GLE 450-Some Random Thoughts & More
The GLE 450 has exceeded my expectations in every way. Quality, features, fun to drive and the perfect size. If ordering again I wouldn’t change a thing except maybe try again to get the Acoustic Comfort package that somehow got dropped.
As a new Mercedes customer these are some things I’ve found or comments about features in no particular order. Feel free to add to the list.
I know I’m forgetting a few things so will add more thoughts later. Feel free to add your own. Regrettably I did not log where I found some of the changes. Made a few stumbling on features and trying them out. To those stuck in Limbo, stick it out...this is a car worth owning. It’s an almost perfect balance of Luxury, Comfort and decent Handling and Performance. Probably the best in its class until the AMG’s get updated. Mercedes seems to be taking the high road and taking losses rather than put out an inferior quality product. But maybe I just got lucky, time will tell! |
Great report Ron, good to have from an actual owner, keep us updated.
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Really informative Ron.
How is the Airmatic suspension working out...?? |
Originally Posted by venkyszone
(Post 7743546)
Really informative Ron.
How is the Airmatic suspension working out...?? Sport Mode seems to be a better overall driving mode but obviously you lose the plusher ride. Still good but just a little more controlled. The GLE has a very quiet interior and I think the Airmatic helps reduce tire noise on recently seal coated roads. There is no tire noise on smooth roads but a little on rough ones. The 20” AMG tires have more sidewall than I expected so they may contribute to the ride. Incidentally mine came with 36 lbs front and rear. The tire says max of 40 while the door sticker (38F & 48R extra load) and gas cap (31) seem to be for the 19” wheel with 255/50’s. |
EQ Boost is amazing. Coming from a C300 with auto engine off, it is night and day. It makes 450 worth the extra.
On build quality, I wish the two touch buttons on steering wheel is more solid. On mine they have a little wiggle room when I swipe on them. The interior light control buttons are not well aligned. Hopefully not a universal issue. |
Originally Posted by cnnn
(Post 7743704)
EQ Boost is amazing. Coming from a C300 with auto engine off, it is night and day. It makes 450 worth the extra.
On build quality, I wish the two touch buttons on steering wheel is more solid. On mine they have a little wiggle room when I swipe on them. The interior light control buttons are not well aligned. Hopefully not a universal issue. |
Originally Posted by cnnn
(Post 7743704)
EQ Boost is amazing. Coming from a C300 with auto engine off, it is night and day. It makes 450 worth the extra.
On build quality, I wish the two touch buttons on steering wheel is more solid. On mine they have a little wiggle room when I swipe on them. The interior light control buttons are not well aligned. Hopefully not a universal issue. |
Nice writeup Ron, thanks - funny, the Acoustic Comfort Package was dropped from mine too.
- Rob |
A few more things:
Driver Assistance Plus-The controls are on the left side of the steering wheel. You need ESC active for it to work. There is a shortcut button on the left side of the center console (between seats toward dash), middle button with a car picture brings up a group of off/on for maybe nine things, ESC being the first one. There is an off on switch on the left steering wheel. With that on a greyed out image appears in the upper center of the Driver display. This means it’s ready to activate by rolling the steering wheel lower center rocker switch up “set+”. This will get you started but the instructions start on page 200 of Owners Manual. Still confusing to me since there are several functions and strange terminology in the DA Plus package. I found that it doesn’t work for stop lights-deactivated twice as I approached a red light. I got a warning driving with one hand and again with two but a loose grip trying to evaluate how it holds a lane. Audi monitors slight pressure so that on a straight road you get a warning. Mercedes may have a sensor that monitors touch, still trying to figure that out. I was able to set cruise speed at 40 in a 35, I think there will be a limit to how much over but could be wrong. I won’t use this except on the Freeway on a longer trip. Another nice feature is the way Mercedes reads speed limit signs. It reads the primary speed limit sign but also recognizes the special signs like school zones, curves and off ramp limits. Those limits are placed in the HUD (&DIC) below the posted limit so there is now your current speed, the speed limit and the “ temporary limit”. I found a big lag accelerating today. I was turning out of a parking lot onto a busy street and attempted to accelerate quickly. Not much happened until I completed the turn. This might be the safety system recognizing other vehicles or something similar. |
Originally Posted by bob01
(Post 7743834)
Nice writeup Ron, thanks - funny, the Acoustic Comfort Package was dropped from mine too.
- Rob |
Initial comments
It's only been 2 1/2 days and 100 miles, but some initial impressions. No major disappointments or issues so far.
Tires o My 21s came with Pirellis Scorpion Zero All Seasons, about $1,270/set at The Tire Rack https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ero+All+Season o Tire pressure listing inside driver’s door is size specific for 21s – 34F/39R. Notation inside fuel flap (non-specific) is 31F/31R normal; 31F/39R loaded. I think I will go 34/34 for normal use. Not sure why Mercedes does this (was same on my ’12); it’s confusing. E-ABC o Road Surface Scan & Curve Inclination functions are only active in “Comfort” drive program (actually “CV,” not just “C”). I really wish they worked in Sport. o Curve function has 3 setting levels. Level 3 is quite pronounced and interesting. Takes a while to get used to, but kinda cool. o When car is off it lowers down instantly and looks pretty racy. Also lowers while driving in Sport & Sport+. Exterior o The AMG package and the big wheels really make this car IMO. Interior o The Dinamica/MB-Tex sport seats look good and are comfortable; not as quite as luxurious as leather, of course. Saves almost $3k, though. o The designo Black Flamed Open-Pore Ash (in architecture this is called Shou Sugi Ban) wood sure doesn’t feel like $850. Could be plastic if you didn’t know better. Not terrible, but I should have gone with Metal Weave. Electronics o Like on my M4, the Head Up display is not visible with polarized sunglasses o The MBUX system is easy to learn the basics of; many things still take a dive into the manual o The Video Augmented Navigation is cool. o Don’t miss the driving nannies I didn’t order at this point. Maybe on a long trip of if I was commuting a lot it would be a different story. o Parktronic beeps are a little obtrusive backing into the garage, even turned down. Need to figure out how to turn them off. Driving o “Comfort” driving program IS comfortable & plush; as I mentioned above, I’m not sure how much the Road Surface Scan is helping. For my style of driving it’s slightly too floaty, but my wife will love it and will be fine on trips. Would be even better with 20s instead of my 21s. o “Sport” is I think my favorite overall. Handling is firm. Ride height is lowered and roll controlled. o “Sport+” is very firm but not uncomfortable on good roads. Gears are held more aggressively. Ride height is lowered even more. o The active exhaust gets more assertive in Sport & Sport+ but is not all that loud. o Start/stop system is instantaneous and unobtrusive. No reason to turn it off. It turns off automatically in Sport & Sport+, though. o Steering lacks feel but is accurate; feels quicker than my ‘12. What I’d do differently o Nappa leather upholstery instead of Dinamica o Metal weave trim instead of Black Flamed Open-Pore Ash o Heated & cooled cupholders (forgot my wife drives around with a can of Lacroix a lot) |
I have a feeling I'm going to regret the audio choice over the AMG exterior. Poor packaging on MBUSA part. Thanks for the thoughts, Greg. Wanting to get your opinion on E-ABC as time goes on and yo have more miles on it.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
(Post 7746163)
E-ABC
o Road Surface Scan & Curve Inclination functions are only active in “Comfort” drive program (actually “CV,” not just “C”). I really wish they worked in Sport. o Curve function has 3 setting levels. Level 3 is quite pronounced and interesting. Takes a while to get used to, but kinda cool. o When car is off it lowers down instantly and looks pretty racy.
Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
(Post 7746163)
Electronics
o Don’t miss the driving nannies I didn’t order at this point. Maybe on a long trip if I was commuting a lot it would be a different story. |
Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
(Post 7746163)
It's only been 2 1/2 days and 100 miles, but some initial impressions. No major disappointments or issues so far.
Tires o My 21s came with Pirellis Scorpion Zero All Seasons, about $1,270/set at The Tire Rack https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ero+All+Season o Tire pressure listing inside driver’s door is size specific for 21s – 34F/39R. Notation inside fuel flap (non-specific) is 31F/31R normal; 31F/39R loaded. I think I will go 34/34 for normal use. Not sure why Mercedes does this (was same on my ’12); it’s confusing. E-ABC o Road Surface Scan & Curve Inclination functions are only active in “Comfort” drive program (actually “CV,” not just “C”). I really wish they worked in Sport. o Curve function has 3 setting levels. Level 3 is quite pronounced and interesting. Takes a while to get used to, but kinda cool. o When car is off it lowers down instantly and looks pretty racy. Exterior o The AMG package and the big wheels really make this car IMO. Interior o The Dinamica/MB-Tex sport seats look good and are comfortable; not as quite as luxurious as leather, of course. Saves almost $3k, though. o The designo Black Flamed Open-Pore Ash (in architecture this is called Shou Sugi Ban) wood sure doesn’t feel like $850. Could be plastic if you didn’t know better. Not terrible, but I should have gone with Metal Weave. Electronics o Like on my M4, the Head Up display is not visible with polarized sunglasses o The MBUX system is easy to learn the basics of; many things still take a dive into the manual o The Video Augmented Navigation is cool. o Don’t miss the driving nannies I didn’t order at this point. Maybe on a long trip of if I was commuting a lot it would be a different story. o Parktronic beeps are a little obtrusive backing into the garage, even turned down. Need to figure out how to turn them off. Driving o “Comfort” driving program IS comfortable & plush; as I mentioned above, I’m not sure how much the Road Surface Scan is helping. For my style of driving it’s slightly too floaty, but my wife will love it and will be fine on trips. Would be even better with 20s instead of my 21s. o “Sport” is I think my favorite overall. Handling is firm. Ride height is lowered and roll controlled. o “Sport+” is very firm but not uncomfortable on good roads. Gears are held more aggressively. Ride height is lowered even more. o The active exhaust gets more assertive in Sport & Sport+ but is not all that loud. o Start/stop system is instantaneous and unobtrusive. No reason to turn it off. It turns off automatically in Sport & Sport+, though. o Steering lacks feel but is accurate; feels quicker than my ‘12. What I’d do differently o Nappa leather upholstery instead of Dinamica o Metal weave trim instead of Black Flamed Open-Pore Ash o Heated & cooled cupholders (forgot my wife drives around with a can of Lacroix a lot) Wanted them but was advise my order would be rejected due to trim unless I pick something else? |
I have found one feature that I might not order again.....Driver Assistance Plus. The legal guys may have had too much input. Yesterday I got a chance to use it on the Freeway for about 25 miles. The Distronic seemed to be OK except that it seemed to leave a little too much distance as speeds slowed. A car changed into my lane and Distronic applied the brakes. Then at a speed of 77 traffic started backing up and we slowed to 60. There was a wide open lane to my left but the car stayed in the same lane. I read later that you have to activate the turn signal for the lane change assist to work.
There was excessive on the throttle and braking in heavy traffic. Not as smooth as one would expect. The Vehicle ignored Speed limit signs and I can’t find any activation feature that I missed. I thought it would automatically adjust the vehicle speed to the current limit but was going 77 in a 65. Not necessarily a bad thing being able to set it higher. Still looking for a setting I overlooked. I had an instance where the car ping ponged between the lane markers our Audi seems to work much better. There didn’t seem to be anything like glare from the sun or poor lane markings and it worked better before. I had hoped for something better than plain Cruise Control but Its not there yet for me. I had hoped that on a long trip I could relax a bit more with DAP. They have a long list of the individual features but there may be too little integration into a quality package. Please chime in if anyone else has used this feature. What is your experience? I’m still hoping that I have missed some settings. |
Originally Posted by Ron.s
(Post 7746276)
I have found one feature that I might not order again.....Driver Assistance Plus. The legal guys may have had too much input. Yesterday I got a chance to use it on the Freeway for about 25 miles. The Distronic seemed to be OK except that it seemed to leave a little too much distance as speeds slowed. A car changed into my lane and Distronic applied the brakes. Then at a speed of 77 traffic started backing up and we slowed to 60. There was a wide open lane to my left but the car stayed in the same lane. I read later that you have to activate the turn signal for the lane change assist to work.
There was excessive on the throttle and braking in heavy traffic. Not as smooth as one would expect. The Vehicle ignored Speed limit signs and I can’t find any activation feature that I missed. I thought it would automatically adjust the vehicle speed to the current limit but was going 77 in a 65. Not necessarily a bad thing being able to set it higher. Still looking for a setting I overlooked. I had an instance where the car ping ponged between the lane markers our Audi seems to work much better. There didn’t seem to be anything like glare from the sun or poor lane markings and it worked better before. I had hoped for something better than plain Cruise Control but Its not there yet for me. I had hoped that on a long trip I could relax a bit more with DAP. They have a long list of the individual features but there may be too little integration into a quality package. Please chime in if anyone else has used this feature. What is your experience? I’m still hoping that I have missed some settings. |
Originally Posted by jxl007
(Post 7746267)
@Greg - Can you actually order the metal weave trim? I've seen them on cars at the dealership and people have talked about it but I thought those won't go into production until Jan 2020 cars?
Wanted them but was advise my order would be rejected due to trim unless I pick something else? |
Probably supply issues again. The latest DOG said it wouldn’t be available until Dec 2019.
Originally Posted by Ron.s
(Post 7746369)
It was available to order through November when orders first opened. I’m not sure when it was no longer available but I had it on my order in late November but changed it later.
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Metal Weave trim
Originally Posted by jxl007
(Post 7746267)
@Greg - Can you actually order the metal weave trim? I've seen them on cars at the dealership and people have talked about it but I thought those won't go into production until Jan 2020 cars?
Wanted them but was advise my order would be rejected due to trim unless I pick something else? |
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A couple more initial comments
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I continue to be impressed by this vehicle. Here are some more observations.
1. The owners manual has some obvious mistakes. They have probably updated it from another model or prior Gen and it shows. 2. The wide front offset on AMG Wheels is probably to accommodate the huge brakes. There is very little clearance now so it may be a challenge fitting Aftermarket wheels. I have a set of 8 1/2” with et35 in my shop that I will try to fit in the next week or so. I’m doubtful they will work. I think hub bore and back spacing will be an issue. Tire Rack is the only place I have found fitment info and I think it’s is for non AMG vehicles. I may call them to confirm after I try my set. 3. Mine definitely reads traffic lights. I turned on some off functions and now each time I stop it flashes a notice across the upper screen that I can activate traffic..... touch and the front camera comes on. Really don’t see the use now but there may be some plan for the future. 4. There is a setting for Dash Cam but it is not functional-might be another future enhancement. |
Originally Posted by Ron.s
(Post 7748418)
I continue to be impressed by this vehicle. Here are some more observations.
1. The owners manual has some obvious mistakes. They have probably updated it from another model or prior Gen and it shows. 2. The wide front offset on AMG Wheels is probably to accommodate the huge brakes. There is very little clearance now so it may be a challenge fitting Aftermarket wheels. I have a set of 8 1/2” with et35 in my shop that I will try to fit in the next week or so. I’m doubtful they will work. I think hub bore and back spacing will be an issue. Tire Rack is the only place I have found fitment info and I think it’s is for non AMG vehicles. I may call them to confirm after I try my set. 3. Mine definitely reads traffic lights. I turned on some off functions and now each time I stop it flashes a notice across the upper screen that I can activate traffic..... touch and the front camera comes on. Really don’t see the use now but there may be some plan for the future. 4. There is a setting for Dash Cam but it is not functional-might be another future enhancement. |
Two random questions:
- Looking at getting wheel locks, what size for the 21 multispoke AMG rims? - Has anyone thought of installing either bumper bars or bull bars? Thanks |
Originally Posted by bad habit
(Post 7748428)
Two random questions:
- Looking at getting wheel locks, what size for the 21 multispoke AMG rims? - Has anyone thought of installing either bumper bars or bull bars? Thanks |
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