Navigation Disappointment
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WOW...
now i almost don't wanna give up my w212 next week.
it has tomtom maps which I find very good.
But my E coupe which i had before this one (a 2011 blt) had very very sh*tty gps.
(no idea what the (map) brand was.)
Itt was so sh*t that i constanly had to drive with a portable tomtom.
it seems that with my next w213 those days will be back again..???
now i almost don't wanna give up my w212 next week.
it has tomtom maps which I find very good.
But my E coupe which i had before this one (a 2011 blt) had very very sh*tty gps.
(no idea what the (map) brand was.)
Itt was so sh*t that i constanly had to drive with a portable tomtom.
it seems that with my next w213 those days will be back again..???
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Help please someone.where is the acc cable I have bought a aftermarket radio and no success in powering it on the seller told me test acc cable and I have no clue where it's at but I would assume mercedes doesn't have acc for radio since you can power the radio without having to turn the key?the radio is receiving power tho as u can see in the picture below but still won't power on
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Funny you should mention this. I own a 2014 Land Cruiser 200, and the nav is positively horrendous. Traffic udates appear when you've been in the jam for half an hour, it sends you off the ooframp only to have you enter the motorway on the opposite ramp, the voice has a really thick Dutch accent, and using voice to enter an address is neigh impossible. I find it dramatically bad.
I used the GLS nav when I tested the car, and found the nav to be a real upgrade.
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what I find strange is that there seems to be no way to get a list of "incidents" on your route.
(I've gone through all menus but can not find it...)
The only way to get this information is to slide the pointer on the map to the symbol that shows an incident
and then select it to get the information. (This in itself is already quite difficult to do when you are driving,
as you need to be exactly on the symbol..)
you have to repeat this for every single incident on route.
(I've gone through all menus but can not find it...)
The only way to get this information is to slide the pointer on the map to the symbol that shows an incident
and then select it to get the information. (This in itself is already quite difficult to do when you are driving,
as you need to be exactly on the symbol..)
you have to repeat this for every single incident on route.
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I know it isn’t any compensation, but two of my colleagues have Jaguar cars and it’s a standing joke with them that they never end up in the right place.
The UK maps seem okay in my e Class Coupe.
The UK maps seem okay in my e Class Coupe.
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I agree. I've come from 2 x Audi A5 cabrios ( 2012 and 2014) with Audi MMI Plus DVD based Sat Nav ( the better one).
It gave you proper notice coming up to exits, not at the last minute like with Comand Online, and when entering the address it gave you a complete overview of the possible routes so you actually had a clear idea of the routes you were heading on.
The comand online just shows you a zoomed in immediate direction and you cannot easily see what the general route is.
It's also much more fiddly to scroll across the map. Apart from the size of the screen and the live traffic the nav functionality of Comand Online is poor .
It gave you proper notice coming up to exits, not at the last minute like with Comand Online, and when entering the address it gave you a complete overview of the possible routes so you actually had a clear idea of the routes you were heading on.
The comand online just shows you a zoomed in immediate direction and you cannot easily see what the general route is.
It's also much more fiddly to scroll across the map. Apart from the size of the screen and the live traffic the nav functionality of Comand Online is poor .
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I have used the display behind the steering wheel, set at navigation, it gives the next turn and distance. I am also disappointed in MB's navigation program's overall functionality. I expected more from German engineering.
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Has the guidance improved with navigation updates? Or is it about the same.
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I never use Navigation in my 2018 E300.
Google Maps on CarPlay, even if it’s not perfect, is way better, almost always up to date, and displays traffic, suggesting the fastest way to my destination.
Google Maps on CarPlay, even if it’s not perfect, is way better, almost always up to date, and displays traffic, suggesting the fastest way to my destination.
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They fixed that. From 2019 you can download map updates to a USB stick and install them yourself for free. I've updated my maps five times since January 2019, most recently last week. Nav is not too bad any more.
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I just use WAZE: I am tired of fighting with the MB navigation: I speak English: WAZE understands me. MB navigation does not.
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+1...They are even automatically updated for the home region via OTA. COMAND 5.5 as of 2019 and MBUX are not your MB nav systems of old anymore. Things change.
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I was recently on vacation and rented an Audi that has the navigation system that takes up the entire space behind the wheel. I drove all over Switzerland and Germany for 3 weeks and never once felt even remotely lost. The Audi system works remarkably well and has just the right amount of vocalization.
On my Mercedes, I agree with all the comments above, amazingly poor. How someone could design a system where you can't see the route before starting is proof that the Germans should stick to brewing beer.
On my Mercedes, I agree with all the comments above, amazingly poor. How someone could design a system where you can't see the route before starting is proof that the Germans should stick to brewing beer.
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I also find the lane guidance much better in COMAND. I'm now running the 2020 maps that just came out the other day. With 2019+ models they can be downloaded and installed by the owner, so no need for a trip to the dealership to update the maps anymore, and I drove on a stretch of highway with new express lanes. It now advises when to enter/exit the express lanes. Pretty cool. Haven't seen that on Audis or even prior to updating my maps. Maybe the express lanes just weren't in the map yet, because of how new they are, and now they are in the 2020 maps.
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Go to Navigation -> Route and Position. Select Alternative Routes. It'll show you all the possible routes to your destination based on the choices you made in your route settings. The current route is highlighted with a dark blue line and you can select any of the alternate routes if you prefer any of them. I've owned Audis for over 10 years, and they do have a nice option that automatically brings up the alternate routes automatically before starting the route guidance. I had it turned on in my cars, but rarely ever selected an alternate route. I'm not gonna debate the two systems, but I have no desire to go back to an Audi. Much of the backend is starting to converge. MB, Audi and BMW are almost fully using the HERE platform that they acquired together from Nokia a while back. There are similar threads like this one on Audi forums with folks complaining. It's the same thing everywhere. Multiple generations of these systems are mixed together in the responses, and some folks just seem to not be able to get a hang of these systems and fully take advantage of all the features it has. I definitely prefer the 2019+ COMAND 5.5 in my car over the Audi system. The full screen navigation in the virtual cockpit is nice eye candy, but MBUX now has the same feature and the digital instrument cluster in the W213 etc. can at least display a small detailed map in the instrument cluster along with turn-by-turn instructions, while one can keep the center display zoomed out far enough to see the whole route as an overview or at least part of it. I generally keep the center display at the 2 mile zoom level to get the satellite images and see far enough ahead of where I'm going and what upcoming traffic looks like, while I have the detailed zoomed in map on the right in the instrument cluster to see the immediate road layout and upcoming maneuvers, along with the turn-by-turn instructions on the left. I use the AMG Supersport layout in the instrument cluster which allows for two customizable areas left and right of the central rev counter. Audi S and RS models have a similar layout called Sport, which is what I used and also had the map on one side and the turn-by-turn instructions on the other side. The full screen is cool to impress friends, but is not as useful IMO, because other information is minimized.
I also find the lane guidance much better in COMAND. I'm now running the 2020 maps that just came out the other day. With 2019+ models they can be downloaded and installed by the owner, so no need for a trip to the dealership to update the maps anymore, and I drove on a stretch of highway with new express lanes. It now advises when to enter/exit the express lanes. Pretty cool. Haven't seen that on Audis or even prior to updating my maps. Maybe the express lanes just weren't in the map yet, because of how new they are, and now they are in the 2020 maps.
I also find the lane guidance much better in COMAND. I'm now running the 2020 maps that just came out the other day. With 2019+ models they can be downloaded and installed by the owner, so no need for a trip to the dealership to update the maps anymore, and I drove on a stretch of highway with new express lanes. It now advises when to enter/exit the express lanes. Pretty cool. Haven't seen that on Audis or even prior to updating my maps. Maybe the express lanes just weren't in the map yet, because of how new they are, and now they are in the 2020 maps.
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I've also noticed the newest HERE maps have a lot more local POI information. I noticed parking areas at a local community college are now displayed with P icons, for instance. I still use Google maps on Android Auto most of the time, but COMAND is quite adequate and is great to have on road trips when you lose cell coverage.
There's even another level to the parking POIs. For parking structures it actually displays the fill level on the map. There are three lights next to the P symbol that are either red or green to show how much of the parking structure is occupied. Of course this only works for parking structures that publish this information, but it's very helpful in cities for example. Similarly, although, I don't care much it shows the price of fuel next to the gas station symbols and it actually is smart enough to show the price for Premium and not the price for Regular.
There are so many things I have discovered over time that I'm using Google Maps/Apple Car Play less and less. I used Google Maps exclusively at the beginning in Europe, because the Mercedes Me services were not active during my ED trip. It was great to have that option. I also used Waze a bit more on some longer trips to see where the cops are, but at least in my area it turns out Waze mostly shows where the cops used to be, and since I got a new radar detector that actually works well I haven't used Waze again. Once my car got to the USA, I felt the COMAND navigation wasn't working so well. Specifically the map seemed outdated, but then I got two OTA updates in a row and discovered that what the VPC installed on my car was two versions behind. As mentioned above, the map updates also include voice recognition updates which noticeably improved the system. It wasn't working very well at first. The online services also improved over time, even though they are clearly still working on them, but initially the online searches seemed to be a crap shoot and slow. But now they've gotten very good and find all kinds of places by just using the "Navigate to..." voice command, and they are also faster now. If all else fails one can always look for a place in Google Maps, Apple Maps etc. on the phone and then tap share and quickly send it to the navigation system. It actually sends it via Bluetooth if you are in the car already and the phone is connected so it pops up within a second on the navigation screen and from there it can quickly be added as a waypoint or the final destination. I had to make use of that last weekend, because the online searches seemed to be down temporarily.
I think there are so many awesome features in COMAND not found in Google Maps etc., if you take the time to discover them and use each one to your advantage. I find that many people who complain about these systems haven't really taken the time to get past the learning curve and just quickly dismiss it. They don't even give it a chance based on how crappy many of these systems admittedly were in the past.
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