w212 facelift grill removal
how to replace grill on w212 facelift
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Originally Posted by hdjoe84
(Post 7418113)
how to replace grill on w212 facelift
Not easy but if you know what you are doing. Its not hard. |
It's not hard at all, I followed this video. May be slightly different on other cars but just be sure to use your original center bracket.
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Must be different designs.
On my 2014 E250 the grille was hold mostly by "shark teeth" straps that give you some adjustment before final bolting. I remember that it took me a while to figure out how to pull the old straps out. Found small flat screwdriver that slid between the teeth and allow pulling them out. I noticed that W212 have poor quality plastic. Several 4years old parts simply shatter in my fingers, so be careful. Just like my 2008 model who is having some plastic clips reused from 30 years old W124, the newer cars still seem to suffer from global economy, where lot of MB parts are produced in former Eastern Block or even in China. |
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Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070
(Post 7418439)
It's not hard at all, I followed this video. May be slightly different on other cars but just be sure to use your original center bracket.
https://youtu.be/wxCAEPsRF_Q |
Ive had a look at doing this too as i wanted to black out the grill, looks like bumper off job
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Again, on my 2014 car it was couple of securing bolts on top and the rest was just snap-on brackets. No bumper touching.
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Originally Posted by kajtek1
(Post 7420924)
Again, on my 2014 car it was couple of securing bolts on top and the rest was just snap-on brackets. No bumper touching.
So to understand you correctly, there is no need to pull of the whole bumber to change the grill on an W212 facelift 2013-2016? |
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Does it differ for the cars with AMG body style? I was told that my sport's grille was riveted to the bumper.
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I see now...
Originally Posted by konigstiger
(Post 8125635)
See attachment above: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post7418659
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b3a51f5f1d.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...16baeac11d.jpg Thanks |
Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
(Post 8125659)
Does it differ for the cars with AMG body style? I was told that my sport's grille was riveted to the bumper.
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Other instructions?
Originally Posted by konigstiger
(Post 8125635)
See attachment above: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post7418659
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b3a51f5f1d.jpg Is there a complete PDF instruction book to find for mounting / desmounting other plastic details on the outside and inside of the car? Need inst. for changing a lower spoiler on the bumber, airvent inside the car drivers side(left), airvent on mid console blowing on back seat.. |
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If you’re talking about strip to lower front bumper it’s clipped on, carefully pry them off using plastic wedge. Post VIN so I have a reference for future inquiries, I will also supply MB data card.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
(Post 8126186)
If you’re talking about strip to lower front bumper it’s clipped on, carefully pry them off using plastic wedge. Post VIN so I have a reference for future inquiries, I will also supply MB data card.
Thanks a lot. So i need making few hooks, found instruction on youtube too, but the guy was only using 2 points/holes on the inside for pulling out the vent. Could be a slight difference in design on facelift models. It was this one i was reffering to, lower spoiler : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUI...pid=2155109885 Need to find a cheaper version though, or do an update for same money and get a wider one :) |
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Originally Posted by Nesib Garic
(Post 8126291)
Need to find a cheaper version though, or do an update for same money and get a wider one
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...32e77eabcf.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...61d59efdca.jpg |
Originally Posted by konigstiger
(Post 8126301)
Not sure of your end game, here is the part # and connecting points.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...32e77eabcf.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...61d59efdca.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...99d536dbf4.jpg I have a another challenge too.. A rubber seal on a left arm rest. I see its held by screws, but a rubber seal is nowhere to find, i have not tried though at a local Mercedes dealer: https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fcf331f684.jpg Is there any chance that this seal has a org part nr? |
FYI, the PDF for sport grill does not mention there are 4 tiny torx (t5?) screws that also hold the chrome mounding to the bumper cover. It isn’t just the tabs. They’re located at the corners and top center.
“Remove chrome molding on radiator grille (9) from radiator grill” just shows using a mounting wedge only. This is incorrect. I followed this and pry’d so hard that it broke one mounting, that’s when I saw the tiny screw. I removed the other 3 torx screws correctly. I’ll snap a pic for when I re-assemble everything. I took everything apart, naked bumper for repaint. |
Originally Posted by 95Sinned420
(Post 8127471)
FYI, the PDF for sport grill does not mention there are 4 tiny torx (t5?) screws that also hold the chrome mounding to the bumper cover. It isn’t just the tabs. They’re located at the corners and top center.
“Remove chrome molding on radiator grille (9) from radiator grill” just shows using a mounting wedge only. This is incorrect. I followed this and pry’d so hard that it broke one mounting, that’s when I saw the tiny screw. I removed the other 3 torx screws correctly. I’ll snap a pic for when I re-assemble everything. I took everything apart, naked bumper for repaint. I had hoped it could be done without taking of the entire bumber 😒 |
Originally Posted by Nesib Garic
(Post 8127554)
.. All i need (for now) is to take out and replace the grill (bought one on ebay with the star and chrome details on it) without removing the surrounding chrome molding which i hope is intact on the inside.
I had hoped it could be done without taking of the entire bumber 😒 Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off: |
Originally Posted by 95Sinned420
(Post 8127571)
It is possible, however, I don’t recommend it as it is so much harder prying the tabs out. The bumper isn’t that difficult to remove. It’s much easier with the bumper off and releasing the tabs from inside. The chrome has to come out though. Rivets are soft and easy to drill out.
Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off: https://youtu.be/yB5W9LJRBdo |
Rivets
Originally Posted by 95Sinned420
(Post 8127571)
It is possible, however, I don’t recommend it as it is so much harder prying the tabs out. The bumper isn’t that difficult to remove. It’s much easier with the bumper off and releasing the tabs from inside. The chrome has to come out though. Rivets are soft and easy to drill out.
Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off: https://youtu.be/yB5W9LJRBdo So in order to change the grill need to take off the chrome mounding off the bumber and only possible to do from inside because of the screws? Still not sure why chrome mounding has to come off if it is only attached to bumber and the grill itself is attached to chrome and bumber. Should it not be possible to just take of the grill from the inside out of the chrome mounding and the bumper or have i misunderstood here something? I will check each option anyway cause it seems that it can be some difference between bumbers on different facelift models.. |
Originally Posted by Nesib Garic
(Post 8133217)
Looking at this video i dont see them drilling out rivets on the bumber :
https://youtu.be/iTzjCStxAKM So in order to change the grill need to take off the chrome mounding off the bumber and only possible to do from inside because of the screws? Still not sure why chrome mounding has to come off if it is only attached to bumber and the grill itself is attached to chrome and bumber. Should it not be possible to just take of the grill from the inside out of the chrome mounding and the bumper or have i misunderstood here something? I will check each option anyway cause it seems that it can be some difference between bumbers on different facelift models.. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2fabb7f41.jpeg |
W212 bumpers
Originally Posted by konigstiger
(Post 8126301)
Not sure of your end game, here is the part # and connecting points.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...32e77eabcf.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...61d59efdca.jpg From the image you have attached, it seems the facelift W212 come in two different type of bumpers and two types of grill? |
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