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10-11-2018, 09:42 PM
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Mercedes-Benz plans to debut its own semi-autonomous system on the refreshed S-Class sedan, due in the 2020 lineup, according to an Automotive News interview with the company’s head of research. The system will offer what the Society of Automotive Engineers refers to as “Level 3” autonomy, which means the car can drive itself in certain situations without any driver input, with the caveat that said driver needs to be ready to take over in case of an emergency.
kind of driver assistance package would be on par with what Audi built into the 2019 A8. Audi’s system — called Traffic Jam Pilot — handles starts, stops, turns, and more while allowing the driver to take their eyes off the road. It would be a step ahead of other current Level 2 systems, like Tesla’s Autopilot or GM’s Super Cruise. (Though, Tesla has promised Autopilot will soon become more robust after the company’s latest software update recently rolled out.) And it would mark a significant leap forward from Mercedes-Benz’s existing driver assistance package, Drive Pilot, which received some not-so-favorable reviews. REGULATORY ROADBLOCKS COULD MAKE FOR A BUMPY ROLLOUTMuch like Audi’s Level 3 system, Mercedes-Benz could wind up with a product that only works in certain places. Regulations regarding driver assistance features like Traffic Jam Pilot can vary from country to country and even state by state. Audi, for instance, decided it didn’t want to deal with the United States’ patchwork regulatory framework, and opted instead to kneecap Traffic Jam Pilot on its cars in this country.
The Verge:
Mercedes-Benz plans to debut its own semi-autonomous system on the refreshed S-Class sedan, due in the 2020 lineup, according to an Automotive News interview with the company’s head of research. The system will offer what the Society of Automotive Engineers refers to as “Level 3” autonomy, which means the car can drive itself in certain situations without any driver input, with the caveat that said driver needs to be ready to take over in case of an emergency.
kind of driver assistance package would be on par with what Audi built into the 2019 A8. Audi’s system — called Traffic Jam Pilot — handles starts, stops, turns, and more while allowing the driver to take their eyes off the road. It would be a step ahead of other current Level 2 systems, like Tesla’s Autopilot or GM’s Super Cruise. (Though, Tesla has promised Autopilot will soon become more robust after the company’s latest software update recently rolled out.) And it would mark a significant leap forward from Mercedes-Benz’s existing driver assistance package, Drive Pilot, which received some not-so-favorable reviews. REGULATORY ROADBLOCKS COULD MAKE FOR A BUMPY ROLLOUTMuch like Audi’s Level 3 system, Mercedes-Benz could wind up with a product that only works in certain places. Regulations regarding driver assistance features like Traffic Jam Pilot can vary from country to country and even state by state. Audi, for instance, decided it didn’t want to deal with the United States’ patchwork regulatory framework, and opted instead to kneecap Traffic Jam Pilot on its cars in this country.
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10-12-2018, 11:20 AM
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I'll be trading in the E300 we bought for my partner, he's already taken my E400 and I'll be getting the E450 I originally ordered in late July, which is now on a ship on it's way to the VPC in Brunswick, GA. It's coming with all the autonomous drive goodies MB can bake into the E Class. Some I'll use. Some I likely won't other than to entertain myself on occasion.
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It’s a popular feature on Tesla even though it’s level 2 and might kill you.
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Mercedes GLE-Class plug-in hybrid could rock 62 miles of EV range
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Plug-in hybrids have been making steady gains in EV range as battery and motor tech improves. To that end, Mercedes-Benz's newest plug-in hybrid could sport some impressive electric-only range.
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class plug-in hybrid is aiming for a 62-mile (100-kilometer) EV range, Automotive News reports, citing an interview with Ola Källenius, head of Mercedes-Benz R&D and the successor to current Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche.
It would be the first combustion-engine vehicle to offer such a range -- most vehicles, including Mercedes-Benz's current PHEVs, target a 31-mile (50-km) range, which is the minimum required to count toward an upcoming EV-credit program in China, currently the market hungriest for electrified vehicles.
Don't get too hung up on that single number, though. Källenius told Automotive News that this range estimate is by Europe's new WLTP testing standard. While it's closer to the figures that the EPA puts together in the US, there's still a disparity between the two, with EPA measurements usually coming in below WLTP estimates. But still, even if the EPA-estimated range is 50 miles, it's still a commendable figure.
It might hold the crown when it goes on sale, but that reign may not last very long. As Automotive News notes, BMW is working on a 100-km system for its plug-in hybrids, as well, and it's expected to debut before 2020. There's also the matter of the Polestar 1, a 600-plus-horsepower PHEV that it believed to have a range closer to 90 miles. But with a MSRP of $155,000, it's not exactly on the same playing field (or even playing the same sport) as the GLE.
Some GLE-Class variants that aren't plug-in hybrids will still benefit from electrification. When the 2020 GLE-Class debuted, Mercedes-Benz announced that the GLE350 4Matic will wield its new EQ Boost 48-volt mild hybrid system, which improves both performance and efficiency, depending on how it's used. The new Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class is expected to go on sale next year.
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/mercedes-gle-class-plug-in-hybrid-range-report/
https://autoweek.com/article/hybrid-electric-vehicles/mercedes-gle-plug-could-go-62-miles-electric-power?utm_source=DailyDrive20181015&utm_medium=ene wsletter&utm_term=headline-center&utm_content=body&utm_campaign=awdailydrive
Plug-in hybrids have been making steady gains in EV range as battery and motor tech improves. To that end, Mercedes-Benz's newest plug-in hybrid could sport some impressive electric-only range.
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class plug-in hybrid is aiming for a 62-mile (100-kilometer) EV range, Automotive News reports, citing an interview with Ola Källenius, head of Mercedes-Benz R&D and the successor to current Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche.
It would be the first combustion-engine vehicle to offer such a range -- most vehicles, including Mercedes-Benz's current PHEVs, target a 31-mile (50-km) range, which is the minimum required to count toward an upcoming EV-credit program in China, currently the market hungriest for electrified vehicles.
Don't get too hung up on that single number, though. Källenius told Automotive News that this range estimate is by Europe's new WLTP testing standard. While it's closer to the figures that the EPA puts together in the US, there's still a disparity between the two, with EPA measurements usually coming in below WLTP estimates. But still, even if the EPA-estimated range is 50 miles, it's still a commendable figure.
It might hold the crown when it goes on sale, but that reign may not last very long. As Automotive News notes, BMW is working on a 100-km system for its plug-in hybrids, as well, and it's expected to debut before 2020. There's also the matter of the Polestar 1, a 600-plus-horsepower PHEV that it believed to have a range closer to 90 miles. But with a MSRP of $155,000, it's not exactly on the same playing field (or even playing the same sport) as the GLE.
Some GLE-Class variants that aren't plug-in hybrids will still benefit from electrification. When the 2020 GLE-Class debuted, Mercedes-Benz announced that the GLE350 4Matic will wield its new EQ Boost 48-volt mild hybrid system, which improves both performance and efficiency, depending on how it's used. The new Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class is expected to go on sale next year.
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/mercedes-gle-class-plug-in-hybrid-range-report/
https://autoweek.com/article/hybrid-electric-vehicles/mercedes-gle-plug-could-go-62-miles-electric-power?utm_source=DailyDrive20181015&utm_medium=ene wsletter&utm_term=headline-center&utm_content=body&utm_campaign=awdailydrive
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10-14-2018, 02:53 PM
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I also see the 2018 W166 has been replaced by the 2019 as the current model: https://www.mbusa.com/en/vehicles/class/gle/suv. The price went up $3,500 (6.7%).
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10-14-2018, 03:49 PM
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The old GLE350 4matic started at $54,700 and has a 302hp V6. the new base is the GLE400 4matic at $55,700 or $1k more than the old. but the new one has a 329hp 3.0 Turbo V6. I'd say the more powerful engine is easily worth the extra $1k increase.
I hope the W167 GLE450 4matic will start in the mid to upper $50k range with well equipped models in the upper $60k to lower $70k range.
I hope the W167 GLE450 4matic will start in the mid to upper $50k range with well equipped models in the upper $60k to lower $70k range.
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The old GLE350 4matic started at $54,700 and has a 302hp V6. the new base is the GLE400 4matic at $55,700 or $1k more than the old. but the new one has a 329hp 3.0 Turbo V6. I'd say the more powerful engine is easily worth the extra $1k increase.
I hope the W167 GLE450 4matic will start in the mid to upper $50k range with well equipped models in the upper $60k to lower $70k range.
I hope the W167 GLE450 4matic will start in the mid to upper $50k range with well equipped models in the upper $60k to lower $70k range.
10-14-2018, 03:57 PM
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As for the W167, If I can get a well equipped GLE450 for upper 60 to lower 70k range then I'll be buying one. (assuming 3rd row has enough usable space). Otherwise I will spend a little bit more on a GLS.
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If release is really going to be Spring (earliest March-April) then it wouldn’t seem likely to get a DOG or pricing before year end....would it? I know it could be done but why commit to pricing that far in advance? Releasing the DOG more than 30 days ahead of pricing might cause a lot of anxiety. Time will tell!
I’m still skeptical at that timeline since production started in early October. That would be a huge stockpile of vehicles at full production. Even slowly ramping up it would still be a lot!
I’m still skeptical at that timeline since production started in early October. That would be a huge stockpile of vehicles at full production. Even slowly ramping up it would still be a lot!
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If release is really going to be Spring (earliest March-April) then it wouldn’t seem likely to get a DOG or pricing before year end....would it? I know it could be done but why commit to pricing that far in advance? Releasing the DOG more than 30 days ahead of pricing might cause a lot of anxiety. Time will tell!
I’m still skeptical at that timeline since production started in early October. That would be a huge stockpile of vehicles at full production. Even slowly ramping up it would still be a lot!
I’m still skeptical at that timeline since production started in early October. That would be a huge stockpile of vehicles at full production. Even slowly ramping up it would still be a lot!
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According to Mercedes availability in the US will be "the beginning of 2019." I do not think full production has started - I'm guessing closer to the en of the year, first with Launch vehicles, then customer orders. I expect DOG by the end of this month or early next.
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I can’t find anything indicating an earlier release but it would seem logical based on the production start. Here’s the Mercedes official web site quote.:
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE will debut this October 2018 at the World Premiere at Mondial l' Automobile in Paris and will cruise into U.S. dealerships spring 2019”
Link-https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...cedes_Benz_GLE
I can’t get anything specific from my dealer-I even sent the GLE production start video and asked again.
According to Mercedes availability in the US will be "the beginning of 2019." I do not think full production has started - I'm guessing closer to the end of the year, first with Launch vehicles, then customer orders. I expect DOG by the end of this month or early next.
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE will debut this October 2018 at the World Premiere at Mondial l' Automobile in Paris and will cruise into U.S. dealerships spring 2019”
Link-https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...cedes_Benz_GLE
I can’t get anything specific from my dealer-I even sent the GLE production start video and asked again.
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I can’t find anything indicating an earlier release but it would seem logical based on the production start. Here’s the Mercedes official web site quote.:
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE will debut this October 2018 at the World Premiere at Mondial l' Automobile in Paris and will cruise into U.S. dealerships spring 2019”
Link-https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...cedes_Benz_GLE
I can’t get anything specific from my dealer-I even sent the GLE production start video and asked again.
The 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLE will debut this October 2018 at the World Premiere at Mondial l' Automobile in Paris and will cruise into U.S. dealerships spring 2019”
Link-https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...cedes_Benz_GLE
I can’t get anything specific from my dealer-I even sent the GLE production start video and asked again.
- Daimler Global press release - "It will be in the dealerships in early 2019 in the USA and Europe, and in spring 2019 in China." - that would indicate US before Spring.
- Mercedes USA press release - "...will go on sale in the U.S. in 2019."
- The Canadian preliminary document showed at least one option has "Delayed until 01/2019 prod." noted - this means production must start by end of 2018.
- I know I saw "beginning of 2019" recently for US availability, just can't find it now.
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