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Funny how the new GLC Coupe gets the 3D Burmester as standard.
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I think that's just marketing shenanigans
The normal Burmester on GLE has 13 speakers and 590 watts (same as current gen GLCs), the upgraded one has 25 and 1550W
https://www.burmester.de/en/Automotive/GLE/
So this "3D" system on the new GLC has 2 more speakers and 120 watts of extra power. Seems like MB is trying to do more with less, as a way to hide supply chain issues.
The normal Burmester on GLE has 13 speakers and 590 watts (same as current gen GLCs), the upgraded one has 25 and 1550W
https://www.burmester.de/en/Automotive/GLE/
So this "3D" system on the new GLC has 2 more speakers and 120 watts of extra power. Seems like MB is trying to do more with less, as a way to hide supply chain issues.
"A 1,590-watt amp combines analog and digital signals to deliver the most natural sound spectrum in any music genre. A total of 25 speakers includes a subwoofer with its own 400-watt amp, ceiling-mounted surround speakers, and LED-illuminated tweeters. "
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It's actually almost 2,000 watts. Looks like the Burmester site omitted the part about the built-in 400 watt subwoofer amp. From the MB website:
"A 1,590-watt amp combines analog and digital signals to deliver the most natural sound spectrum in any music genre. A total of 25 speakers includes a subwoofer with its own 400-watt amp, ceiling-mounted surround speakers, and LED-illuminated tweeters. "
"A 1,590-watt amp combines analog and digital signals to deliver the most natural sound spectrum in any music genre. A total of 25 speakers includes a subwoofer with its own 400-watt amp, ceiling-mounted surround speakers, and LED-illuminated tweeters. "
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Don't need a Burmeister for this music
Please do not misunderstand me; I'm a driving enthusiast who also loves music and appreciates the finer points of music reproduction and sound reinforcement. And yes, I do like it loud.
But at some point, these sound systems seem to come in conflict with the joy of driving. As much as I love music (and enjoy listening to it in my other vehicles), I more often than not have the dash-mounted sound system in my E63 turned off... in favor of listening to the symphony coming from under the hood and from out the tailpipes. Easier to hit shift points when you can actually hear what's going on, too.
A while ago, learned that some dude at AMG -- maybe it was Toto? -- would always start his AMG with the door open... just so he could hear the music even better. Ever since, I do the same.
But at some point, these sound systems seem to come in conflict with the joy of driving. As much as I love music (and enjoy listening to it in my other vehicles), I more often than not have the dash-mounted sound system in my E63 turned off... in favor of listening to the symphony coming from under the hood and from out the tailpipes. Easier to hit shift points when you can actually hear what's going on, too.
A while ago, learned that some dude at AMG -- maybe it was Toto? -- would always start his AMG with the door open... just so he could hear the music even better. Ever since, I do the same.
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Please do not misunderstand me; I'm a driving enthusiast who also loves music and appreciates the finer points of music reproduction and sound reinforcement. And yes, I do like it loud.
But at some point, these sound systems seem to come in conflict with the joy of driving. As much as I love music (and enjoy listening to it in my other vehicles), I more often than not have the dash-mounted sound system in my E63 turned off... in favor of listening to the symphony coming from under the hood and from out the tailpipes. Easier to hit shift points when you can actually hear what's going on, too.
A while ago, learned that some dude at AMG -- maybe it was Toto? -- would always start his AMG with the door open... just so he could hear the music even better. Ever since, I do the same.
But at some point, these sound systems seem to come in conflict with the joy of driving. As much as I love music (and enjoy listening to it in my other vehicles), I more often than not have the dash-mounted sound system in my E63 turned off... in favor of listening to the symphony coming from under the hood and from out the tailpipes. Easier to hit shift points when you can actually hear what's going on, too.
A while ago, learned that some dude at AMG -- maybe it was Toto? -- would always start his AMG with the door open... just so he could hear the music even better. Ever since, I do the same.
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Two things influenced my comment: 1) E63 isn't my DD, so when I take it out, it tends to be with the purpose of a spirited drive, and; 2) I was having disconcerting recollections of self-driven, multimedia mobile lounges I've seen envisioned by some automakers.
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Welp gentlemen, it's been fun. Perhaps I'll look at a V168, if they make one, but this will do until then.
I got lucky and got an April production M60i allocation at my dealer and took it after playing around with the new X7 (same interior as X5) and using iDrive 8 with the curved screen. It's impressive.
I got lucky and got an April production M60i allocation at my dealer and took it after playing around with the new X7 (same interior as X5) and using iDrive 8 with the curved screen. It's impressive.
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BMW has pricing out on new X5 very odd that Mercedes won’t put pricing out. It’s hard to order a vehicle without a price baseline usually it’s a nominal price raise but for 2024 they added a lot of standard features to the AMG 53 so can be major price raise.
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I was told by my dealer that the price for the GLE 53 starts at $81,500.
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I think motor trend made that guess also. When I started to order a 2024 GLE 53 that was my dealer and my guess.
$81500 is about a 6% increase which even with the increased standard items should be good. I would think the MSRP would
need to be out in April to solidify builds from customers. Although I'm not sure of MB policy or process to release MSRP.
$81500 is about a 6% increase which even with the increased standard items should be good. I would think the MSRP would
need to be out in April to solidify builds from customers. Although I'm not sure of MB policy or process to release MSRP.
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I think motor trend made that guess also. When I started to order a 2024 GLE 53 that was my dealer and my guess.
$81500 is about a 6% increase which even with the increased standard items should be good. I would think the MSRP would
need to be out in April to solidify builds from customers. Although I'm not sure of MB policy or process to release MSRP.
$81500 is about a 6% increase which even with the increased standard items should be good. I would think the MSRP would
need to be out in April to solidify builds from customers. Although I'm not sure of MB policy or process to release MSRP.
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I also don't understand how BMW has the 2023 M2 with prices ready a few weeks after the announcement in back in October last year and almost ready for delivery in a month or so while the W206 2023 C 43 is still stuck at the VPC, a car that was announced back in April 26 of last year.
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Welp gentlemen, it's been fun. Perhaps I'll look at a V168, if they make one, but this will do until then.
I got lucky and got an April production M60i allocation at my dealer and took it after playing around with the new X7 (same interior as X5) and using iDrive 8 with the curved screen. It's impressive.
I got lucky and got an April production M60i allocation at my dealer and took it after playing around with the new X7 (same interior as X5) and using iDrive 8 with the curved screen. It's impressive.
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They may have phrased it poorly to you, it could be that their available allocations are filled. Regardless, dealers can accept orders for existing allocations with build dates.
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So allocations got filled up for 2023 GLE 450? So, I need to find a dealer that can still accept orders for existing allocations?
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In theory, every dealer should have something. However, most dealerships are still dealing with a backlog of 450 orders. Your best bet is to call the dealers in your area and see if they have an open allocation.
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It is ridiculous that MB's potential customers have to guess what price their vehicle is going to be, like seriously just tell us the price, if BMW can do it so can Mercedes, it is not rocket science, it is not like if the consumer guesses a price (or in this case name a price) Mercedes will honour it for those who put in an order early.
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