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bachree 04-09-2018 11:20 AM

Dry rot or suspension issue?
 
There are small chunks missing from all of the tires. Vehicle drives very smooth, no indication of any problem. Tires have 35000 miles on them and they are rated for 70000 miles. Thread depth 7/32 and car is 2010 e350 stock everythinghttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...85358b105.jpeg

bbirdwell 04-09-2018 11:40 AM

How do the inside edges look? On my W211, the tires began "chunking" and "peeling" on both inside and outside. Turned out to be combination of bad bushings/ball joints.

KEY08 04-09-2018 12:24 PM

So, are you saying the tires are original to the car? 2010? If they are I would toss them in the trash. I would not ride on tires that are 8+ years old. There is a DOT date code on the side of each tire.

bachree 04-09-2018 01:16 PM

Vehicle 2010
Tires 2015 September

kajtek1 04-09-2018 01:53 PM

Looks like tire spin over sharp object.
I would check it all the way around, but if that is all - don't worry about it.

KEY08 04-09-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by bachree (Post 7425907)
Vehicle 2010
Tires 2015 September

Thank you for clearing that up. I would speak with someone at Continental Tire and send them photos. It may have been a bad batch of rubber at the outside of the moulds if they are all affected and produced together.

bachree 04-09-2018 06:26 PM

Here is a picture of the inner side of tread. Starting to peel but it is less effectedhttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...548943aa4.jpeg.
I'll get the oil changed at the dealer in couple weeks. I'll ask them to take a close look to the suspension. Then, call the tire manufacturer if there is no wear in suspension.

KEY08 04-09-2018 06:37 PM

I don’t know if you purchased the tires from the dealer, but if you did I would also get them involved. Even if not, it doesn’t hurt to ask their opinion as they see thousands of wear patterns and premature damage on Continentals.

thefisch 04-09-2018 06:40 PM

I would stop by a couple of reputable tire shops in your area for their opinion on tire life left. I have seen that before on my cars at about the 4 year mark and it normally results in increased road noise. Hasn't been a safety issue for me so far.

kajtek1 04-09-2018 07:46 PM

The last picture shows badly aged tire. What is the number behind DOT on sidewall?

bachree 04-09-2018 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7426311)
The last picture shows badly aged tire. What is the number behind DOT on sidewall?

1615
Tread depth 7/32

ItalianJoe1 04-09-2018 09:48 PM

Happens on the Continental tires. They are just cracking from age. Look at your initial pics, the sidewall is cracking too. There's probably a small alignment issue and it combines with the tire compound to pull them apart.

bbirdwell 04-09-2018 11:27 PM

Ball joints and bushings. Control arms and thrust arms. Lower support ball joint. Upper ball joint. End.

FWIW, I've run multiple sets of Continental tires. The only time this occurred was with bad ball joints and bushings. This doesn't "just happen". It occurs due to excessive wear in the suspension components. Your tires are only three years old. At five years in the sun, I'd be concerned. This is not the case. It's the suspension. 9000 miles on my first set of Continentals with bad ball joints/ bushings; 36,000 miles on my second set of Continentals with rebuilt suspension.

Your circus, your monkeys. Let us know what you do and what the results are. Best wishes to you!

kajtek1 04-10-2018 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by bachree (Post 7426386)


1615
Tread depth 7/32


16 week of 2015, makes the tire 3 years old.
No excuse for age cracks. Contact the warranty.
However the 1st picture shows mechanical abuse, so this might not be easy case.

bachree 04-10-2018 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by kajtek1 (Post 7426800)
16 week of 2015, makes the tire 3 years old.
No excuse for age cracks. Contact the warranty.
However the 1st picture shows mechanical abuse, so this might not be easy case.

Do you mean road conditions, driving style or suspension issues by mechanical abuse?

kajtek1 04-10-2018 11:44 PM

I am getting cuts like on picture 1 when I drive my pickup on gravel road and spin the wheels pulling a trailer. On that picture even sidewalls have cuts.

aquinob 04-11-2018 08:03 AM

A few questions. How many miles on the car and has any front end or suspension work been done on it. Have you checked all the tires for any other type of wear like feathering? Is the damage all around each tire or just in spots? Do you drive on gravel or unpaved roads at all? What type of conti are these, hard to see in the picture. I'm running contiprocontacts on mine, have about the same mileage and were put on about 3 years ago and are wearing just fine.

thenew3 04-11-2018 06:45 PM

If these are the contiprocontacts then I had the same issue on my 2013 with only 28k mile on them. It was much worse the your first picture though, and only happened on the outside edge of both front tires. Rear tires were ok. All 4 were down to about 4/32" after 28k miles so I had them replaced. Tire shop, Dealer, and independent MB shop all said nothing wrong with the vehicle. They checked suspension, alignment etc, all was ok.

Changed over to Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ and so far after 3k miles no sign of similar issues.

Previous car (non-mb) with the same model Continental tires also had same issues. Replaced them with Kumho tires and after 30k miles, did not have the chunking the continentals had.

belarus27 04-11-2018 10:30 PM

Never liked those stock continentals anyways lol

bachree 04-12-2018 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by aquinob (Post 7427571)
A few questions. How many miles on the car and has any front end or suspension work been done on it. Have you checked all the tires for any other type of wear like feathering? Is the damage all around each tire or just in spots? Do you drive on gravel or unpaved roads at all? What type of conti are these, hard to see in the picture. I'm running contiprocontacts on mine, have about the same mileage and were put on about 3 years ago and are wearing just fine.

66000 miles on the car
no suspension work has been done.
Damage is on spots
Not driving on gravel or unpaved road
Continental PURECONTACT WITH ECOPLUS TECHNOLOGY - SIZE: 245/45R17

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ECXL&tab=Sizes

KEY08 04-12-2018 02:23 PM

The ContiProContact was the OEM tire, not this low end Pure Contact tire. The Pure Contact is $350/set cheaper. I have never seen anything like this on the ContiPro and I have driven on probably 8-10 sets over 3 E class cars in the last 15 years.

bachree 04-12-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by KEY08 (Post 7428788)
The ContiProContact was the OEM tire, not this low end Pure Contact tire. The Pure Contact is $350/set cheaper. I have never seen anything like this on the ContiPro and I have driven on probably 8-10 sets over 3 E class cars in the last 15 years.


Why do you think the pure contact is inferior? It has superior ratings than pure contact based on driver reviews. Price difference is $120/4 tire, not $350.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiProC ontact&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=445HR7CPCXLV3&ta b=Sizes

My factory procontact was bald at 27000 miles with harsher and louder ride than the pure contact...

KEY08 04-12-2018 04:28 PM

My bad. I didn’t see you were on a 17” tire and was comparing it to my 18”. I hope you get this figured out. The photos just make the tire look like it has been sitting in the sun 24/7 and 125 degree heat. It looks completely shot.

bachree 04-12-2018 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by KEY08 (Post 7428914)
My bad. I didn’t see you were on a 17” tire and was comparing it to my 18”. I hope you get this figured out. The photos just make the tire look like it has been sitting in the sun 24/7 and 125 degree heat. It looks completely shot.

no worries, thanks for the input. I'll get the dealer check everything out and provide me a paper showing the suspension is in good shape (it was in perfect condition 1 year ago) and then i will call continental.

KEY08 04-12-2018 08:13 PM

I’m really curious as to how this turns out for you and what is going on. Please come back and let us know how you resolved it. Good luck!


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