Need help in deciding over a 2014 GL450, Please!
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Can somebody please help me in cracking this?
I am looking at 2 different vehicles at the same dealership.
Can you tell me / help me figure out why the better featured car with less number of miles is priced lesser?
Please!
2013 -- 34,670 miles for $43,695
This one has more features than the other one
MSRP is $82,310
https://www.autoipacket.com/packet-s...DF7CE8DA208672
Carfax 'looks' clean to me...
2014 -- 60,457 miles for $44,395
MSRP $77,660
https://www.autoipacket.com/packet-s...DF7CE9EA322889
I am looking at 2 different vehicles at the same dealership.
Can you tell me / help me figure out why the better featured car with less number of miles is priced lesser?
Please!
2013 -- 34,670 miles for $43,695
This one has more features than the other one
MSRP is $82,310
https://www.autoipacket.com/packet-s...DF7CE8DA208672
Carfax 'looks' clean to me...
2014 -- 60,457 miles for $44,395
MSRP $77,660
https://www.autoipacket.com/packet-s...DF7CE9EA322889
In fact the 2013 has longer warranty coz the in service date is Jan 2014 vs Oct 2013 for the 2014.
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Definitely the 2013 is much better deal. Price difference is due to the year difference. 2014 vs 2013. Has all the necessary packages in addition to distronic plus and active lane keeping assist. Only thing missing is the leather seats and active drive (active drive is quite rare and hard to find).
In fact the 2013 has longer warranty coz the in service date is Jan 2014 vs Oct 2013 for the 2014.
In fact the 2013 has longer warranty coz the in service date is Jan 2014 vs Oct 2013 for the 2014.
Do you think people weigh 2013 vs 2014 that much..especially when you don't have a major upgrade in 2014?
Also, when I look again and again and again...I noticed that the Carfax report on the 2013 has its 1st report on 01/03/2014 -- Vehicle offered for sale and mileage = 7,939 mi
How can that happen?
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The 2014 has too many miles to be a CPO. Why even look at it?
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I want to go test drive it but its a 1000 miles away...would like to find out whats wrong with that...if not, I am happy to go and get it
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I bought a BMW just like this. It was a CPO with 32k miles. Negotiated over the phone, bought a one way flight to Tampa, FL and drove it home. The car was in perfect condition.
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How do you like this one?
http://www.keyesmercedes.com/invento...ss-Van-Nuys-CA
2013 GL550
31k miles for $53k
Cinnabar Red
Auburn Burn w/Satin Ash trim
Parking Assist Package
Active Curve System
Night View Assist
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Heated Rear Seats
Driver Assistance Package
MSRP 105k
It has pretty much every feature that a GL550 offers...
The only thing I did not like is the color combination
UPDATE:
Just got the VMI from the dealer...
There were no accidents reported but lots of things replaced (even the air bags)...Please take a look and let me know if there is anything alarming about it
http://www.keyesmercedes.com/invento...ss-Van-Nuys-CA
2013 GL550
31k miles for $53k
Cinnabar Red
Auburn Burn w/Satin Ash trim
Parking Assist Package
Active Curve System
Night View Assist
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Heated Rear Seats
Driver Assistance Package
MSRP 105k
It has pretty much every feature that a GL550 offers...
The only thing I did not like is the color combination
UPDATE:
Just got the VMI from the dealer...
There were no accidents reported but lots of things replaced (even the air bags)...Please take a look and let me know if there is anything alarming about it
Last edited by vroooom; 01-27-2017 at 10:39 PM. Reason: Attached VMI
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I would totally buy this. Exterior color is not my fav but at least you will stand out in the crowd of the usual silver, white or black exterior color which is about all the GL/GLS around me are.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
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I would totally buy this. Exterior color is not my fav but at least you will stand out in the crowd of the usual silver, white or black exterior color which is about all the GL/GLS around me are.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
I have attached the VMI...Can you please take a look at it?
This deal is beginning to sound too good to be true now
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I understand you are getting familiar with Mercedes Certified Program - but you need to know not all Mercedes dealers have equal levels of integrity.
VMi shows - Check Status Mileage Discrepancy - and that comment is a exception that you would not normally see on 95% of any MB's on the road. Consider that your 1st flag.
VMI shows the "extensive" miscellaneous shop repair work - I have never seen driver's GL 2nd gen airbag replacement under warranty + such misc door locks + window switches - that's not normal - call that 2nd/3rd flag.
https://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/...reatedate-desc
I would run away.. not walk, not talk, run....
VMi shows - Check Status Mileage Discrepancy - and that comment is a exception that you would not normally see on 95% of any MB's on the road. Consider that your 1st flag.
VMI shows the "extensive" miscellaneous shop repair work - I have never seen driver's GL 2nd gen airbag replacement under warranty + such misc door locks + window switches - that's not normal - call that 2nd/3rd flag.
https://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/...reatedate-desc
I would run away.. not walk, not talk, run....
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I understand you are getting familiar with Mercedes Certified Program - but you need to know not all Mercedes dealers have equal levels of integrity.
VMi shows - Check Status Mileage Discrepancy - and that comment is a exception that you would not normally see on 95% of any MB's on the road. Consider that your 1st flag.
VMI shows the "extensive" miscellaneous shop repair work - I have never seen driver's GL 2nd gen airbag replacement under warranty + such misc door locks + window switches - that's not normal - call that 2nd/3rd flag.
https://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/...reatedate-desc
I would run away.. not walk, not talk, run....
VMi shows - Check Status Mileage Discrepancy - and that comment is a exception that you would not normally see on 95% of any MB's on the road. Consider that your 1st flag.
VMI shows the "extensive" miscellaneous shop repair work - I have never seen driver's GL 2nd gen airbag replacement under warranty + such misc door locks + window switches - that's not normal - call that 2nd/3rd flag.
https://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/...reatedate-desc
I would run away.. not walk, not talk, run....
Wow..Thanks for that!
When I talked to them, they told me that the air bags were replaced because of a recall
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Let me suggest - your "choice pool" widens/deepens quite a bit - if you drop focus on Rear-Entertainment.
My opinion - your a Wisconsin guy - and there is no reason to reach out to Los Angeles for this particular rig - sure - interesting color combo is nice - even with that the price isn't "great" - and it's all a bit messy on this one - don't you think ?
Sure - you've caught the GL "virus" - and that's exciting - but in the end you want something clean and solid !
My opinion - your a Wisconsin guy - and there is no reason to reach out to Los Angeles for this particular rig - sure - interesting color combo is nice - even with that the price isn't "great" - and it's all a bit messy on this one - don't you think ?
Sure - you've caught the GL "virus" - and that's exciting - but in the end you want something clean and solid !
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Let me suggest - your "choice pool" widens/deepens quite a bit - if you drop focus on Rear-Entertainment.
My opinion - your a Wisconsin guy - and there is no reason to reach out to Los Angeles for this particular rig - sure - interesting color combo is nice - even with that the price isn't "great" - and it's all a bit messy on this one - don't you think ?
Sure - you've caught the GL "virus" - and that's exciting - but in the end you want something clean and solid !
My opinion - your a Wisconsin guy - and there is no reason to reach out to Los Angeles for this particular rig - sure - interesting color combo is nice - even with that the price isn't "great" - and it's all a bit messy on this one - don't you think ?
Sure - you've caught the GL "virus" - and that's exciting - but in the end you want something clean and solid !
YES, I have got the GL bug, and now after going through all the details, I guess I am getting onto the 550 bug
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Can you please check the following listing?
Its a 2013 GL550 with 49.5k miles for $49.5k
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/cpo/i...DF7DE2DA224655
MSRP 112k
Carfax report
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...DF7DE2DA224655
It has...
AMG styling
Parking assist package
designo Black Piano Lacquer Wood Trim
designo Wood/Leather Steering Wheel
designo Porcelain Leather Upholstery
Rear sunshades
Panorama roof
ACTIVE CURVE SYSTEM
Night view assist PLUS
Bang & Olufsen sound system
Power easy entry
Rear seat entertainment
Driver assistance package
It doesn't have...
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
It has pretty much everything I want...and more
The only thing I want to make sure is...the carfax does not have regular maintenance listed but the dealer says that the 30k and 40k were done on time and they did the 50k recently before listing this..
I have asked for the VMI and he said he cannot download it..so he cannot send it
Is that something that I should suspect?
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Can you PLEASE pull the VMI, if you can?
Its a 2013 GL550 with 49.5k miles for $49.5k
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/cpo/i...DF7DE2DA224655
MSRP 112k
Carfax report
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...DF7DE2DA224655
It has...
AMG styling
Parking assist package
designo Black Piano Lacquer Wood Trim
designo Wood/Leather Steering Wheel
designo Porcelain Leather Upholstery
Rear sunshades
Panorama roof
ACTIVE CURVE SYSTEM
Night view assist PLUS
Bang & Olufsen sound system
Power easy entry
Rear seat entertainment
Driver assistance package
It doesn't have...
Heated steering wheel
Heated rear seats
It has pretty much everything I want...and more
The only thing I want to make sure is...the carfax does not have regular maintenance listed but the dealer says that the 30k and 40k were done on time and they did the 50k recently before listing this..
I have asked for the VMI and he said he cannot download it..so he cannot send it
Is that something that I should suspect?
@fabbrisd1
Can you PLEASE pull the VMI, if you can?
Last edited by vroooom; 01-28-2017 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Attaching MSRP
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The other option....which is at a drivable distance
2014 GL550 with 56.5k miles for $53k
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/cpo/i...DF7DE9EA328044
MSRP $96745
GL550 $88,600
792 Palladium Silver Metallic
201 Black Leather
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,090
443 Heated Steering Wheel $250
550 Trailer Hitch $575
729 Anthracite Poplar Wood Trim $160
843 Power EASY-ENTRY $400
864 Rear Seat Entertainment System $1,950
872 Heated Rear Seats $620
980 980 Accessory Chrome Package: Chrome Door Handle Inserts, Chrome Hoo $225
133 : Hood Fin Covers
070 : Chrome Door Handle Inserts
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC PLUS® with PRE-SAFE® Brake $1,950
238 : Active Lane Keeping Assist
237 : Active Blind Spot Assist
233 : DISTRONIC PLUS (with PRE-SAFE BRAKE)
23P : Driver Assistance Package
SUBTOTAL $95,820
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $96,745
2014 GL550 with 56.5k miles for $53k
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/cpo/i...DF7DE9EA328044
MSRP $96745
GL550 $88,600
792 Palladium Silver Metallic
201 Black Leather
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,090
443 Heated Steering Wheel $250
550 Trailer Hitch $575
729 Anthracite Poplar Wood Trim $160
843 Power EASY-ENTRY $400
864 Rear Seat Entertainment System $1,950
872 Heated Rear Seats $620
980 980 Accessory Chrome Package: Chrome Door Handle Inserts, Chrome Hoo $225
133 : Hood Fin Covers
070 : Chrome Door Handle Inserts
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC PLUS® with PRE-SAFE® Brake $1,950
238 : Active Lane Keeping Assist
237 : Active Blind Spot Assist
233 : DISTRONIC PLUS (with PRE-SAFE BRAKE)
23P : Driver Assistance Package
SUBTOTAL $95,820
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $96,745
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I would totally buy this. Exterior color is not my fav but at least you will stand out in the crowd of the usual silver, white or black exterior color which is about all the GL/GLS around me are.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
Vehicle has been sitting there for 2 months. I'm sure the price is reflecting that as well. 3 dealers around me want $58-60k just for a 2014 GL450 forcing me to drive 1.5 hrs away to get a decent deal. Last Aug when I was looking, the best deal I found for a 2013 GL550 was $55k and that was 4 hrs drive away.
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When vehcile is past 4yr/50K mile new car warranty - CPO can be issued which will be 1yr/unlimited mileage warranty - extendable up to another 2yrs at additional cost.
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The VMI shows there are a lot of things that were replaced, inc airbags...to which the dealer responded that it was recalled along with many other similar vehicles...
I tried to pull the recall information on that VIN and found out there were no recalls
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My mistake. It must be another manuf then that a certified vehicle must be still within the warranty period. I found a reference to MB CPO and it says vehicle must be 6 years / 75k miles or under to qualify. So I guess this 2013 example with the 56k miles will definitely qualify.
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Need your thoughts about the below CPO vehicles...Please
1. 2013 GL550 with 48.4k miles - Asking price $47,900 (reduced from $50K)
In the market since Dec 2016.
MSRP $96.6K
Iridium Silver & Gray Leather
Options...
Active Curve System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Park Assist Pkg
Driver Assistance Pkg
Trailer Hitch
Heated Rear Seats
PFA the VMI
Warranty start date - 7/19/2013 (no big deal as only 1600 miles left for the warranty to void)
2. 2014 GL550 with 49.4K miles - Asking price $56,750 (increased from $56K)
Recently listed...a couple of weeks back
MSRP $101.5K
Palladium Silver & Auburn Brown/Black Leather
Options...
Active Curve System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Park Assist Pkg
Driver Assistance Pkg
Trailer Hitch
Heated Rear Seats
Manual 2nd row sunshades
Panorama Roof (but only for the 2nd row)
On/Off-Road Package
Heated Washer System
PFA the VMI and recent service details
Warranty start date - 10/8/13 (no big deal as only 600 miles left for the warranty to void)
*Cannot test drive as they are 850 and 1100 miles away
Vehicle 2 scores in terms of additional options and I like its colors better than Vehicle 1.
The difference in $$$ seems to be considerable enough as well
Please take a look at the VMI to see if there is anything to worry about.
Thank you for your thoughts!
1. 2013 GL550 with 48.4k miles - Asking price $47,900 (reduced from $50K)
In the market since Dec 2016.
MSRP $96.6K
Iridium Silver & Gray Leather
Options...
Active Curve System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Park Assist Pkg
Driver Assistance Pkg
Trailer Hitch
Heated Rear Seats
PFA the VMI
Warranty start date - 7/19/2013 (no big deal as only 1600 miles left for the warranty to void)
2. 2014 GL550 with 49.4K miles - Asking price $56,750 (increased from $56K)
Recently listed...a couple of weeks back
MSRP $101.5K
Palladium Silver & Auburn Brown/Black Leather
Options...
Active Curve System
Rear Seat Entertainment
Park Assist Pkg
Driver Assistance Pkg
Trailer Hitch
Heated Rear Seats
Manual 2nd row sunshades
Panorama Roof (but only for the 2nd row)
On/Off-Road Package
Heated Washer System
PFA the VMI and recent service details
Warranty start date - 10/8/13 (no big deal as only 600 miles left for the warranty to void)
*Cannot test drive as they are 850 and 1100 miles away
Vehicle 2 scores in terms of additional options and I like its colors better than Vehicle 1.
The difference in $$$ seems to be considerable enough as well
Please take a look at the VMI to see if there is anything to worry about.
Thank you for your thoughts!
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I vote (2) for the 550. That setup is quite close to mine including price and miles. However, I think there is room to negotiate it down to 55K. 56K is the absolute most I will pay for it if it has everything you want. Finding one with exactly what you want is indeed quite difficult.
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I vote (2) for the 550. That setup is quite close to mine including price and miles. However, I think there is room to negotiate it down to 55K. 56K is the absolute most I will pay for it if it has everything you want. Finding one with exactly what you want is indeed quite difficult.
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Sorry...just noticed that I forgot the attachments...
Vehicle 2 does not have many details on the VMI...is that something that I should worry?
Thanks again!
Vehicle 2 does not have many details on the VMI...is that something that I should worry?
Thanks again!