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texas008 04-29-2024 12:30 PM

Edelmann Elite power steering pump @ rockauto
 
Wondering if anyone has any feedback/impression on Edelmann Elite power steering pump at rockauto?
They are new pumps instead of remanufactured, and offer a 100-year / 1-million-mile warranty.

I ordered a bosch remanufactured PS pump from FCP euro, turned out to be a wrong part. It is missing a o ring groove at the connector to the PS reservoir, as shown in pictures attached (first picture is the Bosch pump, second picture is the pump actually used in GL450 with a o ring groove).

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...417ae63eef.jpg



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9cce072041.jpg



eric_in_sd 04-29-2024 01:12 PM

Does the pump you received actually look like the upper picture? I ask because the entire fitting that goes into the reservoir looks different. There is no place for the o-ring (with a D-shaped profile) to sit.

texas008 04-29-2024 01:22 PM

yes the wrong pump is still listed at FCP euro as the pump for GL450, it does not have a groove for the o-ring.
I found this just before taking off the old PS pump.
comparison photo attached. old and new. they are different in many aspects.
I've sent notice to FCP euro and waiting for them to get back to me.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9be5bb3bc2.jpg


texas008 04-29-2024 01:27 PM

Next my options are
Meyle PS pump, $368 at FCP euro,
Edelmann Elite PS pump, $150 at rockauto
AAE PS pump $174 at rockauto
(and many other brand PS pumps at rockauto)

Drivestar PS pump, $65 at amazon.
OEM pump, $470 at local MB dealer.

eric_in_sd 04-29-2024 02:01 PM

I suspect that fitting is a redesign, sparing you from stretching the ring over the initial step. Is it the same diameter?

texas008 04-29-2024 02:32 PM

I did not measure the diameter. but the Bosch one is a remanufactured one with $200 core deposit. maybe it should look the same as the original one

eric_in_sd 04-29-2024 02:54 PM

The remanufactured Bosch I got a few months ago had the original style fitting.

I am curious what FCP comes back with. If you are so inclined, you might want to contact Bosch about it.

texas008 04-29-2024 03:19 PM

did a search on bosch auto website, it does not have a power steering pump that fit a 2007 GL450.
It has starters, alternators for a 2007 GL450 though, with direct links to respective amazon page, that's pretty convenient.

Max Blast 04-29-2024 04:19 PM

Well, how they slapped German sounding names on Chinesium as a badge of confidence.

eric_in_sd 04-29-2024 06:57 PM

The Bosch pump is KS01000604 and is available all over the place.

The pictures all have a cap on the fitting. I'd guess that FCP shipped you the wrong part, if their photo does not have the cap.

vesiadog 04-30-2024 12:56 AM

MB dealer with great prices
 

Mercedes-Benz (005-466-22-01-80)

$238 let me know and I can hook you up with this dealer. They have just started to get an internet presence and are kicking butt on prices. I have made about 6 orders and all went smooth but 1 … they made it right with a free overnight shipping .

texas008 04-30-2024 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by vesiadog (Post 8963438)

Mercedes-Benz (005-466-22-01-80)

$238 let me know and I can hook you up with this dealer. They have just started to get an internet presence and are kicking butt on prices. I have made about 6 orders and all went smooth but 1 … they made it right with a free overnight shipping .

Yes, Which MB dealer is this, this is a great price. Price at my local MB dealer is $470 for a power steering pump for my 2007 GL450.

texas008 04-30-2024 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by eric_in_sd (Post 8963301)
The Bosch pump is KS01000604 and is available all over the place.

The pictures all have a cap on the fitting. I'd guess that FCP shipped you the wrong part, if their photo does not have the cap.

It's confusing. the photo on their website do not have cap. FCP euro have not get back to me yet, they usually get back within 24 hours. maybe this is a tricky issue.
One other buyer left a review on this pump at Amazon: "Worked great in 2009 GL450, had to double up reservoir oring as it doesn’t come with the sleeve on the end. But works"
So this pump might work, but i'd better not to take chances.

vesiadog 04-30-2024 09:41 AM

MB DEALER
 

Originally Posted by texas008 (Post 8963513)
Yes, Which MB dealer is this, this is a great price. Price at my local MB dealer is $470 for a power steering pump for my 2007 GL450.

They are located in Erie PA.. Nick is head of parts (tell him Bill sent you )
https://www.valuemercedesbenzparts.c...power+steering

eric_in_sd 04-30-2024 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by texas008 (Post 8963513)
Yes, Which MB dealer is this, this is a great price. Price at my local MB dealer is $470 for a power steering pump for my 2007 GL450.

You're probably looking at new. The remanufactured MB pump lists for $339, now $238.

This is the same price as the remanufactured Bosch pump on Rock Auto. Both this dealer and Rock Auto will charge shipping. Rock Auto has a hefty core charge ($175); this dealer for some reason has a much smaller core charge ($26.50), almost small enough to make return shipping not worth it.

For some reason, the pump is listed as being for "without speed sensitive power steering". I never heard of the pumps being different; the speed sensitive mechanism is on the steering rack.

texas008 04-30-2024 11:52 AM

FCP just decided to ship a replacement PS pump to me (Meyle PS pump), which they verified to have the o ring cap.
sounds pretty good, will see how it goes.

texas008 04-30-2024 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by eric_in_sd (Post 8963611)
You're probably looking at new. The remanufactured MB pump lists for $339, now $238.

This is the same price as the remanufactured Bosch pump on Rock Auto. Both this dealer and Rock Auto will charge shipping. Rock Auto has a hefty core charge ($175); this dealer for some reason has a much smaller core charge ($26.50), almost small enough to make return shipping not worth it.

For some reason, the pump is listed as being for "without speed sensitive power steering". I never heard of the pumps being different; the speed sensitive mechanism is on the steering rack.

Yes, all three PS pumps (Bosch, Mercedes, Meyle) at FCP website for 2007 GL450 says "For vehicles without Speed Sensitive Steering (option code 213)".
But when i checked my GL450 using Vin de-coder, it shows mine has the speed sensitive power steering speed sensor.

eric_in_sd 04-30-2024 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by texas008 (Post 8963628)
Yes, all three PS pumps (Bosch, Mercedes, Meyle) at FCP website for 2007 GL450 says "For vehicles without Speed Sensitive Steering (option code 213)".
But when i checked my GL450 using Vin de-coder, it shows mine has the speed sensitive power steering speed sensor.

I think it is a mistake. My GL has the speed-sensitive power steering, and yet when I put my VIN into the dealership search tool, the pump that pops up is "Exc.Speed Sensitive Steering."

texas008 05-02-2024 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by vesiadog (Post 8963537)
They are located in Erie PA.. Nick is head of parts (tell him Bill sent you )
https://www.valuemercedesbenzparts.c...power+steering

Thanks a lot for the info.
will try buy from this dealership next time, since FCP overnighted me a replacement PS pump.


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