GLC63 Tune Soon
#26
Tuning newb here.
Have a '18 GLC63, if I were to get the K-box can it be mapped to one of the driving modes or is it "always on". I live in NYC (duh) so most of the time this car is doing 0 to 40 albeit quickly. But would love to be able to select more power for open roads. Mileage is so bad in city driving I wouldn't want it all the time.
Thanks for info.
Have a '18 GLC63, if I were to get the K-box can it be mapped to one of the driving modes or is it "always on". I live in NYC (duh) so most of the time this car is doing 0 to 40 albeit quickly. But would love to be able to select more power for open roads. Mileage is so bad in city driving I wouldn't want it all the time.
Thanks for info.
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I’m surprised I’m not seeing more about performance upgrades on this forum. I’m at 300 miles on my 2019 GLC63 AMG-S Coupe. I plan to use the Kleemann K-Box after break-in. The K-Box is plug & play and it’s a 600 HP/TQ tune! Very happy with Kleemann in the past. I’ll post an update when done.
Most tunes (atleast from Eurocharged and AMR) now are loadable via OBDII MyGenius Handhelds. Just buy the OBDII tune from them with the handheld, and you can go back to stock any time you want.
#29
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I’ll agree with him. Get a tune and feel the real. Piggyback isn’t the same. I’ve been on the forefront of the GLC platform. Grab a DME tune and enjoy the car.
#30
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As a guy who has done a lot of different piggy-back tunes....I say never get a piggy-back tune unless you want a jerky and potentially dangerous tune. Piggy-backs are more of a bandage to get you faster in a car that an ECU tune hasn't been released yet.
I say "potentially dangerous" only because they are so easy to "turn up". If you stay in lower Maps(1,2) they are almost fail proof(still not smooth) but guess what happens when you race the same car that has just beat you and you are going for another run? You turn it up.
I say "potentially dangerous" only because they are so easy to "turn up". If you stay in lower Maps(1,2) they are almost fail proof(still not smooth) but guess what happens when you race the same car that has just beat you and you are going for another run? You turn it up.
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OP, how bout some feedback on what you feel in your butt. What you sense without being able to prove it at this time? I'm curious. I drive a C63 and a 18 Macan Turbo. Lots of 'tunes' out there. Lot's of mixed results. However, I am very curious about Kleeman products.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#32
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OP, how bout some feedback on what you feel in your butt. What you sense without being able to prove it at this time? I'm curious. I drive a C63 and a 18 Macan Turbo. Lots of 'tunes' out there. Lot's of mixed results. However, I am very curious about Kleeman products.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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As a guy who has done a lot of different piggy-back tunes....I say never get a piggy-back tune unless you want a jerky and potentially dangerous tune. Piggy-backs are more of a bandage to get you faster in a car that an ECU tune hasn't been released yet.
I say "potentially dangerous" only because they are so easy to "turn up". If you stay in lower Maps(1,2) they are almost fail proof(still not smooth) but guess what happens when you race the same car that has just beat you and you are going for another run? You turn it up.
I say "potentially dangerous" only because they are so easy to "turn up". If you stay in lower Maps(1,2) they are almost fail proof(still not smooth) but guess what happens when you race the same car that has just beat you and you are going for another run? You turn it up.
Firstly not even many piggybacks let you adjust your own user maps.
Secondly, if you dial the boost too high, the car wont even give you that much boost. You can REQUEST to gave 7psi over stock but that doesn't mean you will ACHIEVE it.
If the boost you requested I.E. 7PSI fails, the car wont compensate you with less boost. It will just go back to stock boost.
Adjusting your own user maps on a piggyback is literally like overclocking a CPU but with safety's. You are increasing the boost little by little every 500rpms until you DISCOVER what is the maximum boost you can actually achieve based on your altitude humidity temperature and fuel.
You dont just request X amount of boost over stock and the car gives it to you until it blows up. On piggyback if the boost cannot be safely achieved, you would not even get the boost.
That's why people look at logs so see if they hit boost. The log shows timing and psi (requested and actual) and at what rpms.
Boost on a piggyback is either something you get or you dont. You dont request 7psi and if the car cant do it it thinks “I'll give him 6.5psi instead”. If the car cant do it you get 0psi over stock.
#35
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I dont know about dangerous.
Firstly not even many piggybacks let you adjust your own user maps.
Secondly, if you dial the boost too high, the car wont even give you that much boost. You can REQUEST to gave 7psi over stock but that doesn't mean you will ACHIEVE it.
If the boost you requested I.E. 7PSI fails, the car wont compensate you with less boost. It will just go back to stock boost.
Adjusting your own user maps on a piggyback is literally like overclocking a CPU but with safety's. You are increasing the boost little by little every 500rpms until you DISCOVER what is the maximum boost you can actually achieve based on your altitude humidity temperature and fuel.
You dont just request X amount of boost over stock and the car gives it to you until it blows up. On piggyback if the boost cannot be safely achieved, you would not even get the boost.
That's why people look at logs so see if they hit boost. The log shows timing and psi (requested and actual) and at what rpms.
Boost on a piggyback is either something you get or you dont. You dont request 7psi and if the car cant do it it thinks “I'll give him 6.5psi instead”. If the car cant do it you get 0psi over stock.
Firstly not even many piggybacks let you adjust your own user maps.
Secondly, if you dial the boost too high, the car wont even give you that much boost. You can REQUEST to gave 7psi over stock but that doesn't mean you will ACHIEVE it.
If the boost you requested I.E. 7PSI fails, the car wont compensate you with less boost. It will just go back to stock boost.
Adjusting your own user maps on a piggyback is literally like overclocking a CPU but with safety's. You are increasing the boost little by little every 500rpms until you DISCOVER what is the maximum boost you can actually achieve based on your altitude humidity temperature and fuel.
You dont just request X amount of boost over stock and the car gives it to you until it blows up. On piggyback if the boost cannot be safely achieved, you would not even get the boost.
That's why people look at logs so see if they hit boost. The log shows timing and psi (requested and actual) and at what rpms.
Boost on a piggyback is either something you get or you dont. You dont request 7psi and if the car cant do it it thinks “I'll give him 6.5psi instead”. If the car cant do it you get 0psi over stock.