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Old 04-26-2019, 10:12 PM
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Can Someone Explain the Locking Bolts to me

The GLE450 I bought has locking bolts. I'm a bit confused. Inside the glove box was a small box that came with the car. Inside were 4 bolts and what looked like a small tool. What are the 4 bolts for? Are the locking bolts not installed? Also the small tool that came does not fit the head of any of the bolts, way too big. All you tube videos only show how to beat the locking bolt system none shows how it works...thanks.
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Do you see a bolt that looks different than the rest on each wheel?
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Let me clear this up:

1. the factory puts the small box in the glovebox - the VPC removes 1-lug bolt each wheel - and replaces it with a special bolt - and the "socket" that fits each special bolt is in that box

2. IMPORTANT - move that small box to your spare tire area - often there will be a square area in lower right corner for it - or find another secure area in the spare tire area to secure it

3. IMPORTANT - there is NO Mercedes VMI record of what type of locking bolts were put in your car - so if you lose that box - the ONLY way for a dealer to help is to have your MB towed to the dealership where they have a full sets of all the different masters - and literally they have to go thru the master ring to see what master/type locking bolt is on your MB

4. If you have a GLE where the lugs on each wheel ROUNDED EDGE DESIGN (or called ROSE DESIGN) - instead of sharp angles like a "normal" lug bolt - to a Wheel/Tire Shop those LOOK like locking lug bolts - but ACTUALLY REGULAR LUG WRENCH FITS ROUNDED ROSE LUGS PERFECTLY
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Do you see a bolt that looks different than the rest on each wheel?
No they all look the same to me and the special tool fits none of those bolts or the bolts in the box.
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I will check further on this thanks.
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Originally Posted by bkushner
I will check further on this thanks.
Do the bolts in the box look like regular bolts? Take a look at the bolts that are on holding the wheels on right now. Does one of them look different from the rest and fits the key? Maybe the locking bolts were already put on each wheel.
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This is a photo of the 2020 GLE "standard" lugs bolts - which USE STANDARD LUG WRENCH to remove
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Originally Posted by bkushner
I will check further on this thanks.
If you could post a picture it would help. I didn’t have any items except the Type C USB cables and front license plate bracket.
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
This is a photo of the 2020 GLE "standard" lugs bolts - which USE STANDARD LUG WRENCH to remove
Thanks for the photo. I figured out the locking bolt is on each tire so I'm good to go.
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Originally Posted by Ron.s
If you could post a picture it would help. I didn’t have any items except the Type C USB cables and front license plate bracket.
Did you check where the spare is? You did pay for the locking bolt option?
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Did you check where the spare is? You did pay for the locking bolt option?
No I didn’t order the wheel locks. I may put on aftermarket wheels that may use different bolts. If not will add them later.
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
This is a photo of the 2020 GLE "standard" lugs bolts - which USE STANDARD LUG WRENCH to remove
a regular socket will remove those bolts? I thought I had to get a special socket to remove them.
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Originally Posted by EL-34
a regular socket will remove those bolts? I thought I had to get a special socket to remove them.
Yeah I leaned something new today. So are the flower bolts designed this way to prevent stripping?
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Originally Posted by EL-34
a regular socket will remove those bolts? I thought I had to get a special socket to remove them.
A traditional lug socket will remove them, but it could also deform them to the point the proper flower type socket will no longer work.
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Originally Posted by HotRodW
A traditional lug socket will remove them, but it could also deform them to the point the proper flower type socket will no longer work.
I've never checked but does the emergency socket in the trunk accommodate this flower bolt then? If not, it seems like we should all pack a flower socket in our trunks.
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Originally Posted by wildta
I've never checked but does the emergency socket in the trunk accommodate this flower bolt then? If not, it seems like we should all pack a flower socket in our trunks.
No, the emergency tool is a standard hex. The spare's lugs are also standard hex. Makes perfect sense, right? I do carry a flower socket just in case.
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
This is a photo of the 2020 GLE "standard" lugs bolts - which USE STANDARD LUG WRENCH to remove
I find a standard hex lug wrench does not fit "perfectly" and will ruin the "flower" head bolts over time as HotRodW concurs. Use the right tool. I use this: https://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/...oducts_id=8303

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Thanks. I used a hockey puck between the jack and lift points. The puck is mauled.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
I find a standard hex lug wrench does not fit "perfectly" and will ruin the "flower" head bolts over time as HotRodW concurs. Use the right tool. I use this: https://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/...oducts_id=8303
Thanks. Any recommendations on length of breaker bar to go with it? Should I be keeping a spare set of lugs too?

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Thanks. Any recommendations on length of breaker bar to go with it? Should I be keeping a spare set of lugs too?
I have a 2' breaker bar, socket adapter 3/8 to 1/2, and the flower head socket in my trunk as well as the 4 standard wheel bolts and key in my trunk.
Some how one of my locking sockets got lost and I was never told. I ended up getting a complete new set on eBay for about $80. I had an indie do a oil change
since my dealer wanted to do a "b" service for $1200. The indie felt he should also rotate the tires. Not anything I asked for. I ended up also getting a set of standard
flower head bolts from eBay. They were free after I explained to the seller that he sent me the standard wheel bolts from the car he just traded in. Ha to the next
owner. Long story shortened - I check all my flower head bolts and threw away 6-7 of them since they were mangled.
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Originally Posted by wildta
Thanks. Any recommendations on length of breaker bar to go with it? Should I be keeping a spare set of lugs too?
An 18" bar works fine for me. Shouldn't need extra lugs, but I keep just one.
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FWIW, Traditional hex lug bolts are what's supplied with the Night Package and black wheels.
The flower heads come with silver bolts for the silver wheels.

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