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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 10:45 AM
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$1200 subscription pricing for full motor power on MB EQ

It seems that MB has fallen into the subscription bandwagon, charging $1200 per year to allow full motor power and torque on MB EQ models: https://www.thedrive.com/news/merced...ion-in-its-evs

Yes, it shaves a full second off the 0-60 time, and it's a pretty significant power increase. But we should have access to the full potential of the vehicle, not have it software-unlocked. This is very disappointing - for something like cell service, I can understand. From an engineering and liability standpoint, the only thing I can think of that may justify a subscription model like this is that you stand a much higher chance of nuking your battery prematurely by repeatedly launching at full motor power availability. Not to mention the stress on the power delivery electronics. So, maybe it's a way for them to subsidize the eventual battery replacement costs under warranty. Who knows. Still, I would have expected better from MB. If I decided to get an EQE, I will likely use this as a bargaining tool on price. EQE is already a bit overpriced, this on top is not helping out. Let your dealers know this practice is unacceptable, maybe MB will change its mind on it. Hopefully this can be bypassed via SDS!
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 01:24 PM
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I was seriously considering EQS or EQE for my next vehicle and they are now 100% ruled out. I may even move away from Mercedes entirely. This is just sick. When I spend $100k+ on a vehicle it is mine and the motors should work as designed without a subscription charge. I am so disappointed in Mercedes I am struggling to find words...
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 02:22 PM
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I was seriously considering EQS or EQE for my next vehicle and they are now 100% ruled out. I may even move away from Mercedes entirely. This is just sick. When I spend $100k+ on a vehicle it is mine and the motors should work as designed without a subscription charge. I am so disappointed in Mercedes I am struggling to find words...
I saw that coming, which is sad. BMW first introduced smartphone integration subscription but that backfired and but then I think BMW started the idea again with heated seats in Korea and then Mercedes was like hmmm that was a "great" idea at least to them and so it happened. Non luxury brands like Toyota also charged subscription for remote start if I recalled correctly, I wonder if that backfired. (Edit: found the article https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/t...-subscription/, at least BMW still offers it on the key fob for free included in newer models) Here was a video shared by other forum members I came across, the journalist in the video went over the subscription model:

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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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I too recently read about this and laughed my *** off bahahaha! What a great way to make money and alienate your loyal customers at the same time LOL!!
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ccww
I was seriously considering EQS or EQE for my next vehicle and they are now 100% ruled out. I may even move away from Mercedes entirely. This is just sick. When I spend $100k+ on a vehicle it is mine and the motors should work as designed without a subscription charge. I am so disappointed in Mercedes I am struggling to find words...
Love your E250BTC, by the way. I had one myself, one of the best cars I'd ever had. Unbelievable mileage. I had nearly the exact same config, except mine was Iridium Silver and 4MATIC. It was involved in an accident (other driver's fault), and it was rebuilt, but insurance considered it totaled 6 months later. My in-laws bought it at auction, so it's still in the family. I'm in a 213 now, and was long looking forward to see what Benz would do with an electric E.

I am truly disappointed if this ends up being the case. (Who knows? Maybe they won't actually implement it?). I also do realize that the nominal power of the motors on EQE350V4 is 288HP. It may well be that $1200/year covers people who blow up their drivetrain and battery, like "ludicrous" mode in other brands. I'm not ready to quit the brand yet because of this, and am still considering the EQE. I've already called the sales manager at my dealer, asking him to push back on these plans. He wasn't aware of it. Maybe we can all force them to change their minds.
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 04:19 PM
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I feel the same way.
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I'll keep my ICE vehicles. They do not require any subscriptions. I did not extend the Mercedes me subscriptions either My '18 E300 only has 20k miles so it will last until death do us part. I'm 80.
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Looks like something they decided to talk about on mbworld's home page: https://mbworld.org/articles/acceler...models-faster/
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Looks like something they decided to talk about on mbworld's home page: https://mbworld.org/articles/acceler...models-faster/
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