EQS news & rumors
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You're totally wrong. The technology for green sourced hydrogen is continuing to improve as we speak. Starting in 2024, MB will begin using steel created in a process that uses green sourced hydrogen and electricity. Airbus is currently developing hydrogen powered commercial aircraft. These are just a couple of examples. The weakness of batteries is that they need an electrical charge to be able to generate electricity. Currently, that charge is provided by burning toxic fossil fuels. The supply of toxic fossil fuels is finite in contrast to hydrogen which is the most abundant element in the universe. The only by-product from burning green sourced hydrogen is water, not the toxic hydrocarbons generated when burning fossil fuel.
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Wrong. What do you plan to use for an electricity generating source to charge your Battery for your EV once the planet killing fossil fuel runs out? You won't need to worry about that with a hydrogen powered car.
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EQS 580
It seems many of the reviews are a bit hit or miss when it comes to braking, mainly the moving brake pedal for the regenerative brakes. It sounds like a normal brake feel can be achieved by reducing the regenerative brakes to a minimum, although of course at the cost of efficiency/range.
1. It is more efficient - not sure about that. Porsche benchmarked their Taycan on the model S. Their comment was that coasting without regeneration (i.e., nothing until you physically push the brake pedal) is the most efficient solution, as there is no such thing as 100% efficiency when you convert kinetic energy back to electricity. Thinking of physics, this is probably correct. Also the Taycan gets substantially more range than EPA rating, they must be doing something right with their implementation of blended regeneration / physical braking....
2. One-pedal braking is the hallmark of EVs and once you experience it you cannot live without it. For a long time I thought this is true - then I got my Taycan. The coasting implementation is fantastic - very different from an ICE vehicle where you always have some engine brake. Probably closest sensation is if you switch to neutral while driving (don't do it, it is illegal
. After driving a Tesla for 5 years, it took me a little time to re-adjust. Now I find single-pedal driving very irritating whenever I take my wife's Model 3 for a spin.I am seriously considering the EQS (or EQE) as a replacement when my Taycan lease expires. I will probably switch default regenerative braking to off and enjoy the ride without building up my leg muscles trying to modulate how much I lift off....
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EQS 580
Apparently doing something for a century is not a guarantee of superiority. Case in point is your transmission. Tesla has developed a remarkable product given the short time they have been at it. When the model S came out Consumer Reports called it the best car they had ever driven. What that car showed is that there was some inherent superiority in doing things differently than they had been done for the last century.
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Couple personal opinions here on the one-pedal braking.
1. It is more efficient - not sure about that. Porsche benchmarked their Taycan on the model S. Their comment was that coasting without regeneration (i.e., nothing until you physically push the brake pedal) is the most efficient solution, as there is no such thing as 100% efficiency when you convert kinetic energy back to electricity. Thinking of physics, this is probably correct. Also the Taycan gets substantially more range than EPA rating, they must be doing something right with their implementation of blended regeneration / physical braking....
2. One-pedal braking is the hallmark of EVs and once you experience it you cannot live without it. For a long time I thought this is true - then I got my Taycan. The coasting implementation is fantastic - very different from an ICE vehicle where you always have some engine brake. Probably closest sensation is if you switch to neutral while driving (don't do it, it is illegal. After driving a Tesla for 5 years, it took me a little time to re-adjust. Now I find single-pedal driving very irritating whenever I take my wife's Model 3 for a spin.
I am seriously considering the EQS (or EQE) as a replacement when my Taycan lease expires. I will probably switch default regenerative braking to off and enjoy the ride without building up my leg muscles trying to modulate how much I lift off....
1. It is more efficient - not sure about that. Porsche benchmarked their Taycan on the model S. Their comment was that coasting without regeneration (i.e., nothing until you physically push the brake pedal) is the most efficient solution, as there is no such thing as 100% efficiency when you convert kinetic energy back to electricity. Thinking of physics, this is probably correct. Also the Taycan gets substantially more range than EPA rating, they must be doing something right with their implementation of blended regeneration / physical braking....
2. One-pedal braking is the hallmark of EVs and once you experience it you cannot live without it. For a long time I thought this is true - then I got my Taycan. The coasting implementation is fantastic - very different from an ICE vehicle where you always have some engine brake. Probably closest sensation is if you switch to neutral while driving (don't do it, it is illegal
. After driving a Tesla for 5 years, it took me a little time to re-adjust. Now I find single-pedal driving very irritating whenever I take my wife's Model 3 for a spin.I am seriously considering the EQS (or EQE) as a replacement when my Taycan lease expires. I will probably switch default regenerative braking to off and enjoy the ride without building up my leg muscles trying to modulate how much I lift off....
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When electric vehicles were offered in very limited production - it was very cool. But it's changing very rapidly right now... and before you commit yourself to a (non-hybrid) fully electric vehicle, you have to prepare yourself and think twice about the questions like:
- Are you ready to deal with cables and chargers?
- Are EQ vehicles really going to save you money?
- Are EV's really good for the climate?
Watch this video about the Pros and Cons of the upcoming Mercedes EQ line here:
- Are you ready to deal with cables and chargers?
- Are EQ vehicles really going to save you money?
- Are EV's really good for the climate?
Watch this video about the Pros and Cons of the upcoming Mercedes EQ line here:
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So the Wallbox $700 + tax + installation, labor and parts! You're going to spend more money on the first day... than most people spend on gasoline in the entire year!
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Besides... I don't know why people have it in their heads that buying a $100k MB is about saving money?!?
If I wanted to be cheap I would buy a used Nissan Leaf and only charge at work.
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Its a home upgrade, and the final cost will be much less after rebates and tax breaks. I paid $699 for my ChargePoint HomeFlex and I got a $300 rebate from my utility company. I will get my tax breaks next year for the Wallbox and installation.
Besides... I don't know why people have it in their heads that buying a $100k MB is about saving money?!?
If I wanted to be cheap I would buy a used Nissan Leaf and only charge at work.
Besides... I don't know why people have it in their heads that buying a $100k MB is about saving money?!?
If I wanted to be cheap I would buy a used Nissan Leaf and only charge at work.
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So now let's see, have a garage for the car, charger is in garage, plug in charger when I get home and I'm good for another 350 miles tomorrow.
Well Gee golly, I'm just not sure I can handle that kind of complexity in my life.
or maybe I take one of these that day.
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Well Gee golly, I'm just not sure I can handle that kind of complexity in my life.
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I watched several videos of a professional test driving the EQS580. Besides the fact that he loves the car except for a couple things he says could have been better (exterior styling, braking)), he says that the range by the EPA is underestimated. He thinks in the real world, the range will be well over 400 miles. He was driving it real hard.
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When electric vehicles were offered in very limited production - it was very cool. But it's changing very rapidly right now... and before you commit yourself to a (non-hybrid) fully electric vehicle, you have to prepare yourself and think twice about the questions like:
- Are you ready to deal with cables and chargers?
- Are EQ vehicles really going to save you money?
- Are EV's really good for the climate?
Watch this video about the Pros and Cons of the upcoming Mercedes EQ line here:
https://youtu.be/AZ166mBr8uQ
- Are you ready to deal with cables and chargers?
- Are EQ vehicles really going to save you money?
- Are EV's really good for the climate?
Watch this video about the Pros and Cons of the upcoming Mercedes EQ line here:
https://youtu.be/AZ166mBr8uQ
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These "lower level cars" ( EQS450 and S500 6 cyl) are the top models in the UK. They do not get the EQS 580 or the V8 S class. I am not sure if they get the AMG S-Class or if they will get the EQS53.
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Really, I find racing luxury cars around a track, logging 0-60 and 1/4 mile times all a bit silly but that's CarWow, just click-bait. Nothing more than a little fun.
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580 delay rumor
https://electricvehicleweb.com/mercedes-eqs-hyperscreen-semiconductor/"
November 1, 2021
According to the report, the Mercedes EQS 450+ is available and will roll out as usual by the end of 2021. It is dependent on the options the customer has chosen, but the 450+ does not get the MBUX Hyperscreen as standard. As such, 450+ variants without the Hyperscreen roll out first. It’s possible to buy the EQS 450+ before the end of 2021, suggests a more recent report from JESMB.
The 580 4Matic customers, on the other hand, will have to wait about a year, according to the first report. Depending on semiconductor availability, 580 4Matic will start rolling out from the third or fourth quarter of 2022, JESMB says".
November 1, 2021
According to the report, the Mercedes EQS 450+ is available and will roll out as usual by the end of 2021. It is dependent on the options the customer has chosen, but the 450+ does not get the MBUX Hyperscreen as standard. As such, 450+ variants without the Hyperscreen roll out first. It’s possible to buy the EQS 450+ before the end of 2021, suggests a more recent report from JESMB.
The 580 4Matic customers, on the other hand, will have to wait about a year, according to the first report. Depending on semiconductor availability, 580 4Matic will start rolling out from the third or fourth quarter of 2022, JESMB says".
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https://electricvehicleweb.com/mercedes-eqs-hyperscreen-semiconductor/"
November 1, 2021
According to the report, the Mercedes EQS 450+ is available and will roll out as usual by the end of 2021. It is dependent on the options the customer has chosen, but the 450+ does not get the MBUX Hyperscreen as standard. As such, 450+ variants without the Hyperscreen roll out first. It’s possible to buy the EQS 450+ before the end of 2021, suggests a more recent report from JESMB.
The 580 4Matic customers, on the other hand, will have to wait about a year, according to the first report. Depending on semiconductor availability, 580 4Matic will start rolling out from the third or fourth quarter of 2022, JESMB says".
November 1, 2021
According to the report, the Mercedes EQS 450+ is available and will roll out as usual by the end of 2021. It is dependent on the options the customer has chosen, but the 450+ does not get the MBUX Hyperscreen as standard. As such, 450+ variants without the Hyperscreen roll out first. It’s possible to buy the EQS 450+ before the end of 2021, suggests a more recent report from JESMB.
The 580 4Matic customers, on the other hand, will have to wait about a year, according to the first report. Depending on semiconductor availability, 580 4Matic will start rolling out from the third or fourth quarter of 2022, JESMB says".
Last edited by stealth.pilot; Nov 7, 2021 at 08:57 PM.
