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Old 03-28-2018, 09:33 AM
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In a car tires are the only thing between life and death. I won't gamble family and friends on anything less than the best. I have driven a Mercedes since the 1960's because even the best tires can fail. Back in the day I experienced a very high speed tire blowout. The MB saved the day. That's why only the best is good enough.
The best is just not always what you think it is though. People think Cooper is great because most are U.S. made, but what they don't know is Cooper's plants are very old with accompanying low technology equipment. Some of these lesser brands have the newest tire machines.

What tires did you have in your blowout? If it was a premium brand, then who's to say you might not have had the blowout with some high quality Yokohama.
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They might have been either Firestone or Goodyear, but I won't dwell on tire quality. I typically limit purchases for myself to items that are actually made in Europe. There are exceptions such as electronics (Korea) and clothing (North America/Caribbean). Other than electronics I do not knowingly purchase Asian made goods though I did once when I was young and foolish. I was just about disowned by my parents when I bought a Toyota Crown (~$3,000) in the early '60's because it was cheaper than the Mercedes 190C (~$4,500) alternative. My first S Class, a W111 220SE cost l~$6,000 new.
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Originally Posted by ua549
In a car tires are the only thing between life and death. I won't gamble family and friends on anything less than the best. I have driven a Mercedes since the 1960's because even the best tires can fail. Back in the day I experienced a very high speed tire blowout. The MB saved the day. That's why only the best is good enough.
Made in China can't be the only criteria. If it were, none of us would have cellphones. I'm not ready to go out and buy Federal tires, but keep in mind Firestone was once king of the hill, and Toyo, Yokohama, Hankook, et al, were unheard of'
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It is an exercise in probabilities. The better the tire the less chance you'll die from a tire failure. I do not want good tires. I want superior tires. Back in the day before switching to air travel, I drove about 1500 miles per week. I bought a new set of superior tires every 4 months. Asian tires just do not make the grade though they may be good. They are simply attempting to copy superior German technology and DIN quality. Good marketing does not make a superior tire.
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Originally Posted by ua549
It is an exercise in probabilities. The better the tire the less chance you'll die from a tire failure. I do not want good tires. I want superior tires. Back in the day before switching to air travel, I drove about 1500 miles per week. I bought a new set of superior tires every 4 months. Asian tires just do not make the grade though they may be good. They are simply attempting to copy superior German technology and DIN quality. Good marketing does not make a superior tire.
Most DIN standards are now harmonized with EN/ISO
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Most DIN standards are now harmonized with EN/ISO
About half or a bit more of the "mandatory" Chinese GB standards meet ISO standards. I seriously doubt that GB standards are as rigorously enforced as ISO or DIN standards. If they were the Melamine disaster that affected babies in China. In the US grain products from China used in pet food had Melamine and cyanuric acid added to fraudulently raise the protein level and make their grain appear as gluten. It killed thousands of cats and dogs and resulted in the largest US pet food recall ever. Today the US government is banning all communications products that are Chinese due to security concerns. Thus my distrust of all Chinese products. Unfortunately, electronic components, Chinese or otherwise, does not have to be calculated or listed for vehicles sold in the US.
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They are cheap Chinese made tires, there is no way these tires are used as a performance tire.

Go for a premium brand, Michelin, Pirelli, Continental or similar.

TOTALLY FALSE. They are not Chinese. Not that anything wrong with China. They are made in Taiwan and the standards are very high. They are a 54+ year old tire company that specializes in racing competition. With birdgestone engineering early on. They are great tires and greater bang for the buck.

They make 140 200 and 240 tread wear and they are very sticky tires. I run them on my car and it grips hard. The RS RR destroyed the Michelin Super Sports side by side. 300 tread wear vs 140 tread wear is no competition. Michelin much better all around and niceer looking for sure. But grip no way.

My buddies run them on FBO M4 and they dont break traction hardly ever. It just slingshots and go's. Price cant be beat. They are super popular tires. LMK if you have any questions about them.
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Taiwan is part of China.
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Originally Posted by ua549
Taiwan is part of China.
Believe me, you have that wrong. Two different countries
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Originally Posted by vic viper
They are cheap Chinese made tires, there is no way these tires are used as a performance tire.

Go for a premium brand, Michelin, Pirelli, Continental or similar.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by ua549
Taiwan is part of China.
Try that line in Taipei, non-happy things will ensue.
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Taiwan is part of China.
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Ask the Chinese. Taiwan is seen as an autonomous region of mainland China. The Nationalist Chinese (Chiang Kai-shek) invaded Taiwan and replaced the government with what is now called Republic of China. That said, there is still much controversy over the interpretation of the Treaty of San Francisco and the Treaty of Taipei both of which are ambiguous as to the status of the island.

No matter if there is technically one or two countries they both refer to themselves as China (ROC & PRC). Federal Tires are made in China,
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Your reading of wikipedia was a little short. Chian didnt invade Taiwan, he and his nationalist army escaped to it from mainland China. The nationalists were the de facto government till defeated by Maos communist forces. Thus as far as Taiwan is concerned they are the Chinese government in exile. As far as the Communists are concerned they are a renegade province. Asserting that Tawan is China is like north ans south Korea are one country, factually incorrect.
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Your reading of wikipedia was a little short. Chian didnt invade Taiwan, he and his nationalist army escaped to it from mainland China. The nationalists were the de facto government till defeated by Maos communist forces. Thus as far as Taiwan is concerned they are the Chinese government in exile. As far as the Communists are concerned they are a renegade province. Asserting that Tawan is China is like north ans south Korea are one country, factually incorrect.
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I did not go to any wiki. I learned it in school while it was happening. The bottom line is that the Nationalist Chinese totally overwhelmed the Taiwan people and government. That is an invasion just like when spring breakers invade places during spring break. The difference is that spring breakers leave. Not so the Nationalist Chinese. They moved in and never left.
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Having lived in Taiwan I can say without equivocation the island in not part of the PRC.

At the end of 1949 the Chinese communists drove Chiang's forces and political party, the KMT from the mainland. They retreated to Taiwan. There was no invasion as the KMT were already established there. Involved in this mass migration were about 1,000,000 troops and 1,000,000 civilians.

Indeed, the official name of Taiwan is Republic of China. The more common more used name is Taiwan.

In my view and the people who live in Taiwan, Federal tires are manufactured in Taiwan.

And expect to be corrected if calling them Chinese. They want to be known as Taiwanese.

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They can wish all they want. I'd like to called a billionaire. Just because one puts kittens in an oven doesn't make them cookies. Tires made in the ROC are Chinese as are tires made in the PRC..

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