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hdjoe84 03-30-2018 07:05 PM

w212 facelift grill removal
 
how to replace grill on w212 facelift

cocobeex 03-31-2018 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by hdjoe84 (Post 7418113)
how to replace grill on w212 facelift

Front bumper has to come off as i remember.
Not easy but if you know what you are doing. Its not hard.

Heisenberg5070 03-31-2018 08:19 AM

It's not hard at all, I followed this video. May be slightly different on other cars but just be sure to use your original center bracket.


kajtek1 03-31-2018 11:25 AM

Must be different designs.
On my 2014 E250 the grille was hold mostly by "shark teeth" straps that give you some adjustment before final bolting.
I remember that it took me a while to figure out how to pull the old straps out. Found small flat screwdriver that slid between the teeth and allow pulling them out.
I noticed that W212 have poor quality plastic. Several 4years old parts simply shatter in my fingers, so be careful.
Just like my 2008 model who is having some plastic clips reused from 30 years old W124, the newer cars still seem to suffer from global economy, where lot of MB parts are produced in former Eastern Block or even in China.

konigstiger 03-31-2018 02:24 PM

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See attachment.

Mr.Fly 03-31-2018 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Heisenberg5070 (Post 7418439)
It's not hard at all, I followed this video. May be slightly different on other cars but just be sure to use your original center bracket.

https://youtu.be/wxCAEPsRF_Q

That's not the W212 face-lifted version.

Alps 04-03-2018 11:32 AM

Ive had a look at doing this too as i wanted to black out the grill, looks like bumper off job

kajtek1 04-03-2018 12:59 PM

Again, on my 2014 car it was couple of securing bolts on top and the rest was just snap-on brackets. No bumper touching.

Nesib Garic 08-05-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7420924)
Again, on my 2014 car it was couple of securing bolts on top and the rest was just snap-on brackets. No bumper touching.

Hi.
So to understand you correctly, there is no need to pull of the whole bumber to change the grill on an W212 facelift 2013-2016?

konigstiger 08-05-2020 04:27 PM

See attachment above: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post7418659

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b3a51f5f1d.jpg


LILBENZ230 08-05-2020 04:54 PM

Does it differ for the cars with AMG body style? I was told that my sport's grille was riveted to the bumper.

Nesib Garic 08-05-2020 05:21 PM

I see now...
 

Originally Posted by konigstiger (Post 8125635)

​​​​​​.. is not the same as mine, mine is incooperated in bumber. Page 3 in the manual, so the bumber needs to come of as i see. Well does not look so complicated, its all on screws.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...16baeac11d.jpg
Thanks

konigstiger 08-05-2020 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by LILBENZ230 (Post 8125659)
Does it differ for the cars with AMG body style? I was told that my sport's grille was riveted to the bumper.

Yes, read attachment.

Nesib Garic 08-06-2020 03:25 AM

Other instructions?
 

Originally Posted by konigstiger (Post 8125635)

Hi again.
Is there a complete PDF instruction book to find for mounting / desmounting other plastic details on the outside and inside of the car?
Need inst. for changing a lower spoiler on the bumber, airvent inside the car drivers side(left), airvent on mid console blowing on back seat..

konigstiger 08-06-2020 11:52 AM

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If you’re talking about strip to lower front bumper it’s clipped on, carefully pry them off using plastic wedge. Post VIN so I have a reference for future inquiries, I will also supply MB data card.


Nesib Garic 08-06-2020 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by konigstiger (Post 8126186)
If you’re talking about strip to lower front bumper it’s clipped on, carefully pry them off using plastic wedge. Post VIN so I have a reference for future inquiries, I will also supply MB data card.

VIN: WDD2122011B331718

Thanks a lot.
So i need making few hooks, found instruction on youtube too, but the guy was only using 2 points/holes on the inside for pulling out the vent. Could be a slight difference in design on facelift models.

It was this one i was reffering to, lower spoiler :
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUI...pid=2155109885

​​​​Need to find a cheaper version though, or do an update for same money and get a wider one :)

konigstiger 08-06-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nesib Garic (Post 8126291)
​​​​Need to find a cheaper version though, or do an update for same money and get a wider one

Not sure of your end game, here is the part # and connecting points.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...32e77eabcf.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...61d59efdca.jpg



Nesib Garic 08-06-2020 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by konigstiger (Post 8126301)

Was probobly reffering to part 208+209 as a more sporty trim if 207 is not needed in that case, or if i find cheaper 207 that will do it for me :)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...99d536dbf4.jpg

I have a another challenge too.. A rubber seal on a left arm rest. I see its held by screws, but a rubber seal is nowhere to find, i have not tried though at a local Mercedes dealer:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fcf331f684.jpg
Is there any chance that this seal has a org part nr?

95Sinned420 08-07-2020 10:22 PM

FYI, the PDF for sport grill does not mention there are 4 tiny torx (t5?) screws that also hold the chrome mounding to the bumper cover. It isn’t just the tabs. They’re located at the corners and top center.

“Remove chrome molding on radiator grille (9) from radiator grill” just shows using a mounting wedge only. This is incorrect. I followed this and pry’d so hard that it broke one mounting, that’s when I saw the tiny screw. I removed the other 3 torx screws correctly. I’ll snap a pic for when I re-assemble everything.

I took everything apart, naked bumper for repaint.

Nesib Garic 08-08-2020 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by 95Sinned420 (Post 8127471)
FYI, the PDF for sport grill does not mention there are 4 tiny torx (t5?) screws that also hold the chrome mounding to the bumper cover. It isn’t just the tabs. They’re located at the corners and top center.

“Remove chrome molding on radiator grille (9) from radiator grill” just shows using a mounting wedge only. This is incorrect. I followed this and pry’d so hard that it broke one mounting, that’s when I saw the tiny screw. I removed the other 3 torx screws correctly. I’ll snap a pic for when I re-assemble everything.

I took everything apart, naked bumper for repaint.

​​​​​​.. All i need (for now) is to take out and replace the grill (bought one on ebay with the star and chrome details on it) without removing the surrounding chrome molding which i hope is intact on the inside.
I had hoped it could be done without taking of the entire bumber 😒

95Sinned420 08-08-2020 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Nesib Garic (Post 8127554)
​​​​​​.. All i need (for now) is to take out and replace the grill (bought one on ebay with the star and chrome details on it) without removing the surrounding chrome molding which i hope is intact on the inside.
I had hoped it could be done without taking of the entire bumber 😒

It is possible, however, I don’t recommend it as it is so much harder prying the tabs out. The bumper isn’t that difficult to remove. It’s much easier with the bumper off and releasing the tabs from inside. The chrome has to come out though. Rivets are soft and easy to drill out.

Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off:


LILBENZ230 08-08-2020 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by 95Sinned420 (Post 8127571)
It is possible, however, I don’t recommend it as it is so much harder prying the tabs out. The bumper isn’t that difficult to remove. It’s much easier with the bumper off and releasing the tabs from inside. The chrome has to come out though. Rivets are soft and easy to drill out.

Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off:

https://youtu.be/yB5W9LJRBdo

This is a good video, but I wish someone would make one swapping the sport grille to the luxury one. I settled for the illuminated star, but I'd love the luxury grille and hood ornament. It just does not seem like it would be easy.

Nesib Garic 08-15-2020 10:46 AM

Rivets
 

Originally Posted by 95Sinned420 (Post 8127571)
It is possible, however, I don’t recommend it as it is so much harder prying the tabs out. The bumper isn’t that difficult to remove. It’s much easier with the bumper off and releasing the tabs from inside. The chrome has to come out though. Rivets are soft and easy to drill out.

Here is a video of someone removing it without taking the bumper off:

https://youtu.be/yB5W9LJRBdo

Looking at this video i dont see them drilling out rivets on the bumber :


So in order to change the grill need to take off the chrome mounding off the bumber and only possible to do from inside because of the screws?

Still not sure why chrome mounding has to come off if it is only attached to bumber and the grill itself is attached to chrome and bumber. Should it not be possible to just take of the grill from the inside out of the chrome mounding and the bumper or have i misunderstood here something?
I will check each option anyway cause it seems that it can be some difference between bumbers on different facelift models..

95Sinned420 08-15-2020 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Nesib Garic (Post 8133217)
Looking at this video i dont see them drilling out rivets on the bumber :
https://youtu.be/iTzjCStxAKM


So in order to change the grill need to take off the chrome mounding off the bumber and only possible to do from inside because of the screws?

Still not sure why chrome mounding has to come off if it is only attached to bumber and the grill itself is attached to chrome and bumber. Should it not be possible to just take of the grill from the inside out of the chrome mounding and the bumper or have i misunderstood here something?
I will check each option anyway cause it seems that it can be some difference between bumbers on different facelift models..

Removal of bumper you don’t need to drill out rivets. Removal of grill, you do. I attached the picture with the locations.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2fabb7f41.jpeg


meljayger 06-29-2021 11:14 PM

W212 bumpers
 

Originally Posted by konigstiger (Post 8126301)

Hi @konigstiger I hope you can help me ;)
From the image you have attached, it seems the facelift W212 come in two different type of bumpers and two types of grill?


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