MY18 E400 Sedan in USA--CONFIRMED!
 

I just KNEW they would do this! I am SOOOOOOO glad we waited!

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I wonder what the price will be. The DOG had tba for the MSRP.

'bout time

I'm guessing low to mid $60K's, seeing as how the E43 is $71K.

Should be around $59,900, about $2K less than the wagon. Probably will have the same P1,P2,P3 option scheme. Most likely no standard P1, widescreen cluster and air body control as in the E43.

This is a good move for MBUSA. Especially as there is no longer an E250 diesel, the E300 takes the place as the line's smaller engine output choice.

You folks will like the E400; power is almost instantaneous, and a lot smoother than the inline 4.

I haven't experienced any roughness from the 4 cylinder. Virtually silent inside the car with the Acoustic Package. The V6 will shine at highway speeds but the 4 cylinder is more than adequate for speeds under 70 mph. My highway mileage is averaging around 34mpg. Overall mpg over 9k miles is 28.4 so far.

About time....

Strange to see MBUSA offering the E400 together with the E43, I expected them to drop the E43 and bring on the new E50 AMG

Totally agree with you; but you'll feel the difference between the two when passing that 18 wheeler on the highway. :)

Try passing cars going uphill at 80mph, the e350 V6 did it with ease. The e300 screams at you.

Really? Passing cars at 80mph up hill? I'm not that aggressive a driver. So far, the E300 has been more than adequate for my moderate driving style both in suburban roads and on the interstate. I haven't noticed any engine screaming, but I do have the acoustic package installed. Remind me to try to pass a car at 80 mph when I get my E63S. Guaranteed it will be screaming as well and I'll be smiling all of the way. 😀

The Acoustic package really does quiet down the car, but I did not have the option of getting at the time of delivery. In California we have alot of hills and mountains if you are driving to Vegas or San Fran and the passing power in those hills was a pleasure to have with the V6 as you could pass without drama hitting 100+. Lets not forget these cars are made to go fast and people do so on the autobahn.

I was on the highway this morning, and when I tried passing a few 18 wheelers from 50mph to 90mph, the power was instant, and it was so effortless and quiet - and I don't have the acoustic package.

There are several acceleration flat spots. They are especially noticeable when changing gears.

Getting the V6 for the sound of the engine and for the better auto start/stop might be worth it. However, the power argument isn't there for **most** people. the 300 is really good enough. We have just been spoiled.

I like it. its fate that my last attempt to buy a MB was jacked up. I wish they would update the website so I can build an 18 and buy it.

The MBUSA website, especially the "Build" feature is always behind the times and is absolute CRAP compared to other MB sites around the world. They need to fire their website people and get a new crew in there.

Since when is good enough ok for a $60-70,000 Mercedes? The rationalization on this site to accept a 240hp four is mind blowing. I guarantee you there are now tens of thousands of e300 owners out there with massive buyers remorse. Did the Mercedes demographic leap to octogenarians? Really pathetic. Regards. Ned.

IIRC my '59 300SL had about the same power as today's E300.

Back in those days the Euro sports cars had very little power, but could outrun any Detroit iron on a winding road. It was all about handling, not straight line performance.

My favorite, a 1958 Lotus Elite, had less than 100 HP in a 1.2 liter engine. It could out maneuver any Detroit iron as well.

When I purchased my E500 in 2003, the HP of the E320 was 221 matched with a 5 speed transmission. The car was a slug. Not sure I remember any comments about the lack of power at that time. The 0-60 times were 7.6 sec.

That was then, this is now. I owned a 2000 e320, it did 0-60 in 7.5. I bought a 2001 e55 the following year. Regards. Ned.

We are EXTREMELY fortunate to live and buy cars in the United States. I'm from Thailand, and we have excise taxes on not only the price of the car, but on engine size and emission rate.

So if I was getting my car there, it would be a E220d Dynamic AMG Estate, with the new 1950cc diesel engine. That car costs THB 4,750,000 or about USD 140,000.

So from that perspective, the 1950cc E300 is a pretty damn good value.

Why you need website when Dealer Ordering Guide is available for 2018. Please let me know if you want me to send you a copy.
MBUSA is generic on what you can get anyway. If you want to order a car you sit down at the store and you do it with DOG , Netstar and a salesmen that knows what he's doing and how the specs works. Some time is good to have advice from people who've seen quite a few specs combination.

Yikes! Good to be a car buyer in US. Regards. Ned.

Its all about perspective. Im 28 and came from a 09 C350. That car had 268hp and a little less torque. This car doesn't feel like a step down in power. And it shouldnt, it has a little less hp but more torque which makes up for it. Would I want more power? Yes. But in my daily driving, I never feel underpowered.

Every brand in this class offers standard 4-cylinder power, but Mercedes' mistake was making it the only choice for most buyers, because most buyers don't want to spend 70K for an E43.

M

+1.

Same here. I bought the E400 because I believe the 6 cylinder has more power, so it doesn't have to work as hard. Hopefully that will lead to a more durable motor than the inline 4 in the long run.

Tens of thousands...really.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, uphill, on a two lane road...really.

Tens of thousands...really.
No remorse here. Don't actually recall ever needing to pass an 18-wheeler going 80mph, on a two lane road...really?

Just a rough guess based on 60-70,000 sales per year in US alone. And please don't tell me you'd not rather have a 329hp turbo 6. Really. Regards. Ned.

In 2016 MB sold close to 47k. That is E350 and E300 combined. So that number I asume will be much lower for the 2017 only E300

I believe that Mercedes, starting in 2016, includes CLS sales with E class. In any event, GoodCarBadCar (my source) reports that E class sales through May 2017 are just shy of 20,000, which works out to the same 47,000 total for year end 2017.

Passenger car sales in general are "off", in favor of Crossover and SUV sales, so with that in mind, plus the fact that the E300 is a new model ("never buy the first production year..."), it doesn't appear that the turbo 4 has caused a stampede of buyers to other models or brands. It may not be everybody's cup of tea, but that doesn't make it a bad car. In normal driving it performs every bit as well as the V6 W212...with a much nicer interior and better gas mileage.

Would I like to have 329HP? Maybe. What I'd "really" like is 603HP. :bow:

YES!!! Waiting to be able to order my 2019 E63S.

Do you mean 2018 E63S? The 2019 model is over a year away.

M

No, I am ordering a 2019 E63S next year. I have to wait for my current lease to be up.

If I wanted a bigger engine I'd have chosen one.

Some of us have more than one car...

But would you have chosen a 329hp v6 for an extra $5,000 if it was an option? I have more than one car as well but prefer a more ballsy engine in anything I drive. Still love my 2011 e550, couldn't trade down 150hp. Regards. Ned.

The next engine up in the UK (petrol or diesel) adds another £10K ($13K).

Nevertheless, I could have had either of the bigger engines if I'd wanted to but the 220d is fine for going back and forward to work, has lower emissions and is very tax efficient.

In the end we are all lucky to have the choice - choice is good!

Speaking of engines, here is a little more on the I6 that will eventually replace the E43.

http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...rtrain-107808/


M

Interesting, good find. Thanks. Regards. Ned.

That's about 496 hp and fuel thrifty. LA motor Show here I come.

It seems to suggest that the previously rumored 50AMG series will now be 53AMG

Yep.

M

Seeee at 90k a fully equiped E 43 is a BARGAIN. :owned:

We had a 2004 E500 with AirMatic. Fantastic car, but I don't think we will ever see a non AMG V8 E Class sedan again. That said, when I went to order a new SL, I just assumed that I would get an SL550 with the V8. However, after multiple test drives in the V6 powered SL450, I went for it. Amazing power and torque, along with a much lighter & sportier feel. Coupled with the new nine speed transmission, it really is a perfect combination. Like it or not, we have to face it: MB & others are rising to the occasion with new, smaller engines, offering more and more in the way of HP and torque. Now, they just need to work on refining how the I4 sounds at low speeds. I heard one the other day in a parking lot and it sounded like an old diesel.

An extra $5k? Sure. BUT it won't be an extra $5k. Try $10k.

Back with the W212, the E400 wasn't anywhere near as popular as the E350 due to this.

At least this means a more powerful engine without being forced into an AMG, and as a bonus, it's available with the Luxury trim. The '15-16 E400 was only available with the nosejob.

To be honest, with my '15 E350, the engine/transmission combo has never thrilled me. It awkwardly gets the job done, but it's a far cry from the 340HP/333ft-lb from my 2004 M45. I can't remember ever thinking "I wish I had more power" with the M45. With the E350, the car seems to have enough power, but it's computers can't figure out how to deliver it.

Working through the latest MY18 DOG as I type this....and probably going to order the 4-banger. Why? Distronic doesn't care about what's underneath the hood. ~90% of the time it's running the show on my E350. I'm sure I'll be doing the same with my E300. The mileage boost going from my M45 to E350 was substantial. Almost a 50% savings. I also enjoy filling the tank only 1-2x a week instead of 2-3x.

Key word here, "almost." I've still never drove a turbo car that didn't have turbo lag.

I really like the way the new sl's look, could be something to consider to go along with my Audi s8 plus in Florida, something that is smaller yet luxurious and fun to drive. I've never driven one, and was never sure how to think about them, sports car or what? Did you ever compare the sl to any Porsche? Also, I guess the interior is still old style, correct? Thanks. Regards. Ned.

Over my years, I've had many SL's and many 911's. At a few times, I had one of each in the garage and in those situations, I found myself wanting to drive the SL more than the Porsche. The new SL450 is an absolute delight to drive. Very luxurious, very comfortable and with the touch of a button, the top is down. Get's a bit chilly? Hit another button and the wind screen comes up. Still chilly? Raise the windows and turn on Air Scarf for a warm breeze on your neck. I absolutely love the look of the new 911 Targa, along with the way they let you order the car in amazing interior & exterior colors. However, when I think about which one I want to actually drive, the SL wins hands down. By the way, if you go with an SL, bite the bullet and order the $4K ABC. It is worth its weight in gold.