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A hybrid would be surprising - much more complicated and expensive that transitioning straight to full EV. MB should test the market and work through the inevitable recalls with its EQS before converting its entire stable.
I would be surprised if they had a fully electric G design ready by MY '22. I can see a hybrid G, and an all electric G would be a bit like a papier-mâché submarine - useful only as a status symbol in the suburbs.
At this point in time electric cars are really just remote tail pipe machines. 84% of the world's power comes from burning fossil fuels. Add to that the hit on the environment for battery and motor manufacture and disposal and it is clear an electric car is a total ecco fallacy as of today and certainly in 2022.
I am very disappointed about the fate of the G but now I know I must really take care of my G.
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At this point in time electric cars are really just remote tail pipe machines. 84% of the world's power comes from burning fossil fuels. Add to that the hit on the environment for battery and motor manufacture and disposal and it is clear an electric car is a total ecco fallacy as of today and certainly in 2022.
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Originally Posted by hard top
That dealer is not being truthful about the changeover. It sounds like he is giving lip service to a customer to get them out of there.
How do you know the dealer isn't being truthful?
FYI, the 2022 GT 63 and E 63 models have been cancelled.
2022 G 63's are delayed right now. The OP's post makes sense if Daimler is trying to salvage the situation.
How do you know the dealer isn't being truthful?
FYI, the 2022 GT 63 and E 63 models have been cancelled.
2022 G 63's are delayed right now. The OP's post makes sense if Daimler is trying to salvage the situation.
I was told just the E63 wagons were moved to e450 wagons...not sedan
How do you know the dealer isn't being truthful?
FYI, the 2022 GT 63 and E 63 models have been cancelled.
2022 G 63's are delayed right now. The OP's post makes sense if Daimler is trying to salvage the situation.
Thanks for confirming the information. Something's up but guess we will see.
Most likely these production cuts are the result of semiconductor and other material shortages. No car manufacturer is going to shut down its production for a year or more and stop selling vehicles because its next generation design isn't yet ready.
There have been numerous such articles, but in the end it comes down to simple physics - it takes X amount of energy to move Y amount of mass from point A to point B and the energy to power electric cars must come from somewhere. Right now, the majority of that energy comes from burning fossil fuels which still makes them a remote tailpipe. Highly efficient gas-hybrid cars could also achieve significant carbon reduction and given the current state of battery development (e.g., recharge time), they would be much more practical.
I spent the first eight years of my engineering career designing power distribution and control systems for some of the first wind farms in California. I learned that you have to ask a critical question - is the total energy cycle such that are you making/saving more energy than than you used e.g., are you just trading one form of energy for another. The answer for early wind and solar installations was no. But fortunately, that has changed significantly for the better over time.
What really needs to happen is to change the generation and distribution system to reduce or eliminate its dependence on fossil fuels. That's a much tougher nut to crack. Electric cars are easy because the technology is available and the investment is spread over many people who buy them one at a time. Investment in infrastructure required massive capital investment, something that, at least in the US, has been difficult for government and companies to do.
I hope such infrastructure changes do occur which will not only help electric cars deliver on their promise of zero emissions, but also help reduce the carbon footprint of homes and industry as well.
There are so many ways to slice and dice the statistics, that it has become impossible to deduce a coherent and indisputable conclusion. But I think there's much to ponder about any EV's efficiency and economics when even environmentalists want to claim their $7500 tax credit for buying one.
There are so many ways to slice and dice the statistics, that it has become impossible to deduce a coherent and indisputable conclusion. But I think there's much to ponder about any EV's efficiency and economics when even environmentalists want to claim their $7500 tax credit for buying one.
Correct. Studies can be slanted in any direction. Only time will tell whether this whole EV experiment was the right path. Meanwhile there are those that are invested in EV's in one way or another so that agenda exists.
07-24-2021, 08:33 AM
