Deezwho

In the same boat as you, 21 G550 with low miles. Im preordering the new 7 Seat Range Rover that I will lease through my company and probably flip the G for 50k+ profit while putting my name down for a new one whenever it comes be it a 23 G63 or 24 EQG.

I think the Range could handle any snow conditions you encounter, just don't upgrade to the 23" tires I guess?

jamesszzz

But the tech in the new Range Rover will be leagues better than the current G-Class. I don't think it will be nearly as fun as the G63, but it will be significantly more luxurious and advanced.

They're both fantastic and you can like both at the same time. When I drive myself, I take the G. When I am driven, I always use the Range Rover.

abhatti55

Going back to BMW V8 should bring some enjoyment back. Suspension is heavily revised and maybe there is an SVR spec down the road with the M5 engine in it.

places

No one buys a G because of tech.

SLC4S

Dropping my kids off at school today I counted 16 black range rovers in the less than 3 mile drive. As soon as deliveries start here in LA its going to be very much "a thing" if you have the new or old one and dealers will take advantage of it for 24 months. Its going to be nuts.

hard top

Buyers will lose except for one scenario where it appreciates more and then the buyer becomes a seller. For me, it is silly to think the price gouging is a good idea to give in to. What goes up must come down. Use your financial intelligence, be patient and wait for a reasonable deal.

places

My DC based dealer ADM now at 125K for G63. Insanity.

Deezwho

My LR dealer just told me has 90! Preorders for the new Range. Almost all autobiography or first editions. I’m on the list but I guess I may be keeping my G a little longer than expected lol

streborx

How many were on flatbeds on the way back to the dealer? (Lol)

hard top

I'm sure he'd like to have 90 pre-orders. You can tell he is lying because his lips are moving.

cryptopreneur

Coming from a Ranger Rover Sport SVR, I don't you can compare a RR to a G Wagon...

To be completely honest, I don't like the new RR design. I think the old ones look much better. The inside is the Velar + a few gimmicks in the rear. Unless you're in Dubai or London, who chauffeurs in a RR, lol?

Anyways, like someone mentioned before, although I don't think the new RR has better tech, no one buys a G Wagon for the tech. G Wagon is a statement. 2+ year waiting list to get an order in if you're lucky to get on the waitlist first. RR are mass produced and the new ones are not unique at all. Especially for the full size RR, they should've made it more unique. They took everything from the Velar and added it to the new RR. How is that unique? The back looks like a Kia. Just killed the statement it once was. Too much "tech" isn't good either. Tech get's obsolete fast. I can see those new screens in the front getting obsolete VERY fast.

As an ex-die hard fan of RR, I think they missed it this time.

Deezwho

I agree I don’t think it’s apples to apples comparison at all but to me the 7 new seater is a compelling alternative to driving an Escalade or a GLS. Based on that comparison the Range would win in my mind. GLS steering feels like driving a video game simulator and the Escalade is like driving a boat.
I also dont have to worry about my kids kicking the back of my chair when I drop them off at school in a LWB Range vs the G. But for sure the G is on its own level when driving for fun.

It’s probably for the best that RR doesn’t try to compete directly with the G. They will never win that one.

BenzCali

You can not compare RR with G, two different cars. Maybe the defender but than again it can never come close to G when it comes to the interior.

Had another dealer quote me 50K over for the new RR. Even tried out of state and no LR dealer is willing to sell out of state due to some sort of an agreement that all LR dealers have with LR (manufacturer). They can not sell outside of their market area. CA dealers are taking advantage of this agreement, knowing you can not by anywhere else.

I paid sticker for G63, no way I am paying over for a LR.

Bob Z.

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For what it is worth, the person who said they were buying my 2020 G550, asked a million questions, and committed to buying it several times, changed his mind so it is still for sale at what I think is a great price: https://mbworld.org/forums/market/825685

And no further price reductions! It is paid for and I do not need the money, I detailed it last weekend and it will stay in the garage until it sells at that price.

Hodog16

Been that way for LR for years - my understanding is that the dealers get bonuses or some sort of financial incentive from LR for every customer they sell to within their geographic area. If they sell out of region they miss out.

The only time I've seen people work around it is if they have a local family member's address they can use, but even in that instance LR dealers don't like that arrangement because out of region buyers don't service vehicles there.

harrish85

I own a RR and have a G63 on order and would agree that the RR ATB or SVA is comparable. The off-road capabilities are comparable and the supreme comfort of the RR is second to none. The RR will sell like hotcakes and there will be big markups on them for sure. Once the order books open up I plan on ordering a 7 seat ATB fully specd with MSRP of $170k. You can’t beat that price point when you’re getting a solid V8, premium build quality and materials. I have 2 small kids and the rear entertainment and deployable side steps are also big pluses. The tech is also top notch.

ssim

I was told that my first week of December production G63 (literally 2 weeks from now) was cut by MB and pushed to 2023. Ordered 1.5 years ago. Has anyone heard the same? Any info would greatly be appreciated

streborx

Was yours an MSRP deal? Did you ever receive a copy of the order sheet with a VIN?

ssim

MSRP deal which is on paper, text, and email. No VIN as it wasn't produced yet. I have PO# through the NetStar screenshot.

The SA is super nice...I hope this really is coming from MB. I'm being told it's been pushed to July '22 production as a MY23.

Hodog16

There are ways to find out if your dealer is playing games with you or not, especially since you have the PO number.

Regardless--what can you do? No reason to jeopardize your spot in line.

ssim

I called MBUSA. I gave the very kinda rep the PO# and she told me a few things: 1) the spec of the vehicle had changed ; 2) it still indicates it’ll be produced in Dec and ; 3) that NetStar shows “client information removed from PO”…and that there’s a name (not mine) on the right side of NetStar.

I don’t know what to do. She offered to file a complaint, but I said I’d call the SA and his GM first.

If there’s any MB sales associates or managers on here that can definitively tell me from the PO# whether I’ve been screwed out of the allocation or not, I’d appreciate the help.

streborx

Something stinks here -- sounds like your allocation was re-allocated and will go out the door to somebody else at MSRP +$100K.

ssim

I agree....but I'm honestly just not sure what to do. If I complain to corporate, they likely won't do anything, and I've burned the bridge. I want the car, but it's a messed up feeling getting so close to production (after luckily securing one of the last spots) just to get screwed over.

hard top

If you file a complaint there is a record of what happened.

ssim

She said if I filed a complaint, they'd contact the GM, and that it'd be held against the dealership. When I asked her what that meant, she really couldn't say for sure, so I don't know if it's just a slap on the wrist...lost $ / allocations...etc. From my luck, I'll file a complaint and screw myself out of the hypothetical July 2022 build slot.

Even if I get an allocation for next July, it'll basically be another year before I see the car. Knowing Mercedes, they'll just skip MY23 entirely and go straight to EQG for MY24.

I do not know what to do. First world problem, sure, but when you've waited sooo long and get sooo close, it hurts.