of the day I used Waze to get the to the lowering shop to get my springs installed and no more Waze problems (GPS locked immediately after adjusting the antenna position).

One thing I really love about the V2 is its microphone. Even with noise of the AC on max, it has no problem getting my voice in SIRI or with Waze's voice recognition. V2 is way cool. There are a few very small things left like trying to trick AT&T U-Verse app into running (claims it cannot confirm authentication as if the unit is rooted) and the android version of Apple Music which won't log in (log in button doesn't do anything); 3rd party apps from Google Play store stuff.

If not for my kit coming with a bad wiring harness, the install would have largely been very easy and a couple of emails from Chris got the settings worked out (like getting the backup camera turned on). It sure doesn't seem like wiring harness problems are common so I would recommend V2 with the caveat that you will need some post install help from your seller or the forum to iron out a few wrinkles like settings. Without Chris I would have been pretty screwed since there was so little info on V2 and units are packed in China with zero instructions included.

Skeechan 08-04-2018 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7520160)

Now the only software improvement I'd love to get is the music library management: all folders are put together in a single list, I don't see a way to choose to play only one folder (genre or artist or album). Basically the interface is so simple it's just listing all existing mp3. And it seems the only way to order stuff around is to name all folders ARTIST_ALBUM (and having sub-folders is pointless, they'll show up at the root of the library).

You might want to try another player. I found that Navi icon on the main screen is only a shortcut. With a long press I think, I was able to get to a menu where I could choose what app is opened by the Navi icon. I think it was a long press as I found the menu by accident. I switched my NAVI icon destination from iGo to Waze. Now when I click NAVI it opens Waze. You might be able to do the same with the audio player and then use an even better audio player from the Google Play store. Once that new media player app is installed and if it works the way you want, try long pressing the audio icon on the main shortcut screen and see if you can change what app the audio icon actually opens. If I get Apple Music for android working, I am going to try to map the audio icon to that (or maybe Youtube Music) as I don't have any MP3s transferred.

Speaking of that, I would do some FLAC of my favorite tracks. I also want to see what effect audio processor apps might have, like equivalents of Dolby Atmos for Mobile type apps. But I think android is only outputting 2.0 audio and has no idea that it is running so many speakers (no front - rear in Android). AUX should still be processed by Logic 7.

Now that my V2 is installed and working well, the fun of messing with app store apps begins. Also want to see about getting this thing on my mobile plan with a SIM as tethering to iPhone is something I need to do every time I get into the car. I want V2 to have its own unlimited interwebz.

mjqg14 08-04-2018 11:29 PM

any tips or tricks for all the cables? im having trouble putting back the radio unit. Thank you!

Skeechan 08-04-2018 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by mjqg14 (Post 7521084)
any tips or tricks for all the cables? im having trouble putting back the radio unit. Thank you!

On my 2011 212, behind the head unit is like a small pit with some sort of module down there and farther back. As I was pushing my radio back, I would reach through the top plate holes in the ac vent area down and guide the wires. Everything fits no problem so long as you get the main connector brick down there flat, so you just have to steer the harness around to make sure it is not doubling up or folding on itself. I had mine out twice, and both times had no problem getting it in using this method.

LemonSqueezy 08-05-2018 01:33 AM

Pretty much the same, theres a small indented section behind the unit, bundle your cables and your module into that pit, then push!

Skeechan 08-06-2018 07:58 PM

Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

ItchyTasty 08-06-2018 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7522448)
Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

Tasker app?

Skeechan 08-07-2018 07:38 AM

The problem is that wireless hotspots on phones are off by default to save battery. For iOS to iOS or macOS to iOS tethering, there is a method of remote starting a hotspot but I have not found a way to do this from the V2 to remote start an iOS or Android 8 hotspot, perhaps using BT.

dineshh 08-07-2018 12:59 PM

I used T-Mobile's SyncUP Drive (4gLTA 2gig plan $10/month). It worked great before I sent my V1 back. I'm waiting on a replacement V2.

Skeechan 08-07-2018 01:43 PM

I have T-Mobile, I don't see how I missed this. I have an Automatic already in my OBDII port so I should be able to pick up a splitter and use this. Looks like I will need to go to a TMo store and see what plans they have as they do not appear to be orderable online.

No unlimited data plan, only tiered plans. Currently have unlimited tethering with my phone. Might look at AT&T and see if they still offer the ZTE OBDII which appears to be the same thing.

Nope, Mobley is dead along with the $20 plan for OBDII devices at AT&T, per a store I called.

I have been messing with Tasker with no luck. On my TMo locked S8 it won't turn on hotspot when it connects to the screen via BT. My friend recommended Automate so I am giving that a go.

Skeechan 08-07-2018 02:58 PM

Turns out neither Tasker or Automate will work for turning on the hotspot in A8 or 8.1 unless the phone is rooted (looking at lengthy reddit and Google groups threads on it). Something changed in A8 that broke it, denying permissions to turn on tethering (error is tether_privileged) through system apps. Grr. This would have been the best solution since I have unlimited tethering and AT&T killed their $20 unlimited OBD II plan (people were putting the SIM in other devices). TMo's higher data plans for their OBD II setup is overpriced IMO as are Sprint's.

dineshh 08-07-2018 08:00 PM

All this talk of bad GPS reception, has any of you guys tried a different GPA Antenna with a male SMA plug (some on Amazon)? Mine that was shipped with the V1 worked fine. I had it rolled up in one of the vents as a temp measure. I was thinking of installing it under the center speaker grill on my GLA. Haven't taken it apart to see if I have enough room for the mini speaker and the GPS Antenna.
If one of you can check to see the Voltage out from the GPS socket on the display to be 3v-5v?

Something like this would work:


Skeechan 08-07-2018 08:11 PM

I did not have bad reception with my V2 once I actually positioned my antenna and made sure none of my wire bundles were stuck on top. At first, I had not stuck my antenna down and when stuffing in all the wires and WiFi antenna goings on, the GPS antenna ended up pushed to the side, turned up on its side, with a bunch of junk on top. Now that it is positioned and stuck down, I get good locks very quickly.

The antenna can't penetrate metal people installing can move it around and watch the GPS test to see where they get best signal. Once they have good signal, they will also get much faster lock-ons. Then when stuffing in the wires, make sure nothing ends up on top of the antenna.

Skeechan 08-07-2018 08:57 PM

New problem cropped up today. I read that the V2 supports Apple iPod so I reformatted my iPod Classic 160GB for Windows and loaded my stuff but when connected it crashes my V2 at boot with a Process System Isn’t Responding error window and touch stops working etc. I have to turn off the car and remove the key, open a door and unplug the iPod, then the V2 will boot normally when I restart the car.

if I wait to plug in the iPod until the system is booted I get “preparing Apple USB drive, Checking for errors” and then after five minutes it claims it is corrupt even though it isn’t. The iPod plays fine and mounts in windows and OS X no problem, passing disk inspections in both operating systems.

Is the iPod support claim incorrect (maybe only certain models) or is there a size limit for what iPods are supported? I have tried obvious stuff like disk use on and off but with the same results, V2 crashes/hangs at boot. There might be a size limit or number of tracks limit that crashes my V2. I don't have a nano to try so I can't test that.

I did get Apple Music working. Turns out the short screen height obscured the log in lines behind graphics but if you start swiping around the top 3rd of the screen, you will uncover the log in lines. It did take 3 or 4 tries to get the validation code for 2 factor log in but it did end up working.

dacia 08-09-2018 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7522448)
Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

While Chris and Carlife say that the SIM slot doesn't work outside China another seller on AliExpress advertises the unit as having 4G connection:
"3G/4G : Yes, support SIM card directly without 3G/4G dongl:"
From Carsara's listing: 4G NetworkTD-LTE: B39 / B40 / B41; FDD-LTE: B1 / B3 / B7 / B8 (Support 4G in only Asia-Pacific region)
"Have you tried just sticking a SIM card in the slot on the side and see what happens?

Skeechan 08-09-2018 10:04 AM

Looking at that list of supported bands, that would by why it doesn't work outside of Asia. T-Mobile USA for example uses 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE. China Mobile on the other hand uses 38, 39, 40 and 41. So this is a hardware limitation, not some sort of SIM carrier type lock.

ItchyTasty 08-09-2018 10:12 AM

I like how they charge hundreds of dollars for these, and cant be bothered to include installation instructions. For those who have installed, what tools are necessary? I suspect a plastic pry bar and torx (which number?) screwdriver at the least. Perhaps this is car model dependent as well. Anyone install in a W205?

Skeechan 08-09-2018 10:20 AM

I don't know about W205 but for my W212 the tool list was very short

1. To make it easy, the Mercedes dash / trim T-handle hooks, they have been the same for a million years and are an easy get on eBay (I borrowed my brother's who uses them on his 95 E320 estate)
2. Plastic wedge kit to help get the dash trim off (I didn't need it, but good to have if you have some really tough clips)
3. Torx angle set or socket set to get the screen and headunit out. I used T handle on the screen but the space for the head unit is limited so I used a 1/4 drive Torx ratchet set for the headunit)
4. Phillips #2 screw driver to put the mount on the dash and screen on the mount (#2 screws replace the Torx, included in the kit). I think the screen was T8, don't remember the head unit but it is similar, maybe T6.
5. Youtube to get instructions on how to remove the dash (once you see where the hook points are it is REALLY easy).
6. Patience as you will likely need some post install support. Do not expect it to "just work" as there are often settings in Android that need to be changed or AB plug will need to be moved from AB to A to AB to B, etc

dineshh 08-09-2018 11:48 AM

V1 Vs V2 packaging differences ???

1. My V1 came with an external speaker for phone calls. So I was told by Chris and never used the Android phone App to confirm. I don't see the speaker mentioned with the V2 package. Can one of you with a V2 unit tell me if the Phone plays through the car's speakers? Or, does the display have a built in speaker?

2. V1 display came with a WiFi antenna that was only used for the Chinese market. Didn't have any reception issues without it. I see the new unit has 2 WiFi Antennas. Are they needed?

Skeechan 08-09-2018 01:34 PM

1. Not sure, have not tried making calls through the V2 BT (but there was a speaker in my kit too).

2. There are 3 ports on the back of the V2, 2 for included wifi antennas and 1 for included GPS antenna. I connected all of them and stuffed them under the dash, behind the mount.

dineshh 08-09-2018 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7524783)
1. Not sure, have not tried making calls through the V2 BT (but there was a speaker in my kit too).

2. There are 3 ports on the back of the V2, 2 for included wifi antennas and 1 for included GPS antenna. I connected all of them and stuffed them under the dash, behind the mount.

OK, Thanks.

amgggg... 08-10-2018 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7522448)
Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

Try this out: Hot Spot Starter...seems to work for me on Android 8.1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.thjunge11.autohotspot&hl=en_US

There's a free version available but it disables some cool features such as:
- Start selected Apps with the hot spot (basically means, start specific apps like radar warners everytime you enter your car and bluetooth connects to the handsfree unit)
- Several setup options like shutdown bluetooth at disconnect, select specific bluetooth devices only

Besides, the full version is like $1.00

Skeechan 08-10-2018 08:06 PM

I just paid the buck and will give it a shot. Looks like it should work fine with my S8.

Skeechan 08-13-2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by amgggg... (Post 7525963)
Try this out: Hot Spot Starter...seems to work for me on Android 8.1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tspot&hl=en_US

There's a free version available but it disables some cool features such as:
- Start selected Apps with the hot spot (basically means, start specific apps like radar warners everytime you enter your car and bluetooth connects to the handsfree unit)
- Several setup options like shutdown bluetooth at disconnect, select specific bluetooth devices only

Besides, the full version is like $1.00


Didn’t work for me with 8.0.0. The app pop up notification says hotspot started but it never does. No other permissions to turn on.

Skeechan 08-14-2018 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by dineshh (Post 7525157)
OK, Thanks.

Made my call today and the unit used the build in mic and the car's speakers just fine, but I had to mess with the screen setting to make it work and it seems per call. On the right side there is an icon that looks like a tablet and I had to fiddle with it (talking about an icon in the BT phone app on the screen, the icon to the right of APPS) a few times to switch from phone to the car even though on the phone it was showing call-audio-mic send-receive via the BT.

dineshh 08-14-2018 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7528531)
Made my call today and the unit used the build in mic and the car's speakers just fine, but I had to mess with the screen setting to make it work and it seems per call. On the right side there is an icon that looks like a tablet and I had to fiddle with it (talking about an icon in the BT phone app on the screen, the icon to the right of APPS) a few times to switch from phone to the car even though on the phone it was showing call-audio-mic send-receive via the BT.

Thanks for the update on Android calling.
My V2 unit will be shipped at the end of the week. I'm sure all the fun will start then. The major problem I see with my car is to get the wiring harness to go under the Command unit. Not much room there.
Did manage to get more info regarding the two Antennas. They are cellular not WiFi. These are the Bands for 4G LTE with the V2 Sim slot:
B1 B3 B7 B9 B19 B40 and B41. T-Mobile uses B1. Worth putting a SIM in to see if it works?

Skeechan 08-14-2018 05:14 PM

TMo USA doesn't use B1, according to TMo Those bands in the V2 are all Asia-centric bands not used in North America.

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988

As for the antennas, it sure looks to me like 1 GPS 2 WiFi and the included antennas, generic WiFi antennas. Websites that show pictures of the components, also identify those antennas and being ext Wifi antennas. The mobile antenna is internal.

dineshh 08-14-2018 07:11 PM

The document I read this morning said it did. according to the T-Mo link, looks like we are out of luck. The bottom line is, we don't need the two Antennas or the speaker connected then.

Skeechan 08-14-2018 07:32 PM

I did the WiFi antennas just because it was easy and I have 150Mb service with T-Mobile, but not the speaker.

t895zx 08-14-2018 10:13 PM

Very dim factory image from the 10.25 display
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...601fc09c46.jpg
Hello all,

I have finished up installing the 10.25 Android display screen. So far everything seems to work relatively well and as expected.
One major item I have noticed is that my factory COMAND system when displayed on the 10.25 screen, everything from system settings to the 360 panoramic view, to the backup camera are extremely dim. It is so dim that the backup camera is unusable in the daytime.
Are there cables like the AB and A cables that might need to get swapped around? All of the settings within COMAND have the brightness settings to maximum, the regular 10.25 display is bright, vivid and works great.

Any ideas?

Skeechan 08-14-2018 10:25 PM

You probably need to change the display mode. Default is 2 but some needed to change it to 4. It is mentioned earlier in the thread.

Actually I think it is called Screen Parameters and it is in the car setup menu to the right of apps, bluetooth, etc but left of driving computer (if memory serves). It might be a hidden menu item.

dineshh 08-15-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7528931)
I did the WiFi antennas just because it was easy and I have 150Mb service with T-Mobile, but not the speaker.

Since, you had no issues with Android calling, the speaker may be another item we can leave off. I'm trying to avoid anything extra as on my GLA, I'm very limited to extra space.

t895zx 08-15-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7529046)
You probably need to change the display mode. Default is 2 but some needed to change it to 4. It is mentioned earlier in the thread.

Actually I think it is called Screen Parameters and it is in the car setup menu to the right of apps, bluetooth, etc but left of driving computer (if memory serves). It might be a hidden menu item.

Thanks Skeechan, so far as you can tell my AB and A connectors are likely correct since my native 10.25 resolution and screen brightness is great?

I'll update once i try various different screen settings as suggested. I believe i saw those settings under the 'hidden'/restricted settings in the past.

Skeechan 08-15-2018 03:33 PM

Then I would check Car Settings, in the main screen car setting app to the right of apps. I looked today and it was called screen resolution on V2. If it is in the hidden menu, you get the hidden menu by pressing an holding the first selection in the car settings screen. Then while holding it, you will see 2 other menu options appear. There you get the backup camera type, how your AUX inputs are setup, etc. In there is the screen resolution setting. The only way to know which is best is to just try all the settings. The default was 2 and it turned out for my NTG4 unit, 2 was best. But choosing other items did give me ill-effects like dimming of the comand screen, fuzzyness, screen being too big or small for the window or just black (no comand appearing at all). The AB-A or B for me was about the comand dial controlling stuff. Since you said that works fine, then your setup is fine and you just get into that hidden menu and try changing 2 or 4 or something.

iamthe0ne23 08-15-2018 10:50 PM

Anyone upgraded from the v1 to the v2 here? Is the existing harness reusable or am I going to have to tear the old stuff out?

dacia 08-16-2018 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by dineshh (Post 7528809)
Thanks for the update on Android calling.
My V2 unit will be shipped at the end of the week. I'm sure all the fun will start then. The major problem I see with my car is to get the wiring harness to go under the Command unit. Not much room there.

I am not sure about the GLA but on the W212, E-class if you remove the glove box there is a lot of room there to put the cables in.
At least that's what a poster stated a couple of pages back, might wanna take a look..

t895zx 08-16-2018 01:35 AM

AMG Boot Logo
 
I was wondering if any of you that have the 10.25 head unit would be able to post the animated AMG Boot Logo?

I've contacted all of the sources I purchased the unit from but no responses. (Cue the sadness music)

On the same topic, have you guys seen any other amazing boot screen or customizations to the 10.25 screen?

t895zx 08-16-2018 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7529676)
Then I would check Car Settings, in the main screen car setting app to the right of apps. I looked today and it was called screen resolution on V2. If it is in the hidden menu, you get the hidden menu by pressing an holding the first selection in the car settings screen. Then while holding it, you will see 2 other menu options appear. There you get the backup camera type, how your AUX inputs are setup, etc. In there is the screen resolution setting. The only way to know which is best is to just try all the settings. The default was 2 and it turned out for my NTG4 unit, 2 was best. But choosing other items did give me ill-effects like dimming of the comand screen, fuzzyness, screen being too big or small for the window or just black (no comand appearing at all). The AB-A or B for me was about the comand dial controlling stuff. Since you said that works fine, then your setup is fine and you just get into that hidden menu and try changing 2 or 4 or something.

I can confirm on a w212 2014 AMG E63 S that channel 2 works freakin' amazing. I can now use my 360 panoramic camera again, it's like a new car.

The next project is to see if it is possible to record 360 cam cam footage. I am going to try installing some cam software on the 10.25 screen that records everything displayed on the Android.

In theory if I make the 360 cam full screen and record everything displayed on the Android in theory we should have ghetto recording. TBD still though.

Sly_North 08-16-2018 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by t895zx (Post 7530050)
I was wondering if any of you that have the 10.25 head unit would be able to post the animated AMG Boot Logo?

It seems to be the animation from 0:15 to 0:38 in this YouTube video:
Btw you'd see it only when the car hasn't been started recently.

Skeechan 08-16-2018 07:38 AM

I have tried accessing the PW protected menus, like boot screen selection, but none of the passwords in this thread have worked for me on my V2. I am looking forward to a V3. I saw an android setup for the 211 cars running 8.1 and they have way more features like split screen support. Split screen is one features I wish the V2 had. Its aspect ratio would be perfect for it. OLED would be nice too, but it would triple the price.

iconoclast 08-16-2018 09:34 AM

Any issues with Sirius/XM or Traffic & Weather updates? Have they found a solution for MPH displays instead of KM?

Skeechan 08-16-2018 09:46 AM

Comand is left fully intact with this setup. V2 has MPH support. Temp also has Fahrenheit support although it is still sampling in integer C so the F displays in the V2 are always non-integer, EG 82.4F instead of just 82F.

As for satellite, I just switched to the SiriusXM app and for navi use Waze. Of course this requires tethering to a phone. Tethering opens up a whole world. When I am in the USA, I run Twitch for Bubba the Love Sponge during my morning commute (but there is SiriusXM app, iHeartradio Auto, Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music, Youtube, Youtube Music, even Hulu works).

t895zx 08-16-2018 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7530089)
It seems to be the animation from 0:15 to 0:38 in this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/SYQGbnDzc9M?t=17
Btw you'd see it only when the car hasn't been started recently.

I'm more so looking to acquire the actual bootlogo.zip that has the AMG logo. My unit shipped with the just Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac, etc. logos but no AMG.

I would like to download the AMG bootlogo.zip copy it to a usb stick, and attach it to my unit and then proceed to change the logo. Does anyone have a copy of the bootlogo for AMG or other cool logos?

AfterMarket 08-17-2018 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7522448)
Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

I use Tasker with the plugin "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control" in the app store on my S9 and it works. I have a profile for the Comand Bluetooth connection that triggers a task to turn on tethering using that plug in. Works for my S9; hope it works for S8 also.​​​​​

Skeechan 08-17-2018 08:40 AM

Are you rooted? These 8+ tethering turn on things all seem to require a rooted device in order to function.

t895zx 08-17-2018 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7531099)
I use Tasker with the plugin "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control" in the app store on my S9 and it works. I have a profile for the Comand Bluetooth connection that triggers a task to turn on tethering using that plug in. Works for my S9; hope it works for S8 also.

I did a relatively easy workaround if you on an Android phone. Download the application called Automate, there is an in-car hotspot automation already pre-created that you can download as a plugin.

All you need to do is configure the plugin that whenever your phone connects to the 10.25 Bluetooth connection to automatically enable your WiFi hotspot and have the 10.25 display configured to auto connect to your phone's Wifi hotspot. No root required.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7952484900.png
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d514b62e52.png

Skeechan 08-17-2018 08:05 PM

Automate did not work for me in 8.0. None of these apps will turn on the hotspot. They all fail on permissions problems (tether_privileged) that are only solved by rooting.

Sly_North 08-18-2018 02:47 PM

If you ever got an issue with the tablet's music and sound cutting after about 20 seconds: make sure that in your Audio20, the option to play music randomly across all medias is off. I'm not sure how it got turned on, but my stupid Audio20 would switch to the (navigation) SD card, found no music, then just stay there forever instead of switching back to the USB AUX.

t895zx 08-18-2018 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7531678)
Automate did not work for me in 8.0. None of these apps will turn on the hotspot. They all fail on permissions problems (tether_privileged) that are only solved by rooting.

There are a few 'gotchas' with Android Oreo and Pie versions to allow the automations to execute flawlessly.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b9c68cfa7c.png
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d683868236.png

Ensure you have your 10.25 tablet selected as the Bluetooth device to connect to, so that the hotspot will be enabled
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...741b65c54b.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cd0ed5a510.png

Select this part of the flow in Automate for the Bluetooth automation called "In car hotspot" as the flow.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f75dee02e5.png

Do you have hotspot in your quick settings?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a2911d1d43.png

Do you have the appropriate permissions set in the Automate application?


1. In order to turn the hotspot on and off in Android Oreo+, the hotspot tile MUST be present in the quick settings. To see if it is, expand the status by swiping down twice. If the hotspot tile isn't present, tape the edit/pen icon, then drag the title to add it.
2. You must also set the 10.25" screen's Bluetooth connection as a Trusted Device. Navigate to Settings/Security & Location/Smart Lock/Trusted Devices and add it accordingly.
3. Within the Automate application you must authorize Automate to MODIFY SYSTEM SETTINGS with the checkbox, under Privileges, without this it is unable to perform the actions.



2 EURO 08-19-2018 12:06 AM

Wow... very informative thread for the android upgrade.

Questions...
has the gps officially been rectified? I still see a few post saying people couldn’t get their gps to work. That’s a must for me. Is the gps antenna having a hard time picking up signal? Are you guys just hotspoting to get gps to work?

the audio switching... has this been also been fixed?

Lastly, is it best to just get the car play module so that you can just mirror your phone?

thx

amgggg... 08-20-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by t895zx (Post 7530927)
I'm more so looking to acquire the actual bootlogo.zip that has the AMG logo. My unit shipped with the just Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac, etc. logos but no AMG.

I would like to download the AMG bootlogo.zip copy it to a usb stick, and attach it to my unit and then proceed to change the logo. Does anyone have a copy of the bootlogo for AMG or other cool logos?

Voila...AMG logo file

t895zx 08-21-2018 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by amgggg... (Post 7533447)
Voila...AMG logo file

You are the man! This is freakin' awesome, it's the little things like this in life that make me smile.

Pew, Pew, pew, freakin' lasers!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc02a96c4c.png

t895zx 08-21-2018 01:06 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bba8b3e0d0.png

My life is now complete

amgggg... 08-21-2018 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7531678)
Automate did not work for me in 8.0. None of these apps will turn on the hotspot. They all fail on permissions problems (tether_privileged) that are only solved by rooting.

I don't get it...the Hot Spot Starter app works flawlessly for me on Android 8.1.0 :nix:

400ixl 08-21-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by AfterMarket (Post 7531099)
I use Tasker with the plugin "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control" in the app store on my S9 and it works. I have a profile for the Comand Bluetooth connection that triggers a task to turn on tethering using that plug in. Works for my S9; hope it works for S8 also.​​​​​

Just tested Tasker with my Nexus 6P running 8.1.0 and it works fine (if you OK the prompt to allow system settings to be changed) when creating the task to turn on tethering. This is on what is a freshly built factory image with no root.

I know some US carriers modify the build to block tethering being enabled, maybe that is the issue.

Momodatx 08-21-2018 11:14 AM

Static and video not playing
 
Hi guys, I just installed this unit on my 2015 GLK350. Mine is with 2GB ram and Android 7.1.1. However I do notice an annoying humming static noise whenever I hook up the AUX cable.

Also I am unable to play video as the screen shows “Do not operate while driving”:nix: I guess this is a setting issue but I couldn’t figure out where.

Does anybody know how to resolve those two issues? Besides that I’m happy with the unit. Thank you guys in advance.

2 EURO 08-21-2018 05:29 PM

I'm considering this upgrade. Can I get more information on the following questions....?

Has the GPS officially been rectified? I still see a few posts saying people couldn’t get their GPS to work. That’s a must for me. Is the GPS antenna having a hard time picking up a signal? Are you guys just hot spotting to get GPS to work?

The audio switching, has this also been fixed?

Lastly, is it best to just get the car play module so that you can just mirror your iPhone?

Thx!

dacia 08-22-2018 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by 2 EURO (Post 7534814)
I'm considering this upgrade. Can I get more information on the following questions....?

Has the GPS officially been rectified? I still see a few posts saying people couldn’t get their GPS to work. That’s a must for me. Is the GPS antenna having a hard time picking up a signal? Are you guys just hot spotting to get GPS to work?

The audio switching, has this also been fixed?

Lastly, is it best to just get the car play module so that you can just mirror your iPhone?

Thx!

I know it's a long thread but the answers to your questions are there in the last few pages.
Yes, GPS works fine as long as you place the receiver on top, directly under the dash (you can use two sided tape) away from cables and metal parts.
You can also tether the iPhone.

400ixl 08-23-2018 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Momodatx (Post 7534370)
Hi guys, I just installed this unit on my 2015 GLK350. Mine is with 2GB ram and Android 7.1.1. However I do notice an annoying humming static noise whenever I hook up the AUX cable.

You may need a 3.5 mm Jack Ground Loop Isolator if you can't find the source of the interference. Cheap enough to buy.

Skeechan 08-23-2018 09:41 AM

Darn it, my V2 did it to me again. Got in the car this morning and was met with the Android Starting, optimizing apps, then something about processing an update and BAM, all my settings and apps are gone and the unit is back at a factory state. This is the second time it has done this and it is extremely annoying. Re-downloading all my apps and getting them logged back in and all of that is tedious. WTF?

huewish 08-23-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7536409)
Darn it, my V2 did it to me again. Got in the car this morning and was met with the Android Starting, optimizing apps, then something about processing an update and BAM, all my settings and apps are gone and the unit is back at a factory state. This is the second time it has done this and it is extremely annoying. Re-downloading all my apps and getting them logged back in and all of that is tedious. WTF?

Is it possible to back up the unit to Google so that you can simply restore it?

Skeechan 08-23-2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by huewish (Post 7536494)
Is it possible to back up the unit to Google so that you can simply restore it?

Even if, still have to redownload everything and reset up each of the app accounts. Would prefer the V2 not format itself every 2 weeks. I need to figure out what is causing these factory resets.

Heisenberg5070 08-23-2018 02:27 PM

Has anyone been able to install a front facing camera w this or do we still need a interface for that to happen

dacia 08-24-2018 12:53 AM

Could someone tell me if is still possible to use the COMAND DVD player and watch videos either on the big screen or on the small OEM screen?
Thanks.

ItchyTasty 08-24-2018 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7536409)
Darn it, my V2 did it to me again. Got in the car this morning and was met with the Android Starting, optimizing apps, then something about processing an update and BAM, all my settings and apps are gone and the unit is back at a factory state. This is the second time it has done this and it is extremely annoying. Re-downloading all my apps and getting them logged back in and all of that is tedious. WTF?

damn. this is concerning enough to give me pause on buying this. anyone else having the same issue?

Skeechan 08-24-2018 11:36 AM

Even with the quirks, this V2 is just so awesome that I would NEVER give it up, and I have had the worst install experience of anyone in the thread, by far, and I am still stoked on the V2.

It is so superior to the NTG4 and all of those limitations that dealing with an occasional V2 bug is worth it a million times over. Today I was streaming HD+zoomed youtube music videos and the sound was great. FLAC sounds even more amazing. I use VLC to stream concert videos too, plus Carplay support with the USB adapter, SiriusXM app (with its more channels and portability), Apple Music, TV channels (I listen to the audio during commutes), iHeartRadio and especially Waze navigation...I save more time using waze and its suprior traffic routing than I ever would spend dealing with these occasional V2 quirks. And then the interest. Everyone who sees it, especially people with W212s are shocked that such a thing even exists.

Is it perfect? No. Is it all kinds of epic and awesome? Hell yes. After using it daily for a few weeks now do I recommend it even having had the worst install trouble that Chris at CKM got me through, no problem. 1000%! Even now, I email Chris from time to time asking about this feature or that feature and he provides great support. I am discovering new capabilities of this thing every few days.

I will say finally, and it is almost funny, I was VERY close to trading in my W212 for a new mediocre car as mine now has 114K miles, I had a tear in my seat, I hated the NTG4, HATED it, etc, I was so bored. The V2 changed that. After installing the V2, I bought new 19" wheels, got it lowered, got the seat fixed as good as new for, it turned out, cheap, tossed in a HID kit, installed the optional AMG clear tail lights, clear side markers...I am just pumped on my car again. Even today, I am working with Chris on installing a retrofit color IC in my 2011. At this rate, I will NEVER get rid of this car. It is more new to me than the day I got it. And it all started with the V2.

LemonSqueezy 08-24-2018 12:06 PM

That's pretty awesome to hear someone so stoked about this unit. All I'm wondering here is if they'll ever add android auto.

ItchyTasty 08-24-2018 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7537464)
That's pretty awesome to hear someone so stoked about this unit. All I'm wondering here is if they'll ever add android auto.

Can't you just download the app from the play store and run it?

LemonSqueezy 08-24-2018 12:34 PM

Well actually theres a list of things I'd like to see confirmed to be addressed before I decide to chuck another $600 into a new unit. Like from post #471, option to dim, phone mirroring not working with my Samsung galaxy note 8 etc

LemonSqueezy 08-24-2018 12:36 PM

Also I dont think android auto is compatible with v1 unit

Skeechan 08-24-2018 01:41 PM

Lemon,

My V2 does have a brightness setting with a night mode with its own brightness setting and it works. Seems to be tied to my automatic headlights. Default is set to highest which is 6 during the day and default is 1/2 brightness or 3 at night but I use the lowest setting at night. Night mode in Apple Carplay with the USB adapter is manual only. You have to go into Carplay settings once carplay is started and manually turn on night mode, but Android itself will dim at night when the lights are on.

Phone screen mirroring works for me both with my Galaxy S8 and my iPhone although I dont use it. Phone calling does work with my iPhone but I am not used to the setup and find it has a bit of a learning curve. But the internal mic was good for hands free phone and audio output was through the car speakers.

Skeechan 08-24-2018 01:57 PM

Went back to the old post Lemon

1. Is audio switching working consistently? This seems to only work once during first boot. If you go back to OEM radio and listen to radio, the next time you launch for example youtube or google music, the sound will not auto switch so you need to go back to OEM radio and switch it to AUX.

No. It auto switches to AUX but doesn't switch back to COMAND when you swap screen. Many people report even then, it will only switch to AUX once, but in my case if I am back in COMAND again and switch back to Android, it WILL switch but takes forever so I never wait for it. But honestly, I never use my NTG4 anymore so this doesn't bother me. I use iHeartRadio or other apps instead of AM/FM these days.

2. Is mirroring finally working with Samsung phones?

Mirroring worked fine for me both in my Galaxy S8 and iPhone 8 Plus. Of course it is scaled, but does work.

3. Is the car image on the main screen still of a CLA or does it now corresponds to your car model?

You can chose from different boddy types in the menu settings, but sedan on mine looks like a facelift W212.

4. Is there now auto dimming? If not, does the brightness at least have a far better brightness (a little harder to see display during daytime on mine) And is the adjustment easier to access now? A quick toggle for brightness maybe?

There is auto dimming on my V2 tied to the automatic headlights. And there are brightness settings for both day mode and night mode. Brightness during the day seems fine to me unless the unit is in direct sunlight, then it is like looking at an ipad when outside. There is no fix for that other than OLED, a shield or possibly a non-glare screen skin like those available for iPads.

5. Is there split screen mode (display 2 apps at the same time)? This is an android 7 feature.

Nope, although I saw units for previous generation cars running Android 8 that did have split screen. So if there is a V3 in the works, it might appear, but right now, no. I have looked and see no provision for that.

6. When using the phone app, is it still only outputting on the left speaker?

Worked from all speakers in my V2

7. Is bluetooth streaming consistent? On my phone, I only got it to work once on mine

BT streaming is fine with my iPhone although I tether instead and run apps straight off the V2.

8. Is the GPS stronger?

It works fine, but requires proper antenna positioning under the dash and making sure that the other wires, WiFi antennas, harness and everything else do not end up flopping on top of the antenna when you stuff everything in.

9. I see there is now a recent app button on the top right of the screen. Will this allow you to close apps? This would be good for freeing up ram when the device starts to slow down due to too many apps open.

Yes, that button is the same app swap button as in regular Android mobile units. You can swap apps, close individual apps, or close all running user apps. This is separate from services, this is just the regular running open apps like when you use that same button on your phone.

10. Is the selection list in the mainscreen configurable? I want to add additional apps to this so I don't always have go to the apps list to search for my go to apps.

Chris at CKM says there is a way to do it, but I did not actually follow up and find out how. For Navigation though, there is a File Path setting to allow you to make Navi link to whatever app you want. I have mine linked to Waze. But there is no similar filepath setting for Audio and Video apps, at least in the settings. There might be a hidden menu or hack to create new Filepaths, but you would have to ask Chris how he does it.

11. Are the apps in the apps list auto rearranging? I notice this on mine when I go to the apps list, the first 8 apps is always changing order.

Yes, at reboot, the apps list resorts alphabetically automatically. So when you first install an app, it is at the end but after reboot, they get resorted.

12. Is the USB still low powered and support hot swap? I notice on mine it won't recognize anything I plug into the usb unless I restart the unit. It seems it will only recognize what's plugged into the usb during boot up.

I was able to hot swap SDcards and I didn't even bother dismounting them first, but I have not tried hot swapping anything else. I can plug in my iPhone and remove it and put it back and I can always go back and start the carplay app, no problem. But other USB devices, I am not sure. I tried hanging a lower power 2TB HDD and it crashed my V2 pretty hard at boot, although if I waited until boot and then plugged it in, the drive mounted. I ended up just running 200GB micro SD cards instead.

Skeechan 08-24-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7537489)
Can't you just download the app from the play store and run it?

Android auto works. For other apps, Netflix reports that it is not compatible with that Android build for some reason but nearly every other app I have tried worked. Here is a list of apps I have personally tried

Hulu Works perfect
Netflix Reports not compatible in the store so you cant download it. You might be able to sideload it.
AT&T U-Verse TV - Installs and runs, but fails authentication when trying to pay a live program as if the AT&T app detects the V2 is rooted or something
Youtube - Amazing and includes zoom so if you do not mind cropping the top and bottom you can run full screen
VLC - Works great including full screen. I play 1080P bluray rips of concerts in .TS no problem. Also plays FLAC audio but it is not a good jukebox app
Youtube Music - Works great, but no full screen (cropping top and bottom), only best fit
HBOGo - Works
Showtime Anytime - Works
iHeartRadio and iHeartRadio Auto - Works
Apple Music - Works (but tricky to log in as the screen resolution hides the log in lines so it appears that clicking log in does nothing)
SiriusXM App - Works although the resolution vertically is short making it not show all the cool channel logos and stuff
Twitch TV - Works perfect, watch (well listen to) Bubba the Love Sponge on my morning commute every day
Waze - Works perfect
Fox News App - Works, but not realiable
CNN News App - Works but not reliable, video streaming keeps pausing for some reason after a few minutes
Google Chrome - Works great although some modal windows from websites are bigger than the screen resolution and there is no zooming of websites like chrome has in its other mobile builds so I can't pinch and zoom sites to make them bigger or smaller.

Carplay works normally except night mode is manual only. It does not run reliable as a background app, meaning trying to use Carplay to play apple music and then swap out of Carplay while still playing Apple music to run Android navigation. After a minute or so, Apple Music will pause. I use Apple Music for Android. Carplay is reliable for me only if I use it as intended.

I run all of these by tethering to an iPhone 8 running on T-Mobile in the USA.

Skeechan 08-24-2018 03:00 PM

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I installed the Android Auto app directly into the V2 and connected to my Galaxy S8 using direct USB and after it installed Google app (for OK Google), speech to text something, and Google maps, Android auto worked fine including hands free OK Google. With Auto open I asked OK Google, give me directions to Blah blah and it opened Google Maps and started navigation. I did not need to press any buttons for OK Google.

I did not try Google Music, messaging or phone, but it sure looked like it was working as expected with no quirks at all.


Anthony199 08-24-2018 07:55 PM

Glad to see that waze is running really well on v2, but i was wondering if you guys the it in online or offline mode?

Skeechan 08-24-2018 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Anthony199 (Post 7537885)
Glad to see that waze is running really well on v2, but i was wondering if you guys the it in online or offline mode?

Waze works in both, but you only get the dynamic routing and live traffic if you are tethered.

Anthony199 08-24-2018 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7537932)
Waze works in both, but you only get the dynamic routing and live traffic if you are tethered.

Oh okay makes sense. I really need to hit the right spot when positioning the antenna tho right?

Skeechan 08-24-2018 09:56 PM

I opened the GPS test app when positioning my antenna and when I found a good spot, stuck it down with double back velcro tape.

Skeechan 08-25-2018 12:00 AM

iOS 12 is supposed to bring Waze and more 3rd party apps to Carplay, eliminating the need to use tethering data (for Waze anyway). It is a possible solution if you want to run Waze but are on a limited tethering plan. I have unlimited tethering so I am beating T-Mobile pretty hard constantly tethering HD video.

Anthony199 08-25-2018 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7538053)
iOS 12 is supposed to bring Waze and more 3rd party apps to Carplay, eliminating the need to use tethering data (for Waze anyway). It is a possible solution if you want to run Waze but are on a limited tethering plan. I have unlimited tethering so I am beating T-Mobile pretty hard constantly tethering HD video.

What about android auto? Do these apps work well too?

Skeechan 08-25-2018 12:06 AM

I had never used Android Auto until today (I use my S8 really only for GearVR) but Android Auto seemed to work fine. It showed options for both Google Maps and Waze although I only tested Google Maps with Android Auto. There is no indication of any kind of problem with Android Auto. OK Google worked great too...hands free.

Skeechan 08-25-2018 12:08 AM

Oh and there was a few audio app options too since I had those on that S8, like iHeartradio.

LemonSqueezy 08-25-2018 12:13 AM

Skeechan thanks for the info on v2. Is your unit rooted or just running it out the box?

Anthony199 08-25-2018 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by LemonSqueezy (Post 7538061)
Skeechan thanks for the info on v2. Is your unit rooted or just running it out the box?

Actually what is the benefit of rooting the unit?

Skeechan 08-25-2018 12:40 AM

I downloaded one of those check root apps and it said no. But my AT&T TV app gives an authentication error and the most common cause for that is running on a rooted or JBed device so I can’t say for 100% that it is not rooted but I don’t think so.

Skeechan 08-25-2018 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by Anthony199 (Post 7538068)
Actually what is the benefit of rooting the unit?

Custom roms, getting rid of custom apps (like the crap ware on Samsung phones), full customization of the device, bypass permissions that may be set by the manufacturer, possibly overclocking, it basically unlocks the software so you can, with skill, change anything you want.

like if this V2 has video in motion locked out, which it doesn’t, but if it did, if you rooted you could change that.


aznmode 08-25-2018 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7537570)
Lemon,

My V2 does have a brightness setting with a night mode with its own brightness setting and it works. Seems to be tied to my automatic headlights. Default is set to highest which is 6 during the day and default is 1/2 brightness or 3 at night but I use the lowest setting at night. Night mode in Apple Carplay with the USB adapter is manual only. You have to go into Carplay settings once carplay is started and manually turn on night mode, but Android itself will dim at night when the lights are on.

Phone screen mirroring works for me both with my Galaxy S8 and my iPhone although I dont use it. Phone calling does work with my iPhone but I am not used to the setup and find it has a bit of a learning curve. But the internal mic was good for hands free phone and audio output was through the car speakers.

Damn it. I've been hoping mirroring to work on Samsung. I might have to upgrade now

Skeechan 08-26-2018 12:05 PM

Mirroring works, but as I said, it is scaled so it is not like it is razor sharp. The S8 aspect ratio is pretty good with the mirroring though, but really, there is little I can use mirroring for that I can't just download the app from the G Play store. As a result, I never use mirroring.

aznmode 08-26-2018 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7538739)
Mirroring works, but as I said, it is scaled so it is not like it is razor sharp. The S8 aspect ratio is pretty good with the mirroring though, but really, there is little I can use mirroring for that I can't just download the app from the G Play store. As a result, I never use mirroring.

Good point about the aspect ratio and just download app to the screen. Other reason I'd want to mirror is if I run out of tethering data then I can project my phone to the screen to let's say watch YouTube

aznmode 08-27-2018 12:05 AM

Well looks like mirroring works on the Samsung note 9 on v1. It wouldn't pop up to install MOB interconnection app but was able to find it on my play store to install on the note. Launched the app and it connected.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...onn.carman.wws

Another cool factor is you can use the android screen to navigate your phone. Only issue is the audio comes out of your phone so you need to use the AUX.

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e55bih 08-27-2018 02:10 AM

Looking to purchase
 
I’m looking to purchase one of these units for my 2015 e63-s. Does it support or have apple car play?

Skeechan 08-27-2018 08:43 AM

CarPlay requires a USB adapter and host app. Android auto is supported by downloading the Android Auto app onto the V2.

waleed-911 08-28-2018 01:14 PM

can you help please
 

Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7413585)
In case anyone in interested, here are a few things I learned along the way to bloody knuckles, lots of cussing, and the final install.

1-my unit didn’t come with the red/white aux cables that are shown in the diy videos. The videos shows the cables in connected pairs. Turns out you don’t need them. Just connect the 3.5mm cable to the aux input in your armrest.
2-One thing the videos don’t tell you is that you have to remove half of the damn interior to run cables. I refused to do this so I was able to MacGuyver a few things as to not remove anything other than the dash trim and head unit.
3- run the usb connector over to the space above the glovebox. Do this buy snaking it thru behind the center vents and into a small opening into the area. Take your right arm and stick it thru the passenger side vent opening and pull the usb connector thru. You may need a hanger or pick tool to reach it. Buy a usb extender cable ($5) and stick it thru a small square hole in the roof of the inner lining of the glovebox, reach for it with your arm thru the vent again. Once you have both cables near the vent, connect them. Voila, the new usb plug should now be sitting comfortably in your glove box. My cable is 6 ft so I can comfortably pull it out to plug into anything/anytime. You can tuck the excess cable up into the crevice if you don’t need all the slack.
4-buy yourself a small right angle socket wrench ($3) to remove head unit screws. It’ll save you a lot of patience and yelling if your hands are larger like mine when loose mining head unit screws.
5-when you plug in the quad connector to the back of your head unit, really stick it in there. Don’t be afraid to really shove it in. You won’t break it. It wasn’t until I almost thought I’d break it that the contacts fit snugly and passed the video thru for the OEM screen and fictions. I took me 4 hours of yelling to figure this out.
6-you’re also supposed to somehow run the god antenna up your side pillar and over to where your mirror is. That’s crazy. I just plugged it in and shoved it into the new void left by the old screen. You have plenty of space there with the new mounting face. Mine works perfectly and doesn’t drop signal off when I’m driving and I live in Los Angeles.
7-since I didn’t remove the center console to run the aux cable...’cause that’s crazy, I dropped the aux cable down the passenger side wall and down to where glovebox trim meets side console wall. If you pull very carefully you can slide the cable out thru there. Then simply tuck it along the bottom of the center console side trim. A very simple push with our finger will hide he cable. Then run it up and into the armrest once it gets to the rear of the armrest. It’s pretty invisible without the need to take apart your interior.
8-perhaps the toughest part I encountered...sliding the head unit back in. Thanks to a tip for deepthoughts66 I was able to slide it in after 4 days of pushing, shoving and bloody knuckles.

Screen looks amazing and sounds great. I haven’t done any mods to the system per than download Spotify. Don’t forget to access the secret menu in settings by tapping at the top 4 times. Select your OEM version and select Aux.

I’ve included some dirty daytime pics so you guys can see what it looks like. I also included some gratuitous pics of the plastidipped grill and red calipers.

Let me know if you have any questions and I’ll be happy to help you avoid the mistakes I made in trying to figure this out.

Total install time with aggravation and bloody knuckles: 20 hours.

Actual time it should have taken with better instructions and no self inflicted mistakes: 20 minutes.

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i have those 2 wire comes from original screen, i only use blue one , right?!
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check please, because i am trying to show any thing from screen, but it shows black ( nothing shows at all after install all wire. can you help ( for.911@hotmail.com )
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what will do for those?!
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waleed-911 08-28-2018 02:02 PM

wire check
 

Originally Posted by Avilly (Post 7408587)
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I couldn’t figure out how to get the head unit back in with all the cabling either. I had to drive to work to day with my head unit sticking out about 2 inches and the vent trim just loosely placed. See pic. It looks embarrassing. all the DIY videos show the head unit just slipping right in. Anyone have suggestions?

I did run the USB cable up and into the glovebox space adjacent to the vents. I still have to removed the glovebox upper lining to pull it thru. There are a few small openings in the upper lining of the glovebox and I can feel it with my finger. I probably won’t get to this for another few weeks due to time.

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Hi there, check please if you have all same wire which you have?! i have same car and i thought something missing, my screen not showing anything after installing
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Splise 08-28-2018 05:44 PM

Hi all. I have a couple questions if someone is able to assist? Regarding the 3.5mm aux input used by the Android unit. Is there a 3.5mm on the Android unit itself? I ask because the 3.5mm input for the COMAND unit will be used by the Android screen itself, leaving no input for any other devices. I bought a 3.5mm splitter just in case, but thought I would ask in case I am missing something?

I also have a similar question regarding the GPS fakra connection. Can I split the factory GPS to both the COMAND unit and the Android unit? I bought a splitter for that as well, but I am curious is anyone has had any success with it?

And finally, do I need the two pin speaker that's included in the box? I know someone had asked a similar question, but I can't find it now.

Skeechan 08-28-2018 06:42 PM

The Android unit occupies the AUX 3.5 MMI input. I would not bother messing with GPS as you might mess of the gain of the COMAND system. The included GPS antenna works fine if properly positioned under the dash. You do not need the speaker thing. mic is built into the V2 and audio is through car audio (via AUX). You can connect other items to the V2 using BT audio or USB (2 USB ports are included, plus there is onboard MicroSD slot. There are some RCA connectors built into the hardness but I am not sure if they are general inputs or meant for cameras. There appears to be RCA audio (but I never bothered trying it and did not see any setting regarding AUX in with the V2).

Splise 08-28-2018 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7540814)
The Android unit occupies the AUX 3.5 MMI input. I would not bother messing with GPS as you might mess of the gain of the COMAND system. The included GPS antenna works fine if properly positioned under the dash. You do not need the speaker thing. mic is built into the V2 and audio is through car audio (via AUX). You can connect other items to the V2 using BT audio or USB (2 USB ports are included, plus there is onboard MicroSD slot. There are some RCA connectors built into the hardness but I am not sure if they are general inputs or meant for cameras. There appears to be RCA audio (but I never bothered trying it and did not see any setting regarding AUX in with the V2).

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Good point regarding the gain on the GPS antenna, I may end up trying to get it routed up to my rear view mirror if the signal isn't sufficient. I use a portable DAC to convert the FLAC I have on my phone (or other device) to an analog signal, so it would be nice to have a 3.5mm input to use. I am not a huge fan of the 3.5mm aux splitter, but it appears that may be the only option?

Skeechan 08-28-2018 08:50 PM

The built in media player has native FLAC support plus you can download whatever you want using the google play store. I have FLAC plus ts Blu-ray tips and all play fine.

Chris The Swede 08-29-2018 08:32 AM

FINALLY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So frustrating sitting here reading all and not be able to answer. I have NO CLUE what so ever why they banned me??? I advertise no where and I am very carefull with that. Never a link posted to my webstore. And I can not contact them and ask why or explain if a mistake is done They just freeze you out with no options at all!!!

Skeechan 08-29-2018 09:04 AM

Welcome back!

etian 08-29-2018 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7537592)

6. When using the phone app, is it still only outputting on the left speaker?

Worked from all speakers in my V2

Hello Skeechan. I have the problem with waze who's still outputting on the front left speaker. Any advice ?

Skeechan 08-29-2018 04:05 PM

I have no problem with waking now and phone is all speakers. Not sure why you would have only one side.

etian 08-29-2018 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7541612)
I have no problem with waking now and phone is all speakers. Not sure why you would have only one side.

sorry. its with waze the problem not with wake

Skeechan 08-29-2018 04:17 PM

My waze works fine. Unthethered you only get map and routing, but not dynamic routing and traffic. It works fine on mine including automatic muting of entertainment while speaking alerts/directions. I have never had the one speaker problem with Waze or phone.

If you have not checked already, check auto playback of other V2 functions to make sure everything is not left side like the AUX input is not plugged in all the or something. It should be either everything audio on the V2 works or none of it does.

Skeechan 08-29-2018 04:18 PM

Like load a music file on the V2 and make sure it plays out all speakers.

etian 08-29-2018 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7541627)
Like load a music file on the V2 and make sure it plays out all speakers.

when I'm using video or music with sample in the V2, everything is ok.
its only with waze

Skeechan 08-29-2018 04:34 PM

If memory serves, in Waze apps there is a setting for audio output, like *phone audio*, Bluetooth, etc. See if you can find that setting in Waze and try the different options.

etian 08-30-2018 12:08 AM

Many thanks. I will tell you

etian 08-30-2018 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7541637)
If memory serves, in Waze apps there is a setting for audio output, like *phone audio*, Bluetooth, etc. See if you can find that setting in Waze and try the different options.

it works. It was in Waze settings ! Many thanks.

bigjule 08-31-2018 05:25 AM

I'm def digging the newer unit but still on the fence on the size of the screen... Anyone in the Philly , south Jersey area have this installed on there 212 ?

Chris The Swede 08-31-2018 05:35 AM

The size is the best thing here..:)

Charlii 08-31-2018 07:20 AM

Is there a new version of aliexp 4 ram android 8! Has anyone bought it?

Autostereo Android 8 Car GPS Navigation Head Unit For MERCEDES-BENZ E220 W212 2009-2016 multimedia radio tape recorder No DVD 9 " Octa core CPU 32GB ROM 4GB RAM

Chris The Swede 08-31-2018 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7543045)
Is there a new version of aliexp 4 ram android 8! Has anyone bought it?

Autostereo Android 8 Car GPS Navigation Head Unit For MERCEDES-BENZ E220 W212 2009-2016 multimedia radio tape recorder No DVD 9 " Octa core CPU 32GB ROM 4GB RAM

I would NOT trust that one...First they write 8 then 7.1 They just dont know wht they sell..

bigjule 08-31-2018 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7543031)
The size is the best thing here..:)

I def see were u coming from BUT it just seems a tad bit like it can be a lil distracting? .. especially at night ... But I mite b totally wrong .. I've looked a bunch of videos of the unit but kind of hard to gauge as most of them are videos showing the unit at close up range ... Just wish the unit was recessed a bit but like I said I mite b wrong... Hence the reason y I would like to see one before I pull the trigger

etian 08-31-2018 09:21 AM

I'm looking for : how to reboot the V2 screen, please.

Sly_North 08-31-2018 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by etian (Post 7543092)
I'm looking for : how to reboot the V2 screen, please.

Switch off the car, open the driver door, restart the car.
Or: paper clip in the top hole on the left.

Splise 08-31-2018 01:21 PM

Does anyone know which Bluetooth version is supported by the Android unit?

Skeechan 08-31-2018 01:38 PM

I cannot find the HW version using built in settings tools. Under BT it is only configuration and BT version is not listed under SW or About Device either. The only BT anything reference I saw is in About Device which shows HMI, MCU, Media and BTV with BTV as BT.18.07.03.0930 which just appears to be a build number. There might be an app in the play store that could dig in and actually fetch HW info from an Android device, but I have not seen one that will report the actual version, best is just BT vs BT LE which for the V2 doesn't matter since it is not running on batteries. It will certainly be at least 2.1 and newer versions are not relevant as they are power saving features or LTE friendly coexistance features or range extending features. It doesn't support BT tethering or anything so the benefits of BT 3 and 4 speed don't help.

What were you looking for?

Charlii 09-01-2018 07:13 AM

I like this display!:вкусно:https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1683573126.jpg

Chris The Swede 09-01-2018 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7543858)

To bad though that it dont work with the old comand and hate the interface.

Charlii 09-02-2018 12:26 PM

News!
http://www.etoni.com.my/products/Mercedes-Benz-Head-unit-upgrade/255

https://youtu.be/5XM4IlyZZ3U

400ixl 09-02-2018 12:57 PM

That home screen UI looks a mess. Nothing shows how it integrates all of the OEM systems, looks like just another cheap Chinese HU.

Sly_North 09-02-2018 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7536409)
Darn it, my V2 did it to me again. Got in the car this morning and was met with the Android Starting, optimizing apps, then something about processing an update and BAM, all my settings and apps are gone and the unit is back at a factory state. This is the second time it has done this and it is extremely annoying. Re-downloading all my apps and getting them logged back in and all of that is tedious. WTF?

Hi, I had twice the "optimizing apps" screen, but it never cleared out my settings. On the other hand my tablet screen doesn't auto-connect to Internet, so maybe you got actual system updates.
In my case, this was caused by shutting down the tablet (when opening the driver door after shutting down the engine) while something was still running: I suspect the power cut is too abrupt, the tablet doesn't have the time to shut down properly; especially if it was writing stuff to its internal storage. It seems closing the heavy apps (the GPS in my case) or waiting a bit prevents it.

Splise 09-02-2018 07:18 PM

This is how I'm driving around now. I've been trying for 4 hours to get the radio back in. Tried tucking the cables under the radio a dozen time and it's not even close. I have a 10.25" brick, haha.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...daf5c46d98.jpg

choitwao 09-02-2018 10:33 PM

Saw this post yesterday and now I'm waiting for the shipment. Luckily I was born and raised in shenzhen so that I can hook up with the factory directly and get a factory price for it (400 shipped), and asked them to customize it for my need (software customization).

I got some info from the factory:
1. this unit has three versions: low end 4 core + 2GB ram, 8 core + 2GB ram, and 8 core + 4GB ram + blue light ISP screen. I got the highest end one.
2. The software part was originally designed and customized for Chinese market. It has 4G Sim card slot by default. In China, you are able to voice control everything with no wifi needed. However the LTE band standard is different outside of China, so the hardware limitation kind of suck.
3. The factory said there should not have any android 7 10.25 unit in the market. If they have competitors making it they should know.
4. Regarding to the Android version, the Android 6 version is fully compatible with the car so that they WONT move to Android 7 at all. The software integration is not version migratable.
5. The unit has built in microphone, and it is a major feature for the Chinese market version. However when they make the Google version they were not able to turn it on for the Google assistant and they don't want to spend much time investing on making a Google one (the demand in China is way bigger than the other countries combined). So they probably stopped developing it. From software perspective, it is totally doable to turn it on with installing Google services and make the Google assistant on in the background.

I will post more when I start installing the unit (latest high end model with 8 core 4GB Android 6 and customized for Google). For the installation, I will also post one on YouTube . In China, the installation is performed mostly by the dealership and it's FREE (included in the price) therefore they don't even bother to make a video. The dealership staff can install the unit within 20 mins. Also if you buy this in China they will video chat 1 to 1 to help you install LOL...
​​



dacia 09-03-2018 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by choitwao (Post 7544931)
3. The factory said there should not have any android 7 10.25 unit in the market. If they have competitors making it they should know.
4. Regarding to the Android version, the Android 6 version is fully compatible with the car so that they WONT move to Android 7 at all. The software integration is not version migratable.​​

This is a little confusing. The V2 version comes with Android 7.1 so I am not sure I understand your post about the screen coming with Android 6.0. Someone would have noticed by now it it wasn't Android 7.1.

Sly_North 09-03-2018 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by choitwao (Post 7544931)
2. The software part was originally designed and customized for Chinese market. It has 4G Sim card slot by default

Thx for the feedacks. I believe the LTE bands are quite similar between China and Europe. Maybe the SIM port won't work only in North America?

400ixl 09-03-2018 04:20 AM

Chinese bands don't work in the UK, or wider Europe as far as I know.

choitwao 09-03-2018 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7545011)
This is a little confusing. The V2 version comes with Android 7.1 so I am not sure I understand your post about the screen coming with Android 6.0. Someone would have noticed by now it it wasn't Android 7.1.

tbh I don't know where those 7.1 or even 8 units come from and I'm being skeptical on them. I searched through the Chinese alibaba variance called Taobao (basically the amazon for Chinese people) and NONE of the products claim they use Android 7.1 kernel. The factory literally told me that the latest one is Android 6 and they never heard of 7.1 exists. For me Android 6 is compatible with Google assisstan and I don't see there is any need for Android 7 especially on a car use tablet device. Another reason why I'm being skeptical is that it doesn't matter where you get the unit (from the Chris guy above or Aliexpress) and how they brand it with different product names, they are most likely built in one or two factories in Shenzhen. That's how the business works in China. If there is 7.1 unit in the market, then all the batches in the market should be 7.1. regardless how they brand it. So few 7.1 with the majority is still 6.0 and 5.1... Just don't make sense to me.

choitwao 09-03-2018 05:35 AM

​​Just for addition just the factory said they don't make 7.1 units doesn't mean no one is doinf it. I think the resellers in NA are capable of upgrading it by themselves if there is a demand out there, and that's definitely possible and doable. But i would be skeptical if it is shipped directly from China.

Chris The Swede 09-03-2018 05:44 AM

"Chris guy form above" here. Our SW team make it to a 7. Wish makes 7 apps apk files possible to install and use.

Skeechan 09-03-2018 11:23 AM

Yeah, my V2 from Chris The Swede not only has Android 7, but the mic works great with Google Assistant. I tried it briefly when I was playing with Android Auto downloaded from the play store and had full hands free OK Google functionality which comes from GA (just called Google). Just more reason to get it from CKM.

400ixl 09-03-2018 12:16 PM

Has anyone been able to pair an OBD2 bluetooth adaptor to the V2 head unit? If so, could I ask which one is it and where did you get it from?

Looks like the unit is restricted in what adaptors it will pair with (many of these Chinese HU's only pair with devices named "OBD"). Short of decompiling MTCBluetooth3.apk and Settings.apk , modifying the smali files to remove the restriction and recompiling them, or rooting it and putting the Xposed module in its finding a compatible device.

Chris, is this something you could ask the developers about and whether they have restricted the devices it will pair with. Its one of your units.

400ixl 09-03-2018 12:21 PM

Anyone looked into changing the default apps that are in the launcher?

I can see how to do the Navigation App (which is good as the iGO app for me didn't work (asked for some files on an SD card which is corrupt and I had to replace on mine). I can also see how to remove the icons totally, but can't see how to add new icons, or change the associated apps in the existing ones. Not looked into the file structures yet or the apk for the launcher as of yet.

Skeechan 09-03-2018 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7545229)
Anyone looked into changing the default apps that are in the launcher?

I can see how to do the Navigation App (which is good as the iGO app for me didn't work (asked for some files on an SD card which is corrupt and I had to replace on mine). I can also see how to remove the icons totally, but can't see how to add new icons, or change the associated apps in the existing ones. Not looked into the file structures yet or the apk for the launcher as of yet.

About device - Password protected settings gear icon (to the right of HMI Benz) - Menu Icons

dacia 09-03-2018 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by choitwao (Post 7545051)
​​Just for addition just the factory said they don't make 7.1 units doesn't mean no one is doinf it. I think the resellers in NA are capable of upgrading it by themselves if there is a demand out there, and that's definitely possible and doable. But i would be skeptical if it is shipped directly from China.

If this is the case then the difference between the V1 and V2 are basically just an Android and other software upgrade?
But it seems like they also upgraded the memory and storage capacity.
Also, what is that blue light ISP screen you mentioned?
On Alibaba, and from Chris, it seems the unit comes with one set of specs only.
If there are 3 in existence why don't they sell the other two?

And lastly, can the COMAND DVD player used to play DVDs and can we watch them on the big screen?
Thanks.

Skeechan 09-03-2018 08:43 PM

COMAND is only viewable as PiP, not full screen as far as I can tell but you can watch whatever you want off SD cards or via tethered streaming. I have Blu-ray rips on my 200GB microSD and they all play fine using VLC and of course I stream videos like crazy (since I have an unlimited tethering plan).

dacia 09-03-2018 10:37 PM

Thanks Skeechan
So what you are saying is that the COMAND window is the original size on the Android screen and in that window I can watch whatever I play on the DVD?.

On Alibaba the specs state: "Max External Memory:64G".
You can connect a 200GB SD card and use it?
Would the 64GB be a USB limitation?

Skeechan 09-03-2018 10:48 PM

COMAND window appears PiP with a correct aspect ratio. I do not use DVD in COMAND so I do not know how video in motion works with COMAND but if it works like radio or other functions, then it should work with DVD. It doesn't appear pixel perfect though. COMAND is slightly fuzzy as if scaled or interpolated on mine. SLIGHTLY fuzzy. It is fine for COMAND navi, radio or things like that, but video might look soft. Color is also a bit off with COMAND in PiP too which doesn't matter for radio and stuff but could look a bit off for videos. My colors shifted a bit pale in COMAND. Changing screen parameters has an effect on these but is not perfect-perfect color reproduction of the original COMAND screen.

As for 64GB, don't know where that comes from as I use 200GB no problem. It is not a USB limit either. I did mount 2TB and V2 didn't like booting from it but I think that was a USB bus amperage (probably only lower power USB) problem, not a size problem as when I plugged it in after boot, it mounted 2TB HDD no problem. The USB port is probably only .5A.

Mine did not come from Alibaba, it came from Chris the Swede along with excellent post install support so it could function differently.

dacia 09-03-2018 11:45 PM

Thanks Skeechan, very good info.

choitwao 09-04-2018 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7545465)
If this is the case then the difference between the V1 and V2 are basically just an Android and other software upgrade?
But it seems like they also upgraded the memory and storage capacity.
Also, what is that blue light ISP screen you mentioned?
On Alibaba, and from Chris, it seems the unit comes with one set of specs only.
If there are 3 in existence why don't they sell the other two?

And lastly, can the COMAND DVD player used to play DVDs and can we watch them on the big screen?
Thanks.

I assume that is the truth. As Chris said his dev team come up with the Android 7.1 update for the unit and called it V2, which is an awesome move since the factory will not improve the foreign OS version, at least not before the Chinese version does. I would definitely do it by myself since I am a software guy...
For the hardware tho, I believe the high-end variance just got released in the market for one or two months, and it comes with Android 6.0.
Based on my research, the variances are
  • 4 cores + 1 GB ram + 16GB capacity + Android 5.0, should be the earliest model
  • 8 cores + 2 GB ram + 32GB + Android 5.0 (early version) / 6.0 (upgraded version, the common one now in the market)
  • the latest 8 cores + 4GB ram + 64GB capacity + Android 6.0 + Blue Light IPS Screen Panel + SIM card slots
I corrected a few spec error in my previous post, this should be the correct one based on the info. So the hardware is the major difference between these variances (but I doubt that the hardware architecture is changed), they just improved it. The software update should be available across all these variances.
The `Blue Light Screen` is basically instead of the regular LCD screen on the first two variances they put a better panel on the unit with a blue light filter. It kind of blocks the blue light from the screen and reduce reflection so that the screen is more clear under strong lights (i.e. sunlight).
They are selling three variances mostly because 1) need to empty the stock, 2) different target clients, as I mentioned that the Chinese market is pretty huge and some might want to spend less on the navigation screen and some don't care at all, 3) prices are different, it is about US$100 difference between each variance, so the cheapest one can go to less than $300 MSRP.
Also, in the Chinese market, all these variances come with add-ons such as integrated dash cam, backup camera etc. etc.

I am not quite sure about the DVD tho since I haven't get my hands on the product. I think based on the videos above you can watch them but not in full screen, only in the COMAND screen.

I attached a few screenshot of the product description/poster. I think the panel itself doesnt make huge difference but marketing trick.

FYI: i have no $$ connection to this product and the factory, or not mean to ruin anyone's business, just posting the info I found based on my research and connection and hope it will help the members in this forum :)


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a10557a45f.png
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e7562e3815.png
Screen difference here
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8d3d31ed73.png

Nicolas Farinas 09-04-2018 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by choitwao (Post 7545051)
​​Just for addition just the factory said they don't make 7.1 units doesn't mean no one is doinf it. I think the resellers in NA are capable of upgrading it by themselves if there is a demand out there, and that's definitely possible and doable. But i would be skeptical if it is shipped directly from China.


damn it! Just when im ready to order... I get freaked out LOL.
you know to come to think of it you have a good point there ...it used to be pretty easy to spoof your Android version by editing the build.prop. You used to be able to make your Android version anything you'd like. The big reason I am suspicious is because no one reports that they're able to use the PiP function which is a staple of Android 7.0. Perhaps they edited the build. Prop to shut up us whining Americans....

could someone who has the product say what this link says?

https://whatismyandroidversion.com/
or maybe download this from the app store?
it will confirm the CPU and Android version... I just don't know if changing it in the build. Prop what effect would it displays but it's worth a shot

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inpocketsoftware.andTest


this link will actually give the build number

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inkwired.droidinfo


awaiting the results

dacia 09-04-2018 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by choitwao (Post 7545579)
I assume that is the truth. As Chris said his dev team come up with the Android 7.1 update for the unit and called it V2, which is an awesome move since the factory will not improve the foreign OS version, at least not before the Chinese version does. I would definitely do it by myself since I am a software guy...
For the hardware tho, I believe the high-end variance just got released in the market for one or two months, and it comes with Android 6.0.
Based on my research, the variances are
  • 4 cores + 1 GB ram + 16GB capacity + Android 5.0, should be the earliest model
  • 8 cores + 2 GB ram + 32GB + Android 5.0 (early version) / 6.0 (upgraded version, the common one now in the market)
  • the latest 8 cores + 4GB ram + 64GB capacity + Android 6.0 + Blue Light IPS Screen Panel + SIM card slots
I corrected a few spec error in my previous post, this should be the correct one based on the info. So the hardware is the major difference between these variances (but I doubt that the hardware architecture is changed), they just improved it. The software update should be available across all these variances.
The `Blue Light Screen` is basically instead of the regular LCD screen on the first two variances they put a better panel on the unit with a blue light filter. It kind of blocks the blue light from the screen and reduce reflection so that the screen is more clear under strong lights (i.e. sunlight).
They are selling three variances mostly because 1) need to empty the stock, 2) different target clients, as I mentioned that the Chinese market is pretty huge and some might want to spend less on the navigation screen and some don't care at all, 3) prices are different, it is about US$100 difference between each variance, so the cheapest one can go to less than $300 MSRP.
Also, in the Chinese market, all these variances come with add-ons such as integrated dash cam, backup camera etc. etc.

I am not quite sure about the DVD tho since I haven't get my hands on the product. I think based on the videos above you can watch them but not in full screen, only in the COMAND screen.

I attached a few screenshot of the product description/poster. I think the panel itself doesnt make huge difference but marketing trick.

FYI: i have no $$ connection to this product and the factory, or not mean to ruin anyone's business, just posting the info I found based on my research and connection and hope it will help the members in this forum :)

That's an awesome post choitwao, thanks,
I will wait until the latest version becomes the most common or available at all because for now I can only find the mid-level both on Alibaba and from Chris.
As I live in Japan I can use the SLIM slots as well, according to Car-life it supports the following LTE bands: B1, B3, B7, B8, B39, B40, B41

dsenela 09-04-2018 03:33 AM

Thanks choitwao for your fantastic, informative insight.

OjciecKrzysztof 09-04-2018 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7545590)
damn it! Just when im ready to order... I get freaked out LOL.
you know to come to think of it you have a good point there ...it used to be pretty easy to spoof your Android version by editing the build.prop. You used to be able to make your Android version anything you'd like. The big reason I am suspicious is because no one reports that they're able to use the PiP function which is a staple of Android 7.0. Perhaps they edited the build. Prop to shut up us whining Americans....

could someone who has the product say what this link says?

https://whatismyandroidversion.com/
or maybe download this from the app store?
it will confirm the CPU and Android version... I just don't know if changing it in the build. Prop what effect would it displays but it's worth a shot

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ftware.andTest


this link will actually give the build number

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ired.droidinfo


awaiting the results


The information about the equipment is described

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...21d1601b0f.jpg


while the above page displays

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc7ebda1f5.jpg

for example, the Samsung S9 + displays

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6110c135fa.jpg

I am surprised....

Edit. I've got V2.

dacia 09-04-2018 08:45 PM

Chris, how about the screen with the below specs, when will you have them available?
  • the latest 8 cores + 4GB ram + 64GB capacity + Android 6.0 + Blue Light IPS Screen Panel + SIM card slots

Chris The Swede 09-05-2018 03:17 AM

Its avalible but there is actually no need for it at all. The version sold now handles all perfectly and you will not have any use for the 4,64 spec. So its like a $150 difference for a less reflex option.

Charlii 09-05-2018 06:07 AM

Избрах този дисплей! Купих за мен! :)

Autostereo Android 8 7 Car GPS navigation head unit For MERCEDES-BENZ E220 W212 2010-2016 auto multimedia radio tape recorder
http://s.aliexpress.com/nYNvqqmM?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard

Nicolas Farinas 09-05-2018 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by OjciecKrzysztof (Post 7545998)
The information about the equipment is described

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...21d1601b0f.jpg


while the above page displays

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dc7ebda1f5.jpg

for example, the Samsung S9 + displays

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6110c135fa.jpg

I am surprised....

Edit. I've got V2.



so that would explain WHY native pip isnt working!!!!! Its really android 6.0 as i suapected. Which falls in line with what the guy from china said. From whom did you buy your v2 from? Chris from this forum?

Nicolas Farinas 09-05-2018 08:34 AM

OjciecKrzysztof.... do the ammount of cores and clock speed match up with what has been advertised ? (Cpu)

Nicolas Farinas 09-05-2018 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7546480)
Its avalible but there is actually no need for it at all. The version sold now handles all perfectly and you will not have any use for the 4,64 spec. So its like a $150 difference for a less reflex option.


chris, i have a question for you. Android 7.1.1 released on Dec. 5th, 2016.

As you can see that evb3562v_c_66_m0's security patch level is June 1, 2016. This is the most common MediaTek's Android security patch release for 'Android 6.0'.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/19...g?v=1532062693

So really, evb356x models are running Android 6.0, not Android 7.1.1 Also, these devices seem to be missing many core google libraries which would seem to explain so much trouble with Play Store apps and lack of PIP. Are you aware of this?


Chris The Swede 09-05-2018 09:10 AM

As I said.. It starts out as a 6 and Our SW team make it to a 7. Wish makes 7 apps apk files possible to install and use. This is what I am told and what I know. It works perfectly to me.

OjciecKrzysztof 09-05-2018 09:10 AM

I bought on Aliexpress from Top Road. I'll check the CPU after work.

Chris The Swede 09-05-2018 09:26 AM

AND if ANYONE is not happy with this 7 version I am happy to do a full refund of course. But I see no reason since it works flawlesly like it is and are 100 times better than the V1. But if focus is on PiP then maybe its better to retun it. :)

Skeechan 09-05-2018 09:50 AM

My V2 also reports Android 6, 2GB RAM, 32GB onboard storage, 8 core 1GHz. I don’t care about PiP and the unit works great. Side by side apps would be cool because of the aspect ratio but PiP is way overrated. The unit has to have those APIs enabled and the apps have to support it. PiP is not automatically “native” to Android 7 and all of its apps. It is up to the manufacturer to enable the APIs even is 7 is installed.

RAM seems fine for me, no problem running BRD rips and simultaneous apps like playing flacs while running Waze. For on board, also don’t care since it has SD slot (I run 200GB SD Card) and 2 USB ports. 64 onboard is just as pointless as 32. Both too small to hold your media, especially if you host videos and lossless audio.

i don’t get what all the apprehension is. The unit supports play store, is fast, GPS works, has dual USB, supports android auto, supports car play with a dongle, etc.

So far I have found only two apps that won’t run, Netflix and AT&T U-Verse and have not even tried side loading Netflix. I use Apple Music, Waze, Twitch, YouTube and VLC all the time and it all works great. I have not found a media file of any size or type it won’t play at full frame rates including 4K.

It is a car media interface, not a desktop PC. It does car stuff, lots and lots of car stuff and does it very well.

There will ALWAYS be another version or design on the horizon. After IPS there will probably be a newer OS, higher resolution or even OLED. You can play the waiting game with and endless “should I, should I” or have a great unit now and worry about what better comes along next year, next year. Other makers will have them more like the COMAND screen set into the dash like OEM, there is always something different coming along, always.

The situation is very simple. If if you want a better audio interface that supports and does more than COMAND ever could and do so with an elegant interface that wows your friends while rewarding yourself every time you drive, this V2 is the unit to get. And if you want good install support, including all the tips about secret menus and everything else that unlocks even more potential, get it from Chris.

Again...it is a CAR media interface. It is not your laptop on which you will be doing anything and everything. Really, it is already tricky manipulating half of what it can do while driving as it is.


Skeechan 09-05-2018 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7546582)
Also, these devices seem to be missing many core google libraries which would seem to explain so much trouble with Play Store apps and lack of PIP. Are you aware of this?

What trouble with play store apps are you referring to? I have not experienced "so much trouble" with play store apps. In fact, I have found only 2 of the dozens I have installed and neither have anything to do with 6 vs 7, but some other regional problem or poor design problems like modal windows that are more than 480px tall so they won't run on anything with a short vertical resolution. I have not tried sideloading Netflix so I can't even confirm if it is truely a non-working app. AT&T U-Verse fails to authenticate as they lock down their content with strong DRM.

OjciecKrzysztof 09-05-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by profir (Post 7491969)
One more tip:
For hot-spot I've used an old galaxy a3 (first one),I've installed from play store Automate and I've created 2 "flows" - is quite easy and intuitive.
1st: when the phone is pluged to power adapter (connected to the socket inside the glove box and the engine is turned on - obviously) - turn off airplane mode, turn on hot-spot and activate flow 2.
2nd: when the phone is disconnected from power (turning off the engine) - turn off hot-spot, turn on the airplane mode and activate flow 1.
The phone battery consumption per night with these settings is 2-3% and it will be recharged in 5-10mins. In my experience data consumption for 2 hours of waze+Spotify per day is somewhere at 2GB monthly.
So now I have a cheap solution for hot-spot and is working flawlessly from two weeks now.


Guys, please keep this thread alive and share your tips and tweaks for this unit. Together we can diminish the frustration of spending +600USD for a semi retarded device.

Can you do a screen from yours flows?

Splise 09-05-2018 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7546616)
My V2 also reports Android 6, 2GB RAM, 32GB onboard storage, 8 core 1GHz. I don’t care about PiP and the unit works great. Side by side apps would be cool because of the aspect ratio but PiP is way overrated. The unit has to have those APIs enabled and the apps have to support it. PiP is not automatically “native” to Android 7 and all of its apps. It is up to the manufacturer to enable the APIs even is 7 is installed.

RAM seems fine for me, no problem running BRD rips and simultaneous apps like playing flacs while running Waze. For on board, also don’t care since it has SD slot (I run 200GB SD Card) and 2 USB ports. 64 onboard is just as pointless as 32. Both too small to hold your media, especially if you host videos and lossless audio.

i don’t get what all the apprehension is. The unit supports play store, is fast, GPS works, has dual USB, supports android auto, supports car play with a dongle, etc.

So far I have found only two apps that won’t run, Netflix and AT&T U-Verse and have not even tried side loading Netflix. I use Apple Music, Waze, Twitch, YouTube and VLC all the time and it all works great. I have not found a media file of any size or type it won’t play at full frame rates including 4K.

It is a car media interface, not a desktop PC. It does car stuff, lots and lots of car stuff and does it very well.

There will ALWAYS be another version or design on the horizon. After IPS there will probably be a newer OS, higher resolution or even OLED. You can play the waiting game with and endless “should I, should I” or have a great unit now and worry about what better comes along next year, next year. Other makers will have them more like the COMAND screen set into the dash like OEM, there is always something different coming along, always.

The situation is very simple. If if you want a better audio interface that supports and does more than COMAND ever could and do so with an elegant interface that wows your friends while rewarding yourself every time you drive, this V2 is the unit to get. And if you want good install support, including all the tips about secret menus and everything else that unlocks even more potential, get it from Chris.

Again...it is a CAR media interface. It is not your laptop on which you will be doing anything and everything. Really, it is already tricky manipulating half of what it can do while driving as it is.


I couldn't agree more.

As a side note, do you mean micro SD when you say "SD card"? Which one are you using if you don't mind me asking?

Skeechan 09-05-2018 01:08 PM

yes, micro SD. There is a SIM slot which doesn't do non Asia markets any good because of the very limited bands supported and a microSD slot that supports large capacity cards (at least 256GB which is the largest I tried). In addition as part of the harness there are 2 1/2A USB cables which you can route into the glove box or whatever. To this you can add more storage, either lower power HDD or USB memory sticks or optional functions like the Apple Car Play dongle. For the USB I tried a large 2TB notebook drive with single bus power and the V2 didn't like it. If I had used both ports to supply 1A, it probably would have worked fine since it would work after booting. I ended up not bothering since 200GB of storage was enough to store my FLAC and video files while I stream the rest using Apple Music, Youtube Music, iHeartRadio,, SiriusXM app, etc.

OjciecKrzysztof 09-05-2018 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Nicolas Farinas (Post 7546560)
OjciecKrzysztof.... do the ammount of cores and clock speed match up with what has been advertised ? (Cpu)


Here you are - 8 cores and 2 GB RAM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5dd5d8fe03.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ee732d2955.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2fcdbe595b.jpg

Splise 09-05-2018 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7545224)
Has anyone been able to pair an OBD2 bluetooth adaptor to the V2 head unit? If so, could I ask which one is it and where did you get it from?

Looks like the unit is restricted in what adaptors it will pair with (many of these Chinese HU's only pair with devices named "OBD"). Short of decompiling MTCBluetooth3.apk and Settings.apk , modifying the smali files to remove the restriction and recompiling them, or rooting it and putting the Xposed module in its finding a compatible device.

Chris, is this something you could ask the developers about and whether they have restricted the devices it will pair with. Its one of your units.

I have a BlueDriver and Veepeak Bluetooth OBD2 adapter. I inquired about using the BlueDriver adapter with Torque Pro and general compatibility with the Android 10.25" screen. BlueDriver support has come back with the following:
"BlueDriver uses 2.0 so it’s compatible with all version of Android 4.4+ BlueDriver is an original design and not based on generic components, as a result it isn’t currently supported by other third party apps which expect elm components. If you’re planning on using it with an aftermarket Android head unit it might not be compatible, in our testing we’ve found that most of these tablets are based on a common custom Android build that is set up to only permit pairing with a specific type of scan tool and actively blocks our device from connecting."

I will be testing both OBD2 adapters in the next couple days to see if I can get either of them to work. I will report back.

Thomas42 09-06-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by timopro (Post 7515113)
ok I solved, I had to change video resolution to number 4..it was set to 2 ..tks for support anyway.

Hi,

i have the same Problem. No OEM Screen.
But where can i change the Video resolution ? I can't find it.

Thanks for helping.

Also regards from Switzerland
Thomas

Thomas42 09-06-2018 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7518306)
Well got my Android 7.1 (V2?) unit today from Chris and NOTHING but problems trying to get it to work in my 2011 E350 SDN with NTG4. First, no comand is showing in the picture in picture, but the 7.1 settings screen looks different than the one in the beginning of the thread so I cannot find that scaling menu. Also no audio at all, even when I hook up the old command screen (in parallel) and the dash shows it is on a radio station. The comand dial also doesnt do anything. Finally major android apps crash. When trying to start navigation for example, I get global_cfg not found error.

This thing is a complete mess.

Things I have done and tried.

First my unit uses the silver video adapter since I do not have the OEM blue plug. The paper in the box (there was absolutely ZERO instructions included with this thing) said connect the red off of the silver box to white and black on teh adapter hardness. Done and no comand. Tried the thing earlier in the thread providing video (yellow) with 12v and still nothing.

Double checked the fiber optics were going into the adapter cable at the head unit, fine.

Check that the connector was well seated between the OEM harness and the adapter cable and the adapter cable and the head unit. The cable is very hard to plug into the head unit but is in as far as it will go and the latch barely latches.

Checked fiber optics again were plugged into the outer port.

What does work, RPM, door is ajar, reports correct temp and then android stuff itself, screen obviously functions, touch functions, some apps open, but that it is. Nothing works as it should when it comes to the comand interface, dial and audio. Car has ZERO audio now..

HI,
absolute same problem for me.
No OEM screen.
Door open , RPM and Air condition is shown.

Hope to find a solution here in this forum

Cheers Thomas

Skeechan 09-06-2018 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Thomas42 (Post 7547506)
HI,
absolute same problem for me.
No OEM screen.
Door open , RPM and Air condition is shown.

Hope to find a solution here in this forum

Cheers Thomas

See post #499
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post7514442

...and check the video starting at 6:56, then follow along until 7:28 and you will see Original Car Screen Resolution. There is no set number for every model, you just have to try different numbers, like 2 or 4 until you get the best command image. If you get no image after trying all of these, you need to recheck your wired connections.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a5efcba495.png

Splise 09-06-2018 11:30 AM

Here are some photos/notes of my installation (2013 C207) in case they are of some assistance to someone. I know it helps me to see pictures of how other people approach their installs. I wish I had taken additional photos of the process to share some of the nuances of the installation. I ran the 3.5mm Aux and one of the two USB cables (both attached to the larger wiring harness) from the Android screen to the center console storage. I ran the second USB (from the smaller wiring harness) to the passenger side footwell, and I ran the GPS antenna to my rear view mirror.

Before install (disregard my white legs):
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...87254190fd.jpg

The two blue clips to be removed from vent assembly:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...671516c9b2.jpg

Back of factory radio, just for reference:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...925197d7e9.jpg

Wiring harness in place, ready to connect up:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a2fdb77bde.jpg

Below is how I ran the USB connector and 3.5mm Aux to through center console:

Notice the shrink tubing on the COMAND control knob. The 4 wire ribbon cable that is attached to the COMAND control knob is wedged underneath the console itself from the factory. From what I can tell, it's almost impossible to disconnect and remove the COMAND control knob without wrecking/cutting the 4 wire ribbon cable, unless a person were to remove the ENTIRE center console first. I still wasn't able to pull the cable out once I had the control knob disconnected.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fe72a4ec80.jpg

Soldering the COMAND control knob's 4 wire connector back to the control knob itself. I had to completely disassemble the knob to get at the connector located on the PCB:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...665bb4cbf7.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8104938eaa.jpg

Here is how I ran the cables through the center into the center console storage:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6101109849.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8a397d8ef9.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8291538005.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...124ea5c924.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9e87175b02.jpg

The second USB routed to the passenger side footwell:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bc8088b1d5.jpg

GPS antenna attached to rear view mirror. This took WAY less time than expected. It's very easy to remove the A-Pillar trim and run the cable to the rear-view mirror. Yes, I know the orientation of the antenna is all wrong, but it's only temporary until I get my cameras mounted. Signal is not too bad (Max 1M accuracy), and also appears to be accurate when driving as well:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...52d9b9c292.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...662768a7dc.jpg

Getting the factory radio back in was the hardest part in my opinion. That said, some people seem to have a much easier time than I did. It took me many hours to get the factory radio seated properly. You can see that the cables need to be tucked down as far as they can, with the block connector placed down in the crevice perfectly to avoid the radio catching on it:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4e05aa142b.jpg

And finally, the finished product:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...42e0363cef.jpg

Skeechan 09-06-2018 12:33 PM

Looks great Splise. :y

400ixl 09-07-2018 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7545283)
About device - Password protected settings gear icon (to the right of HMI Benz) - Menu Icons

You can remove Icons here, but have you found a way to add new ones, or change the application associated with the existing icons through this menu? I couldn't find how to do that part.

Not had the time to look any further into it yet.

Skeechan 09-07-2018 07:46 AM

I have not tried it yet.

Splise 09-07-2018 10:12 PM

I have a stupid question. How do I get connect more than one Bluetooth device? I cant find the actual Android Bluetooth settings anywhere.

BenzBros1 09-07-2018 11:17 PM

Awe man you cut it? It’s a plug. I rebuilt my command knob. Took 1.5hrs. Great job though.

Splise 09-07-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by BenzBros1 (Post 7548889)
Awe man you cut it? It’s a plug. I rebuilt my command knob. Took 1.5hrs. Great job though.


Thanks! I saw the plug, and knew it was there before removing the COMAND knob. But the middle part of the cable was tucked way under the center console. There was no way to take out the COMAND knob without cutting the wire. I could lift it and surrounding trim about 1/2 an inch, but no more. Not sure if its specific to the C207, but I think i saw someone else who had the same issue. I ordered a new one regardless, haha.

Chris The Swede 09-08-2018 03:15 AM

Cut it?????? Neverseen that had to be done???? I removed mine several times and no cutting needed.

Splise 09-08-2018 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7548961)
Cut it?????? Neverseen that had to be done???? I removed mine several times and no cutting needed.

I'm happy yours is so easy to get out. Cutting it was the only option without completely removing the center console. In fact, I will have the cut the cable again if I replace the knob since the middle of it is still secured under the console. I had to solder it back together in place as well.

Any answer to my Bluetooth question while you're chiming in?

BenzBros1 09-08-2018 01:33 PM

So, is this install easy to live with as a day to day element? I just got my car back from MB after a CEL and a O2 sensor so now I want to do some mods. I just hate stuff that doesn’t work right all the time like factory. Is it a solid piece or a tinker bit?

huewish 09-08-2018 05:44 PM

Does anybody have the direct link to buy the new unit from Chris the Swede?

Splise 09-08-2018 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by huewish (Post 7549329)
Does anybody have the direct link to buy the new unit from Chris the Swede?

http://www.ckmcardes********/

400ixl 09-09-2018 05:00 AM

The site is filtering the url for Chris's site. Use https://tinyurl.com/ybunfpr8 and select you model of car from there and then the headunit (LHD or RHD) variant.

Skeechan 09-09-2018 05:57 AM

And don't forget to select VAT Excl if VAT does not apply to you.

ftanha 09-09-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by deepthought66 (Post 7417413)
I had that happen initially when my audio out for Android was connected via the 3.5mm to Aux. Like you, I heard static when switching over from Aux to BT (i.e. BT audio direct from phone to the COMAND head-unit). Tried a bunch of things, but nothing worked. The settings that finally worked for me were - (a) I connected audio from the screen to the head unit via BT (and changed the related audio out in the screen's settings to BT vs Aux) AND (b) lowering volume on the screen to 5 or 6 (vs. higher). And yes, accomplishing (a) was a pain in the butt. I had to go through 'Factory Pattern' (the one with the 111111 pass key) into the tablet settings, turn on the BT and then rush back to the "FM" to get to the stock screen, search for BT devices, find "Android BT", and finally pair the devices. Took me a few tries....now I have audio via BT AND steering wheel audio controls (back, next, etc.) via BT. All is finally well.


wow, it is interesting. I also would love to have the audio through Bluetooth connection, but how it can happen? i tried so many times both on my OEM radio to find the android Bluetooth or on the android side to find the OEM Bluetooth but no success. can you please help

Chris The Swede 09-09-2018 08:11 AM

Yeah my site is banned here because I dont pay them money.....

I cant even post links to my DIY videos...discriminative!!!

Chris The Swede 09-09-2018 08:13 AM

I have this installed in my Black E63 Wagon so I though a cutom boot screen was in place..

Facebook Post

Chris The Swede 09-10-2018 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by ftanha (Post 7549588)
wow, it is interesting. I also would love to have the audio through Bluetooth connection, but how it can happen? i tried so many times both on my OEM radio to find the android Bluetooth or on the android side to find the OEM Bluetooth but no success. can you please help

This is for V1.

Butta 09-10-2018 09:59 AM

Anyone have a spare harness for the V2? I messed up and got the cable stuck in no mans land. PM me.

Sly_North 09-10-2018 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7506654)
5. Is there split screen mode (display 2 apps at the same time)? This is an android 7 feature.

There's only a test feature in the dev menu. All apps are not working properly with it (they'll either switch to fullscreen, or not open). For example the music "app" of the launch screen won't scale down, and only half of it will be displayed (so it'll work better if you put it on the right, to still see and use its buttons).

A quick test on my v2 screen:
http://tfpsly.free.fr/Car/Mercedes_G...lit_screen.jpg

pdsoliman 09-11-2018 09:26 AM

All -

i just purchased this unit and am having a shop install it for me (hey, don’t judge me, I know when i’m out of my depth).

The shop hop says they are having trouble with the unit’s audio (flowing through the aux in the glove compartment) is too quiet and they can’t remedy. Has anyone run into this or know how to fix? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
David

400ixl 09-11-2018 09:43 AM

I had this when I plugged an extension lead in which had a noise filter in it. Removed that as it was just a pre-cautionary thing and it was fine. I did also have to play around with the default volume levels on both the HU and the Merc system to balance them all out so they all played at around the same level when switching sources. So couple of possibles there.

csufy 09-11-2018 09:47 AM

Anyone rooted the v2 yet?
The V1 I rooted but cannot the v2.. I need it to change the DPI because everything is just too big for me especially WAZE.

Charlii 09-11-2018 10:58 AM

Kingroot what he shows?

Tvremote 09-11-2018 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7469946)



Im feeling like it might be , just my luck

This is my setup, ntg 4.5/audio 20
https://i.imgur.com/QlKrVRY.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Q0IOV3G.jpg

Second picture I just connect the radio OEM plug that's in my console directly to the new cable (OEM connector ) and then connect the new head from the 10.25 cable into the back of my console (standard)

Connect the RCA to aux cable.
https://i.imgur.com/n52boeT.jpg

Lastly I connect the blue OEM plug that was in my old display to the new wire I have pictured beneath and then connect the new rectangle white plug into the back of my screen leaving the usb out

https://i.imgur.com/WHFEcfA.jpg


No bootup or nothing, not sure if it's worth noting I have a reverse camera that has been properly installed into my car , but there's no wire at the front that would make me able to put it into the yellow cable as designed with the 10.25


Is there anything I can do?? To see if this device is defect??

Cheers for help


still have this issue if anyone could help, i sent it back to supplier who showed me product still works so not sure why it didn't boot up in my PRE-FL NTG 4.5 W176

I read on another forum " Eventually figured it out, was an issue with the cable wiring where two cable clips have to be swapped over in order to work in a pre-facelift." anyone know if I could be missing anything from this post? sounds like he had the same issue unfortunately the person is now inactive, so dont know which two cable clips he would be referencing.

V1

Sly_North 09-11-2018 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7551263)
still have this issue if anyone could help, i sent it back to supplier who showed me product still works so not sure why it didn't boot up in my PRE-FL NTG 4.5 W176

I read on another forum " Eventually figured it out, was an issue with the cable wiring where two cable clips have to be swapped over in order to work in a pre-facelift." anyone know if I could be missing anything from this post? sounds like he had the same issue unfortunately the person is now inactive, so dont know which two cable clips he would be referencing.

V1

Look for A, B and A/B cable swap

csufy 09-11-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7551174)
Kingroot what he shows?

Its not working. I’ll make a screenshot tomorrow.
It says some number like “6 requests”

400ixl 09-11-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7551263)
still have this issue if anyone could help, i sent it back to supplier who showed me product still works so not sure why it didn't boot up in my PRE-FL NTG 4.5 W176

I read on another forum " Eventually figured it out, was an issue with the cable wiring where two cable clips have to be swapped over in order to work in a pre-facelift." anyone know if I could be missing anything from this post? sounds like he had the same issue unfortunately the person is now inactive, so dont know which two cable clips he would be referencing.

V1

If the car is one where the screen has the black connector (square one) rather than the normal one and has the UCI aux in the glovebox then you need to use the additional loom with the silver box and connect the two wires together and then connect swap the A/B cables and change the loop back connector for the other one on the cable which is now not used.

Do you have the square connector on the screen?
Do you have the AUX in the glovebox or armrest?

400ixl 09-11-2018 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by csufy (Post 7551323)


Its not working. I’ll make a screenshot tomorrow.
It says some number like “6 requests”

Which method, the on device or via PC?

I am trying to resist the need to root it, but if I don't get any response from Chris on the likelyhood of a couple of mods (removal of the restriction on Bluetooth connections, and the ability to change the apps for the music and video home shortcuts) I may well look into it and make the changes myself. DPI would be another I would look at as I agree, Waze is not good on that layout, but not enough to drive me to root it.

Anthony199 09-11-2018 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7551420)
If the car is one where the screen has the black connector (square one) rather than the normal one and has the UCI aux in the glovebox then you need to use the additional loom with the silver box and connect the two wires together and then connect swap the A/B cables and change the loop back connector for the other one on the cable which is now not used.

Do you have the square connector on the screen?
Do you have the AUX in the glovebox or armrest?

Hey, I'm just casually joining in here. I dontdreally understand, if my aux is in the glovebox, what does that tell me?

400ixl 09-11-2018 03:18 PM

It gives us an idea of what configuration the cabling and the mode on the unit needs to be in to work. There was a pdf posted earlier in the thread which shows the wiring options for the different modes.

Charlii 09-11-2018 04:05 PM

инсталация pdf
https://ndox.abv.bg/download?id=da0c85fddd

Tvremote 09-11-2018 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7551420)
If the car is one where the screen has the black connector (square one) rather than the normal one and has the UCI aux in the glovebox then you need to use the additional loom with the silver box and connect the two wires together and then connect swap the A/B cables and change the loop back connector for the other one on the cable which is now not used.

Do you have the square connector on the screen?
Do you have the AUX in the glovebox or armrest?

thanks for the response , firstly i appreciate it all. cus this is pretty much community driven as far as support.

aux is in the arm rest,

I have the blue / green connector into the back of the screen and then additionally what looks like a power cable alongside it (small) ntg 4.5

as seen in this vid 3:30

this is my stock / default setup

gonna try the a/b cabling swap as mentioned tomorrow aswell and get back to you guys.


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7551304)
Look for A, B and A/B cable swap

Thanks for the advice Sly

400ixl 09-11-2018 06:56 PM

Sounds like you should just need to connect the screen up, the second cable isn't needed. The A/A cable should then be fine and you will need to set the mode to 4 on the Android head unit. If that doesn't work you have to remove the loop back connector, swap the cable over and then put the other corresponding loop back cable onto the now unused connector.

amgggg... 09-11-2018 08:05 PM

Is anyone experiencing no voice-based navigation from Android Auto? I have checked the screen settings menu for both Navi and System Volume and the Music app works fine. Any ideas on how to fix this issue?

Tvremote 09-13-2018 09:21 AM

So the conclusion with mine is, i got the wrong wiring loom, hence why i cant even see a boot up, i think mine is for a GLA rather than my 13' A class on ntg 4.5

If anyone has seen a place I could buy a wiring loom for an A class (W176) any help would be appreciated, (Vendor/ website)
If anyone has one would also be nice? or wants to swap
messaged Chris for advice but dont know if he can help at this point.

I guess this is what happens when you buy used

ItchyTasty 09-13-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7550450)
There's only a test feature in the dev menu. All apps are not working properly with it (they'll either switch to fullscreen, or not open). For example the music "app" of the launch screen won't scale down, and only half of it will be displayed (so it'll work better if you put it on the right, to still see and use its buttons).

A quick test on my v2 screen:
http://tfpsly.free.fr/Car/Mercedes_G...lit_screen.jpg

HOTT damn, it works. Would very much enjoy seeing a video of maps and audio side by side, especially to see if the audio cuts low of off for directions.

ftanha 09-13-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7550122)
This is for V1.

Thanks Chris for the reply, but I didn't understand. was it possible for V1 but no more for V2? and does it means that there is no way to connect to car sound through Bluetooth? in fact I feel the quality of sound transfered through Aux is bit cheaper than the sound quality through Bluetooth (i could be totaly wrong). I wish if I could get the sound through Bluetooth. I would enjoy it.

Chris The Swede 09-13-2018 11:12 AM

There is a extra BT box included with the V2. So that is why its different for V2.

Skeechan 09-13-2018 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by amgggg... (Post 7551745)
Is anyone experiencing no voice-based navigation from Android Auto? I have checked the screen settings menu for both Navi and System Volume and the Music app works fine. Any ideas on how to fix this issue?

You also have to have the "Google" app installed in order to get the voice control as it is part of the assistant.

Skeechan 09-13-2018 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7550450)
There's only a test feature in the dev menu. All apps are not working properly with it (they'll either switch to fullscreen, or not open). For example the music "app" of the launch screen won't scale down, and only half of it will be displayed (so it'll work better if you put it on the right, to still see and use its buttons).

A quick test on my v2 screen:

Not all apps work because the authors have to support the split API and not all do. Split screen is not "native" to Android 7. The APIs have to be supported by both the manufacturer and app writer. Even the same app will work split screen on one of my 7 devices while they won't on the other so there may be different API builds or perhaps not all resolutions are supported by the API (so a short resolution like 480px) my throw it a curve ball.

Skeechan 09-13-2018 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7553060)
HOTT damn, it works. Would very much enjoy seeing a video of maps and audio side by side, especially to see if the audio cuts low of off for directions.

For a split screen audio app, you can try VLC and see if it works (since VLC does support PnP on some devices).

Chris The Swede 09-19-2018 02:23 AM

Have a new video on wallpaper change and boot logo change but I cant post it since I dont pay MBworld..

bucktown 09-19-2018 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7557432)
Have a new video on wallpaper change and boot logo change but I cant post it since I dont pay MBworld..

Why you wouldn't become a paid sponsor I have no idea, considering you have tens if not a hundred interested parties in this thread alone, not counting what you might have site-wide. A little clear explanation and a reasonably done v2 demonstration video and you'd have people lining up to order, myself included.

Chris The Swede 09-19-2018 02:50 AM

You know what it cost???? Cant afford it..And Im not here to sell..I have NEVER said buy from me or posted a link to my store. Im here to help..Im here as a BIG Mercedes enthusiast wich Ive been for 25 years now modding MBs...I should not have to pay to help just because my channel logo is in the beginning of the video as a copyright so no other steal my video wich happened before.

I have been a member here helping out for FREE since the forum started..(Under different names...)

csufy 09-19-2018 10:38 AM

root
 
Anyone rooted yet?

Butta 09-19-2018 12:48 PM

Finally done my install. Shout out Chris for the spare cable. Wrapped my trim in carbon fiber while I had the parts out.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ee5fd86fd0.jpg

Tacocat 09-19-2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by bucktown (Post 7557436)
Why you wouldn't become a paid sponsor I have no idea, considering you have tens if not a hundred interested parties in this thread alone, not counting what you might have site-wide. A little clear explanation and a reasonably done v2 demonstration video and you'd have people lining up to order, myself included.

Because the third-party management company this forum re-directs to when you try to become a sponsor sucks big time, don't give a crap about what you want, and they want hundreds of dollars each month JUST to be able to post here without being red-flagged or banned. It's actually quite ridiculous and is nothing more than a money-grab; it has nothing to do with the prosperity of the forum or helping the community.

bleach288 09-19-2018 06:56 PM

I have w207, how did you fit all those cables and connector block behind the command
 

Originally Posted by Butta (Post 7557726)
Finally done my install. Shout out Chris for the spare cable. Wrapped my trim in carbon fiber while I had the parts out.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ee5fd86fd0.jpg


Butta 09-19-2018 07:38 PM

There wasn't much room but under the unit you should be able to fit part of the harness. Took me 15 minutes but keep trying, you'll get it eventually. Fished the wires on the glove box side.

dacia 09-19-2018 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7557432)
Have a new video on wallpaper change and boot logo change but I cant post it since I dont pay MBworld..

Chris, are there any plans for V(ersion)3?

bigjule 09-19-2018 11:13 PM

Looks great . Post more pics .. I haven't seen too many with this unit mounted on the facelift 212

Chris The Swede 09-20-2018 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7558077)
Chris, are there any plans for V(ersion)3?

Come on..2 just came out. A smaller 8.3" version is here soon. Thats it.

bigjule 09-20-2018 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7558296)
Come on..2 just came out. A smaller 8.3" version is here soon. Thats it.

8.3? Im def in on that one ... By when u think?

Chris The Swede 09-20-2018 03:06 AM

Its done...Just doin final sw adjustments.

bleach288 09-20-2018 04:55 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d45b096617.jpg
Finally got the command unit in, took way too long. I had to basically force it in while trying to screw in the top two screws. Only issue now is getting gps to work.

OjciecKrzysztof 09-20-2018 06:00 AM

Has anyone managed to solve the problem when the display does not rise after switching on the ignition? Is it possible to connect the power supply differently?
And in general what is the purpose of the battery in this display?

Chris The Swede 09-20-2018 08:16 AM

Rise????

OjciecKrzysztof 09-20-2018 08:27 AM

Sorry for my poor English...

After switching on the ignition, the display goes out and does not start again. I have to reset it.

Few people above had the same problem.

choitwao 09-20-2018 08:54 AM

The music function (next, previous song on steering wheel and the radio) are basically useless after installing the head unit. Any idea how to integrate it?

amgggg... 09-20-2018 10:21 AM

I'm ready to permanently locate the GPS antenna, and understand that it's easy work to route the cable into the A-pillar and headliner.

My question is: what's the best way to route the cable through (or under?) the dash and up to the A-pillar?

ftanha 09-22-2018 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7557432)
Have a new video on wallpaper change and boot logo change but I cant post it since I dont pay MBworld..

Hi Chris,
I watched you latest video on how to change the boot logo. I tried to put some images on my SD but I couldn't see them even I clicked on search icon. what type of file does it support?
thanks in advance for your support

Chris The Swede 09-22-2018 07:38 AM

I didnt say SD. I said USB.

Tennessee 09-22-2018 12:43 PM

V2 SETTINGS
 
I'm a first time Mercedes owner and this is my first post to this forum.

I was really excited to install this 10.25 Android screen. Mine came in on Thursday and I had no issues with installing it until the end when I had to spend 3 hours trying to get the ntg4.5 back in.

At any rate, I just installed this into my CLA250 and I have sound from YouTube and other internet apps. Bluetooth is stopping after a few seconds of sound. I have the original blue tooth that came with the car and the new bluetooth on the device. Do I need to connect both from my phone or just the new device. It seems I can't get any b.t. sound when only connected to the 10.25" device, but if I connect b.t. to both--my car and the new device, I only get sound for a second or two before it stops. When I'm connected to the car only, I get sound but then the V2 isn't synced. Any suggestions?

Further, the FM radio functions don't work on V2. The screen for that is totally unresponsive to touch or controller.

Also, there is a menu to change the steering wheel buttons but I can't understand how to change the settings from that menu. It would be nice to be able to hit the mute button or vol buttons on the steering wheel.

Also, because this is such a new model, all the videos for the previous 10.25 android displays are not helping me.

Why can't they include a manual for crying out loud?

Thanks for any assistance.

Charlii 09-22-2018 03:34 PM

Browse the video in carlife

HarLam 09-22-2018 06:00 PM

Settings password
 
Hi guys,

I'm still having problems setting up my unit fire a 2014 E350. I received a replacement unit from my supplier and on my previous unit the settings password was 111111 (6 ones) but on my current unit, that password or postcode is incorrect. Is there another password that works for these units? Thanks

Tennessee 09-22-2018 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7560171)
Browse the video in carlife

Thank you got the advice. I already did that but found nothing on point.

Tennessee 09-22-2018 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7560171)
Browse the video in carlife

Thank you for the advice. I already did that but found nothing on point.

Tennessee 09-23-2018 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Skeechan (Post 7522448)
Any other option for Internet than WiFi tethering? I have tried USB tethering my Galaxy S8 to the V2 and it is not working. My Galaxy S8 reports tethered but the screen has no connectivity. And the build in SIM supposedly doesn't work outside of mainland China for some reason.

I am trying to set up an automated Internet connectivity when the car starts. Right now I have to manually turn on wifi tethering on my phone every time I get in. Wifi tethering works great, just trying to find a workaround for the manual connection every time. Anyone have a work around for avoiding the manual (turning it on, on the phone every time) tethering?

I use my hotspot on my phone and I clicked on the option to share my connection via bluetooth. Works great but no wifi on my phone while on hotspot but then again I'm not issuing wifi while driving anyway.

400ixl 09-23-2018 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7560235)
Hi guys,

I'm still having problems setting up my unit fire a 2014 E350. I received a replacement unit from my supplier and on my previous unit the settings password was 111111 (6 ones) but on my current unit, that password or postcode is incorrect. Is there another password that works for these units? Thanks

Depending on which menu it should be either 1234, 5678 or 8888

400ixl 09-23-2018 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Tennessee (Post 7560069)
I

Further, the FM radio functions don't work on V2. The screen for that is totally unresponsive to touch or controller.

Also, there is a menu to change the steering wheel buttons but I can't understand how to change the settings from that menu. It would be nice to be able to hit the mute button or vol buttons on the steering wheel.

Also, because this is such a new model, all the videos for the previous 10.25 android displays are not helping me.

Why can't they include a manual for crying out loud?

Thanks for any assistance.

Sounds like you need to find the right channel setting (there are 13 options and its trial and error although 2 or 4 seems to be the most popular).

staradolfo 09-23-2018 12:39 PM

Hello friends, now I am starting to install the android in my w212 E350 2010 :smash:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5997b5043d.png

OjciecKrzysztof 09-24-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by OjciecKrzysztof (Post 7558405)
..........After switching on the ignition, the display goes out and does not start again. I have to reset it.

Few people above had the same problem.

No one has this problem anymore?

Are there any system updates or hopes for this?

Tennessee 09-24-2018 07:18 PM

Version2 Before and after
 
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4230ef610c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4dd4a0b090.jpg

400ixl 09-25-2018 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by OjciecKrzysztof (Post 7561723)
No one has this problem anymore?

Are there any system updates or hopes for this?

I certainly don't have that issue and not really seen it discussed across all of the threads on this head unit. A couple of people had the unit reset itself between boots on random occasions. I think these were V1 units though.

Maybe your unit has a hardware fault. I would contact the supplier.

Chris The Swede 09-25-2018 04:38 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dbfbf944d6.jpg
There is a video on it on my channel.

The screen sits in my black E63 wagon so I think it looks great.

Charlii 09-27-2018 12:53 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2d047c5610.jpgMy display is 9 "ram 4 android 8. Internal memory 32.My car W212 2009. I will install it.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...df8c9423fe.jpg

Chris The Swede 09-27-2018 01:05 PM

That is crap if you ask me...Not the same interface and they think our cable kit is bulky..Here you have TONS of cables AND a big box to hideaway somewhere...

dineshh 09-28-2018 09:26 AM

Anyone have an OBDII scanner paired with V2? I'm having trouble entering the Pin. Tried few apps from the playstore and none of them seems to work.I even tried unpairing my phone and going back to using the Command's phone app. Thatway, I only have one bluetooth device paired. I want to use TorquePro any help will be appreciated.

andr3y_tam 09-28-2018 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7553129)
There is a extra BT box included with the V2. So that is why its different for V2.

hello everybody, hello chris,

i bought tve v2 from aliexpress, figured out most of the tweaks on my own or via forums, but i am not satisfied with the aux jack via mmi audio quality;
i get some white noise, some buzzing, and the v2's balance/fader/equalizer are usless in this regard;
before i was using my apple music subscription via my iphone and tune2air conected through mmi to my ntg4, and the sound quality was excelent.

so my issues are:
1. This unit does not have built in bluetooth output capabilities ( so i can connect to bluetooth mmi adapter).?!

2. Has anyone tryied a groundloop noise isolator for the aux jack to express some quality report ?

3. Has anyone managed to modify the home screen shortcuts besides the navi one?

4. My unit, needs some minutes to show the correct date and time, anyone can relate ?

all in all , i think this unit's capabilities are great, if i can fix the sound quality issue, i would be verry pleased by this ( still am 90% satisfied 😉)

-If anyone is interested, mine has 4g capabilities, and works perfect in Romania ( eastern europe )

cheers

Sly_North 09-28-2018 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7564648)
i get some white noise, some buzzing [...]

Sound level below 16 on the tablet, and raise the volume of the Audio20 (the rotating dial on the center console)


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7564648)
4. My unit, needs some minutes to show the correct date and time, anyone can relate ?

The time+date comes from either a GPS signal (so that's the time your units take to get its GPS position) or from a connected smartphone.

andr3y_tam 09-28-2018 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7564659)
Sound level below 16 on the tablet, and raise the volume of the Audio20 (the rotating dial on the center console)

I have it at 10 , anything over that distorts the bass, fideling with the volume doesnt solve the quality issue, but thank you.

about the time, that sounds about right!

andr3y_tam 09-29-2018 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Tennessee (Post 7560069)
Also, there is a menu to change the steering wheel buttons but I can't understand how to change the settings from that menu. It would be nice to be able to hit the mute button or vol buttons on the steering wheel.

Can you elaborate, wich menu are you talking about?

dacia 09-30-2018 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7564648)
-If anyone is interested, mine has 4g capabilities, and works perfect in Romania ( eastern europe )

What LTE bands are used over there?
Did you install a SIM card into the unit and access the Internet directly from it, no need to tether the phone?
Thanks.

Chris The Swede 10-01-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7566567)
What LTE bands are used over there?
Did you install a SIM card into the unit and access the Internet directly from it, no need to tether the phone?
Thanks.

Works perfect in UK as well.

dacia 10-01-2018 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7566619)
Works perfect in UK as well.

Do you mean the built in SIM slot?
I'd prefer just to put in a cheap data only SIM card to eliminate the need to tether the unit to the phone.

andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7566567)
What LTE bands are used over there?
Did you install a SIM card into the unit and access the Internet directly from it, no need to tether the phone?
Thanks.

Info from the internet :
2100 mhz and 2600 mhz , carrier DiGi

yes, i installed it directly in the slot, made some apn settings, and voilla!

Chris The Swede 10-01-2018 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7566635)
Do you mean the built in SIM slot?
I'd prefer just to put in a cheap data only SIM card to eliminate the need to tether the unit to the phone.

Yes.

Chris The Swede 10-01-2018 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7566640)


Info from the internet :
2100 mhz and 2600 mhz , carrier DiGi

yes, i installed it directly in the slot, made some apn settings, and voilla!

And you are located?

andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7566642)
And you are located?

Romania

400ixl 10-01-2018 08:05 AM

I tried several sim cards in the UK covering all of the providers when I first got the unit and didn't get it to work, even manually entering the APN's as it didn't auto populate them. However, just tried it again and it did eventually work, although it takes over 5 minutes to pick up a signal. The USB dongle connects in under 30 seconds.

Have only tried my Three SIM though, so other providers may or may not work as they use different bands.

Are the two additional antennae on the unit for the mobile signal? If so I will connect those and see if the signal is connected quicker.

andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7566687)
I tried several sim cards in the UK covering all of the providers when I first got the unit and didn't get it to work, even manually entering the APN's as it didn't auto populate them. However, just tried it again and it did eventually work, although it takes over 5 minutes to pick up a signal. The USB dongle connects in under 30 seconds.

Have only tried my Three SIM though, so other providers may or may not work as they use different bands.

Are the two additional antennae on the unit for the mobile signal? If so I will connect those and see if the signal is connected quicker.

After instaling it, it does not recognizes it, i have to reboot the unit!

From my knwoledge, the 2 antenas are for wi-fi.

Chris The Swede 10-01-2018 08:11 AM

Its for wifi.

Chris The Swede 10-01-2018 08:12 AM

Got this from a UK customer:
"I inserted a UK EE SIM card and it works perfectly. Amazing!! Can even make and receive calls and texts from the unit on its now dedicated number. Many thanks for suppling this great product!!"

andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7553060)
HOTT damn, it works. Would very much enjoy seeing a video of maps and audio side by side, especially to see if the audio cuts low of off for directions.


can you please tell me how did u managed this ?

thank you!

400ixl 10-01-2018 08:23 AM

Will see how it goes, if it takes 5 minutes to connect it is useless and I will go back to having the sim in the dongle.

These are all of the things that should be in a user manual for this device. Some much information has to be shared via these forums to get the best out of the unit. Its nearly to the point where it doesn't matter where you buy it from as all the info is online and often quicker than asking the re-seller.

On that topic, Chris, I never got any response from the question I asked about getting the restrictions on what OBD2 bluetooth adaptors can be connected to from the unit. Like many Chinese units they restrict what bluetooth names can be connected to. This limits many of the devices. Mine for example presents itself as CBT but this will not show up in the pairing list to be able to connect to and use Torque.

Had a previous stereo with the same issue that I resolved myself, but meant rooting the unit. I'd rather not do that here if I don't need to.

If there is no chance to get the firmware updated, is there at least a known cheap (sub 20 EUR) bluetooth OBD dongle that is known to work.

Sly_North 10-01-2018 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7566693)
can you please tell me how did u managed this ?thank you!

  • Open the Android settings,
  • Scroll down to the bottom. Do you have "Developer options" ?
    • If not: open the last entry "About device" or something like that,
    • Find the "build number" entry and tap on it 5 times.
    • A message saying "you're now a developer" should appear. Go back to the settings main menu.
  • Open "Developer options",
  • Look for "Multi view" (around the middle of the menu) and enable it.
  • Now, in the recent app view, each app window will have a new button on the top-right corner, to change its shape: tapping on it opens a menu where you can choose between left-side, right-side, or fullscreen.
Here's a video showing the whole process on a phone:

400ixl 10-01-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7566693)
can you please tell me how did u managed this ?

Do you mean getting apps like waze to only display on one half of the screen. If so you need to enable the Android developer option by going to Settings > General > About phone. Then scroll and select Software information > Build number. Now rapidly tap on 'Build Number' five times and you will see the message 'You are now a developer!'

Then in there you will see the option to enable multi view. Once this is enabled, when you use the recent apps list you will be able to set whether the app is full screen, or left half or right half.

andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 09:32 AM


Sly_North 10-01-2018 09:34 AM

The only catch is, one needs to use a different music player app than the base one (as you did); as the original music player is not an app but part of the launcher app: clicking on it would bring it back in fullscreen.

Gee_115 10-01-2018 02:04 PM

Have you guys seen the new release? Do we call this V2S or V2 64gb? This one adds an external bluetooth, anti glare, and 4gb memory. Of course, more expensive though.

Chris do you offer this new version?


andr3y_tam 10-01-2018 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7567002)
Have you guys seen the new release? Do we call this V2S or V2 64gb? This one adds an external bluetooth, anti glare, and 4gb memory. Of course, more expensive though.

Chris do you offer this new version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmQPQBjOWeg&t=1s

It seems to be same unit with better specs, i presume that those 2 adaptares, bluetooth or usb can be fitted also on v2. My problem with that is that the sound comes from rca connection/jack cable before getting into the bluetooth adapter or usb, so basically it will be the same quality. I dont understand how does the usb connection works, as that usb usualy read a usb stick with mp3 files on it...?!


if some one could tell us about the quality of the audio via that BT, or that USB vs standard jack, that would be awesome...

still, i dont understand why didn't they added a standar BT chip in it like any other cheap tablet....

Sly_North 10-01-2018 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by andr3y_tam (Post 7567019)
My problem with that is that the sound comes from rca connection/jack cable before getting into the bluetooth adapter or usb, so basically it will be the same quality. I dont understand how does the usb connection works, as that usb usualy read a usb stick with mp3 files on it...?

That USB is for NTG5, as said in the video: for GLC and the current C, as they don't have an AUX input behind the unit. The USB plug of the adapter gets plugged in the central console, and its other cable has 2 RCA that connect to the Android screen.=initial !important#s3gt_translate_tooltip_mini { display: none !important; }

Butta 10-01-2018 05:06 PM

For those who wanted split screen shots

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c959eed9a4.jpg
Google Maps + Poweramp
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...87f1216745.jpg
Google Maps + MX Player
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f2107007c5.jpg
Poweramp fullscreen

dacia 10-01-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Gee_115 (Post 7567002)
Have you guys seen the new release? Do we call this V2S or V2 64gb? This one adds an external bluetooth, anti glare, and 4gb memory. Of course, more expensive though.

From what I saw on Aliexpress it is about $200 more expensive. That's quite a premium for a small bump in specs.

Gee_115 10-01-2018 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by dacia (Post 7567303)
From what I saw on Aliexpress it is about $200 more expensive. That's quite a premium for a small bump in specs.

I agree. Definitely not worth it. It seems they hold back just to add something later and charge more money. Even smart phones have 4gb of memory why didn't they do that from the start. Also, aren't the older versions supposed to lower in price when a new version comes, I think Ill have the version 2 when the price drops.

Chris The Swede 10-02-2018 03:38 AM

Its just antiglare screen and 64gb. Only difference. That is why I cose not to list it. But can of course do if wanted. Otherwise its identical inc all assesories.

andr3y_tam 10-02-2018 08:22 AM

Im having an issue with the sim card, i get this icon, and nothing seems to fix it, reinserting, rebooting...

it ocasionally looses 4g/3g signal, then it switches to this mode, that i cannot change...

tested with 2 different sim cards from the same carrier...

LE: i’m not able to load the photo from my mobile device



400ixl 10-02-2018 08:29 AM

What is the icon? Is it like a no entry sign (circle with a line from 7 o'lock to 1 o'clock)? I get this for about 5 minutes before it eventually connects.

I need to try it in an area with better signal first before I condemn it to being useless and go back to my dongle which connects in about 20 seconds.

andr3y_tam 10-02-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7567646)
What is the icon? Is it like a no entry sign (circle with a line from 7 o'lock to 1 o'clock)? I get this for about 5 minutes before it eventually connects.

I need to try it in an area with better signal first before I condemn it to being useless and go back to my dongle which connects in about 20 seconds.

yep that’s the one, so far it happened twice in the same spot...

pdsoliman 10-03-2018 01:13 AM

Please help me!! I'll pay!!
 
Y'all, I need help.

The installer I'm using is having a ton of issues installing the V2 screen. I've racked up $1300 in extra install charges, I'm on my second unit that's been shipped, and It doesn't look like this nightmare is going to end.

Ordered it from Chris. Got the first one, had issues, the chinese supplier shipped a new one with new firmware, same issues. Replaced the cables. Nothing.

My car is a 2011 E63 if that matters to any of this. NTG 4.

1) My comand control knob isn't usable for the screen.
2) I have no sound through Aux. I do have sound through the speaker on the screen. The installer has tried a number of the secret menus, with no luck. Is the optical cable supposed to be plugged in? My installer says the car amp won't work if it's not plugged in. Can I use bluetooth? USB?
3) My AVM is a pain. Using the blinker takes me to the stock Comand screen. Reverse uses the stock camera.
4) My AVM is only showing in standard definition. Is there a way to hook it up in HD? it's a 720p camera system. It looks awful.
5) I have no use of the steering wheel buttons. I don't know if i'm supposed to though.

Shy of that, some of it is breathtakingly amazing. Google Maps and Waze work great, Nest cam is amazing. It looks cool as hell. IT JUST WONT WORK.

I WILL PAY $100 IF YOU GIVE ME THE ANSWERS THAT FIX THIS.

Please, I need help!!!

andr3y_tam 10-03-2018 02:16 AM

1. This seems a A/B/AB connector issue
2. Fiber optic must be plugged in back in the command, exactly in the same spot
4. This unit is not hd capable, because of it’s wierd resolution.
5. The steering wheel buttons dont work with the unit by default.

good luck !

Chris The Swede 10-03-2018 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by pdsoliman (Post 7568481)
Y'all, I need help.

The installer I'm using is having a ton of issues installing the V2 screen. I've racked up $1300 in extra install charges, I'm on my second unit that's been shipped, and It doesn't look like this nightmare is going to end.

Ordered it from Chris. Got the first one, had issues, the chinese supplier shipped a new one with new firmware, same issues. Replaced the cables. Nothing.

My car is a 2011 E63 if that matters to any of this. NTG 4.

1) My comand control knob isn't usable for the screen.
2) I have no sound through Aux. I do have sound through the speaker on the screen. The installer has tried a number of the secret menus, with no luck. Is the optical cable supposed to be plugged in? My installer says the car amp won't work if it's not plugged in. Can I use bluetooth? USB?
3) My AVM is a pain. Using the blinker takes me to the stock Comand screen. Reverse uses the stock camera.
4) My AVM is only showing in standard definition. Is there a way to hook it up in HD? it's a 720p camera system. It looks awful.
5) I have no use of the steering wheel buttons. I don't know if i'm supposed to though.

Shy of that, some of it is breathtakingly amazing. Google Maps and Waze work great, Nest cam is amazing. It looks cool as hell. IT JUST WONT WORK.

I WILL PAY $100 IF YOU GIVE ME THE ANSWERS THAT FIX THIS.

Please, I need help!!!

Just mail me and I solve it for free.

400ixl 10-03-2018 04:06 AM

Really need to understand how the fitter has configured it. Sounds like a few issues.

Yes the Fibre optic needs to be fitted. It gets removed from the original block and put into the new harness block in exactly the same place.
How are the A/A A/B block connected? Friom what I have seen on the NGT4 cars A/B is often required. You must cap the then free connection with the supplied additional cap.
What connections do you have on your screen? Is it the round connector, if so fine, if not then you need the additional silver box and must connect up the additional wire.
You then need to use the right channel for the screen to appear and the wheel to work. Default is 2 but for many you need to use 4. However there are 13 to play with and try.
The audio is designed to go across the aux input. If you have the older MMI system and have to use the silver box I believe there is an MMI connector in the kit for this. Otherwise it should be the phono cable into the aux input. You then need to set up your Comand system to use Aux.
Steering wheel buttons still work for OEM functions, but not for the Android unit.

Mark Boshell 10-03-2018 02:57 PM

New 4g - 64g 10.25 inch android headunit
 
Just ordered the new 64g -4g with the Android dongle from Chris at CKM, will let you know what its like when i have fitted it.

Gee_115 10-03-2018 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Boshell (Post 7568855)
Just ordered the new 64g -4g with the Android dongle from Chris at CKM, will let you know what its like when i have fitted it.

What Android dongle are you referring to?

Mark Boshell 10-03-2018 03:51 PM

The dongle advertised on Chris website http://www.ckmcardes********/c-class/glc/1-w-carplay-dongle-for-the-10-25-android-touchscreen

Chris The Swede 10-03-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Boshell (Post 7568900)
The dongle advertised on Chris website http://www.ckmcardes********/c-class...id-touchscreen

Sorry but my web adress is banned and censored on this forum! I cant even send PMs without censoring..

400ixl 10-04-2018 02:01 AM

Well so far the build in 3G/4G sim reader is proving pretty useless. Takes 2-5 minutes to get a signal at start up and then everytime it loses that signal it takes another 2-5 minutes to re-acquire it. Its so long that some of the apps using data do not recover as they have given up retrying. Will leave it in for a few more days to see if anything changes, but at the moment I will be changing back to the dongle to provide a wifi network. The dongle acquires a connection in under 30 seconds and holds it for far longer that the unit. Suggests the aerial in the unit is useless or there is a poor firmware implementation.

Mark Boshell 10-04-2018 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7569347)
Well so far the build in 3G/4G sim reader is proving pretty useless. Takes 2-5 minutes to get a signal at start up and then everytime it loses that signal it takes another 2-5 minutes to re-acquire it. Its so long that some of the apps using data do not recover as they have given up retrying. Will leave it in for a few more days to see if anything changes, but at the moment I will be changing back to the dongle to provide a wifi network. The dongle acquires a connection in under 30 seconds and holds it for far longer that the unit. Suggests the aerial in the unit is useless or there is a poor firmware implementation.

as a work around can you not just use a wifi dongle in the car.

Chris The Swede 10-04-2018 08:30 AM

Or hot spot from phone.

400ixl 10-04-2018 10:12 AM

I was already using a USB powered dongle to create a wifi network for the HU to connect to. I had tried the SIM in it previously but assumed it didn't work as there was no connection for a number of minutes. When Chris reported it did work I tried it again. The above was feedback on trying it for a few days to see how it worked. Seems similar experience to Andr3y_TAM reported in that it keeps dropping and takes an age to reconnect. This IMO makes it pretty useless and is either down to a poor physical aerial or a poor firmware implementation.

Will switch back to the USB dongle before I go anywhere that I need to have navigation running for a new journey.

dacia 10-04-2018 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7569499)
Will switch back to the USB dongle before I go anywhere that I need to have navigation running for a new journey.

Can I ask what "dongle" are you referring to?
Is it a wifi dongle or a SIM dongle?

400ixl 10-05-2018 04:15 AM

Its a 4G dongle that created a wifi hotspot for the HU to connect to.

Tvremote 10-05-2018 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by HarLam (Post 7418770)
Hi guys,

I haven't had time to work on the unit for a few days but still stuck with getting the OEM Comand to come up. I emailed my seller and he says that it is the unit, and I may need a replacement. They had a few listings, 2013-2014 and a 2015 listing. My question is if there is a real difference in the internals in a unit for the 2013 model and 2015 model (mine is a 2014). I'm just trying to figure out if I should just return the unit since I'm not getting anywhere with what I have currently. Maybe Chris (or anyone else) could help me with this. Thanks.

Good to see the Bluetooth audio works, so I won't have to make all the connections to get the AUX -> MMI set up.

did you ever get the oem displayed?

managed to get my screen to boot, but now have no OEM display at all, set the parameter to 4 as well any help?

Sly_North 10-05-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7570418)
did you ever get the oem displayed?
managed to get my screen to boot, but now have no OEM display at all, set the parameter to 4 as well any help?

Unfortunately you have a NTG4 unit, which makes things more complex (NTG5 have a simplified connection; but they don't have the AUX input behind the unit and they need the AUX to USB converter) : you first have the issue of making sure your A, B and A/B cables are connected properly for your car and your unit (if your wheel control works, it's probably fine); then you have to try and find which screen resolution+setting (that number you set to 4) is the correct one.
The video from the original unit is the cable with the blue plug connecting to the small harness behind your screen: also make sure all that is correctly connected.
Good luck!

Tvremote 10-05-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7570428)
Unfortunately you have a NTG4 unit, which makes things more complex (NTG5 have a simplified connection; but they don't have the AUX input behind the unit and they need the AUX to USB converter) : you first have the issue of making sure your A, B and A/B cables are connected properly for your car and your unit (if your wheel control works, it's probably fine); then you have to try and find which screen resolution+setting (that number you set to 4) is the correct one.
The video from the original unit is the cable with the blue plug connecting to the small harness behind your screen: also make sure all that is correctly connected.
Good luck!

ive still got it all out and unplugged so i can do a bit of changing. im currently A - A/B AND separate B cable connected to A clip

and my CAN displayed code is correct as of what the guide says( YT KF ) I believe,

do you know where this screen resolution setting is?

Sly_North 10-05-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tvremote (Post 7570435)
ive still got it all out and unplugged so i can do a bit of changing. im currently A - A/B AND separate B cable connected to A clip

and my CAN displayed code is correct as of what the guide says( YT KF ) I believe,

do you know where this screen resolution setting is?

The screen resolution+colors+whatever is set by the display setting you set to 4. That's the only way to configurate, and you need to find the correct number for your car (or find a post with the number from someone having a similar car).

400ixl 10-05-2018 01:00 PM

Does the car on the left side of the interface show things like the doors opening? That will give a basic clue as to whether it is getting the signals from the car. Should then be a case of finding the right channel.

Tvremote 10-05-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7570440)
The screen resolution+colors+whatever is set by the display setting you set to 4. That's the only way to configurate, and you need to find the correct number for your car (or find a post with the number from someone having a similar car).


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7570446)
Does the car on the left side of the interface show things like the doors opening? That will give a basic clue as to whether it is getting the signals from the car. Should then be a case of finding the right channel.


yes I get car doors opening,


same as this woman here, there is only 10 options i can see, and i access the same menu as her

400ixl 10-05-2018 01:11 PM

Ah, that's the V1 unit. Not sure then as never had one. But yes, you need to choose which style of interface you have and then try going through the channels.

Heisenberg5070 10-05-2018 09:24 PM

is there an update on this?? ide like to know since my aux cord is in the center console

400ixl 10-06-2018 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7570825)
is there an update on this?? ide like to know since my aux cord is in the center console

Update on what? So many parts to this thread.

Chris The Swede 10-06-2018 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7570825)
is there an update on this?? ide like to know since my aux cord is in the center console

V2 has a BT conection module added to the kit.

400ixl 10-06-2018 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7570930)
V2 has a BT conection module added to the kit.

Mine didn't and I wouldn't use it over the aux phono if it was as it won't be as direct and will have lag against video to sound. Can understand the C class people wanting it as their current solution isn't good. For the cars with the phono aux in the console, best to use that.

JuanK20 10-09-2018 11:37 AM

I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these units. The install looks half straightforward and half complicated. Can Anyone in NYC recommend where to get this installed? Or anyone want to get paid to install this for me?

Chris The Swede 10-09-2018 11:58 AM

Much better to do it your self. I can say 80% of all proffesional intallers dont succsed because they overthink it and make it more complicated than it is...

Michael57 10-09-2018 12:25 PM

Hello Everyone,
I'm Michael from France, I'm 40 and I ve got a A klasse W176 250.

I installed last week a 10.25 inch screen, ordered on Aliexpress (I did not know that a member of this forum sold that otherwise I would have ordered at him). I have some problems and I have not found an answer in the previous pages.
Everything is well installed, the screen works and I have the original commands. I have set the resolution of the screen and I have access to the original functions.

The problem is when I put the key on the car the screen starts, everything is ok. And when I start the car the screen cut and regularly remains black (sometimes with music). I am obliged to reboot with the button of side to restart the screen.

Do you have an idea to solve my problem?

Thank you.

OjciecKrzysztof 10-11-2018 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by Michael57 (Post 7573123)
Hello Everyone,
I'm Michael from France, I'm 40 and I ve got a A klasse W176 250.

I installed last week a 10.25 inch screen, ordered on Aliexpress (I did not know that a member of this forum sold that otherwise I would have ordered at him). I have some problems and I have not found an answer in the previous pages.
Everything is well installed, the screen works and I have the original commands. I have set the resolution of the screen and I have access to the original functions.

The problem is when I put the key on the car the screen starts, everything is ok. And when I start the car the screen cut and regularly remains black (sometimes with music). I am obliged to reboot with the button of side to restart the screen.

Do you have an idea to solve my problem?

Thank you.

I had the same problem in GLK, the above topic is dominated by advertising shopping in a Swedish store, if you ask for help, it will send you back to your seller.
My salesman responded to me instantly - in some Mercedes models you have to do as below.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59d39ac62a.jpg


"for your car information, we know the current and the voltage are unstable.
In the power cables, there is a black box, named "filter & fuse box". Your problem is caused by this "filter & fuse box", please cut this box, and connect the yellow wires direct to the yellow wire, and black wire direct to the black wire.
Then check whether the problem is still on or not."

Chris The Swede 10-11-2018 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by OjciecKrzysztof (Post 7574651)
I had the same problem in GLK, the above topic is dominated by advertising shopping in a Swedish store, if you ask for help, it will send you back to your seller.
My salesman responded to me instantly - in some Mercedes models you have to do as below.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59d39ac62a.jpg


"for your car information, we know the current and the voltage are unstable.
In the power cables, there is a black box, named "filter & fuse box". Your problem is caused by this "filter & fuse box", please cut this box, and connect the yellow wires direct to the yellow wire, and black wire direct to the black wire.
Then check whether the problem is still on or not."

??????
Advertising???? Do you even know me and what i DO HERE on the forum???

Good post though..

Chris The Swede 10-11-2018 03:57 AM

AND that is US you actually got the solution anf answer from so......!!

Marko2011 10-11-2018 01:49 PM

I can say Chris is big help here around for all kind of problems we experience, he helped me solve some issues i had with car.
Hi Chris and thanks again :)

Anyway, i was wondering anyone know shop or store in SLOVENIA where they sell these Android devices.
Thanks

pdsoliman 10-12-2018 08:43 AM

More problems
 
ok everyone, i’m Back!


I solved the no sound issue. Problem was that the A/B plugs were incorrect. You also need to restart the screen after swapping those cables, otherwise it won’t work.

Here are the problems i’m Having now:
1) I can’t seem to tether it to my iPhone. The option is greeted out in settings.
2) AVM does not work. If I have if set to on, when I use my blinker it cuts to the stock command screen till I turn off my blinker.
3) the unit’s internal speaker is on. I think I turned it up accidentally while trying to figure out how to fix my car, and I can’t figure out how to turn it down.
4) BT for Telephone is really poor. Are you all using the unit to pair or the car?
5) the resolution is a bit off in the apps. IE Apple Music doesn’t look Right. Is there a way to fix?
6) Do I need the car play dongle?

V6DON 10-13-2018 08:39 PM

No sound from android unit on w212
 
Hi guys so I fitted 1 of the 10.25 android screens to my 2010 w212. But seeing as I don't have a aux port I am not getting any sound from anything being played on the android unit via BT, Videos, YouTube etc only When using the old original radio/CD sound works fine. My kit didn't come with the rca cable but did come with a male aux which I plugged into the female aux that I put into the mmi bit in the glove box but still no luck. I have also tried getting up the secret menu but it seems like I have a different set up than all the others posted possibly a newer version. Any help would be appreciated

V6DON 10-13-2018 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by pdsoliman (Post 7575534)
ok everyone, i’m Back!


I solved the no sound issue. Problem was that the A/B plugs were incorrect. You also need to restart the screen after swapping those cables, otherwise it won’t work.

Here are the problems i’m Having now:
1) I can’t seem to tether it to my iPhone. The option is greeted out in settings.
2) AVM does not work. If I have if set to on, when I use my blinker it cuts to the stock command screen till I turn off my blinker.
3) the unit’s internal speaker is on. I think I turned it up accidentally while trying to figure out how to fix my car, and I can’t figure out how to turn it down.
4) BT for Telephone is really poor. Are you all using the unit to pair or the car?
5) the resolution is a bit off in the apps. IE Apple Music doesn’t look Right. Is there a way to fix?
6) Do I need the car play dongle?

Hi mate, did you have A plugged into A/B and B plugged into B? as thats how mine came but i tried swapping it with the A socket that came with the kit but the original radio etc didnt work. do you have a aux port in yours?
with the Tethering mine works fine i just have to put the password into the screen thats displayed on the phone.
cant help with the other questions as i havent got mine to work yet.

Chris The Swede 10-14-2018 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7576729)
Hi guys so I fitted 1 of the 10.25 android screens to my 2010 w212. But seeing as I don't have a aux port I am not getting any sound from anything being played on the android unit via BT, Videos, YouTube etc only When using the old original radio/CD sound works fine. My kit didn't come with the rca cable but did come with a male aux which I plugged into the female aux that I put into the mmi bit in the glove box but still no luck. I have also tried getting up the secret menu but it seems like I have a different set up than all the others posted possibly a newer version. Any help would be appreciated

If you dont have AUX the sound goes via the quadlock and needs to be activated by the screen. Then it works normal.

Marko2011 10-14-2018 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7576849)
If you dont have AUX the sound goes via the quadlock and needs to be activated by the screen. Then it works normal.

Isnt maybe better to always connect trought quadlock to free up aux slot in glovebox for other devices if needed.

Chris The Swede 10-14-2018 05:59 AM

Cant be done since it uses the AUX pins.

V6DON 10-14-2018 06:18 AM

Is this done through the secret menu as I can't get this up either. I have attached a picture of how my menu looks. Not sure if it's because this is android 7.1 or it's just a different screen from everyone else's. Any help Will be appreciated as I have had my command unit out for the last 3 days now trying to work out how to get it sorted so would just like to to finally get the command unit screwed back in and not just hanging out. Thanks
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7c6dec6d8c.png

Michael57 10-14-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by OjciecKrzysztof (Post 7574651)
I had the same problem in GLK, the above topic is dominated by advertising shopping in a Swedish store, if you ask for help, it will send you back to your seller.
My salesman responded to me instantly - in some Mercedes models you have to do as below.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59d39ac62a.jpg


"for your car information, we know the current and the voltage are unstable.
In the power cables, there is a black box, named "filter & fuse box". Your problem is caused by this "filter & fuse box", please cut this box, and connect the yellow wires direct to the yellow wire, and black wire direct to the black wire.
Then check whether the problem is still on or not."

Thank you for your answer, have you tested this solution and does it change anything?

Regarding Chris, I have never dealt with him and so I will not comment on him for good or bad.

Regards

Chris The Swede 10-14-2018 08:32 AM

In what way would it ever be bad???:nix:

Michael57 10-14-2018 10:05 AM

Hello Chris,
No problem, I was just answering OjciecKrzysztof who was talking about you.
On my side I have no problem with you or with anyone :y

Have a nice day and if you have an idea for my problem thank you for letting me know.

Regards
Michael

Michael57 10-14-2018 01:12 PM

I tried this afternoon to remove the filter box without much believe it.
But it works, now the screen is not cut when I start the car.

Thanks for the help. :y

pdsoliman 10-15-2018 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7576735)
Hi mate, did you have A plugged into A/B and B plugged into B? as thats how mine came but i tried swapping it with the A socket that came with the kit but the original radio etc didnt work. do you have a aux port in yours?
with the Tethering mine works fine i just have to put the password into the screen thats displayed on the phone.
cant help with the other questions as i havent got mine to work yet.

Yes - Swapping the A/B worked (according to my installer). However, you need to restart the screen for it to work.

I have an aux port.

Tethering is still greyed out no matter what i do.

Chris The Swede 10-15-2018 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Michael57 (Post 7577025)
I tried this afternoon to remove the filter box without much believe it.
But it works, now the screen is not cut when I start the car.

Thanks for the help. :y

There you go..

pdsoliman 10-15-2018 12:38 PM

On a side note, i'm happy to give Chris and Car Life mall a detailed review if i ever get my product working.

Here's an update of where I am. Please please please help if you have any idea how to fix this. I have a 2011 E63

1) I can’t seem to tether it to my iPhone. The option is greyed out in settings
- Still have this issue. I had hoped once i got the Car Play dongle fixed, this would work, but it doesn't. I have no idea how to enable. (see photo below)

2) AVM does not work. If I have if set to on, when I use my blinker it cuts to the stock command screen till I turn off my blinker. I do not have stock AVM, it's an after market one if it matters.
- Still have this issue. Does the 1-13 Screen options on the hidden menu impact this? Anyone have AVM with their car?

3) the unit’s internal speaker is on. I think I turned it up accidentally while trying to figure out how to fix my car, and I can’t figure out how to turn it down.
- I think this stopped.

4) BT for Telephone is really poor. Are you all using the unit to pair or the car?
- Where is the microphone on the screen? on the back? is anyone using BT on the screen for their phone? How is their call quality? Is it possible to add a microphone?

5) the resolution is a bit off in the apps. IE Apple Music doesn’t look Right. Is there a way to fix?
- Waze, Google Maps, Apple Music, Sirius look very smushed and have the bottom of the screen cut off because of the odd dimensions of the screen. Has anyone figured out how to fix this?

6) Do I need the car play dongle?
- Ok I had purchased this, finally got it to work. Didn't realize I needed to download a special app from the website (not google play store) to get this to work. This has dramatically improved my opinion of the screen. Google Maps, Waze, Apple Maps all work better within this program than on the screen directly. Sirius and Apple Music aren't as "pretty" but are much more functional with Car Play.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dd59d6207f.jpg

dineshh 10-15-2018 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7536674)
Has anyone been able to install a front facing camera w this or do we still need a interface for that to happen

I'm interested in installing a front facing camera too. I have the OEM reverse camera and I like to understand the following (I have a V2 and wiring for the V1 may be different):

There is an RCA Video in plug and a CCD 12v supply blue wire. I presume these are meant for the reversing camera. If I were to use these two connectors for a front facing camera, can someone with the unit on a test bed or out confirm that the video from the camera input breaks through to the display when 12 v applied to the camera and the Camera is on? Unfortunately, my display is mounted and I don't want to open the dash again if these connections can't be used the way I intend to.
If this work, I will put a switch under dash to supply the 12v to the camera.

thanks in advance for your help.

400ixl 10-15-2018 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by pdsoliman (Post 7577445)
Yes - Swapping the A/B worked (according to my installer). However, you need to restart the screen for it to work.

I have an aux port.

Tethering is still greyed out no matter what i do.

If you are trying to use your phone as the hotspot, then you create the tether on the phone which gives a wifi hotspot for the head unit to connect to. You would only do it on the head unit if you have a sim fitted to the unit and were trying to create a connection for the phone to use that sim card.

Butta 10-15-2018 04:58 PM

Anyone else getting a black screen on start up? I get it at least a few times a week and it's getting really annoying to have to unplug the screen every time. Should I return it to the manufacturer?


pdsoliman 10-15-2018 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7577833)
If you are trying to use your phone as the hotspot, then you create the tether on the phone which gives a wifi hotspot for the head unit to connect to. You would only do it on the head unit if you have a sim fitted to the unit and were trying to create a connection for the phone to use that sim card.

Ok, after reading a couple of sites, i think i may be using poor terminology:

For internet access - I want to use my iPhone with the USB cable to tether to my android screen, rather than wifi.

pdsoliman 10-15-2018 06:25 PM

AH I see what you are saying... the tethering is for the head unit to provide internet. OK, that makes a ton more sense.

I still want to provide internet to the head unit via USB from my iPhone. Does anyone know if that is possible?

V6DON 10-15-2018 07:20 PM

Finally got it sorted there is a secret menu if u press and hold on functions in car info. Now I need to try sorting out the screen not coming on after a cold start. I will try out the fuse box method and see how it goes. Am I meant to remove the fuse box completely then? If so that will surely free up some space for my command unit to slide back in. I also found that pulling any excess wire to the top behind the screen helps with the unit going back further then. 👍

V6DON 10-16-2018 05:46 PM

So I have only got sound from left speakers when using video or music player (fine when using original radio/cd). I saw a post on this but going through all these post is a nightmare. Can any shed some light on this?

Also there's a wire attached to the aux labelled BT VCC anyone know what this is for?

im having trouble setting the amg logo as well, I get the settings up but it's in Chinese but it ain't hard to work out it's probably for Benz or amg logo but after selecting 1 the rotating loading symbol comes up, I waited 10 minutes with it still loading without any change, anyone else had this issue??

Charlii 10-17-2018 12:15 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d573999646.jpg
Please help.This plug for what is it?

Sly_North 10-17-2018 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7579353)
Please help.This plug for what is it?

From this thread :
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b22098c6d7.jpg

Charlii 10-17-2018 01:10 PM

Thank you : г

jonUF02 10-18-2018 01:31 PM

What are the benefits
 
This is a super long thread of mostly troubleshooting finicky installation of this device. Can someone summarize the benefits of this unit???

Is it mainly just to have a larger display screen? The 3rd party navigation apps seem to require cellular data tethering and do not always work. For me, I really dislike the current trend of screens in many cars, including lower-end MB's ,looking like stuck-on tablets; like an after-thought and not part of the original design. I feel like the look of the stuck-on tablet screen is a downgrade.

The factory Harmon-Kardon system in my 2012 model E550 does everything I want it to do (after addition of a real subwoofer). I rarely use the built-in navigation, opting for just using my Google nav on my phone, and sticking it in a stand, unless traveling long distance. The only thing that could possibly sway me to need anything more would be the new style of full integration with phones, Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. It does not seem like this unit offers such seamless integration.

The one point that I thought was "neat" was the Torque app displaying the gauges, but probably would not use it very much, and totally unnecessary.

Chris The Swede 10-19-2018 02:52 AM

And a phone stuck in a stand looks good and oem?? ;) Thats the worst I know..
Well it totaly of course depends on what you want to do in a car.

These are just a few things:
Many navi apps work without a conection. Or I would say most of them. And they are free to update. Not like OEM maps that cost a fortune and they are way more modern and up to date than OEM.
You can mirror your phone to the unit if you like that.
You can have Carplay or Android Auto
You can stream Music from phone
You can see video in motion in HD
You can add apps like youtube and netflix
You can do custom startup logos and wallpapers
You can get wheather info app or almost any app you like.
You can add any back up camera you like and get guide lines that is built in
Or dash cam or 360.
And so on....

So as I said. Depens a bit on what you use in a car.... For my self I just love the modern OEM look of it

HarLam 10-19-2018 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by 400ixl (Post 7560429)
Depending on which menu it should be either 1234, 5678 or 8888

thanks for the reply. Tried all of those but none of them work. I have a version one (original) and this is what's listed on the version tab. (Attached pic) any other passwords?

I really just need to install Google play, since they sent me s Chinese version that doesn't have it installed. I've installed Google services but there's an error and I think I need to change one of the android settings, but can't get into the settings menus. Any help would be appreciated.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...564875cc52.jpg

Perocat 10-19-2018 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 7402854)
So I bought a bluetooth OBDII scanner that plugs into my OBDII. This way I can see information such as RPM, speed, boost, temp etc on the screen. Except I can't get it to pair. When I go to my bluetooth setting, I see the OBDII on the list but when I try to pair, it won't pop up the screen to where I can enter the pairing code. Do you guys know of any bluetooth OBDII devices that do not require a pairing code?

This is the one I bought originally but kept coming off.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


This is the new one which was a firmer fit and doesn't come off.
KOBRA OBD2 Scanner Bluetooth Scan Tool



UPDATE: Solved my issue
Found this app to pre program pin code for bluetooth connections. Well worth the $1.99 price tag for what I'm trying to accomplish.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...con.btautopair

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f69b5609b6.jpg

I purchased Torque Pro from the play store and here is a screen shot.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...g.prowl.torque

Not sure I like the interface of Torque Pro so I will keep searching for one that I like.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...438adaa469.jpg

Thank you very much!!!! You made my day! I also wrote to the support for this thing and they said they don't have a solution.......

jonUF02 10-19-2018 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7580785)
And a phone stuck in a stand looks good and oem?? ;) Thats the worst I know..
Well it totaly of course depends on what you want to do in a car.

These are just a few things:
Many navi apps work without a conection. Or I would say most of them. And they are free to update. Not like OEM maps that cost a fortune and they are way more modern and up to date than OEM.
You can mirror your phone to the unit if you like that.
You can have Carplay or Android Auto
You can stream Music from phone
You can see video in motion in HD
You can add apps like youtube and netflix
You can do custom startup logos and wallpapers
You can get wheather info app or almost any app you like.
You can add any back up camera you like and get guide lines that is built in
Or dash cam or 360.
And so on....

So as I said. Depens a bit on what you use in a car.... For my self I just love the modern OEM look of it


Most of what you mention I can already do with the stock screen, or don't care about. The one feature I would like is the full Android Auto integration. I don't see much documentation about this screen, and the videos I found are just basic installation and first operation. It would be great if you could make some videos or blog type posts with pics showing the functionality of Android Auto (and Apple CarPlay for the Apple people).

I still think the look of the integrated stock screen is better than the big screen popping out, but for that feature, I may consider it. Where I can put my phone away and see all the functions on the car screen.

Chris The Swede 10-19-2018 11:11 AM

Eh what??? No you cant!! What super version of comand do you have then?

jonUF02 10-19-2018 11:36 AM

Many navi apps work without a conection. Or I would say most of them. And they are free to update. Not like OEM maps that cost a fortune and they are way more modern and up to date than OEM.
You can mirror your phone to the unit if you like that.
--- OK, can download Google maps of your typical area for offline NAV, but not a big deal, just doing it on my phone is pretty easy when I need it. Don't use navigation more than maybe once a week at most, I'm familiar with my city

You can have Carplay or Android Auto
*** please show me how the functionality is with this, highly desired for Android, like new vehicles.

You can stream Music from phone
--- Already can do this, but mostly I listen to Sirius radio subscription.

You can see video in motion in HD
-- Possible to do this on stock setup, but I don't care about it, not going to watch video while driving

You can add apps like youtube and netflix
-- Never going to be a useful feature for me, don't care.

You can do custom startup logos and wallpapers
-- don't care

You can get weather info app or almost any app you like
-- don't care. I live in Florida, weather is either hot or raining and hot, just look through the window.
--- Torque app is a cool novelty, but probably would never leave it on the display. No reason to monitor real time sensor telemetry on a completely stock tune vehicle.

You can add any back up camera you like and get guide lines that is built in
-- already have backup camera, don't want to stick on any after-market cameras, mainly I just do it old-school and look behind me, because I don't trust cameras or mirrors backing up

Or dash cam or 360.
--- don't care, don't have or need a dash cam. If I got one it would just be passively recording in the event I needed it for legal evidence.

Chris The Swede 10-19-2018 11:42 AM

No not without buying alot of extra modules and so on. So that means you cant do it OEM...

And what you dont care about is you..As Is said. It depends on what you want....Most of these things are important to most users.

So I dont think this is for you. Your not intrested in almost anything so dont even know why you look at it?

jonUF02 10-19-2018 12:55 PM

The price would be worth it if the Android Auto full integration works like a new car, since there is no other option to upgrade this feature in a 2012 model. New car sales are highly dependent on technology upgrades because not much else is different unless you get into wildly expensive special performance models. Other than tech and some body lines, not much is different in every day driving functionality from a 2010 E350 to a 2018 E350.

In my CLK430 I could just swap out the entire unit for the latest Pioneer system with all the new tech features at any time. It gave a 2000 vehicle the same feel as a 2012 vehicle in terms of available technology. Too bad they make things so complicated in newer vehicles.

dineshh 10-20-2018 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Perocat (Post 7580789)
Thank you very much!!!! You made my day! I also wrote to the support for this thing and they said they don't have a solution.......

couldn't find the bluetooth app on the play store. Without it, I can't pair the OBDII adaptor.

andr3y_tam 10-21-2018 10:41 AM

Sound quality
 

hello guys,

does everyone have this sound quality, or is it just my unit?!

i tried using a ground loop noise isolator with no difference in sound quality.

the ideea is, that the buzzing occours only when the unit sends audio signal through the aux, while when it is paused, it does not make any buzzing sound...

any feedback is appreciated!

Perocat 10-21-2018 02:39 PM

Here you are:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...vaig.forcepair

Vicky-amg 10-21-2018 07:04 PM

Unit not turning on
 
HELP!!!
Can someone be a star and guide me in the right direction please.
so I got a screen given to me from a friend had it fitted and worked absolutely fine apart from the screen being blank sometimes. So my handy man found this thread and saw that removing the little black fuse box and rewiring the black and yellow wire would resolve this but in the process he accidently touched 1 of the yellow wires onto the metal on the back of the unit causing a spark and now the whole unit and screen doesn't want to come on 😔😭.
what do I do I am going on a road trip soon and I need my music!!!
please someone HELP!!!
I'm hoping it's nothing too serious because I don't want my handy man to feel any more guilty than he already is bless him.
xxx

dacia 10-22-2018 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by jonUF02 (Post 7580996)
Many navi apps work without a conection. Or I would say most of them. And they are free to update. Not like OEM maps that cost a fortune and they are way more modern and up to date than OEM.
You can mirror your phone to the unit if you like that.
--- OK, can download Google maps of your typical area for offline NAV, but not a big deal, just doing it on my phone is pretty easy when I need it. Don't use navigation more than maybe once a week at most, I'm familiar with my city

You can have Carplay or Android Auto
*** please show me how the functionality is with this, highly desired for Android, like new vehicles.

You can stream Music from phone
--- Already can do this, but mostly I listen to Sirius radio subscription.

You can see video in motion in HD
-- Possible to do this on stock setup, but I don't care about it, not going to watch video while driving

You can add apps like youtube and netflix
-- Never going to be a useful feature for me, don't care.

You can do custom startup logos and wallpapers
-- don't care

You can get weather info app or almost any app you like
-- don't care. I live in Florida, weather is either hot or raining and hot, just look through the window.
--- Torque app is a cool novelty, but probably would never leave it on the display. No reason to monitor real time sensor telemetry on a completely stock tune vehicle.

You can add any back up camera you like and get guide lines that is built in
-- already have backup camera, don't want to stick on any after-market cameras, mainly I just do it old-school and look behind me, because I don't trust cameras or mirrors backing up

Or dash cam or 360.
--- don't care, don't have or need a dash cam. If I got one it would just be passively recording in the event I needed it for legal evidence.

This thread is here for technical support for those who have bought the screen already.
You are too lazy to read through it and then argue with someone who is helping you out..
Chris has explained its benefits, you can make up your mind without arguing.
Nobody is forcing you to buy the unit.
You don't like it fine, shouldn't waste your time posting here.

As for the 2010 E350 and the 2108 E350 being almost the same perhaps a little reading is in order.

First of all there is no 2018 E350, it is E450 now.
"In 2013, the E-Class was comprehensively facelifted, featuring significant styling changes, fuel economy improvements and updated safety features. Daimler invested close to €1 billion into the development of the extensive refresh, making it likely the most expensive mid-life facelift in the history of the automobile."
Also: "The E-Class received the latest in autonomous driving technology for use at highway speeds, capable of piloting itself up to speeds of 130 mph (210 km/h) for up to 2 minutes"
Try that in your 2010.

Chris The Swede 10-22-2018 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Vicky-amg (Post 7582681)
HELP!!!
Can someone be a star and guide me in the right direction please.
so I got a screen given to me from a friend had it fitted and worked absolutely fine apart from the screen being blank sometimes. So my handy man found this thread and saw that removing the little black fuse box and rewiring the black and yellow wire would resolve this but in the process he accidently touched 1 of the yellow wires onto the metal on the back of the unit causing a spark and now the whole unit and screen doesn't want to come on 😔😭.
what do I do I am going on a road trip soon and I need my music!!!
please someone HELP!!!
I'm hoping it's nothing too serious because I don't want my handy man to feel any more guilty than he already is bless him.
xxx

Your screwed affriad. Need full repair or a new screen.

V6DON 10-22-2018 05:25 AM

9 times out of 10 it’s usually just a blown fuse. Fuses are located in the engine and trunk.

Chris The Swede 10-22-2018 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7582918)
9 times out of 10 it’s usually just a blown fuse. Fuses are located in the engine and trunk.

I think they are smart enough to check that first. And the comand would also not come on then.

Vicky-amg 10-22-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7582920)
I think they are smart enough to check that first. And the comand would also not come on then.

we haven't checked the fuses yet. Which fuses are we looking at and how do we tell if they are blown? 🤔 sorry guy but we are just not that mechanically inclined we just about managed to get the screen on 🤗

Sly_North 10-22-2018 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Vicky-amg (Post 7582681)
So my handy man found this thread and saw that removing the little black fuse box and rewiring the black and yellow wire would resolve this but in the process he accidently touched 1 of the yellow wires onto the metal on the back of the unit causing a spark and now the whole unit and screen doesn't want to come on ����.

If there was a spark, it's from the side of the cable connected to the car to the metal case of the unit, which is a ground. So the Android screen was not involved and is fine.
As the original unit is not powering up either, I'm thinking about a fuse too.

Here's a page about the fuseboxes of a 2011 E-Class. Apparently you want to check the 26, 67, 69, 84 and 78, in the trunk's fuse box. To check a fuse, pull it out and look through the transparent plastic: if you see a continuous wire going from one pin to the other one, the fuse is fine; if you see a breakage in the wire, the fuse blown out and it needs to be replaced.
http://www.carcaremadeeasy.com/Image...pare-fuses.jpg

pdsoliman 10-22-2018 11:06 AM

AVM help needed
 
I’ve fixed most of the other issues but I have one big one remaining:

AVM –

I have “Turn to Start AVM” on.
  • When I use my turn signal, the COMAND screen comes up, as if I pressed the “Car Device” button on the main screen.
  • Reverse mode selection – Works fine with stock camera. If I set it to Installation (CVBS) mode, it brings up a black screen with only the sensor guides. No video.
  • My 360 Camera works fine using the “DVR” button on the main screen.


I think that somehow a video in line from COMAND is going to where the 360 camera video in should be plugged in, but I have no idea how this install is supposed to look.


Please help!



Maallen40 10-22-2018 11:16 AM

Its a great unit. I upgraded back in early summer and I love it. I'm not having any trouble with Auto switching, it seems to switch back and forth just fine. As for Navigation, I use the IGO app which came installed in my unit. I like it way better than my stock Nav. I use Media Monkey for my music and videos and it works well also. The only thing I absolutely hate about this unit is because it's an Android system. is that it takes forever to get your music going. Gone are the days of turning your key and having the last selection you had playing continue.....unless of course you shut down your car using the stock system. If I'm listening to a song and stop and run into Timmy's, when I come out I have to spend a couple of mins starting the app again....other than that...I'm glad I made the upgrade. Enjoy

Vicky-amg 10-23-2018 04:54 AM

Thanks a million V6DON and Sly north it turns out it was only a fuse. Fuse 26 in the engine bay had blown. I have now changed it and removed the little black fuse box and screen is working fine for now, I still need to give it some more starts before confirming this has actually resolved the blank screen issue so will update you guys in due course.

whilst I'm here I was wondering if my controls on the steering wheel are meant to work on apps such as music player as only the volume is functional.
Also is my centre control knob meant to work on the android section of the screen as mine only works on the original screen section.
not a big deal if it doesn't and wouldn't be surprised if it can't but I just read somewhere that it is supposed to.

Sly_North 10-23-2018 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Vicky-amg (Post 7583913)
Thanks a million V6DON and Sly north it turns out it was only a fuse. Fuse 26 in the engine bay had blown. I have now changed it and removed the little black fuse box and screen is working fine for now, I still need to give it some more starts before confirming this has actually resolved the blank screen issue so will update you guys in due course.

whilst I'm here I was wondering if my controls on the steering wheel are meant to work on apps such as music player as only the volume is functional.
Also is my centre control knob meant to work on the android section of the screen as mine only works on the original screen section.
not a big deal if it doesn't and wouldn't be surprised if it can't but I just read somewhere that it is supposed to.

There's a settings somewhere to use the pad/knob + the steering wheel buttons for the Android screen or for the origin unit. It was on for me. It works only in apps that support keyboard inputs (most of the already installed ones do).

As you have a v1 screen, I'm not sure exactly where it is - probably in the hidden menu that's accessed by pressing for 5 seconds above the setting menu; at 11:34 in this video:

Chris The Swede 10-23-2018 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Vicky-amg (Post 7583913)
Thanks a million V6DON and Sly north it turns out it was only a fuse. Fuse 26 in the engine bay had blown. I have now changed it and removed the little black fuse box and screen is working fine for now, I still need to give it some more starts before confirming this has actually resolved the blank screen issue so will update you guys in due course.

whilst I'm here I was wondering if my controls on the steering wheel are meant to work on apps such as music player as only the volume is functional.
Also is my centre control knob meant to work on the android section of the screen as mine only works on the original screen section.
not a big deal if it doesn't and wouldn't be surprised if it can't but I just read somewhere that it is supposed to.

WOW!! Fuses is the first thing you check.. Then you ask.. :y

Yes joystick should work. Its the AB conector settings.

Vicky-amg 10-24-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7583917)
There's a settings somewhere to use the pad/knob + the steering wheel buttons for the Android screen or for the origin unit. It was on for me. It works only in apps that support keyboard inputs (most of the already installed ones do).

As you have a v1 screen, I'm not sure exactly where it is - probably in the hidden menu that's accessed by pressing for 5 seconds above the setting menu; at 11:34 in this video: https://youtu.be/DKkYYvl3szw?t=694

My screen doesn't look like this I have to hold onto functions to get into secret menu. Which option needs to be selected for using the knob? Im sure its not the AB connector as I had them switched the other way around before and it still didn't work, all it did was have sound coming from left speaker but i am assuming the connector are correct now because the sound is working from all speakers now.

Splise 10-24-2018 03:03 PM

Am I correct in that a second Bluetooth device cannot be paired to the V2 HU? More specifically a OBDII adapter? I have tried roughly 20 BT pairing apps (including btautopair), none of them are able to pair with the 4 different OBDII adapters I own, let alone discover the adapters most of the time. I have a WiFi OBDII adapter as well, but am looking to resolve the connectivity issue via Bluetooth.

400ixl 10-24-2018 03:09 PM

A second device can be connected, unfortunately the firmware has restrictions in it as to what the BT name must be in order to be seen. I have asked Chris a number of times to see if the firmware can be updated to remove the restriction, but he hasn't even acknowledged the request in either email or on here. Even a not possible would be an answer, but just silence.

I am trying to avoid rooting the device but this is one of the things that may make me look at doing it.

Would be great if someone who has it working posts what model of adaptor it is they have used. Some have got it working.

Splise 10-24-2018 03:36 PM

I've asked as well in the past but haven't received a concrete response. I have adapters that get picked up by the app, but I can't pair them due to the pin requirement. A force pair with the MAC and pin would be the only option I believe.

pdsoliman 10-24-2018 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Vicky-amg (Post 7585118)
My screen doesn't look like this I have to hold onto functions to get into secret menu. Which option needs to be selected for using the knob? Im sure its not the AB connector as I had them switched the other way around before and it still didn't work, all it did was have sound coming from left speaker but i am assuming the connector are correct now because the sound is working from all speakers now.

Be sure you restart the screen after swapping the AB. Otherwise it won't work.

If the sound is only coming from one speaker, be sure to press the aux cable and the dongle all the way in in the glovebox.

V6DON 10-26-2018 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7582920)
I think they are smart enough to check that first. And the comand would also not come on then.

Clearly they didn’t check the fuse and you know full well that you could have simply asked but you saw it as a opportunity to try and take advantage of this Woman and swindle her for a new screen. Very low indeed. The only times there’s a reply from you is when there’s an opportunity to make a sale. This just shows the sort of person you are and I’m glad I didn’t buy my screen from you as you don’t deserve my money.



V6DON 10-26-2018 05:57 AM

Swedish swindler
 
For anyone that wants to know where I got mine from then contact a guy called Terry from Innomade car products store on Ali express the screen works perfectly and fits flush on my rhd car. He even emailed me instructions and files for amg boot up logo plus helped with any issues I had. Fast delivery came less than 2 weeks and bargain price of £440 for the version 2 with 2 gb ram and 32 gb memory even comes with a additional 8gb sd card and vinyl stickers as a gift.

So do yourself a favour and don’t be extorted by this Swedish swindler he is offering the same product at a hiked up price.


Chris The Swede 10-26-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7586667)

Clearly they didn’t check the fuse and you know full well that you could have simply asked but you saw it as a opportunity to try and take advantage of this Woman and swindle her for a new screen. Very low indeed. The only times there’s a reply from you is when there’s an opportunity to make a sale. This just shows the sort of person you are and I’m glad I didn’t buy my screen from you as you don’t deserve my money.



WOW WHAT???? That is such a childish comment. You realy dont like me and what I do on this forum do you?? HOW did it look like that??? I have not sold any to her erlier and I did not mean to start now eighter!!!! Talk about missinterpeting a text. I was only helping out and took for granted they ALWAYS check fuses first when something dies after a spark. Comon rule when doin installs like this.

Chris The Swede 10-26-2018 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7586668)
For anyone that wants to know where I got mine from then contact a guy called Terry from Innomade car products store on Ali express the screen works perfectly and fits flush on my rhd car. He even emailed me instructions and files for amg boot up logo plus helped with any issues I had. Fast delivery came less than 2 weeks and bargain price of £440 for the version 2 with 2 gb ram and 32 gb memory even comes with a additional 8gb sd card and vinyl stickers as a gift.

So do yourself a favour and don’t be extorted by this Swedish swindler he is offering the same product at a hiked up price.

WOW again! IM NOT selling ANYTHING here!!!!!!!!!! Where do you even see that anywhere here????? Swindler??? IN WHAT WAY am I a swindler???? Do you even know what I charge for this for outside EU customers? You are on very deep water here!!!

V6DON 10-26-2018 06:18 AM

What more do I want 😁

V6DON 10-26-2018 06:24 AM

Pictures of the new screen fitted 😎

Chris The Swede 10-26-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7586671)
What more do I want 😁

That made no sense to me? What you mean by that? What do you gain by being rude to me? Do you even know about the hundreds I have helped with installning and setting up this unit? And show me ONE post I did where I sell this or ask anyone to buy from me? Im only here (as usual) to coment on the unit I like so much my self and have in 3 of my cars and help as much as I can. I am actually the reason V2 even has the features it has today. And that was many requests from mebers here that I made sure was done on it. So the unit you use your self now has for exaple mph and farenheit because of me and the members here working together rather that posting coments like yours!!!!

amgggg... 10-26-2018 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by V6DON (Post 7586667)

Clearly they didn’t check the fuse and you know full well that you could have simply asked but you saw it as a opportunity to try and take advantage of this Woman and swindle her for a new screen. Very low indeed. The only times there’s a reply from you is when there’s an opportunity to make a sale. This just shows the sort of person you are and I’m glad I didn’t buy my screen from you as you don’t deserve my money.



:popcorn: WOW

V6DON 10-26-2018 04:30 PM

Pictures didn't upload

Ungarisch 10-28-2018 04:14 AM

Anyone with the new version of this unit having trouble with only mono sound coming out of the unit? For me, when connected using the AUX input, both channels are mixed together into all speaker mono, meaning both left and right channels are coming out of all speakers at the same time. It makes listening to music sound like total crap. I really don't want to to use bluetooth as it also degrades quality significantly.

I used to have the old Android 5.0 unit, and while it was dog slow the sound quality was amazing. I upgraded today to the new unit, with all new wiring harness, and I'm just baffled as to why this new unit is putting out mono sound.

Any help? Chris?

Marko2011 10-28-2018 04:34 AM

Can you test sound chanels from new android device, directly from new unit.
online test
https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_stereo.php

Chris The Swede 10-28-2018 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Ungarisch (Post 7588237)
Anyone with the new version of this unit having trouble with only mono sound coming out of the unit? For me, when connected using the AUX input, both channels are mixed together into all speaker mono, meaning both left and right channels are coming out of all speakers at the same time. It makes listening to music sound like total crap. I really don't want to to use bluetooth as it also degrades quality significantly.

I used to have the old Android 5.0 unit, and while it was dog slow the sound quality was amazing. I upgraded today to the new unit, with all new wiring harness, and I'm just baffled as to why this new unit is putting out mono sound.

Any help? Chris?

I look into it..

Chris The Swede 10-28-2018 05:50 AM

They have a VERY hard time to understand me...When I explain this to them. But have you tried the settings and reset the sound settings?

Go to apps/settings/Sound Equlizer and try there as a start..

Maallen40 10-28-2018 05:59 AM

this worked for me

Nickybenz 10-28-2018 08:06 AM

Hi
 
Do you have a link for Chris website? I have a 14 cls550 and would love to upgrade my screen , any infor or help would be greatly appreciated ! Nick

Ungarisch 10-28-2018 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7588253)
They have a VERY hard time to understand me...When I explain this to them. But have you tried the settings and reset the sound settings?

Go to apps/settings/Sound Equlizer and try there as a start..

thanks for the tip. It seems like the unit itself does separate out left and right channel, but my car is still getting all-channel mono. When I turn the equalizer to the left I get left channel out of all car speakers, right side is same.

I tried different MMI adapter, same thing. I'm guessing that the aux cable is bad. But I will now try a continuity test with my multimeter so see if the left and right aux cable wires are crossed. I really hope it's the cable and not a crappy soldering job on the unit.

I'll let you know.

EDIT: just checked with Ohm meter and yes, left and right channels are connected together, I am getting slight resistance instead of open circuit. I will now check at the plug on the back of the unit, and if I'm still getting closed circuit then I know it's the cable/plug, which I can replace.

Chris The Swede 10-28-2018 05:22 PM

Might be a faulty cable kit then..

djrabbi 10-28-2018 11:55 PM

I plan on buying this for myself soon but saw lots of issues with it. Has most of the issues been resolved?

Chris The Swede 10-29-2018 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7588885)
I plan on buying this for myself soon but saw lots of issues with it. Has most of the issues been resolved?

Depends a bit on what you want out of it. Its not a tablet. Its a screen with apps. I actually think it does even more than it says it do. Most problems are installs and settings that are wrong. But for example on my W212 I just installed it and all worked like it should inc BT sound.

Sly_North 10-29-2018 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7588885)
I plan on buying this for myself soon but saw lots of issues with it. Has most of the issues been resolved?

+1 to Chris: most issues come from installation errors. For example: make sure the GPS antenna is properly placed (horizontally, under the windshield and not hidden by the roof; fine to hide it under the central speaker grid). On older cars (NTG4), the installation will be a bit more complex, due to having to try different cable swaps (the A, B and A/B cables) and different screen settings. On NTG5 it's more plug'n play.

djrabbi 10-29-2018 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7588947)
Depends a bit on what you want out of it. Its not a tablet. Its a screen with apps. I actually think it does even more than it says it do. Most problems are installs and settings that are wrong. But for example on my W212 I just installed it and all worked like it should inc BT sound.

To be honest, I will just use it for Google Maps, Music and Radio. I won't have any in-depth apps. I feel like the factory screen is so underwhelming and looks terribly old!

Also,
Would you recommend Best Buy in doing the install? I contacted local shops and they all said $1000-$1200 to just install!

Chris The Swede 10-29-2018 11:10 AM

I recomend you do it your self. Its not hard at all..

djrabbi 10-29-2018 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7589151)
I recomend you do it your self. Its not hard at all..

I tried with my W211 and fried the fiber optic so lesson learned!

Chris The Swede 10-29-2018 12:35 PM

OK. Well that takes alot to brek that of. You just take it out and place in in new quadlock...Dont worry...

djrabbi 10-29-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7589264)
OK. Well that takes alot to brek that of. You just take it out and place in in new quadlock...Dont worry...

Do you sell them still? Don't know if some newer version came out yet

Pazevedo78 10-30-2018 12:14 PM

sound issues
 
Hi,
Just installed mine. GLC 2018, NTG 5*2
Connection with usb adaoter didint work.
Connected via BT, I have imediat sound in left front speaker and then starts in all other spekers with delay and they keep with that difference!
Which is not good... It plays left side first (almost no delay!) and then 1 or two seconds later starts the right side!
And they play a diferentes times! The whole song.
Made a video. Look a it please.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13rw...w?usp=drivesdk

Also, if playing OEM radio and start a vido or music in unit, the sounb from unit comes from left front speaker and the radio continues in the others!!

Any ideas?
What can I do?

Pazevedo78 10-31-2018 07:35 PM

All problems with sound are solved!
carlife sent me the last software update, and boom!
Everything working! 😁
About time!
There are some new things in icons area.
An Carplay icon and another one to turn the screen off
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4d35af685e.jpg

pdsoliman 11-01-2018 12:33 AM

How do we get the new software for the unit?

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Pazevedo78 (Post 7591609)
All problems with sound are solved!
carlife sent me the last software update, and boom!
Everything working! ��
About time!
There are some new things in icons area.
An Carplay icon and another one to turn the screen off
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4d35af685e.jpg

Perfect....Finally we solved it. It also keeps the clock displayed if you turned it off with the clock displayed and you dont have to swipe to clock back again every time you start the car.

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by pdsoliman (Post 7591790)
How do we get the new software for the unit?

Mail your suplier and he should be able to send it to you.

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 06:00 AM

And have in mind this has not to do with Delay on sound for the BT conection for ntg5. That is still not solved.

Pazevedo78 11-01-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7591870)
And have in mind this has not to do with Delay on sound for the BT conection for ntg5. That is still not solved.

Yeh guys. As Cris says, the BT delay is still there.
But my problems were with the sound channels. Those were completely solved.
As for the update, better contact your seller, in my case Carlife-mall.

Nickybenz 11-01-2018 07:21 AM

I wouldn't buy a dog house from that guy Chris the swede ! buyer beware he cant even answer a simple warranty question ! here is his response to me . " I dont think this is for you . Your to woirried" LMFAO the guy is a clown


CKM CAR DESIGN (chris@mbsca.com)To:you Details I dont think this is for you. Your to woirried.MVH CEO Chris H. Lund
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www.ckmcardesign.se
www.ckmcardes********28.10.2018 17:54 skrev Nicholas Cangianni:


Thanks for responding who is the company that makes this ? Are you a distributor and what is the warranty and how long ? and who do I go to for warrantee problems thank you



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On Sunday, October 28, 2018, CKM CAR DESIGN <chris@mbsca.com> wrote:

Nickybenz 11-01-2018 07:23 AM

You are a crook buddy , I have also had a terrible experience with you !

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 07:56 AM

Yeah Im a total clown and crook for not recomending this unit to customers that are to worried about it and affraid to install this themself..
And this is how Nickybenz answer my email answers:

"I live in the US you D***head "

" questions are legitimate F*** you "

Kind of terrible I would say but OK. Very mature.

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 08:19 AM

And MOST Chinese sellers just sell as much as they can and then they dont give a s**t how it installs or works for the enduser. I do care and after selling like 500 units and helping out all my customers instalning I kind of get a feeling of wich type of customers this unit is for. So its just me sugesting, Im NOT stopping you or anyone from buying it. Just a sugestion not to.

Sly_North 11-01-2018 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7591930)
And MOST Chinese sellers just sell as much as they can and then they dont give a s**t how it installs or works for the enduser. I do care and after selling like 500 units and helping out all my customers instalning I kind of get a feeling of wich type of customers this unit is for. So its just me sugesting, Im NOT stopping you or anyone from buying it. Just a sugestion not to.

Definitely not my experience. Sellers on AliExp wants their ratings to look good, and they do offer support; even after the limited one month period warranty in description.


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7591919)
Kind of terrible I would say but OK. Very mature.

About on part with the message wo which he was replying.

Chris The Swede 11-01-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7591969)
Definitely not my experience. Sellers on AliExp wants their ratings to look good, and they do offer support; even after the limited one month period warranty in description.
.

Glad to hear that.. Not what I hear from many others that ask me PLEASE to help them since the seller dont, but realy good if they do.

Heisenberg5070 11-01-2018 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
Glad to hear that.. Not what I hear from many others that ask me PLEASE to help them since the seller dont, but realy good if they do.

Hey Chris. Do you have an email or messenger we can chat on. Ide like to ask some questions about a setup. I know we dwelled a bit in the past but times have changed a bit and the setup is changing. Let me know. Thank you.

dacia 11-01-2018 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7591919)
Yeah Im a total clown and crook for not recomending this unit to customers that are to worried about it and affraid to install this themself..
And this is how Nickybenz answer my email answers:
"I live in the US you D***head "
" questions are legitimate F*** you "
Kind of terrible I would say but OK. Very mature.

So Nickybenz?
Did you write those?

Chris The Swede 11-02-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7592269)
Hey Chris. Do you have an email or messenger we can chat on. Ide like to ask some questions about a setup. I know we dwelled a bit in the past but times have changed a bit and the setup is changing. Let me know. Thank you.

Cant post it since it has my company name in it, so it gets censured. Not even in PMs.

Heisenberg5070 11-02-2018 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
Cant post it since it has my company bame in it, so it gets censured. Not even in PMs.

I'll look on your website

Red-Town 11-02-2018 11:53 AM

does this unit offer mirrorlink as well?

Pazevedo78 11-02-2018 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Red-Town (Post 7593048)
does this unit offer mirrorlink as well?

Yes.

400ixl 11-04-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7591839)
Mail your suplier and he should be able to send it to you.

Are you making updates available to all those who purchased from you? Or do we have to keep an eye on all the threads hoping we spot something and then ask you individually?

You will have all our emails so could pro-actively let us know. Would be a good way to keep your customers up to date.

Chris The Swede 11-04-2018 06:39 AM

Affraid i cant keep track of all in that way. And the updates are not that important to all. And when you install it ALL your settings and apps resets so I dont even recomend it if its not really needed for a special reason. Only thing added is the screen off button. But you sure can get it if you mail me. I also post news like this on the facebook and instagram page.

Pazevedo78 11-04-2018 08:50 AM

Is anyone getting this when unit starts?
its happening many times to me...
normal?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd29201007.jpg

Sly_North 11-04-2018 08:53 AM

It happens once every 2 weeks to me. It's probably the cache partition that got damaged, and Android is recompiling all apps from Java bytecode to native code.

Pazevedo78 11-04-2018 08:57 AM

To me it's much more frequent.
Anything I can do?

Chris The Swede 11-04-2018 10:12 AM

I also got it sometime. Dont think anything is broken though.

Sly_North 11-04-2018 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pazevedo78 (Post 7594493)
To me it's much more frequent.
Anything I can do?

Here's my guess: the cause is how abrupt the Android tablet gets powered off when the car computer is shut down; the power is just cut suddenly.
Therefore Android doesn't have the time to flush all writes that are pending, to stop all the running programs and daemons, nor to unmount the partitions etc.

My advice: when you switch off the car computer and the Android tabler (by opening your door), make sure you didn't just start a program, an action, a song etc. If you did, wait a couple of seconds then open your door.

Pazevedo78 11-04-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7594548)
Here's my guess: the cause is how abrupt the Android tablet gets powered off when the car computer is shut down; the power is just cut suddenly.
Therefore Android doesn't have the time to flush all writes that are pending, to stop all the running programs and daemons, nor to unmount the partitions etc.

My advice: when you switch off the car computer and the Android tabler (by opening your door), make sure you didn't just start a program, an action, a song etc. If you did, wait a couple of seconds then open your door.

Yes. My thoughts to. It's the way it's abruptly shuted down...
Will test that
They should implement a correct shut down of the system. As is , it's prompt to problems.

Sly_North 11-04-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Pazevedo78 (Post 7594638)
They should implement a correct shut down of the system. As is , it's prompt to problems.

It would require a battery that last about 10 seconds. Which we don't have; thus won't see in a software update.

Pazevedo78 11-05-2018 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sly_North (Post 7594548)
Here's my guess: the cause is how abrupt the Android tablet gets powered off when the car computer is shut down; the power is just cut suddenly.
Therefore Android doesn't have the time to flush all writes that are pending, to stop all the running programs and daemons, nor to unmount the partitions etc.

My advice: when you switch off the car computer and the Android tabler (by opening your door), make sure you didn't just start a program, an action, a song etc. If you did, wait a couple of seconds then open your door.

Today tried closing all apps before shutdown.
Didn't worked. Same message appeared the 2 times I started the car... 🤔

ItchyTasty 11-06-2018 08:16 PM

SO many issues with this thing. Seems it's almost not worth the hassle. I'll wait until more bugs are worked out.

Ungarisch 11-06-2018 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by ItchyTasty (Post 7596832)
SO many issues with this thing. Seems it's almost not worth the hassle. I'll wait until more bugs are worked out.

this is pretty much a bug report thread right now, and given the unit has tons of issues, even the new gen ones, BUT once you get used to "hey Siri, navigate to my next calendar appointment" or "hey Siri, play I'm afraid of Americans by David Bowie", yeah..... there is no way I'm ever going back to NTG4.0

djrabbi 11-06-2018 10:01 PM

I am in the same boat... I will get so frustrated. lol

Chris The Swede 11-07-2018 03:09 AM

And I have zero issues on my V2. Guess it depends alot on what you use it for and expect it to do. And I have no ntg5 then of course. (speaking as a enduser like you and NOT as a seller)

Pazevedo78 11-07-2018 04:59 AM

Now my only "issue" is the one above of keep doing app optimization EVERY time I start the car.
Some times it takes like 5 seconds, others can be as like 30 secondsor more.. It's not a deal breaker, but annoyes me...
Everything else is ok.

Chris The Swede 11-07-2018 08:37 AM

Have you been in the hidden menus and settings and changed? Most often that..

Heisenberg5070 11-12-2018 01:54 PM

Just curious. But has anyone been able to to come up with a solution for the audio of the device. From what I read, for the audio to work it has to be done by an aux cable.

In my car, the six cord connector is inside the arm rest, I'm wondering if on the back of the head unit if you can split the aux connection so the android unit can be plugged in from behind the unit without having to route a wire all the way to the glove box.

I saw someone post a pic on this thread a dual fakra cord for the aux.

dacia 11-12-2018 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7601355)
Just curious. But has anyone been able to to come up with a solution for the audio of the device. From what I read, for the audio to work it has to be done by an aux cable.

In my car, the six cord connector is inside the arm rest, I'm wondering if on the back of the head unit if you can split the aux connection so the android unit can be plugged in from behind the unit without having to route a wire all the way to the glove box.

I saw someone post a pic on this thread a dual fakra cord for the aux.

This was going to be my question exactly..
I just ordered the unit yesterday and was wondering what to do about the AUX.
My Media Connector and USB connectors are in the armrest too so I'd rather not take the whole center console apart to have a factory looking install.
Heisenberg, do you know which connector at the back of the COMAND is the AUX?
I have NTG4.7.
Would it be #8 USB connector?
Is this the dual fakra you are talking about?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...65fd9e1774.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...63ab6b2b5a.jpg

Heisenberg5070 11-13-2018 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by dacia
This was going to be my question exactly..
I just ordered the unit yesterday and was wondering what to do about the AUX.
My Media Connector and USB connectors are in the armrest too so I'd rather not take the whole center console apart to have a factory looking install.
Heisenberg, do you know which connector at the back of the COMAND is the AUX?
I have NTG4.7.
Would it be #8 USB connector?
Is this the dual fakra you are talking about?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...65fd9e1774.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...63ab6b2b5a.jpg

I don't have the slightest clue what's used for the aux on the back. And yes that is the dual fakra I was talking about. I'm going to try to check online for some more details.

Charlii 11-13-2018 02:01 AM

AUX
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e0c8e17b64.jpg
Your aux connector is on the black square!NTG 4.xxxxxxxx

Chris The Swede 11-13-2018 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Charlii (Post 7601954)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e0c8e17b64.jpg
Your aux connector is on the black square!NTG 4.xxxxxxxx

Exactly. That is WHY Aux works via the quadlock on cars that dont have a external aux input. The conection is already in the cable kit. In my W166 I have sound without the aux conected even though I have a external aux it worked.

Pazevedo78 11-13-2018 08:57 AM

Gps
 
Anyone having troubles with GPS signal?
i have my gps antenna under the ”mesh" in dashboard. No cables in top of it.
The signal is sometimes erratic, changing position in "bumps".
And sometimes clearly out of place in the map...
I can not get a trustly navigation as in my phone!
Any setups that I can do? Any tests?
Changing antenna position?

Heisenberg5070 11-13-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
Exactly. That is WHY Aux works via the quadlock on cars that dont have a external aux input. The conection is already in the cable kit. In my W166 I have sound without the aux conected even though I have a external aux it worked.

Have a photo of the cable kit?

Heisenberg5070 11-13-2018 03:59 PM

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So I just found this, this would require removing the one set in place that I would assume makes the connection of the ami port work. And is just a cable with a male end.

I am wondering if someone sells a splitter to split the connection so that we don't loose the ami port completely.

dacia 11-13-2018 07:38 PM

I'm a bit confused now.
Which is the AUX port, the USB port or the Media Interface connector? (I have them both in the center armrest)
I connect my iPod to the Media Interface connector and the other end of the cable connects to the headphone jack on the iPod (with a short female to male adapter cable).
Then I select AUX on the COMAND to listen to music from the iPod.
If I want to watch video from the iPod then I need to use a different cable that attaches to the same Media Interface port but the other end goes into the charging port on the iPod.
So what is considered the AUX port?

By the way I could never connect my Android phone to the COMAND to watch videos from it, it only connects via Bluetooth, the USB plug doesn't do anything.

Thanks..

Chris The Swede 11-14-2018 02:42 AM

the Media Interface connector? USB has nothing to do wit it.

Chris The Swede 11-14-2018 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7602440)
Have a photo of the cable kit?

?? Its the kit that comes with the screen.

Heisenberg5070 11-14-2018 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
?? Its the kit that comes with the screen.

Dude. What I'm trying to say, if I was to remove the aux block from the quad lock that routes to the arm rest, and replace it with a block that is just a 3.5 male jack so that it stays behind the head unit, if that would work.

Not trying to say I don't want to take the extra time and route the cable to it, I want every detail to remain hidden.

Chris The Swede 11-14-2018 05:03 PM

It sure would.

Heisenberg5070 11-15-2018 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
It sure would.

Thank you. 🙏?

HarLam 11-15-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by iamthe0ne23 (Post 7529984)
Anyone upgraded from the v1 to the v2 here? Is the existing harness reusable or am I going to have to tear the old stuff out?

Not sure if someone replied to this yet, but I was able to leave the cables in from V1 and use them with the V2. The V2 does have two wifi antennas, although I've read one may be for using it with a sim card? I didn't have to rip out any old cabling, if that helps.

Heisenberg5070 11-15-2018 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by HarLam
Not sure if someone replied to this yet, but I was able to leave the cables in from V1 and use them with the V2. The V2 does have two wifi antennas, although I've read one may be for using it with a sim card? I didn't have to rip out any old cabling, if that helps.

Didn't see anyone post about it but where exactly did you mount the antenna and gps box?

Chris The Swede 11-15-2018 01:50 PM

Cable is totaly different and with more conections. Old can not be used.

HarLam 11-15-2018 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7604575)
Didn't see anyone post about it but where exactly did you mount the antenna and gps box?

There was enough space behind the 10.25 screen to fit both wifi antennas as well as the gps. There is a small lip in this area that I mounted the gps unit to with the 3M tape. All 3 components are located right underneath the dash in that area. I've been able to use the gps and I works well, although when stopped, it does seem to get a little confused about the location. I haven't had enough time to use it to see if mounting the gps directly on the glass near the rear view mirror would make a difference, as was suggested in another comment.

FYI for anyone interested. In the hidden menu for the AUX, you have to set the Vertical and Horizontal location of the AUX location in the Comand screen and mine only worked when I set the Vertical as Horizontal location, and Horizontal as Vertical location (possible translation issue?). For example, mine is set to Horizontal 10 and Vertical 2, although in the Comand menu, the Aux location is in the second (horizontal) menu from the left and the 10th (vertical) location from the top in that menu. And I noticed that 20s lag in switching from radio (Comand) back to Aux as well.

Chris The Swede 11-16-2018 02:41 AM

GPS in windshield makes a huge difference.

AUX settings..Very intresting...Lag? How you mean? For it to switch you mean? You have 4,5 or 5s1?

HarLam 11-16-2018 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7605087)
GPS in windshield makes a huge difference.

AUX settings..Very intresting...Lag? How you mean? For it to switch you mean? You have 4,5 or 5s1?

It's the same 20s lag that Heisenberg was describing in switching from a Comand source, like the radio, back to the Android side, like watching a Youtube video. This is with the NTG 4.7

djrabbi 11-16-2018 07:43 PM

Man all this doesn't help the case of me buying this

Chris The Swede 11-17-2018 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by djrabbi (Post 7605638)
Man all this doesn't help the case of me buying this

Exactly all what? My screens work perfectly for what I am using them for. Whats your concern? I have them on Comand 4.5 and 4.7.

Heisenberg5070 11-18-2018 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by djrabbi
Man all this doesn't help the case of me buying this

I don't think anyone has a gun to your head and are forcing you to spend your money. No need to be a douche about it.

dacia 11-19-2018 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Chris The Swede (Post 7601968)
Exactly. That is WHY Aux works via the quadlock on cars that dont have a external aux input. The conection is already in the cable kit. In my W166 I have sound without the aux conected even though I have a external aux it worked.

So what you are saying is if we have NTG4.7 or higher we don't even need to connect the AUX connector supplied with the kit to get audio?
Just connect the quadlock and everything would work?
So there would be no need to route the AUX cable all the way to the center armrest, is that correct?
My car is a 2014 W212 with NTG4.7.
Thanks.


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