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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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I would think an attorney could do well with a class-action suit on this one. I am still looking for an attorney in Chicagoland that will assist me.
Took my GLC in today. There is a fix for this per my SA. There is no reason for a Class action suit.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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Took my GLC in today. There is a fix for this per my SA. There is no reason for a Class action suit.
What is the date of the LI (service bulletin)?

My dealer complied with the revised LI dated Dec. 22nd on January 2nd and they replaced the pads. Our brakes squealed the very next time we backed out of the garage, the very same day we got the car back.

My dealer just contacted MB USA and was told last week that there was no updated ETA for when they got parts from Germany.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 01:44 PM
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Had my GLC since Nov. with 3,500 and it just started to make noise. Going try take it to my local dealer and see what happens.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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New to this forum, in Georgetown, Texas. Driving a 12-year-old Volvo V70 with 208,000 trouble-free miles, and about to replace with a GLC 300 as a step up (and because the newer Volvos don't seem to have as good of a service record).

The simple, but difficult, question is, should I?

How prevalent is this Brake Screeching issue? Does anyone know?
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by V70
New to this forum, in Georgetown, Texas. Driving a 12-year-old Volvo V70 with 208,000 trouble-free miles, and about to replace with a GLC 300 as a step up (and because the newer Volvos don't seem to have as good of a service record).

The simple, but difficult, question is, should I?

How prevalent is this Brake Screeching issue? Does anyone know?
Seems like many are reporting it but not at first - after a few thousand miles. I'm in the process of having my front pads replaced with ceramic at my expense rather than wait for a fix. Corporate MB reps say that no fix is available yet but others have reported having their pads replaced - time will tell on how they have made out since many of us report that at first they were quiet. I love the car otherwise. Had an Audi Q5 before and a BMW X3 before that. Rides nice and wants to "go" on the highway. For me the brake noise is more of a nuisance than anything else.

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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 05:16 PM
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How prevalent is this Brake Screeching issue? Does anyone know?
It started ~ 3000 miles. At the moment it is more nuisance than a problem (I am in queue for the fix, whenever it may become available). Other than this, we love the SUV. Much more refined and comfortable than my Lexus RX 300/330/350s.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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..., we love the SUV. Much more refined and comfortable than my Lexus RX 300/330/350s.
I guess we have a difference of opinion, then - I find the 2017 GLC 300 4MATIC less refined, less quiet, and less comfortable than my former 2010 Lexus RX 350.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by V70
New to this forum, in Georgetown, Texas. Driving a 12-year-old Volvo V70 with 208,000 trouble-free miles, and about to replace with a GLC 300 as a step up (and because the newer Volvos don't seem to have as good of a service record).

The simple, but difficult, question is, should I?

How prevalent is this Brake Screeching issue? Does anyone know?
Nobody seems to know how prevalent. However, every dealer service department has heard of it, every dealer has a list of owners who are waiting for a fix (some waiting for months), and there has been two bulletins on this from MB and neither of them fixed the problem.

I would strongly urge you to hold off until this known problem is remedied for good.

Put another way, I've purchased 6 brand new cars and have never needed to contact an attorney before.

No car is perfect, and all cars will have issues that spring up from time to time. But this issue is known by the manufacturer and they cannot seem to remedy it.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:02 PM
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Interesting, I have to say I agree with the spooky! Mine was 2012 rx350. To me, GLC is more quiet, and sporty, and you don't have to worry about rollover when cornering, like I'd did with Rx.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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I haven't owned an RX350. It felt too large for me, leaned more than I liked, and wasn't quick. I thought it had a great interior and technology. I have been spoiled by the '06 V70, which even with its light-pressure turbo would jump and get out of the way or pass whenever I asked.
The GLC feels more solid, quicker, with less roll and bounce, and more quality. European feel, more like my previous 328i Sportwagen.

I did have a nightmare car once: a new '99 SAAB 9-6. She was beautiful. Fast, smooth, quiet, handled well. It blew three ECUs in the first year, went through many airbag sensors and headlights, need two batteries (can you say voltage regulation problem?), had to be towed five times, and then needed all pads AND rotors replaced at my expense after less than 20K miles. SAAB somehow managed to beat the lemon laws on it through technicalities.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by V70
New to this forum, in Georgetown, Texas. Driving a 12-year-old Volvo V70 with 208,000 trouble-free miles, and about to replace with a GLC 300 as a step up (and because the newer Volvos don't seem to have as good of a service record).

The simple, but difficult, question is, should I?

How prevalent is this Brake Screeching issue? Does anyone know?
We switched from an '04 V70 with similar mileage to the 2017 GLC. Trust me, you won't miss the V70. More or everything with the GLC, but you'd expect that in car that is 12+ years newer.

Brakes have squealed a couple of times but it is an annoyance at this stage. I fully expect MB to come up with a solution and I'm willing to give them a chance. Don't let the churn on a forum thread like prevent you from at least looking hard at the GLC. I love this car.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 09:00 PM
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I notice mine only makes the sound early in morning when I leave for work. If I use the car after hour or so after I drove it, it won't make the noise.
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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Took my wife's GLC in yesterday for the Recalibrate COMMAND campaign. Told them about the squealing brake problem in reverse. The SA said the new compound brake pads were on back order, but should arrive in a couple of weeks.

On the invoice it also said the following:
FOUND NEW COMPOUND BRAKE PADS LI42.10-R-065628 FRONT AND LI42.10-P-P065058 REAR

ORDERED NEW UPDATED COMPOUND FRONT AND REAR BRAKE PADS BUT ARE ON BACK ORDER AT THIS TIME. WILL CALL CUSTOMER WHEN THEY ARRIVE.
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:15 PM
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Took mine in. Dealer has ordered new brake pads. They are currently on back order.
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Took my wife's GLC in yesterday for the Recalibrate COMMAND campaign. Told them about the squealing brake problem in reverse. The SA said the new compound brake pads were on back order, but should arrive in a couple of weeks.

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Maybe this warrants a new thread, but what is the Recalibrate COMAND campaign???
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Maybe this warrants a new thread, but what is the Recalibrate COMAND campaign???
I also would like to know what this is.
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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Seems like many are reporting it but not at first - after a few thousand miles. I'm in the process of having my front pads replaced with ceramic at my expense rather than wait for a fix. Corporate MB reps say that no fix is available yet but others have reported having their pads replaced - time will tell on how they have made out since many of us report that at first they were quiet. I love the car otherwise. Had an Audi Q5 before and a BMW X3 before that. Rides nice and wants to "go" on the highway. For me the brake noise is more of a nuisance than anything else.

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Out of curiosity what are the details on the ceramic pads? I've gone this route on several Vettes due to squeaking or very high dust brakes.
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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The SA seemed certain that the new compound brake pads ordered would arrive within a couple of weeks.

The recalibrate COMAND campaign: Open campaign to Check AUDIO/COMAND Control Panel Calibration.

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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Out of curiosity what are the details on the ceramic pads? I've gone this route on several Vettes due to squeaking or very high dust brakes.
I have a neighbor who was a former master MB tech - he recommended them for me and thats what he puts on his vehicles (german also). On order and he will install - I am having this done as my choice rather than wait for a "fix". Other than that I don't really know how they compare.

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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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For the record, my dealer's Service Mgr has been on this for 2 months. The LI for the rear brakes is the same number as last December with no change and no parts. The front brake LI is a different number with the same procedure and also no parts. They contacted MB yesterday and were told "no eta on parts".

So, essentially not much has changed. If your dealer is quoting time estimates for parts, they are not being truthful in my opinion. They are being hopeful. Having followed this for 4 months I have noticed some dealers will say "no eta, waiting for parts" and others will say "by the end of the month" or "within a couple of weeks". I believe the dealers saying "no eta" are the honest ones.

The only thing that resolves this is to contact an attorney and force MB to buy your car back. I'm not in love with any car to where I would keep it with a known issue.

Simply stated, MB has kept selling a model with a known defect: cold brakes start squealing loudly with between 2,000 and 8,000 miles on vehicle when reversing at slow speed.
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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It seems mine only makes loud noise when I don't drive car for few days.
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:34 PM
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Let me try to clarify the reality as of this moment:

1) MB has issued new part#'s for both the front and rear pads

a) on the new/new front pads it is the same part# as the new pads on technical bulletin in December - but the "new/new" front pads have a different 2-digit suffix. In the Mercedes system the "new" pads show in delaer inventory - about 575 sets across the US - but these are the new pads/Dec bulletin - which do not correct the problem - and not the new/new pads

b) on the new rear pads - there are a different part# than the original pads - there are "some" new rear brake pads in dealer inventory - although it is not yet confirmed that the "new" rears will solve the problem on the rear - or if MB will need to go new/new like the front pad scenario

On the fronts - Mercedes has to changeover to a different brake pad vendor and a different front brake pad compound to solve the front problem.

On the rear - Mercedes has to confirm that the "new" rear from existing supplier will help rears - or if they need to changeover to new/new.

At this moment - frankly - this will require much more patience to wait for the correct/confirmed MB solution.

Now - if it was me - yes, might consider Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramic - or their Semi-Metallic front pads to see if this solves the issue.

I will work to arrange test fitting on a customers car in the next week or so - and see what might happen..

Keep the beat !
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:26 AM
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a) on the new/new front pads it is the same part# as the new pads on technical bulletin in December - but the "new/new" front pads have a different 2-digit suffix.
Keep the beat !
000-420-83-00-28, Is this part# for new/new

000-420-81-00-64, And What is this?

This is what they ordered (on back order) as a FIX!
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSpooky
000-420-83-00-28, Is this part# for new/new

000-420-81-00-64, And What is this?

This is what they ordered (on back order) as a FIX!
MB will wait just long enough until the weather warms up and all the techs can say, "Sorry, can't duplicate the problem." Voila, MB warranty expense postponed for another year!

I've had this problem for 3 seasons now (on my C300), reported it each year, various fixes were tried, but no solution. It's maddening, and quite stunning that, in all this time, MB can't make brakes that don't squeal like a stuck pig.
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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Let me try to clarify the reality as of this moment:

1) MB has issued new part#'s for both the front and rear pads

a) on the new/new front pads it is the same part# as the new pads on technical bulletin in December - but the "new/new" front pads have a different 2-digit suffix. In the Mercedes system the "new" pads show in delaer inventory - about 575 sets across the US - but these are the new pads/Dec bulletin - which do not correct the problem - and not the new/new pads

b) on the new rear pads - there are a different part# than the original pads - there are "some" new rear brake pads in dealer inventory - although it is not yet confirmed that the "new" rears will solve the problem on the rear - or if MB will need to go new/new like the front pad scenario

On the fronts - Mercedes has to changeover to a different brake pad vendor and a different front brake pad compound to solve the front problem.

On the rear - Mercedes has to confirm that the "new" rear from existing supplier will help rears - or if they need to changeover to new/new.

At this moment - frankly - this will require much more patience to wait for the correct/confirmed MB solution.

Now - if it was me - yes, might consider Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramic - or their Semi-Metallic front pads to see if this solves the issue.

I will work to arrange test fitting on a customers car in the next week or so - and see what might happen..

Keep the beat !
This is quite informative. Would you happen to know if the fix and part numbers are the same for the C300?
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