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firstgl 12-02-2012 08:34 PM

Tire Pressure for GL 550
 
very confusing, the inside door signage has 39psi front 47psi rear, the inside gaz cover signage has 32psi all around, any thoughts on why they are different and which one to follow.

JimBarnhart 12-03-2012 03:25 PM

Wow, that's interesting, I have to check my GL350 now. Maybe the 3rd option would be to see what pressure they have by checking the TPMS?

I'll let you know what mine says.

firstgl 12-03-2012 09:11 PM

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Am I missing something? the following pictures shows the gas cover and inside B pillar tire pressure which are different, in addition the dealer said it should be 33 psi all around, so go figure...

Mbenz260e 12-03-2012 09:31 PM

I don't have an answer but would seem the fuel tank door doesn't account for 21" rims. I believe there was similar confusion on the W212s when they came out...

blittle 12-03-2012 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by firstgl (Post 5453330)
very confusing, the inside door signage has 39psi front 47psi rear, the inside gaz cover signage has 32psi all around, any thoughts on why they are different and which one to follow.

Sounds like the two postings are NOT talking about the same tires! The higher pressures would be for lower profile 20+ in tires. The GL ( all models) can handle anything from 18 to...what is the upper limit on the 550 21 or 22? One of those stickers relates to the tires you actually have on the vehicle!

fabbrisd1 12-04-2012 02:05 AM

Forget the pillar pressure markings/decal they are nonsensical in all MB models.

Shipped from factory at 42lbs PSI for shipping - to be corrected before delivery by the dealer - many dealers do NitoFill for correction/full evac/refill up on a rack to do that

Inside fuel filler door are the accurate factory "recommendations" for your specific model and tire set- however I recommend you start at +4lb PSI - run for a full week, then reduce by 2lbs and try that for a week - then decide which direction you prefer and go from there.

The TPMS is very sensitive so it can react quickly to a drop in pressure - so as a result TPMS is also sensitive to temperature/pressure changes - so too sensitive for general tire pressure setting/work - hope I have expressed myself well on that.

blittle 12-04-2012 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by fabbrisd1 (Post 5455002)
Forget the pillar pressure markings/decal they are nonsensical in all MB models.

Shipped from factory at 42lbs PSI for shipping - to be corrected before delivery by the dealer - many dealers do NitoFill for correction/full evac/refill up on a rack to do that

Inside fuel filler door are the accurate factory "recommendations" for your specific model and tire set- however I recommend you start at +4lb PSI - run for a full week, then reduce by 2lbs and try that for a week - then decide which direction you prefer and go from there.

The TPMS is very sensitive so it can react quickly to a drop in pressure - so as a result TPMS is also sensitive to temperature/pressure changes - so too sensitive for general tire pressure setting/work - hope I have expressed myself well on that.

Thanks for the info....

sraza 12-05-2012 09:29 PM

the pressures mentioned are for the same rims and tires- normal load is 32-33psi and for heavy loads or for driving around or over 100mph you need to add more air- which is where the 47psi is recommended..

hope that helps..

fabbrisd1 12-05-2012 11:52 PM

Let me say this again - for all MB US models - fuel filler door pressures have meaning - pillar pressures are nonsensical..

Crazybob 12-30-2012 09:43 PM

i thought the same thing with my 2013 GL550.. Still don't know what the right pressure is???

N_Jay 12-30-2012 10:10 PM

There is no "right" pressure.

Tire pressure is always a compromise.

cookstar 12-30-2012 10:17 PM

more air= better for higher speeds, improved mpg ..... less air= lower speeds, more traction, lower mpg
99.99% of the time it should be 32-33 PSI

Steve Maislin 12-31-2012 06:24 AM

I have the 19" wheels and use 33 all around COLD. When driving for 30 minutes or so, during this time of year (it's COLD out) they are running at 35. I did this based on a light load (just front passengers) and the gas filler door suggestions. I may boost it a bit to 36 cold in the rear, but that will be about as high as I go. That will be to accommodate four passengers. To me, the important thing is to not have pressure below 32 and to have it balanced.

Steve Maislin 12-31-2012 06:26 AM

OH, let me add: I am about to put 18" wheels with SNOW tires on the car next week. I will run those at 32 all around.

cookstar 12-31-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Steve Maislin (Post 5487843)
OH, let me add: I am about to put 18" wheels with SNOW tires on the car next week. I will run those at 32 all around.

can you put 18's on? I thought you cant go lower than 19's?

N_Jay 12-31-2012 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 5487610)
more air= better for higher speeds, improved mpg ..... less air= lower speeds, more traction, lower mpg
99.99% of the time it should be 32-33 PSI

Lower air does not increase traction.

Lower air increases chance of hydroplaning, and increases tread flex lowering cornering traction.

About the only improvement from lower pressure is ride quality.

Steve Maislin 01-01-2013 05:37 PM

You can use an 18" wheel on the GL
 

Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 5487991)
can you put 18's on? I thought you cant go lower than 19's?

At one point, 18" was standard. But, everybody wants the low profile look. With snows, a taller and narrower tire is better. Went with an 18X8 Falken wheel with a 265/60R18 Falken Eurowinter HS449. This is almost exactly the same as the size you have when you buy the 19" wheels with the standard Conti factory tires. Basically, a smaller wheel and a taller tire. Speed readings should be about the same.

I have the 19" wheels that came with the vehicle as I like the ride over what you get with the 20 or 21 inch wheels.

I am not as concerned over the look as I am getting a ride that I like. Everyone has their own preferences and it seems that is why there are so many options.

Steve Maislin 01-04-2013 08:33 PM

18" wheels are a bad idea.
 
Don't go with 18" wheels. They won't fit the front due to the size of the calipers. I had a fun day wasting my time trying to install them.

cookstar 01-04-2013 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Maislin (Post 5493250)
Don't go with 18" wheels. They won't fit the front due to the size of the calipers. I had a fun day wasting my time trying to install them.

I thought so lol !

N_Jay 01-04-2013 09:55 PM

18 was standard on 2008. I have the Datacard to show that is how the one I am buying is equipped.


Datacard


Identification number: 4JG1648221A

VIN: 4JGBF22EX8A
Chassis


Sales designation: GL 320 CDI 4MATIC

Order number: 0 8 714 00494
Delivery date: 10 12 2007
470 TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR (TPM) LOW LINE
494 U.S. VERSION
690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
705L UNITED STATES (USA)
7XXL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA
M642 V6 DIESEL ENGINE OM642
R02 ALL SEASON TYRES
R31 18" LIGHT ALLOY WHEEL 5-SPOKE DESIGN ALL-ROUND
V41 SPEED+ - LOADINDEX 110 H


EDIT:

Oops, DId not notice this as X166 forum

Steve Maislin 01-05-2013 08:14 AM

Yep, 18" used to be the standard.
 
Yes, it was standard at one time on the X164. Now, on the X166 model 19" is the smallest wheel due to front brake caliper size. That is why I tried it and it was a dumb idea for the 2013 GL.

Mbenz260e 01-07-2013 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Steve Maislin (Post 5493710)
Yes, it was standard at one time on the X164. Now, on the X166 model 19" is the smallest wheel due to front brake caliper size. That is why I tried it and it was a dumb idea for the 2013 GL.

Thanks for sharing so the rest of us avoid that mistake.

SFML320 10-12-2013 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by fabbrisd1 (Post 5455002)
Forget the pillar pressure markings/decal they are nonsensical in all MB models.

Shipped from factory at 42lbs PSI for shipping - to be corrected before delivery by the dealer - many dealers do NitoFill for correction/full evac/refill up on a rack to do that

Inside fuel filler door are the accurate factory "recommendations" for your specific model and tire set- however I recommend you start at +4lb PSI - run for a full week, then reduce by 2lbs and try that for a week - then decide which direction you prefer and go from there.

The TPMS is very sensitive so it can react quickly to a drop in pressure - so as a result TPMS is also sensitive to temperature/pressure changes - so too sensitive for general tire pressure setting/work - hope I have expressed myself well on that.

Why take the gas door versus the pillar labels, especially when the pillar directly lists the specific tire specs?

Having 47psi is a bit high though....

octurbo 10-12-2013 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by SFML320 (Post 5807952)
Why take the gas door versus the pillar labels, especially when the pillar directly lists the specific tire specs?

Having 47psi is a bit high though....

My service advisor also said to use the specs on the gas door

wamochi 10-12-2013 06:20 PM

my GL550 just started saying "correct tire pressure" on the display when turning the car off. it displayed anywhere from 31-33 psi for the four tires.

if i use the gas cap recommendation, then i shouldn't have had to pump any air and the display would continue coming on. so i filled them to the pillar recommendation for front/back, which seems high, but the car is riding fine and if anything i hope to get a little better mpg.

this is the first time since taking delivery on 5/11/13 that i've filled any air.


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