Ugh. Major Repair Estimat
02-20-2018, 04:46 PM
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Ugh. Major Repair Estimate
My 2010 E350 4Matic (80,000 mi) was shuddering on slow speed turns... think going into a parking space and garage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mounts
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mounts
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
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02-20-2018, 05:31 PM
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My 2010 E350 4Matic (80,000 mi) was shuddering on slow speed turns... think going into a parking space and garage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mountsi
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mountsi
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
02-20-2018, 05:49 PM
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02-20-2018, 07:20 PM
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If those vibes are not heavy, may be time to switch to a much reliable brand?
I had transmission rebuilt under 45k miles and this under 53k miles.
Just because they are covered under warranty, doesn't they are supposed to happen.
My front struts on both sides are shot, under 50k miles, my stupid Nissan Sentra 2004 with 150k miles and ford mustang with 65k were strong.
I had transmission rebuilt under 45k miles and this under 53k miles.
Just because they are covered under warranty, doesn't they are supposed to happen.
My front struts on both sides are shot, under 50k miles, my stupid Nissan Sentra 2004 with 150k miles and ford mustang with 65k were strong.
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02-21-2018, 01:50 PM
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May be this helps;
they suggested to get the fluids changed, which will definitely reduce the vibes for few days, that helps to sell it to the dealer maybe?
May be this helps;
they suggested to get the fluids changed, which will definitely reduce the vibes for few days, that helps to sell it to the dealer maybe?
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02-21-2018, 02:35 PM
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Ouch OP. Sorry to hear about that. When did the problem begin and were there any earlier signs before this problem worsened?
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
02-22-2018, 02:16 PM
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Ouch OP. Sorry to hear about that. When did the problem begin and were there any earlier signs before this problem worsened?
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
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02-22-2018, 06:31 PM
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Thanks for the details. I will have to give it a try with slow speed lock to lock turns going forward.
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02-22-2018, 06:46 PM
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Sorry to hear. Was this a dealer estimate or indy shop? Sounds like its mostly related to 4wd. Potential problems with 4matic is one of the reasons I went with 2wd. Motor mounts may be a bit early, but wouldn't be the expensive repair here.
02-23-2018, 11:51 AM
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Ouch OP. Sorry to hear about that. When did the problem begin and were there any earlier signs before this problem worsened?
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
I wonder if I have the beginnings of this problem or maybe it is not related at all. But the mention of parking spaces reminded me. When I start my car and shift into reverse to back out of a parking space, I sometimes notice a slight shudder that feels like the car might stall. The car does not stall though the revs do dip slightly. If I apply the brake to stop and then continue, I don't notice the feeling at all. This happens about 20%-25% of the time when reversing out of a space. The wheel does not have to be turned for this to happen in my case. It does not happen when going forward at all.
02-23-2018, 11:52 AM
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This was a dealer. We are working with MBUSA on this too. I plan on getting a quote from an indy shop as well.
02-23-2018, 02:19 PM
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My 2010 E350 4Matic (80,000 mi) was shuddering on slow speed turns... think going into a parking space and garage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mounts
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
Received an estimate of $6,300 for the repairs.
Reseal transfer case
Replace engine mounts
Replace oil pump
Has others in this forum seen this type of issue? It seems like a super costly repair for parts that shouldn't have issues for twice the mileage.
As the problem shows up with making sharp turns this is probably again an issue with the center differential lock. The spring loaded lock must slip at turns as the sharp turn makes sizeable speed difference between front and rear axles and for reason or another the slip in the lock is not smooth.
Years ago I read in this forum about the issues with the lock and people "wearing" in the lock by raising one end of the car up and then "driving" it with one axle wheels spinning while the others against ground do not spin. This spins the center differential lock disks and wears them or perhaps just cleans them.
Differential lock is is just a spring loaded clutch with pre-set torque so it will slip if enough torque is put thru it. Slip allows making those tight turns at parking lots, without it slipping would be very difficult to maneuver the car.
If I had the 4 Magic the first thing I would do when issues like this arise is to jack one front wheel up and lock the rear wheels with emergency brake and give it a "cleaning spin" just for a few sends and then go test drive if it helps.
Also the fluid change may help as the old fluid may have lost lubrication properties and the lock may be "sticky" just because of that.
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02-23-2018, 04:41 PM
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I agree with Arrie. Similar symptoms on my 2004 E500 4M went away after a fluid change. All 4M feel and sound funny at full lock. Most 4WD cars do. I would investigate further before dropping all that coin.
02-23-2018, 06:12 PM
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Had a chance to check earlier today and there are no vibes/shuddering when turning lock to lock at speeds of 5 mph or less. I did so many to make sure that I got a little dizzy. Thanks again for sharing the details.
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