Switching from US to European Tail Lights
Hello everyone, I have been trying to switch the tail lights on my US E-Class but I have noticed that the connectors wouldn't plug in the European version that I bought from eBay. The pins are in different locations as you can see in the following pictures:
European Version (I want to install) https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b7bfb2790.jpeg US Version (Currently Installed) https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0c94284c9.jpeg I have tried looking for an adapter or conversion harness but I couldn't find anything online. Has anyone tried converting their tail lights to the European version? I would highly appreciate it if you guys could tell me where to get a conversion kit for this. |
I have emailed the seller an hour ago and asked the same thing. I'll post once he replies.
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Originally Posted by Ayes303
(Post 7389110)
I have emailed the seller an hour ago and asked the same thing. I'll post once he replies.
Some US Mercedes models, and a whole list of other manufacturers have amber (orange) rear directionals. The E class does elsewhere in the world. Why did Mercedes bother to change? |
I honestly prefer the amber lights instead of the break lights. I think the US has some regulations that requires Mercedes to modify their cars. I guess the cheapest modification would be using the brake lights to meet the legal requirements. I really hope that this thread comes out with a solution because I really don't wanna ship the European headlights back.
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There are two additional pins in the EU plug, you might need to do some wiring.
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Originally Posted by vic viper
(Post 7389249)
There are two additional pins in the EU plug, you might need to do some wiring.
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WOW! Thanks a lot for this wiring diagram! I think I could show this to someone that could modify it. I really don't know how to do wiring :confused:
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Vic again saves the day!
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Hey all - I just joined. I've enjoyed the standard amber rear indicators on my car for a few years. I've read that the reason they change in the US is because of a law requiring a "minimum amount of area to be illuminated." So even if the lights are bright enough for others to see, it may not be enough area. Another possibility, which I find likely, is for both cost savings as well as prevention of vehicles being purchased and re-imported to Europe. The same make and mode sold in the US is much less expensive than it's European counterpart. It's another hurdle for someone reimporting a car to jump through. However, I have seen several cars in Europe using either the brake/indicator combo (Audi A6) or red instead of amber (BMW X5, 5-series).
Anyway, I've been thinking about getting a newer model, but would like to change from the brake/indicator combo to an independent setup. I see Ayes303 might have been successful. Any word yet? |
Originally Posted by JWL-M
(Post 7404765)
Hey all - I just joined. I've enjoyed the standard amber rear indicators on my car for a few years. I've read that the reason they change in the US is because of a law requiring a "minimum amount of area to be illuminated." So even if the lights are bright enough for others to see, it may not be enough area. Another possibility, which I find likely, is for both cost savings as well as prevention of vehicles being purchased and re-imported to Europe. The same make and mode sold in the US is much less expensive than it's European counterpart. It's another hurdle for someone reimporting a car to jump through. However, I have seen several cars in Europe using either the brake/indicator combo (Audi A6) or red instead of amber (BMW X5, 5-series).
Anyway, I've been thinking about getting a newer model, but would like to change from the brake/indicator combo to an independent setup. I see Ayes303 might have been successful. Any word yet? |
Originally Posted by JWL-M
(Post 7404765)
Hey all - I just joined. I've enjoyed the standard amber rear indicators on my car for a few years. I've read that the reason they change in the US is because of a law requiring a "minimum amount of area to be illuminated." So even if the lights are bright enough for others to see, it may not be enough area. Another possibility, which I find likely, is for both cost savings as well as prevention of vehicles being purchased and re-imported to Europe. The same make and mode sold in the US is much less expensive than it's European counterpart. It's another hurdle for someone reimporting a car to jump through. However, I have seen several cars in Europe using either the brake/indicator combo (Audi A6) or red instead of amber (BMW X5, 5-series).
Anyway, I've been thinking about getting a newer model, but would like to change from the brake/indicator combo to an independent setup. I see Ayes303 might have been successful. Any word yet? |
Exporting MBs from the US to other countries apparently happens quite often and Mercedes (Germany) gets quite pissy about it, as one of the local dealers was telling me. They regularly get shady importers calling in, trying to secretly buy cars for export.
I also wish my US-spec MB had amber turn signals. To me, it's a safety issue. Amber = turn signal, red = brake. No ambiguity about it. Amber also tends to be more visible than red. |
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Originally Posted by BeachBunny
(Post 7405181)
Exporting MBs from the US to other countries apparently happens quite often and Mercedes (Germany) gets quite pissy about it, as one of the local dealers was telling me. They regularly get shady importers calling in, trying to secretly buy cars for export.
I also wish my US-spec MB had amber turn signals. To me, it's a safety issue. Amber = turn signal, red = brake. No ambiguity about it. Amber also tends to be more visible than red. In the W212 forum there was much discussion about upgrading headlights...from halogen to bi-xenon and/or led. A vendor responded to many of the questions with helpful information. Maybe he would like to contribute to the solution of this concern. |
@Cao_Black, you are correct. The W221 does have amber rear turn signals. My father has one. They're invisible until they're used.
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I believe that Canada and the US are the only places that allow red turn signals. Periodically title 49, section 571.108 has been reviewed to make updates due to current technology. So far those reviews have been a total failure. US vehicle lighting standards are medieval.
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Oh, don't get me started about US lighting standards... Regulations created in the 1950s and early 1960s are preventing our cars from dazzling/blinding other drivers. The car's capable of it, but the US government prohibits the cars from doing this. I'm sure there's plenty of other regulations which make things less safe due to bureaucratic ineptitude.
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Confused!
Can someone please explaon the difference ??? |
Originally Posted by Obeidat
(Post 7406027)
Can someone please explaon the difference ??? |
Originally Posted by Obeidat
(Post 7406027)
Can someone please explaon the difference ??? https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3b8d7c2140.jpg |
I too want to change my US red tail light turn signals to amber. I recently had a chance to get my hands on a EU tail light. I can confirm the different connectors. This prevented me from doing a complete connection test. I was able to test the turn signal with a test wire by jumping terminal 4(US turn signal) from the car’s wire bundle to terminal 3 (EU turn signal) on the EU lamp. The amber turn signal did function.
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Wondering if the op or anyone was able to get this figured out. I found some European taillights that have the Amber blink dynamically... But don't wanna import them until I know I can get em to work
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I'm working through it. I'm still waiting for my car, but using a friend's in the interim as a test bed. I reached out to @vic viper for some diagram assistance but no reply yet. I've paid for Mercedes TekInfo, but I guess my combination of Windows/Java won't let me view diagrams.
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Here is the wiring diagram for the Estate rear lights.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...aed979b7ef.png |
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