W213 E Class problems
Hi Guys I wonder if anyone else is experiencing quality issues with there E CLass ? My Vehicle is a 22OD and was registered last September 2016. The vehicle has now covered 4500 miles and the following issues have arisen. 1, Sun glasses holder jammed and will not open. 2. Radio at times fails to operate and a Device not Available showing in the display. 3. Door mirror down ights no longer working (LED's failed) Front and rear brake judder issues through the steering wheel (awaiting new discs and pads to be fitted. All 4 wheels have been re balanced as not done correctly at the factory......... hopefully no more issues will arise as I am fed up of paying visits to my supplying dealer.
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Too bad to hear about these quality issues. LEDs that stop working seem to be a fairly common problem among the other MB cars too (c-class for example). Too thin paint is another problem and every now and then people get a car with screeching brakes which seems almost impossible to fix.
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I've got a 220d, registered earlier than yours and went in for first service yesterday with 15800 miles. Haven't had any of your issues. There is a European guy on here that's had two sets of discs due to judder. I've got the amg line with bigger front brakes and haven't had any issues. But discs seem to be a common issue
I've had a fair few electrical gremlins and tons of interior rattles though, not overly impressed really especially with dealer who constantly fails to address issues that are harder then turn screw a or push button b . Love the car overall though, just a shame it has niggles though I expected that on an early build car. |
Originally Posted by Stephen01
(Post 7106227)
Hi Guys I wonder if anyone else is experiencing quality issues with there E CLass ? My Vehicle is a 22OD and was registered last September 2016. The vehicle has now covered 4500 miles and the following issues have arisen. 1, Sun glasses holder jammed and will not open. 2. Radio at times fails to operate and a Device not Available showing in the display. 3. Door mirror down ights no longer working (LED's failed) Front and rear brake judder issues through the steering wheel (awaiting new discs and pads to be fitted. All 4 wheels have been re balanced as not done correctly at the factory......... hopefully no more issues will arise as I am fed up of paying visits to my supplying dealer.
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Every new model has a lot of issues in the first year. Every new model I've had has been problematic to one degree or another whereas every facelift car I've had have been 100 precent fault free or there abouts.
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Sorry not had time to read through all the forums yet..... any links to the relevant posts would be appreciated
Thanks Steve |
Typically does a car built nine months after the first of a new model have most of the issues addressed?
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Someone on this or the UK merc forum is in automotive industry and i seem to remember they said it's 3 months turn around from problem to embodiment of solution. Coming from aero industry to me that's a staggering speed to design out an issue and get the supply chain delivering in a new validated piece of kit. But if 3 months is true, it would mean all the infantile failures would be resolved by 9 months. Don't catch wear/age related problems though.
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Originally Posted by Benzinini
(Post 7106622)
Have you read through this forum? Seems like it's been nothing but problems.
First year models tend to always have the issues with any car. Thats why I usually buy Post face lift last year models. |
I have the W213 E220d AMG suspension, 19" AMG wheels, runflat tyres.
I do have a major issue on stability of the vehicle, due to front suspension. Changed back and front shock absorbers but still the issue is there. The car cannot stay in the road over 120km/h. Lost the back end 2 times with 80km/ h and some rain. After changing first the back shocks the car is more stable, but front end still a big issue. Unsafe to drive! The local dealer after proposed to change the front shocks also now that the problem is not fixed says that it seems that this car has this type of handling. The front axle suspension is very soft. The car entering in holes it keeps moving up and down, also left right. I am very disappointed! |
Mine is E220 D with Auto pilot.. I have following issues..(UK)
1. Map updates/Installation stuck - waiting for a service call with Merc 2. Mercedes Me shows randomly as door/window/sun-roof as open though actually not 3. Galaxy S8 is not working with remote parking pilot or Digital key |
Map issue is common, dealer had to sort mine and completely wiped COMAND.
Never had issues with Mercedes Me showing things open, good job getting they fixed, hopefully it's on the app side and not faulty car sensors. |
I Have a s213, AMG Line with 20" AMG wheels registered in october 2016, following issues have been solved by the dealership:
1 Brake judder, all Discs and pads replaced 2 tremble in steering wheel; all tires replaced with new ones, there was a height difference in them 3 Rattle from dashboard; was a hose rattling against some metal way down in the dash, they had to remove half the interior 4 door panel squeaking, replaced door panel 5 door pin stuck, replaced door pin mechanism 6 Slow command, command wiped and reinstalled every now and then my ipod disconnects in the middle of a song, dealer is looking into that now. besides that, it is an awesome car :-) |
Originally Posted by adewit
(Post 7149608)
I Have a s213, AMG Line with 20" AMG wheels registered in october 2016, following issues have been solved by the dealership:
1 Brake judder, all Discs and pads replaced 2 tremble in steering wheel; all tires replaced with new ones, there was a height difference in them 3 Rattle from dashboard; was a hose rattling against some metal way down in the dash, they had to remove half the interior 4 door panel squeaking, replaced door panel 5 door pin stuck, replaced door pin mechanism 6 Slow command, command wiped and reinstalled every now and then my ipod disconnects in the middle of a song, dealer is looking into that now. besides that, it is an awesome car :-) |
My car was built in mid-Feb 2017 and (so far) has none of these problems. I presume they corrected them in the intervening months? or maybe they just have not surfaced yet. I'm still under 1k miles.
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Maybe not as much of a problem as crappie quality. I was installing my new plates today. While holding the truck deck up to see and screw in the plate the MB emblem snapped off its mounts. it took hardly any pressure. WEAK. Emblem is more plastic. Always thought they were metal and applied similar to Porsche (a nice smack with the bottom of the palm) guess not.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1ff0101ae7.jpg |
Originally Posted by Drano64
(Post 7165213)
Maybe not as much of a problem as crappie quality. I was installing my new plates today. While holding the truck deck up to see and screw in the plate the MB emblem snapped off its mounts. it took hardly any pressure. WEAK. Emblem is more plastic. Always thought they were metal and applied similar to Porsche (a nice smack with the bottom of the palm) guess not.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1ff0101ae7.jpg |
Originally Posted by Drano64
(Post 7165213)
Maybe not as much of a problem as crappie quality. I was installing my new plates today. While holding the truck deck up to see and screw in the plate the MB emblem snapped off its mounts. it took hardly any pressure. WEAK. Emblem is more plastic. Always thought they were metal and applied similar to Porsche (a nice smack with the bottom of the palm) guess not.
does the star just pop off its mounts easily, meaning i could easily paint the emblem black and put it back? or does it have those three mounting pins plus some sort of adhesive? what about the "E300" emblem? |
Originally Posted by JcarPhoto
(Post 7166820)
slightly off topic - but i had always assumed that the trunk emblems (including the star) were just held on by double sided tape or similar. I remember back in the day we used to "shave" emblems off the trunk of our cars by taking floss and sliding it between the emblem and trunk.
does the star just pop off its mounts easily, meaning i could easily paint the emblem black and put it back? or does it have those three mounting pins plus some sort of adhesive? what about the "E300" emblem? |
Front Brake Judder
Fantasric car fully loaded W213 220d Oct 2016.
My main concern is front brake judder now on 2nd set of repl discs in 10k miles. Garage is outstanding in minimising Afro. Root cause MB changed from solid discs to bonded. I drive the car hard not aggressively plus it is my own car so I treat it with a degree of care. Braking for motorway exits from >75mph in 200m to 30mph to take a hairpin on my commut is not something that should come close to impacting disc/rotor integrity. I drove a w212 regularly around Germany at 135mph and regular had trucks pulling out doing 60mph. ....never had an issue apart from normal pad disc wear. This is different. Question are they all bonded or is the AMG different or the 350? |
Originally Posted by spapazois
(Post 7138724)
I have the W213 E220d AMG suspension, 19" AMG wheels, runflat tyres.
I do have a major issue on stability of the vehicle, due to front suspension. Changed back and front shock absorbers but still the issue is there. The car cannot stay in the road over 120km/h. Lost the back end 2 times with 80km/ h and some rain. After changing first the back shocks the car is more stable, but front end still a big issue. Unsafe to drive! The local dealer after proposed to change the front shocks also now that the problem is not fixed says that it seems that this car has this type of handling. The front axle suspension is very soft. The car entering in holes it keeps moving up and down, also left right. I am very disappointed! I also have road noise due to run-flats. The AMG sport suspensions settings make teh fort quite hard.. you can try to Setup the springs 20mm lower |
Originally Posted by Sunrose305
(Post 7151291)
My car was built in mid-Feb 2017 and (so far) has none of these problems. I presume they corrected them in the intervening months? or maybe they just have not surfaced yet. I'm still under 1k miles.
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Hi
Not big problem to my wife or to some in dealer but it drove me crazy. In low rev and idle, especially when cold, the e220d engine sounded like a old merc with no doubt there is a diesel. Had it at dealer and repair several times until I got the the specialist that found out that a modification was not applied to my car (early January 2017) and added the two screws accordingly. What a difference! Please see picture https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...836e4f1c07.png This one is done but there are more sounds around the car that should not be there, especially from back which is there every time I pass a bumb in the road. From right front door some sort of low rattling sound etc. Old e class was like indestructible solid piece of metal like tractor but not as smooth or fancy as this one. The exterior design was best in S212 before the uplift. Not entirely hooked on the back on S213 and its tail lights. All in all for being early I think it is good Sudden |
I also have the rattle low on the door and up toward my head.
It’s so annoying and this is now my 4th Mercedes with some sort of rattle. I think this will be my last. |
Originally Posted by spapazois
(Post 7138724)
I have the W213 E220d AMG suspension, 19" AMG wheels, runflat tyres.
I do have a major issue on stability of the vehicle, due to front suspension. Changed back and front shock absorbers but still the issue is there. The car cannot stay in the road over 120km/h. Lost the back end 2 times with 80km/ h and some rain. After changing first the back shocks the car is more stable, but front end still a big issue. Unsafe to drive! The local dealer after proposed to change the front shocks also now that the problem is not fixed says that it seems that this car has this type of handling. The front axle suspension is very soft. The car entering in holes it keeps moving up and down, also left right. I am very disappointed! |
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