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Old 05-11-2018, 10:46 AM
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This is going to be the best looking vehicle they've ever produced for the ML/GLE line. It's already gorgeous.

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I hope so. The details must be in the front and rear exterior visuals as the side looks exactly like what I have now LOL. Also, sure hope it has a flat load floor when the rear seats are folded down - that is a huge disappointment to me - I can't believe MBZ could not engineer a flat load floor.
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What do you mean by the term "flat load floor"?
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What do you mean by the term "flat load floor"?
When seats are folded "flat" it is not flat like many other SUVs. Rear seats are raised a bit when folded.

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When seats are folded "flat" it is not flat like many other SUVs. Rear seats are raised a bit when folded.
It's only the 5" thick folded seat bottoms, which nest against the back of the front seats, that protrude. The fuel tank is under the rear seats for safety, so I don't see how it would be done. Everything is a tradeoff. There are only a few times I've found the current arrangement a hindrance.
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When seats are folded "flat" it is not flat like many other SUVs. Rear seats are raised a bit when folded.
You are flipping the seat bottoms forward before letting the backs come down, right? Then the rear cargo floor is completely flat in both my GLE350/43 coupe..
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You are flipping the seat bottoms forward before letting the backs come down, right? Then the rear cargo floor is completely flat in both my GLE350/43 coupe..
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle LOL Bet you guys haven't heard that statement in a while.

I didn't know the seat bottoms go forward - just tried it and learned something - thanks nbukrey and fellow forum brothers. Don't know if rear seats folding is different in a GLE550e due to the huge trunk electric battery but I first purchased the PHEV and that's how the salesman demonstrated it and stated that was the as far as the seat backs went flat so I assumed all W166 were like that. I guess I love my W166 a little better now.
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:16 PM
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Well I'll be a monkey's uncle LOL Bet you guys haven't heard that statement in a while.

I didn't know the seat bottoms go forward - just tried it and learned something - thanks nbukrey and fellow forum brothers. Don't know if rear seats folding is different in a GLE550e due to the huge trunk electric battery but I first purchased the PHEV and that's how the salesman demonstrated it and stated that was the as far as the seat backs went flat so I assumed all W166 were like that. I guess I love my W166 a little better now.
Sales people deal with lots of models but that's no excuse for not knowing their products. The GLE owner's manual makes no mention of the 550e being any different in regards to seat folding, nor does the 550e Supplement Manual mention this. The hybrid battery system is under the rear load floor.

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Anyone know when the first W167 will deliver?
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:39 AM
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Anyone know when the first W167 will deliver?
Nope, that what everyone is speculating about. I would guess by Spring ‘19.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post

Nope, that what everyone is speculating about. I would guess by Spring ‘19.
I hope sooner than that! My dealer is saying world release in October with deliveries in the US in the December time frame. But as this thread has shown, information is scant and MBUSA is not exacting forthcoming about what they're working on. They want people to keep buying the current model as opposed to delaying a purchase for the new one, right?
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I hope sooner than that! My dealer is saying world release in October with deliveries in the US in the December time frame. But as this thread has shown, information is scant and MBUSA is not exacting forthcoming about what they're working on. They want people to keep buying the current model as opposed to delaying a purchase for the new one, right?
When I said "BY" Spring ‘19, I too am hoping on sooner! Our ‘12 is still great, but I am ready for an update. The new power train is what excites me most. The rest of the tech and styling will be icing on the cake. I'm hoping all options will be available from the beginning. I had to wait about 6 months last time to the Lighting and Handling packages.

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This is confusing.
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!

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Old 05-22-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
There is no reveal of a 2019 W166 because there is nothing new to see - no real changes. The 2019 W166 ordering guide is posted here - https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
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There is no reveal of a 2019 W166 because there is nothing new to see - no real changes. The 2019 W166 ordering guide is posted here - https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
Hey KEV. Thanks for replying.

That's the same link that I posted with the same ordering guide for 2019 W166. It shows in the guide of a launch date of Summer 2018.
Even though there's no major changes to W166, supposedly it will have the new dash along with updated headlights and tail lights.
Also a few of our sales people also mentioned that 2019 W166 will be released in the summer but also mentioned it will be a short run model. :-)
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post
This is confusing.
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
I don't always trust dealers, but the info I got from my longtime salesperson seems plausible:

- 2019 W166 models start production in August, probably released September 1.
- 2020 W167 models out Q2 2019

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
I don't always trust dealers, but the info I got from my longtime salesperson seems plausible:

- 2019 W166 models start production in August, probably released September 1.
- 2020 W167 models out Q2 2019
It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
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It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
As far as the schedule goes, I'm sure M-B would have preferred a normal release date this year for the W167 (it's always been a 7-year model run); we may never know the reason it slipped but I think, as I've said before, the all new drivetrain with I-6, 48v electrical and mild hybrid function took longer to integrate than a normal update. Frankly, I bet half of Mercedes buyers have no clue about the model changeovers and just go to the showroom and buy what they like. It's still important even for those to have a 2019 with a few differences from the previous year. I just put in a W167 preorder with my salesperson.
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As far as the schedule goes, I'm sure M-B would have preferred a normal release date this year for the W167 (it's always been a 7-year model run); we may never know the reason it slipped but I think, as I've said before, the all new drivetrain with I-6, 48v electrical and mild hybrid function took longer to integrate than a normal update. Frankly, I bet half of Mercedes buyers have no clue about the model changeovers and just go to the showroom and buy what they like. It's still important even for those to have a 2019 with a few differences from the previous year. I just put in a W167 preorder with my salesperson.
How did you put in a pre-order? They don't seem to even know what the options are on the new GLE.
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How did you put in a pre-order? They don't seem to even know what the options are on the new GLE.
Pre-orders mean you are getting in an advance list with the dealer that hopefully prioritizes you when real ordering becomes available. Some dealers take maybe a $500 deposit, some don’t. I’ve done this on all my M-Class (GLE) and BMW Ms for the last 21 years. I often get the first customer car delivered at the dealer. At this point you are not negotiating price but the “order” is cancellable without penalty.
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post
Hey KEV. Thanks for replying.

That's the same link that I posted with the same ordering guide for 2019 W166. It shows in the guide of a launch date of Summer 2018.
Even though there's no major changes to W166, supposedly it will have the new dash along with updated headlights and tail lights.
Also a few of our sales people also mentioned that 2019 W166 will be released in the summer but also mentioned it will be a short run model. :-)
Thanks for bearing with me. I didn't fully read your post that had the very same link. I always tend to skim threads and post instead of read. Short attention span I guess LOL

I doubt there will be a new dash especially anything related to the E-Class dash and screens especially since the W167 with E-Class dash and screens is due in Q2 of 2019.

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Pre-orders mean you are getting in an advance list with the dealer that hopefully prioritizes you when real ordering becomes available. Some dealers take maybe a $500 deposit, some don’t. I’ve done this on all my M-Class (GLE) and BMW Ms for the last 21 years. I often get the first customer car delivered at the dealer. At this point you are not negotiating price but the “order” is cancellable without penalty.
Thanks. I've never had to give a deposit to my dealer, but I suppose that comes with having purchased at least 15 MB cars with the same dealer since 1995. My dealer has already promised to let me be one of the first to place an order when ordering starts. I don't think they're going to start a pre-order list.
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It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
Why would anyone feel cheated in buying a 2019 GLE? Model years change and cars change every year for all brands, what is different about Mercedes?

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
As far as the schedule goes, I'm sure M-B would have preferred a normal release date this year for the W167 (it's always been a 7-year model run); we may never know the reason it slipped but I think, as I've said before, the all new drivetrain with I-6, 48v electrical and mild hybrid function took longer to integrate than a normal update. Frankly, I bet half of Mercedes buyers have no clue about the model changeovers and just go to the showroom and buy what they like. It's still important even for those to have a 2019 with a few differences from the previous year. I just put in a W167 preorder with my salesperson.
The new I6 engines are already on the road in Europe and will be in the CLS this fall. I seriously doubt that the engines had anything to do with the extra model year on the GLE. The engines were done a while ago and are already in production.

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Why would anyone feel cheated in buying a 2019 GLE? Model years change and cars change every year for all brands, what is different about Mercedes?

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If I purchased a 2019 at the beginning of the new model year and 3 or 4 months later, my new car was replaced with a newer model, I'd feel cheated. Mercedes is certainly hoping people don't do their due diligence and read about the upcoming future models. They don't want people [like us] holding off purchasing a car in anticipation of a completely redesigned model. As it is, your shiny new car is current for one model year. The next model year and your car is outdated. But if you bought a 2019 to find just a few short months later it was redesigned as an all new model, you didn't even get a full year of newness. Of course this is how I would feel and doesn't necessarily have to be how anyone else feels.
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