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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I'm a bit annoyed that to get the 997 driver assist package you need command, thus no car play. Ugh.

I really want an S but I don't think I like the coupe as much as the SUV. Is the difference just a tune or are there mechanical differences?

I find the Selenite grey really intriguing. I was leaning towards white because I'll keep it in FL but the grey is interesting.

Quick Q about the 4matic. I think on the GLC43 the transfer case has a fixed front rear split. Is it varialbe on the 63 or fixed as well?

Hi, command online should have car play and android auto alredy in, same as bunch of other features (sim slot & wifi hotspot, hdd, ...) and it is also only way how to get signs asist!

diferences in S:
- composit brakes (probably just in front). Painted red
- Electronicaly controled diferential.
- (Now sorry for my english) the things, usualy rubber, which are used to mount engine to car frame so these has some electronic inside which can make them softer or harder (similarly to dynamic suspension) = less vibrations from engine
- Race mode (everything off).
- Slightly different steering whell (extra leather micro something).
- slighly different speedometers (more red)
- amg driver packed for free = max speed limited to 280kmh (and amg driver event)
- 20” wheels for free (stock 19” on nonS looks terible for me) and wider tyres
- red seat bels for free
- white strips on black leather (not sure you can get this in nonS, but luckily you can still choose fully black in S as I did)
- some extra mat silver external details

thats probably all.
(Just today I have changed my nonS order of 63 coupe to S version )
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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Toma, do you have a build date?
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Toma, do you have a build date?
I do and thats the only sad thing April!
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Toma Gregovsky
Hi, command online should have car play and android auto alredy in, same as bunch of other features (sim slot & wifi hotspot, hdd, ...) and it is also only way how to get signs asist!

diferences in S:
- composit brakes (probably just in front). Painted red
- Electronicaly controled diferential.
- (Now sorry for my english) the things, usualy rubber, which are used to mount engine to car frame so these has some electronic inside which can make them softer or harder (similarly to dynamic suspension) = less vibrations from engine
- Race mode (everything off).
- Slightly different steering whell (extra leather micro something).
- slighly different speedometers (more red)
- amg driver packed for free = max speed limited to 280kmh (and amg driver event)
- 20” wheels for free (stock 19” on nonS looks terible for me) and wider tyres
- red seat bels for free
- white strips on black leather (not sure you can get this in nonS, but luckily you can still choose fully black in S as I did)
- some extra mat silver external details

thats probably all.
(Just today I have changed my nonS order of 63 coupe to S version )
You forgot to mention the extra 34 hp
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 08:03 AM
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I should have been clearer. My real question was referring to the 34 hp and 30+ lb/ft of torque. Is that just a tuning or are there differences in the engine or turbo chargers? I’m really not a fan of the coupe but I’m a big fan of the extras in the S. I’m going to go look at a 43 coupe just to see how it looks. I know the 63 will be different but it should at least give me an idea.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I should have been clearer. My real question was referring to the 34 hp and 30+ lb/ft of torque. Is that just a tuning or are there differences in the engine or turbo chargers? I’m really not a fan of the coupe but I’m a big fan of the extras in the S. I’m going to go look at a 43 coupe just to see how it looks. I know the 63 will be different but it should at least give me an idea.
No the engine is the same. Just the factory tuning is different. However with the same power, the GLC63S should be faster because of the improved diff.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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I’m really torn, I want an S but i don’t know I how I feel about the coupe. I really don’t know what to do. The S definitely seems with the dough because if it weren’t for performance i wouldn’t even consider the GLC at this point.

Any US purchasers want to share what type of prices they are paying on their S coupes?
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I’m really torn, I want an S but i don’t know I how I feel about the coupe. I really don’t know what to do. The S definitely seems with the dough because if it weren’t for performance i wouldn’t even consider the GLC at this point.

Any US purchasers want to share what type of prices they are paying on their S coupes?
They are going to be typically $90-100k MSRP depending on options, plus a 4-10% discount depending on dealer.

Not all the options have been priced so it's hard to be more precise than that.

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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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I’m wondering if I should just get a GLE63. There’s one for 112k at my dealer that he’ll really discount. I could end up being within 10k of the GLC S coupe.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I’m wondering if I should just get a GLE63. There’s one for 112k at my dealer that he’ll really discount. I could end up being within 10k of the GLC S coupe.
Too heavy and on an old chassis. Won't be as fun to drive.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I’m really torn, I want an S but i don’t know I how I feel about the coupe. I really don’t know what to do. The S definitely seems with the dough because if it weren’t for performance i wouldn’t even consider the GLC at this point.

Any US purchasers want to share what type of prices they are paying on their S coupes?

Get the GLC63. If you decide later that you want more power, just add a tune and you'll have more power on tap than a stock 63s coupe.
I would never get carbon ceramic brakes for an SUV that will likely never see any track use. I doubt the S model has the same e-locker LSD as the sedans and true coupes since the GLC platform are AWD cars.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 10:46 AM
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I got dealer MSRP about 7k apart of W4 and S coupe with similar options. 87,xxx and 80,xxx with lots of options. Still torn and leaning toward s right now.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Toma Gregovsky
Hi, command online should have car play and android auto alredy in, same as bunch of other features (sim slot & wifi hotspot, hdd, ...) and it is also only way how to get signs asist!

diferences in S:
- composit brakes (probably just in front). Painted red
- Electronicaly controled diferential.
- (Now sorry for my english) the things, usualy rubber, which are used to mount engine to car frame so these has some electronic inside which can make them softer or harder (similarly to dynamic suspension) = less vibrations from engine
- Race mode (everything off).
- Slightly different steering whell (extra leather micro something).
- slighly different speedometers (more red)
- amg driver packed for free = max speed limited to 280kmh (and amg driver event)
- 20” wheels for free (stock 19” on nonS looks terible for me) and wider tyres
- red seat bels for free
- white strips on black leather (not sure you can get this in nonS, but luckily you can still choose fully black in S as I did)
- some extra mat silver external details

thats probably all.
(Just today I have changed my nonS order of 63 coupe to S version )
Can you elaborate on the Comand Online? I don't see it noted in any of the GLC43 or GLC63 Dealer Order Guide info here in the US. Is it standard with the Comand option? I'd love to think Apple CarPlay/Android Auto would be available through this Comand Online system in the US, but highly doubt it. I Google'd it, but not real helpful for anything GLC related. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 12:33 PM
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I was told no apple car play with command in the US.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I was told no apple car play with command in the US.
That is absolutely correct. Car Play is incompatible with the C/GLC 8.4" COMAND system. When they switch to the new E-class type of wide-screen COMAND system then CarPlay will be offered with COMAND.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 04:42 PM
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Another reason why I might walk away from my MY2018 63... a wait for the switch.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kauboy
Another reason why I might walk away from my MY2018 63... a wait for the switch.
The problem is that I heard that new update for the GLC will be MY2020 not 2019. So it’s a long wait for the new navigation.

Quite frankly I am tempted to go with a Porsche, but not sure if I can justify the extra $35k for the Cayenne Turbo.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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I was looking at a Macan Turbo. It’s not quite the fire breather the AMG is but it drove amazingly.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I was looking at a Macan Turbo. It’s not quite the fire breather the AMG is but it drove amazingly.
Have you driven the 43 Coupe? Can you speculate how the 63S Coupe will do on mountain roads in comparison to the Macan Turbo. With all this delay, I'm tempted by the Turbo.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks "z" and stealth, and I understand that, but the way Toma worded it (Comand ONLINE) made it sound like there was some online way to make ACP/AA work with a SIM connection...guess not. Not sure why this is so difficult for manufacturers to make this work and kinda lazy for MB to offer the Smartphone Integration withOUT Comand in a bread-and-butter segment vehicle like the GLC. Oh well...
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kauboy
Have you driven the 43 Coupe? Can you speculate how the 63S Coupe will do on mountain roads in comparison to the Macan Turbo. With all this delay, I'm tempted by the Turbo.
The Macan Turbo can easily be tuned to 470hp with a Cobb accessport.

Does anyone know the relative weight of the Macan Turbo and the GLC63S Coupe?
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Have you driven the 43 Coupe? Can you speculate how the 63S Coupe will do on mountain roads in comparison to the Macan Turbo. With all this delay, I'm tempted by the Turbo.
i drove 43 but don’t see that there as any comparison to the 63. The 43 is basically the v6 from the 450 series cars enhanced by AMG. The engine, trans, suspension and brakes are all different. For styling cues they are similar but that’s where it should end.

I look at at the Macan as very different as well. The Macan to me is more analogous to a sports car like a 911 suv. I look at the AMG cars as a modern take on muscle cars. Yes they handle and brake better but there about exhilarating speed. It’s a bit of a different mission. I also like the Merc styling and luxury much better than the Macan. However the turbo Porsche was an exhilarating driver but not much of a looker in my subjective opinion.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:49 PM
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I got dealer MSRP about 7k apart of W4 and S coupe with similar options. 87,xxx and 80,xxx with lots of options. Still torn and leaning toward s right now.
Have you thought about just getting the GLC63 SUV and then add maybe a renntech, weistec, dinan or other high end tune? I mean it's already a 63 model and not many people are going to be buying these trucks and modding them. I am not really a fan of the coupe but if it's power you are looking for, then the extra money saved since there is no "S" in the SUV you can go mod happy and get a nice ECU tune.

The Macan is a nice vehicle however, the latest Car and Driver has the GLC43 over the Macan S and SQ5. A previous Car and Driver has the GLC43 over Jaguar F Pace and the Macan GTS which tied the GLC43 in the quartermile. The Macan Turbo is lacking behind the GLC63 and GLC63S. The newly added Macon Turbo Performance Package which has 440hp and 443tq was magazine tested to 0-60 at 4.0. The GLC63 is at 3.8 0-60. I doubt the Macan Turbo with its PP package is going to beat the GLC63 in a comparison test if the other versions can't seem to beat the baby AMG dynamics.

To be honest, the Macan Turbo is a nice truck but without the performance package it sits in between the GLC43 and GLC63 (somewhere in that gray area).
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Have you thought about just getting the GLC63 SUV and then add maybe a renntech, weistec, dinan or other high end tune? I mean it's already a 63 model and not many people are going to be buying these trucks and modding them. I am not really a fan of the coupe but if it's power you are looking for, then the extra money saved since there is no "S" in the SUV you can go mod happy and get a nice ECU tune.

The Macan is a nice vehicle however, the latest Car and Driver has the GLC43 over the Macan S and SQ5. A previous Car and Driver has the GLC43 over Jaguar F Pace and the Macan GTS which tied the GLC43 in the quartermile. The Macan Turbo is lacking behind the GLC63 and GLC63S. The newly added Macon Turbo Performance Package which has 440hp and 443tq was magazine tested to 0-60 at 4.0. The GLC63 is at 3.8 0-60. I doubt the Macan Turbo with its PP package is going to beat the GLC63 in a comparison test if the other versions can't seem to beat the baby AMG dynamics.

To be honest, the Macan Turbo is a nice truck but without the performance package it sits in between the GLC43 and GLC63 (somewhere in that gray area).
I have thought about tuning it, but I can also tune the 510 HP version. I actually saw a GLC43 Coupe when I was walking to my office in Manhattan and I actually thought it was nice. I looked a decent size and at first thought it was a GLE43. I really think I want a few of the S features especially the elctronic diff. I haven't decided 100% but after seeing the 43 today I not as sure that Im fixed on the SUV. The next issue is June for delivery.
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Originally Posted by zer0t
I was looking at a Macan Turbo. It’s not quite the fire breather the AMG is but it drove amazingly.
I have to say that I found the handling of the Macan Turbo to be quite disappointing. Lot of body roll and didn't corner like a sports car. The car I was driving wasn't equipped with the Air Suspension or the Porsche Torque Vectoring and perhaps this is why. The X6M I drove was vastly more sports car like than the Macan Turbo. Which is why I'm expecting the GLC63S to be much better.

I think the Porsche SUV to have will be the Cayenne Turbo until the updated Macan comes out. The new Cayenne with its active roll stabilization and four wheel steering is likely to deliver sports-car handling.
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