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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 04:32 PM
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New to me CPO 2024 GLE 450 was a dealer owned loaner with 6000 miles on it. Extremely unhappy with the rear view camera issue but am told MB is actually working on a fix. I'm not a fan of the touch controls on the steering wheel, the older physical buttons were nicer. The new MBUX 2 seems to have lost some functionality compared to the old version on my 2023 and 2020 but those two items are more of a subjective preference and not a problem with the car. The warden absolutely loves the colors so that's enough for me.


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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 05:02 PM
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very nice colour. Drove a newer loaner recently and it had these new buttons on the wheel. Could not stand it.
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:18 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:37 AM
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I have a 2025 GLE 450. The camera puts a blue wedge on the image to indicate the direction the image is from, but this makes it hard to see details. Wish it didn't do that.
Another nit: the headlight switch is harder to grip that the MBs I've had before, and harder at a glance to see if it's turned on or off.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:44 AM
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I have a 2025 GLE 450. The camera puts a blue wedge on the image to indicate the direction the image is from, but this makes it hard to see details. Wish it didn't do that.
Another nit: the headlight switch is harder to grip that the MBs I've had before, and harder at a glance to see if it's turned on or off.
I just leave the headlights on auto all the time.
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 11:33 AM
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I just leave the headlights on auto all the time.
Sometimes it doesn't turn them on when really needed though, such as when it's raining.

(Speaking of that, I wish there was an indicator on the dash that your wipers are on. When you turn them to interval, they may not be wiping when you turn the car off, and I don't want them to swipe across a cry windshield next time.)
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 11:47 AM
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Sometimes it doesn't turn them on when really needed though, such as when it's raining.
You don't use the daytime running lamps?
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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They don't meet the law requiring headlights on when raining, and they don't turn your taillights on.
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Sometimes it doesn't turn them on when really needed though, such as when it's raining.

(Speaking of that, I wish there was an indicator on the dash that your wipers are on. When you turn them to interval, they may not be wiping when you turn the car off, and I don't want them to swipe across a cry windshield next time.)
A "best practice" is to always have the wipers OFF. That way they won't take the first swipe on an abrasive windshield at the first drop detected.
Then, as you expect rain or mist, use the squirt and wipe function to clean things, then set to Intermittent.

The rear wiper is also a catch point for dirt, sand and dust - it parks there. Lift the blade from time to time to release the dirt before wiping.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 03:00 PM
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They don't meet the law requiring headlights on when raining, and they don't turn your taillights on.
I don't believe this is accurate.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 04:23 PM
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Do you think your taillights are on all the time like your DRL are? Stand behind your car sometime.

As for rain, in my state, GA: Every vehicle upon a highway within this state at any time from a half-hour after sunset to a half-hour before sunrise and at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights, and illuminating devices as required in this part for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions with respect to parked vehicles as stated in this part.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 04:43 PM
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So you leave the headlights and wipers on auto. If it gets dark, the lights turn on. If it rains, the wipers operate which turns on the headlights...including tail lights.

And the Georgia Title 40 statute you copied and pasted applies to headlights. Georgia has no regulation concerning headlights on when wipers are activated. But whatever....I didn't come here to argue with you.
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 04:49 PM
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A "best practice" is to always have the wipers OFF. That way they won't take the first swipe on an abrasive windshield at the first drop detected.
Then, as you expect rain or mist, use the squirt and wipe function to clean things, then set to Intermittent.

The rear wiper is also a catch point for dirt, sand and dust - it parks there. Lift the blade from time to time to release the dirt before wiping.
Every time I fill the gas tank, I squeegee the front and back windows at a minimum. Sometimes the headlights and side windows. But in addition, I almost always squeegee the wiper blades, front(and back on a couple of cars I have owned). I imagine that gives the windshield a much better chance of staying pristine longer.

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Do you think your taillights are on all the time like your DRL are? Stand behind your car sometime.

As for rain, in my state, GA: Every vehicle upon a highway within this state at any time from a half-hour after sunset to a half-hour before sunrise and at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights, and illuminating devices as required in this part for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions with respect to parked vehicles as stated in this part.
Georgians must not see well when it's raining. I can, unless it's raining cats and dogs.
OTOH, what you posted doesn't apply to taillights.

All my lights come on when a storm is dark enough. Nothing I'll worry about.

Did the police use "lights not on in the rain" to stop you because of some other suspicious activity?
Chicago's Finest once stopped me for taillight out (it wasn't) hoping for a bribe (I didn't). Back when you actually had to activate a switch....
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Every time I fill the gas tank, I squeegee the front and back windows at a minimum. Sometimes the headlights and side windows. But in addition, I almost always squeegee the wiper blades, fromt(and back on a couple of cars I have owned). I imagine that gives the windshield a much better chance of staying pristine longer.
Good practice.
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Old Feb 27, 2025 | 09:32 AM
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So you leave the headlights and wipers on auto. If it gets dark, the lights turn on. If it rains, the wipers operate which turns on the headlights...including tail lights.

And the Georgia Title 40 statute you copied and pasted applies to headlights. Georgia has no regulation concerning headlights on when wipers are activated. But whatever....I didn't come here to argue with you.
Headlights on when raining is the law, and "auto" doesn't always turn the headlights on when it's raining. I don't see why this is so complicated for you to understand.
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Every time I fill the gas tank, I squeegee the front and back windows at a minimum. Sometimes the headlights and side windows. But in addition, I almost always squeegee the wiper blades, front(and back on a couple of cars I have owned). I imagine that gives the windshield a much better chance of staying pristine longer.
Are you using the public ones located near the pumps? Will it scratch the windshield depending on what vehicles it was used on?
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Headlights on when raining is the law, and "auto" doesn't always turn the headlights on when it's raining. I don't see why this is so complicated for you to understand.
There must be more to the statute, because that's not what is conveyed by the part that you quoted.

I read the part "at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead" as addressing illumination ahead - ability to see an object, not being seen.

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Are you using the public ones located near the pumps? Will it scratch the windshield depending on what vehicles it was used on?
Yes. I get the squeegee fully immersed in the water/solution I get as much of that solution onto the window, so that it can drip down and start to wash off loose particles. Then I use the sponge side top to bottom, to loosen anything left sticking, especially the bugs. Then I use the blade wise to dry the window. I am assuming the blade side is the one that will cause the most scratches if there is still contaminants left on the windshield. So I try to get all the contaminants free beforehand.
I am sure some minimal amount of scratching takes place, as it’s not a sterile environment, but less scratching as if I left the windshield as is then ran the wipers. Much less in my estimation.
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There must be more to the statute, because that's not what is conveyed by the part that you quoted.

I read the part "at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead" as addressing illumination ahead - ability to see an object, not being seen.
at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights

The word "and" mean anything to you? When it's raining AND any other time. The "when it's raining" stands alone. There are signs when you enter GA "lights on when raining."
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[QUOTE=schroedinger;9119237]at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights

Each state has their own statutes (laws) applying to when headlights must be on. Additional times and places other than dark (sunset to sunrise), rain, dust, construction zone, mountain roads, etc and the distance of visibility varies as well

This website made a list that may or may not be accurate

https://ultrabrightlightz.com/blogs/...nVUKlzUSMGgH6u
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at any time when it is raining in the driving zone and at any other time when there is not sufficient visibility to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of 500 feet ahead shall display lights, including headlights

The word "and" mean anything to you? When it's raining AND any other time. The "when it's raining" stands alone. There are signs when you enter GA "lights on when raining."
It's a terribly written rule. Sounds like it was written when they required automobiles to be preceded by a person on foot, carrying a lantern. Good thing they have funds to post signs to clarify the rules!

It makes no sense. All manufacturers selling cars in GA should tie their headlights to rain sensors, and I've never heard of that.

I checked the GA rules and looked for a definition of "driving zone" and found none. Headlights illuminating objects/pedestrians at 500 feet is a normal requirement in most states. Similar to NHTSA. Your car is in compliance.

Just leave your lights on Manual all the time. They go off soon after you turn the car off.
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Yes. I get the squeegee fully immersed in the water/solution I get as much of that solution onto the window, so that it can drip down and start to wash off loose particles. Then I use the sponge side top to bottom, to loosen anything left sticking, especially the bugs. Then I use the blade wise to dry the window. I am assuming the blade side is the one that will cause the most scratches if there is still contaminants left on the windshield. So I try to get all the contaminants free beforehand.
I am sure some minimal amount of scratching takes place, as it’s not a sterile environment, but less scratching as if I left the windshield as is then ran the wipers. Much less in my estimation.
That works
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Originally Posted by Lucky 777
New to me CPO 2024 GLE 450 was a dealer owned loaner with 6000 miles on it. Extremely unhappy with the rear view camera issue but am told MB is actually working on a fix. I'm not a fan of the touch controls on the steering wheel, the older physical buttons were nicer. The new MBUX 2 seems to have lost some functionality compared to the old version on my 2023 and 2020 but those two items are more of a subjective preference and not a problem with the car. The warden absolutely loves the colors so that's enough for me.
Very nice, love the color spec, congrats!

We were looking at a '25 in the same exact color on the lot, but it didn't have all the options we wanted. I completely agree with you on the steering wheel controls and MBUX! The new off-road head-up display is interesting, but it's blurry - wife says it's my eyes, but I've never had this issue with other HUD's.
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