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Old 06-04-2018, 01:54 PM
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Hello guys, I'm at 5/32 on the treads for my stock 17 setups. I learned Audi and VW wheels fit our vehicles so, here is my question.
Will 245/40/R18 Audi A5 wheels (non-staggered) fit my 2013 E350 4Matic without any problems? Do I need spacers?

Also, will the Mercedes wheel center hub inserts works on Audi's center caps too?

Specifically this model:
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...&iact=c&ictx=1
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1. Modern Audi's CB is 66.5mm, while MB's is 66.56mm. Yes even half of mm could be a problem (fitting MB wheel on Audi hub is not a problem).

2. MB center caps are 75mm (3"), Audi's are much smaller (I believe 68mm or so), so no center caps will not fit, but one can buy aftermarket MB 68mm stickers.
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also, what is this cap called at 4:00 mins into the video. The above wheels I mentioned comes with Audi star fish style center hub cap, which resembles the ones in the video. Hopefully the mercedes hub cover fits on these audi wheels too. I know I'm asking too much
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1. Modern Audi's CB is 66.5mm, while MB's is 66.56mm. Yes even half of mm could be a problem (fitting MB wheel on Audi hub is not a problem).
will spacers work? If so, please point me in right direction. BTW, These wheels are from 2010 A5 convertible Quattro.

2. MB center caps are 75mm (3"), Audi's are much smaller (I believe 68mm or so), so no center caps will not fit, but one can buy aftermarket MB 68mm stickers.
currently it is an open setup anyway, so, no issues on open lug nuts display. Just checking.

Thanks for quick response.

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you'll need spacers to run the Audi wheels. The hub projects much more on the MB and it won't allow the cap to snap in. 10mm works fine.

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I have Audi wheels and have no issue with them fitting. I am not running spacers and currently haven’t found mb center caps.

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I have Audi wheels and have no issue with them fitting. I am not running spacers and currently haven’t found mb center caps.
actually I got the idea from looking at your wagon only.

So, no spacers. Will get back to you soon.
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If i remember correctly those called ADAPTERS not Spacers.
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If i remember correctly those called ADAPTERS not Spacers.
adapters would only be used if you have different bolt patterns.

You have 3 things to look at. Center bore, bolt pattern, offset.

Audi switched to 66 cb sometime around 09 or so. Anything before that you want to double check. Not sure if VW has switched yet. I think they might still be 57.1.

Audi VW and Merc all are 5x112 bolt pattern. Offsets are similar usually mid 40s-50. I might run a 10mm spacer in rear to make the wheel flush to fender. Haven’t really gotten the motivation to try it yet. Been busy with house stuff.

Older Mercedes used 12mm bolts to bolt down the wheels. So that can be a problem when talking about early 211 or 210s. All the newer stuff shouldn’t be a issue.
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vdubbG, please share a link on what those 10mm spacers and where can I buy them.

I saw a pair for 100$ on eBay, but someone recently posted a pic sharing their broken spacers. So, I'm kind of worried.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-10mm-2-12...pe!28262!US!-1
or any other? please help. thanks in advance.

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10 mm spacers are the trickiest as you loose hub flange, while 10 mm is not giving enough material to make new one.
Meaning your wheels will be centered on bolts and that might be not good enough.
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Originally Posted by raja777m View Post
vdubbG, please share a link on what those 10mm spacers and where can I buy them.

I saw a pair for 100$ on eBay, but someone recently posted a pic sharing their broken spacers. So, I'm kind of worried.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-10mm-2-12...pe!28262!US!-1
or any other? please help. thanks in advance.
I am currently running a set of 42 draft design spacers. Given to me from a friend that had a S4. I have used H&R and ECS brand on my past VWs. Those are all 57.1cb so I cant use them on this car obviously. Any of these I would feel comfortable with. I wouldn’t do eBay, although there are probably lots of people using them.

i would definitely not buy a spacer without a hub centric ring built in it. The ones you gave me a link to show no ring on the 10mm. Not only is that unsafe, it will cause a lot of vibration. You could do it for 3-5mm, not for 10 though.

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I am currently running a set of 42 draft design spacers. Given to me from a friend that had a S4. I have used H&R and ECS brand on my past VWs. Those are all 57.1cb so I cant use them on this car obviously. Any of these I would feel comfortable with. I wouldn’t do eBay, although there are probably lots of people using them.

i would definitely not buy a spacer without a hub centric ring built in it. The ones you gave me a link to show no ring on the 10mm. Not only is that unsafe, it will cause a lot of vibration. You could do it for 3-5mm, not for 10 though.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-42-draft...oaAlKQEALw_wcB

I found these from ECS and I believe we need it for all 4 wheels, not just rear?
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This is the first time I see such spacer design on ECS site. There is no cylindrical flange, but taper only. That gives bigger margin for error when you have some dirt. Would be interesting to read some reviews, but ECS is not posting reviews on their site, even they have the option on the site.
I made review for the new scanner and they never posted it and never contact me about it.
Correction. I recheck the scanner and seems several weeks after I send the review, it is on the site.
BTW seems after my review ECS drop the scanner price by 25%.

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one last question, my understanding is VDUBBG is running stock setup for Audi wheels on his 4Matic wagon. Only thing he needs spacers is for looks only. Is that correct or will it cause any handling issues?
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Spacers for looks are still spacers and will have the same concerns.
I like to play with wheels and was tempted with cheap AMG wheels from S-class, but at final point when I calculated pricing of quality spacers + custom bolts, within the same price range I was able to find wheels who would fit directly.
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Spacers for looks are still spacers and will have the same concerns.
I like to play with wheels and was tempted with cheap AMG wheels from S-class, but at final point when I calculated pricing of quality spacers + custom bolts, within the same price range I was able to find wheels who would fit directly.
yeah, at the end of the day, I feel the same. The wheels and new tires (2011) are for 250$. Sounds like a no brainer.
On the other hand, they are 7 years old tires that are shelved. So, I believe, I'll be spending hefty money for new tires in few days anyway.
I think I'll wait for some more time for AMG 18s..!
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Originally Posted by raja777m View Post
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-42-draft...oaAlKQEALw_wcB

I found these from ECS and I believe we need it for all 4 wheels, not just rear?
those are the wrong cb size. You need 66 not 57. Also mine does not have the cylinder type flange. Mine looks more like these.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...411ecs02a10kt/

my friend with the s4 also bought them from 42dd directly. They made them for his car. Took a couple of days to make.

Mine are just for looks, but depends on spec of wheels and tires people use them to get more room for suspension or brakes clearance.
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