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lei 05-24-2016 12:32 PM

First oil change, when ?
 
10K ?

Plutoe 05-24-2016 05:41 PM

What does your manual indicate??

fabbrisd1 05-24-2016 06:57 PM

To be helpful
 
Let me apologize for Plutoe's rudeness - and frankly I don't think he has ever driven a new GLC.

"Recommended" factory service for your GLC - every 10K miles or 1yr - whichever comes 1st.

Your 1st/10K service is termed "A" service - and the 2nd/20K service is termed B service.

I have attached a link below which you can use to download the Maintenance Manual for your GLC which will give you more specific on the recommended service.

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/servi...2016&class=GLC SUV&engine=undefined

Please note dealers are allowed to set their own prices for service - so if you have more than one dealer in your area - when service becomes due it can save you a bit to call and ask/quote.

Going into your 2nd/20K service - if you are planning to keep your GLC past 40K miles - before your 20K service - before checkin - you can save a bit by asking those dealers to quote you "3yrs Prepaid Maintenance" which will cover you 20K/30K/40K and save you a bit more.

Enjoy your new MB - keep the beat !

07SGT 05-24-2016 10:11 PM

Yes it is 1 year or 10,000 miles whichever comes first. Some, especially if they plan on keeping the vehicle long term, will have an oil change at about 1,500-2,000 miles and then again at 10,000.

BerndV 05-24-2016 11:08 PM

I always do my first one at around 2500 miles, then 5k, then every 5k. However, I do them myself. This makes it very inexpensive and convenient compared to having it done at a dealership.

fabbrisd1 05-25-2016 02:11 AM

Frankly - positively, absolutely no reason to change before 10K - actually the factory has added specific oil additives at the factory to assist in proper breakin over the initial 10K.

Some owners - old school - fell better about themselves and their MB by doing oil changes early - if that "feels good" - no worries.

Frankly - a different investment for long term MB owners to consider - for both improved fuel economy and reduced wear - replace AIR FILTER more often.

Keep the beat !

Penn 05-25-2016 09:00 AM

Assyst Plus will adapt the service interval dependant on the way the car has been driven unless 12 months comes up first. There is a display menu option which tells you when the next service is due.

BobinIL 05-25-2016 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by fabbrisd1 (Post 6812536)
Let me apologize for Plutoe's rudeness - and frankly I don't think he has ever driven a new GLC.

"Recommended" factory service for your GLC - every 10K miles or 1yr - whichever comes 1st.

Your 1st/10K service is termed "A" service - and the 2nd/20K service is termed B service.

I have attached a link below which you can use to download the Maintenance Manual for your GLC which will give you more specific on the recommended service.

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/servi...2016&class=GLC SUV&engine=undefined

Please note dealers are allowed to set their own prices for service - so if you have more than one dealer in your area - when service becomes due it can save you a bit to call and ask/quote.

Going into your 2nd/20K service - if you are planning to keep your GLC past 40K miles - before your 20K service - before checkin - you can save a bit by asking those dealers to quote you "3yrs Prepaid Maintenance" which will cover you 20K/30K/40K and save you a bit more.

Enjoy your new MB - keep the beat !

It is a good reminder though, for new owners to be aware of all the information and learning to be found in the owners manual. Cars are complicated these days and the OM is a great reference tool.

lei 05-25-2016 10:55 AM

Sorry for not being clearer
 
I do have the manual that stated 1yr/10k for the first service.

The reason that the questions was raised is due to conflict opinions.

1. Use the recommended schedule, for special additives ?

2. Sooner change after the first couple of thousand miles, to get rid of the break-in residuals.

There must be a better one among the two, but which one ? assuming that we can change by ourselves at low cost.

Thanks.

BerndV 05-25-2016 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by fabbrisd1 (Post 6812852)
the factory has added specific oil additives at the factory to assist in proper breakin over the initial 10K


Could you cite your source for this information? I am highly dubious of this claim.

07SGT 05-25-2016 02:21 PM

Concur, the engine is filled with Mobil One when coming to the US. There are no special additives and MB recommends against special additives.

lei 05-27-2016 09:20 AM

So, should we change oil early ? such as 5000. I have 3500 already.

larrypmyers 05-27-2016 11:12 AM

As posted earlier, follow the guidance contained in the manual. One year or 10,000 miles, whichever comes first.

If changing oil early gives you a warm fuzzy, then do so. In reality doing so does nothing for your engine but will lighten your wallet.

BobinIL 05-27-2016 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by larrypmyers (Post 6815292)
As posted earlier, follow the guidance contained in the manual. One year or 10,000 miles, whichever comes first.

If changing oil early gives you a warm fuzzy, then do so. In reality doing so does nothing for your engine but will lighten your wallet.

Both points are good advice.

07SGT 05-27-2016 11:41 AM

If I wanted to make the engine last longer I would change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles and the air filter every 10,000 miles and use only the best gas, i.e.; Shell 93. If it was a lease car and I did not intend to purchase at the end of the lease I would follow the owner's manual.

changing the oil more often will keep not only a cleaner engine with less wear but will also lessen the deposits on the valves which can be an issue with DI

lei 05-27-2016 12:03 PM

Great. Thanks all.

ArcticWhiteZ51 01-18-2017 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Penn
Assyst Plus will adapt the service interval dependant on the way the car has been driven unless 12 months comes up first. There is a display menu option which tells you when the next service is due.

I'm a DIY'er and new to MB. So on our other cars there is a specific monitor for oil life that shows % life used. Per your comment does ASSYST ever show anything about oil life specifically? To put another way, for example, if your driving style or conditions requires sooner than 10K or 1yr, will it tell you (specifically) that oil change is due?

Axel B 01-19-2017 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by fabbrisd1 (Post 6812852)
Frankly - positively, absolutely no reason to change before 10K - actually the factory has added specific oil additives at the factory to assist in proper breakin over the initial 10K.

Some owners - old school - fell better about themselves and their MB by doing oil changes early - if that "feels good" - no worries.

Frankly - a different investment for long term MB owners to consider - for both improved fuel economy and reduced wear - replace AIR FILTER more often.

Keep the beat !

I don't agree with you on this one, don't think there is any "special chemistry" and based on years of building and racing high performance cars/motorcycles....I plan on changing oil/filter out at 1000-1500 miles and 5K miles on my GLC43. Even with the best modern machining techniques there are still parts wearing in and mating to one another on any newly assembled motor.

fabbrisd1 01-20-2017 12:58 AM

Whatever floats your boat - oh, just do you know - there is a break-in oil formulation specific to each production MB engine/model - actually the true MB engineering spec for oil change from late '90's was engineered to 12.5K in mid-2000's - and since 2014 all models has been engineered to go out to 15K oil change - but since old-ster's here in the US won't even believe 10K - Mercedes has kept the 10K consumer spec ... oh, when was the last time a enthusiast bench ran a motor to 500K miles - in environmental from -30F to 160F - I think Mercedes has a little bit more extensive experience than holdovers from 60's Fords/Chevy's...

Mr. J 01-20-2017 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by Axel B (Post 7029337)
I don't agree with you on this one, don't think there is any "special chemistry" and based on years of building and racing high performance cars/motorcycles....I plan on changing oil/filter out at 1000-1500 miles and 5K miles on my GLC43. Even with the best modern machining techniques there are still parts wearing in and mating to one another on any newly assembled motor.

It's not uncommon for manufacturers to add Moly to the break in oil. A Merc engineer confirmed this over on the w205 forum. Also they debate this to death over on https://bobistheoilguy.com/.

I doubt that it is going to hurt anything if you change it early. I also doubt that anything will be harmed by waiting for the full 10k interval. I intend to split the difference and change it at 5k and then perform the regularly scheduled service A at 10k.

ArcticWhiteZ51 01-20-2017 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. J (Post 7030437)
It's not uncommon for manufacturers to add Moly to the break in oil. A Merc engineer confirmed this over on the w205 forum. Also they debate this to death over on https://bobistheoilguy.com/.

I doubt that it is going to hurt anything if you change it early. I also doubt that anything will be harmed by waiting for the full 10k interval. I intend to split the difference and change it at 5k and then perform the regularly scheduled service A at 10k.

Forgive the newbie questions as I'm new to MB. I'm still trying to figure out how the ASSYST system works. I understand the Service A 10K part but is there a separate oil monitor (like in my other cars that I simply reset when I change the oil). If you change oil "early" doesn't' the ASSYST system loose track of the oil "life". In this case do you then just ignore any "change oil" messages if one were to come up before the Service A? If that is true does it store anything in the computer that could be a warranty issue?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

GLC220Exclusive 01-20-2017 04:11 PM




Just keep it simple and follow the owners manual....:zoom:

Mr. J 01-20-2017 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteZ51 (Post 7030953)
Forgive the newbie questions as I'm new to MB. I'm still trying to figure out how the ASSYST system works. I understand the Service A 10K part but is there a separate oil monitor (like in my other cars that I simply reset when I change the oil). If you change oil "early" doesn't' the ASSYST system loose track of the oil "life". In this case do you then just ignore any "change oil" messages if one were to come up before the Service A? If that is true does it store anything in the computer that could be a warranty issue?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Just google how to reset the oil life monitor. Info is probably in the manual too.

URBassman 01-21-2017 08:04 AM

My service is paid for by a monthly plan. It now costs more to service my AGA than my GLC.

Philamg 01-21-2017 09:57 AM

Service plan in UK still expensive on Mercs, £35 per month on GLC equates to £420 for a service.

On discovery sport I have 5 year service plan (12 monthly service) for £500, the new discovery sports are every 2 years but you still get 2 services for £500, I think BMW is similar.


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