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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 11:31 PM
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Thanks for posting! Never watched from start to finish. This is wildly impressive. Of course great driver skill plays into it, but the car handled amazingly well for an "SUV". Do we know what tires he used? Am assuming it's 100% stock?
This was an official production car record. The Nürburgring has staff to verify the vehicle is 100% stock, act as the official time keepers and awards the manufacturer a notarized certificate once a record is set. On that day the GLC63S took the fastest production SUV record from the Stelvio Quadrifoglio despite the track being wet in some areas - so there were still time left on the table to be shaved. However I believe the current record holder is the Q8RS
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Old Dec 23, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by firebert814
This was an official production car record. The Nürburgring has staff to verify the vehicle is 100% stock, act as the official time keepers and awards the manufacturer a notarized certificate once a record is set. On that day the GLC63S took the fastest production SUV record from the Stelvio Quadrifoglio despite the track being wet in some areas - so there were still time left on the table to be shaved. However I believe the current record holder is the Q8RS
Point taken. I'm sold. Will do a track day as soon as time allows!
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Old Dec 24, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by firebert814
This was an official production car record. The Nürburgring has staff to verify the vehicle is 100% stock, act as the official time keepers and awards the manufacturer a notarized certificate once a record is set. On that day the GLC63S took the fastest production SUV record from the Stelvio Quadrifoglio despite the track being wet in some areas - so there were still time left on the table to be shaved. However I believe the current record holder is the Q8RS
The Audi Q8RS is wildly impressive, however at a base price of $114,000 it is in a different class to the GLC63s AMG at a base of $85,000 some $29,000 cheaper. The Q8RS also has 100bhp on the GLC63s. Here is it's 7:42 lap, check out the speed climbing up the hill at Schwedenkreuz (starting at timestamp 1:10) it hit 275km/h compared to the GLC63s, which only hit 253km/h in the same section. Also (watch at timestamp 7:20) the Q8RS hit 302km/h at the end of the long straight in Tiergarten, the GLC63s only managed 263km/h almost 40km/h (25mph) slower. That's the difference power can make.
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Old Dec 24, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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The Audi Q8RS is wildly impressive, however at a base price of $114,000 it is in a different class to the GLC63s AMG at a base of $85,000 some $29,000 cheaper. The Q8RS also has 100bhp on the GLC63s. Here is it's 7:42 lap, check out the speed climbing up the hill at Schwedenkreuz (starting at timestamp 1:10) it hit 275km/h compared to the GLC63s, which only hit 253km/h in the same section. Also (watch at timestamp 7:20) the Q8RS hit 302km/h at the end of the long straight in Tiergarten, the GLC63s only managed 263km/h almost 40km/h (25mph) slower. That's the difference power can make.
https://youtu.be/ANbhV6j05ys
If I remember correctly, the Q8 was on racing tires and had a full roll cage. That would make a huge difference.

BTW...I spanked one from a 20-100 romp the other day but man...I love the Q8RS.
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Old Dec 24, 2020 | 11:09 PM
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If I remember correctly, the Q8 was on racing tires and had a full roll cage. That would make a huge difference.

BTW...I spanked one from a 20-100 romp the other day but man...I love the Q8RS.
Isn't the RSQ8 a Urus? So yes, a different class. One that would have the forthcoming AMG GT SUV in for an apples/apples comparison.

And of course tires would make a huge difference. Cup 2s would shave time off for sure.
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Old Dec 25, 2020 | 04:08 AM
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The RSQ8 was running 23" Perelli P Zeros. The same ones that can be optioned at the dealership. As far as I understand the "Fastest SUV" class is for production spec vehicles only. Also note the Lamborghini Urus time was 7:47 (5 seconds slower than the RSQ8). I still have to give Audi due respect since the Q8 is a much bigger SUV.

One thing to keep in mind is that weather plays a big part in these lap records. Manufacturers book the track weeks in advance and some times conditions isn't ideal when the day comes. For example when the AMG GT Black set the production car record part of the track was still damp and the wet line had to be taken on quite a few corners. More times than not all things aren't equal.
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Old Dec 25, 2020 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by firebert814
The RSQ8 was running 23" Perelli P Zeros. The same ones that can be optioned at the dealership. As far as I understand the "Fastest SUV" class is for production spec vehicles only. Also note the Lamborghini Urus time was 7:47 (5 seconds slower than the RSQ8). I still have to give Audi due respect since the Q8 is a much bigger SUV.

One thing to keep in mind is that weather plays a big part in these lap records. Manufacturers book the track weeks in advance and some times conditions isn't ideal when the day comes. For example when the AMG GT Black set the production car record part of the track was still damp and the wet line had to be taken on quite a few corners. More times than not all things aren't equal.
For sure! And certainly driver skill plays into it too.
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i have been shopping the 2020/2021 glc63 and this is a helpful thread.

Does anyone know if there is a brake size difference between the glc63 suv and glc 63 coupe/ glc63s coupe? i was going to do a carbon retorfit or at minimum probably the red calipers. i can look up the parts if no one knows but wanted to know if anyone had a quick answer.

Also does anyone know if the glc 63 suv has race start (launch control)? I dont necessarily care about race mode although i will activate if possible with coding but i mainly wanted launch control.

I considering jumping from the c43 to this. AWD is a must for me and its unfortunate the c63 doesn't have the 4matic + system.

With 4matic + in glc 63 suv can you put in drift mode? Not that id like to do all the time but to my understanding the 4matic + allows you to make it rwd or awd. is this true?

Thanks! I will hope this will further add to the thread!
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Star4life
i have been shopping the 2020/2021 glc63 and this is a helpful thread.

Does anyone know if there is a brake size difference between the glc63 suv and glc 63 coupe/ glc63s coupe? i was going to do a carbon retorfit or at minimum probably the red calipers. i can look up the parts if no one knows but wanted to know if anyone had a quick answer.

Also does anyone know if the glc 63 suv has race start (launch control)? I dont necessarily care about race mode although i will activate if possible with coding but i mainly wanted launch control.

I considering jumping from the c43 to this. AWD is a must for me and its unfortunate the c63 doesn't have the 4matic + system.

With 4matic + in glc 63 suv can you put in drift mode? Not that id like to do all the time but to my understanding the 4matic + allows you to make it rwd or awd. is this true?

Thanks! I will hope this will further add to the thread!
I'm not a 100% sure for the GLC, but it looks like the 63 and 63S have the same brakes. The S models normally have High-Performance Composite brakes, which are larger and two piece. For example the C63S has them, while the C63 has smaller one piece brakes.

Yes, both the 63 and 63S have Race Start. It's a function of the transmission, but the 63 doesn't have Race mode and no, the SUVs don't have drift mode. Center of gravity is too high for such shenanigans. The SUVs are setup much more conservative. The ESP is also much more conservative compared to the sedans and proper coupes.
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
I'm not a 100% sure for the GLC, but it looks like the 63 and 63S have the same brakes. The S models normally have High-Performance Composite brakes, which are larger and two piece. For example the C63S has them, while the C63 has smaller one piece brakes.

Yes, both the 63 and 63S have Race Start. It's a function of the transmission, but the 63 doesn't have Race mode and no, the SUVs don't have drift mode. Center of gravity is too high for such shenanigans. The SUVs are setup much more conservative. The ESP is also much more conservative compared to the sedans and proper coupes.
ive done a c63s brake retrofit to my c43 and the glc 63 suv and coupe brakes look identical in the front to the c63s. yes the c63 base has smaller brakes for sure, but when talking 10-30mm difference you cant always tell from the pictures. i may have to just look up the part numbers. the calipers all look the same and can be used with different pads so i believe they are the same. i guess i will need to look into this.

great. race start is a must. i wonder if the electronic diff in the facelift models works really well with race start, id assume so. does the coupe glc 63 have drift mode? Not that I care that much just would be nice to know. It makes sense that it wouldn't. not like id be drifting in a glc63 or maybe i would? Not sure until i drive it lol. I mainly just want a fast daily driver with awd so its confident in putting power down in all conditions all times of the year here in the north.
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ive done a c63s brake retrofit to my c43 and the glc 63 suv and coupe brakes look identical in the front to the c63s. yes the c63 base has smaller brakes for sure, but when talking 10-30mm difference you cant always tell from the pictures. i may have to just look up the part numbers. the calipers all look the same and can be used with different pads so i believe they are the same. i guess i will need to look into this.

great. race start is a must. i wonder if the electronic diff in the facelift models works really well with race start, id assume so. does the coupe glc 63 have drift mode? Not that I care that much just would be nice to know. It makes sense that it wouldn't. not like id be drifting in a glc63 or maybe i would? Not sure until i drive it lol. I mainly just want a fast daily driver with awd so its confident in putting power down in all conditions all times of the year here in the north.
Size is one thing. I haven't looked at a closeup of the GLC brakes, but the main difference of the C63S brakes is that the hat and rotor are separate pieces for better thermal management. Nope GLC63 coupe doesn't have drift mode, either. The e-diff definitely helps with Race Start and overall performance as it can proactively lock and lock based on driver inputs such as steering angle etc. The mechanical diff needs a sleeping wheel first before the locking mechanism kicks in.


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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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The glc63's all have the same brakes/size they come with the front spaced 390mm rotors same as the 213 e63s unless you have the carbon ceramics on the first editions. And yes they do have race start on all but the "race mode" is only on the S models and no drift mode, unfortunate.
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I am awaiting delivery of a MY21 GLC 63 SUV (non-S). I know that there is no race mode on the non-S but does it still have launch control?
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I am awaiting delivery of a MY21 GLC 63 SUV (non-S). I know that there is no race mode on the non-S but does it still have launch control?
Yes.https://mbworld.org/forums/glc63s-gl...h-control.html
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 04:20 PM
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Much appreciated!!
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Much appreciated!!
You're welcome my pleasure to help.
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