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Old 03-03-2016, 03:16 PM
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What a joke putting such an underpowered engine in the e-class.


Might as well buy a c-class, same engine. 20k less.


Really disappointed at this change.


Have had 9 new mbs' in the past.


Might have to keep my 2014 e350 sport 4-matic
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There will be other engines of course. They're just following Audi and BMW and offering the E300 to compete with the A6 2.0t and the 528i. I think at the NYC show we will get more info on the E43 with a possible 400hp. If not expect it to have 362hp like the C43 models.

In 2017 for the 2018 model year is when the new I6 engines will come.

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The 401hp Mercedes-AMG E43 with 401hp is out, official and gorgeous:














http://www.autobild.de/artikel/merce...g-8726363.html


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http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/new...ngs-396hp.html


396hp in U.S. trim from the same 3.0L V6 found in all the 450/43/400 cars.


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Very nice car - still less HP than the 2012-2014 E550!
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Is there really an inline 6 in the works? Or was it all just unfounded rumour?
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Very nice car - still less HP than the 2012-2014 E550!
The E550 w twin turbo V8 is the hidden gem of non AMG MB
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The E550 w twin turbo V8 is the hidden gem of non AMG MB
I'm pretty sure there won't be a non AMG V8. The E43 will be the one that sits immediately below the bonkers E63 with the 4.0 V8. The 4.7 V8 in the old E550 is being retired.
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Originally Posted by autopal
Is there really an inline 6 in the works? Or was it all just unfounded rumour?
No this is true. MB execs have spoken on it at various events with the press on the side lines.

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I'm pretty sure there won't be a non AMG V8. The E43 will be the one that sits immediately below the bonkers E63 with the 4.0 V8. The 4.7 V8 in the old E550 is being retired.
It isn't being retired, it is retired in the E-Class. It's been gone since the 2015 model year in the E.

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You guys keep talking about less hp. The old E550 had 402hp, this has 396hp, not that much of a difference, not enough to speak of really. This E43 will no doubt be lighter and has better gearing with the 9G. It will no doubt handle much better, and it has airmatic to smooth out the ride when you don't want a sportier/charging drive. The only thing that is less is the torque, but again the gearing might make up for that as will less weight. I think you all need to drive this E43 before saying it isn't a proper replacement for the E550.

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No this is true. MB execs have spoken on it at various events with the press on the side lines.

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So when will they introduce this I6? We've been hearing these rumours for over a year now, and all these new cars are debuting with the V6. I would have thought that the brand new E would have been the perfect car to debut the I6, if there really is one!
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So when will they introduce this I6? We've been hearing these rumours for over a year now, and all these new cars are debuting with the V6. I would have thought that the brand new E would have been the perfect car to debut the I6, if there really is one!
They rumors say about a year from now with the S-Class facelift. One exec at Detroit said that it is simply too early to talk about it. Usually when rumors like these persist for years, there is some truth to it. It's unfortunate IMO, but the Audi Allroad like version of the E_Class wagon will probably happen too.

I agree this car would have been a perfect time to introduce the I6, but MB doesn't introduce new cars and engines together that often. It cuts down on problems and ensures better reliability. Think about it, after a year on the market the E-Class will be in the press again due to the new engines. MB knows what they're doing.

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Originally Posted by Germancar1
You guys keep talking about less hp. The old E550 had 402hp, this has 396hp, not that much of a difference, not enough to speak of really. This E43 will no doubt be lighter and has better gearing with the 9G. It will no doubt handle much better, and it has airmatic to smooth out the ride when you don't want a sportier/charging drive. The only thing that is less is the torque, but again the gearing might make up for that as will less weight. I think you all need to drive this E43 before saying it isn't a proper replacement for the E550.

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Fully agree. And as per chart above, it will be a lot quicker too. I'm certainly switching from my '14 E550 to '17 E43 when it comes out about a year from now. Thanks, Gemancar1, for posting info.
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
You guys keep talking about less hp. The old E550 had 402hp, this has 396hp, not that much of a difference, not enough to speak of really. This E43 will no doubt be lighter and has better gearing with the 9G. It will no doubt handle much better, and it has airmatic to smooth out the ride when you don't want a sportier/charging drive. The only thing that is less is the torque, but again the gearing might make up for that as will less weight. I think you all need to drive this E43 before saying it isn't a proper replacement for the E550.

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Being the owner of E550, I can tell you that the 4.7L TT is way more powerful than the claim of factory. Anyway I think I can live with V6 TT with 400 hp and I cant wait to test it out.
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Being the owner of E550, I can tell you that the 4.7L TT is way more powerful than the claim of factory. Anyway I think I can live with V6 TT with 400 hp and I cant wait to test it out.
I dunno about "way" more powerful, or what that means exactly but yes the Germans underrate their engines all the time.

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The E400 W213 0-62 mph acceleration time
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Articles on the I6:

http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...-ED-ITM-101589


http://www.automobilemag.com/news/me...ne-six-engine/


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From that first article ...

Originally Posted by carsales.com.au
Weber confirmed we would see a diesel-powered inline six-cylinder engine from Benz first ... It's not clear which vehicle will debut the new inline-six diesel but a facelifted S-Class is shaping up as the likely recipient in around 18 months.
Bummer. That sounds like it won't be an engine choice in the new E-class for at least 2 years
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Yeah it looks like maybe the 2018 model year, but as you say it may end up being a full 2 model years and that would put the E at the 2019 model year.

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Originally Posted by Germancar1


http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/new...ngs-396hp.html


396hp in U.S. trim from the same 3.0L V6 found in all the 450/43/400 cars.


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Looking forward for the coupe version.
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No match for the sound of the V8.

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