GLE 350 vs GLE 400
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GLE 350 vs GLE 400
Went on MBUSA and they don't have a GLE 400 listed as a model to build.
Anyone have concrete differences besides standard leather on the 400 vs MB Tex and wheel style?
I have a GLE 350 being held which has Premium 3 (includes all of P1 and P2) and wondered if the GLE 400 comes standard with P 3?
The dealership has a GLE 400 besides the 350 we are holding. Price diff is $3500 MSRP.
Anyone have any ideas? Wonder why MBUSA doesn't list the 400.
Anyone have concrete differences besides standard leather on the 400 vs MB Tex and wheel style?
I have a GLE 350 being held which has Premium 3 (includes all of P1 and P2) and wondered if the GLE 400 comes standard with P 3?
The dealership has a GLE 400 besides the 350 we are holding. Price diff is $3500 MSRP.
Anyone have any ideas? Wonder why MBUSA doesn't list the 400.
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GLE 400 Discontinue in Dec 2016
GLE 400 was discontinued and replaced with the GLE 43. I do not think there is any difference between leather. On the 350 leather is an option , not sure if it is standard on a 400 or not.
The GLE 400 came with more standard features than the standard GLE350. I think the GLE400 came with the MB-Tex wrapped dash, you can see the stitching on the edges of the dash where this is an option on the GLE350. Its confusing but the MB-Tex wrapped dash can be on a 350 with or without leather seats. Also, GLE400 has more horsepower and twin turbo. Also, has the ECO feature which turns the engine off when you stop at traffic light etc.
GLE 400 probably has larger wheels. You can search this site for GLE400 and get alot of info on them.
The GLE 400 came with more standard features than the standard GLE350. I think the GLE400 came with the MB-Tex wrapped dash, you can see the stitching on the edges of the dash where this is an option on the GLE350. Its confusing but the MB-Tex wrapped dash can be on a 350 with or without leather seats. Also, GLE400 has more horsepower and twin turbo. Also, has the ECO feature which turns the engine off when you stop at traffic light etc.
GLE 400 probably has larger wheels. You can search this site for GLE400 and get alot of info on them.
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GLE400
If you buy the 400 you should get a larger discount off the price since it was discontinued last year and no longer in production.
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cars.com shows that are 2017 models Looks like the gle 400 is discountinued in the US but in other countries that the only gas model version they sell vs the AMG versions. Looks like the 400 gets slighty better fuel economy than the 350 with more hp at 329hp against the the amg gle43 369hp.
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Mercedes Benz of Greenwich is advertising it as a 2017.
http://www.mercedesbenzgreenwich.com...-15695527.html
http://www.mercedesbenzgreenwich.com...-15695527.html
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If I remember correctly, there were a few 2017 400s. The 400 does come with more standard options. It should have heated and cooled cup holders, leather was standard, more HP but smaller motor so you get better MPGs, multicolored lighting, bigger wheels, blind spot, and some more. This is all from memory and it was comparing a 2016 400 to a 2016 350 when I was buying. I'm not sure if any 400s got the 9G transmission though. I don't think they did.
If I was you, I would go for the 400 and try to negotiate BIG discounts. This car is not made anymore so use it to your advantage. You will like the peppy-ness (if that's a word) of the 400 better.
If I was you, I would go for the 400 and try to negotiate BIG discounts. This car is not made anymore so use it to your advantage. You will like the peppy-ness (if that's a word) of the 400 better.
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Look for new stock on autotrader.com. Today there are 22 new in-stock 2017 models listed within 300 miles of Greenwich. There are 2 new 2016 within 200 miles advertised. IMO you should be able to get at least 20% off MSRP.
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Curious as to why the GLE 400's are not selling. I am in queue for a 2018 GLE 350 but a local dealer has the GLE i want in a 400 model. You get smaller displacement with a 3 liter twin turbo, but you get better gas mileage, better performance and the 9 speed transmission. Is there something people dont like about the 400? There is a whole bunch of them for sale on carguru's and seems to be no demand for the 400. Im real tempted to skip my order and just get the GLE i want in the 400. Whats the drawback?
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GLE 400
I was incorrect on my first post, they did make the GLE 400 for 2017 and discontinued it and replaced it with the GLE 43, the same model year.
Since I have a ML350 and am fuzzy on all the details of the ML/GLE 400, I only know what I have seen on this site. You should do a search on GLE400 vs GLE43.
I recall two post on the 400. One having to do with the ECO switch, which shuts the engine off when you stop (to save fuel) . Owners did not like it as well as some steering sounds which seem to be particular to the 400. Again that could have been a 2016 GLC400 not a 2017 model.
Also, there was a lot of discussion on people who were going to buy a 2016 400 but had heard it was being replace by the GLE43 . Questions concern, cost of a fully loaded 400 vs GLE43, transmission etc.
I purchased a ML350 (2015) CPO last year and if I could have found a CPO 400, I probably would have gotten it. I fact, I wish I had a 2014 ML550 which was discontinued in 2014. What I do like about a 400 over 350 is the MB-Tex wrap dash with stitching, wheels , leather standard, which are all options on the 350.
One of this discussion post talked about the 350 being underpowered. I do not feel that way and find it has all the power I need even after coming from a FX37 Infiniti. The 400 only has about 10% more power and you for sure have to use premium fuel.. I only use mid grade in my ML350
Either way you can't go wrong, You would have a little more prestige over a 350 but the 43 owners would probably ask you why you didn't get a 43 vs the 400.
Good luck.
Since I have a ML350 and am fuzzy on all the details of the ML/GLE 400, I only know what I have seen on this site. You should do a search on GLE400 vs GLE43.
I recall two post on the 400. One having to do with the ECO switch, which shuts the engine off when you stop (to save fuel) . Owners did not like it as well as some steering sounds which seem to be particular to the 400. Again that could have been a 2016 GLC400 not a 2017 model.
Also, there was a lot of discussion on people who were going to buy a 2016 400 but had heard it was being replace by the GLE43 . Questions concern, cost of a fully loaded 400 vs GLE43, transmission etc.
I purchased a ML350 (2015) CPO last year and if I could have found a CPO 400, I probably would have gotten it. I fact, I wish I had a 2014 ML550 which was discontinued in 2014. What I do like about a 400 over 350 is the MB-Tex wrap dash with stitching, wheels , leather standard, which are all options on the 350.
One of this discussion post talked about the 350 being underpowered. I do not feel that way and find it has all the power I need even after coming from a FX37 Infiniti. The 400 only has about 10% more power and you for sure have to use premium fuel.. I only use mid grade in my ML350
Either way you can't go wrong, You would have a little more prestige over a 350 but the 43 owners would probably ask you why you didn't get a 43 vs the 400.
Good luck.
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"Either way you can't go wrong, You would have a little more prestige over a 350 but the 43 owners would probably ask you why you didn't get a 43 vs the 400."
Not every customer likes the AMG sound effects of the exhaust system in the GLE43, it can be fun when accelerating agressively once in a while, but on a long highway trip it will be a bit annoying for some. If I would go for a gasser instead of the diesel, I'd prefer the 400 engine with the refined and silent MB sound. In my opinion many noisy-exhaust-likers go for BMW instead of MB because of BMW's generally sportier performance, engines, transmission and suspension.
Not every customer likes the AMG sound effects of the exhaust system in the GLE43, it can be fun when accelerating agressively once in a while, but on a long highway trip it will be a bit annoying for some. If I would go for a gasser instead of the diesel, I'd prefer the 400 engine with the refined and silent MB sound. In my opinion many noisy-exhaust-likers go for BMW instead of MB because of BMW's generally sportier performance, engines, transmission and suspension.
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Go for the 400. Nice and quiet. Very efficient engine. My neighbor has two GLE 43s. They are extremely loud. Not my cup or tea.
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No pickup truck for me. My neighbor who has the two 43s also has a S550 Cabrio and a coupe. The closest thing he has to a pickup is a Sprinter for his Business.
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I've been looking for one for my GLE. I like the overhead one better and I get free shipping! (I'm not in Texas but I am in the gun loving south.)
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More than you wanted to know concerning GLE400, AMG 43, etc.
Here's my story, and with it, you can see some of the differences you may have been looking for concerning the GLE 350 vs GLE 400 vs GLE 43 AMG. Last fall we were thinking of getting a GLE 400 vs. a GLE 350, mainly due to the increased horsepower and torque. Besides the engine, the main difference at that time was that on the 400, leather was standard, and the P1 package was included. Well, due to this forum we heard that if we waited until January (2017), the 2017 AMG GLE 43 would be coming out. So we decided to wait. Yes, it was out in January, and the difference between that and the 2016 GLE 400 was the AMG GLE 43 increased in price, and leather was NOT included. The total difference in price was about $3250 more, as I recall, if leather was ordered. Same engine block as the GLE400, but due to an AMG chip, the HP Increased from 340 to 362. Also, now the mufflers have speaker in them, so sound is quite loud. Since the vehicle is AMG-tuned, suspension is an adjustable air-matic suspension, 9-speed transmission (earlier 400s are 7-spd).
So, anyway, things came up, got another car, so put off purchasing the AMG 43 SUV, and then someone on the forum indicated that production had stopped in April for the AMG 43 2017 and ordering would resume on 5/15/17 for the 2018 AMG 43 SUV. We received the ordering guide for the 2018 model from the dealer and it looks like same options, but I will need to get in touch with MBUSA to find out for sure. There are rumors that the engine HP has increased on this one and body has changed.
I also have a pretty detailed list of differences in standard features between the AMG 43 SUV and the GLE 350 SUV if this is if any interest.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the GLE400 and resale is not a big deal, and you can get a good price on one, and it hasn't sat on the lot too long (yes, that always is a factor, due to tires, seals, etc. being stagnant), than maybe the GLE400 may be for you. You can save some money and honestly there wasn't a big difference in performance from the 340 to 362 HP - I only noticed not as much of a turbo-lag at low-speeds on the AMG model. Being used to 8-cylinder engines, we aren't really considering the GLE 350, but who know, things could change.
So, anyway, things came up, got another car, so put off purchasing the AMG 43 SUV, and then someone on the forum indicated that production had stopped in April for the AMG 43 2017 and ordering would resume on 5/15/17 for the 2018 AMG 43 SUV. We received the ordering guide for the 2018 model from the dealer and it looks like same options, but I will need to get in touch with MBUSA to find out for sure. There are rumors that the engine HP has increased on this one and body has changed.
I also have a pretty detailed list of differences in standard features between the AMG 43 SUV and the GLE 350 SUV if this is if any interest.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the GLE400 and resale is not a big deal, and you can get a good price on one, and it hasn't sat on the lot too long (yes, that always is a factor, due to tires, seals, etc. being stagnant), than maybe the GLE400 may be for you. You can save some money and honestly there wasn't a big difference in performance from the 340 to 362 HP - I only noticed not as much of a turbo-lag at low-speeds on the AMG model. Being used to 8-cylinder engines, we aren't really considering the GLE 350, but who know, things could change.
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I was at my local MB dealer getting a service done on my GLE 550e and the salesman who sold me the car told me that the GLE400 was being discontinued because the 400 doesn't compare to the GLE550e when performance, economy and pricing (rebate factors here) is discerned. Could be the salesman just trying to keep me happy about my 550e decision.
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I was at my local MB dealer getting a service done on my GLE 550e and the salesman who sold me the car told me that the GLE400 was being discontinued because the 400 doesn't compare to the GLE550e when performance, economy and pricing (rebate factors here) is discerned. Could be the salesman just trying to keep me happy about my 550e decision.
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I was told that the GLE 400 was dropped because of its comparisons to the GLE 550e within the model line. The models closely compare with each other and the 400 wouldn't sell well where it was positioned.
The reasons being,
The GLE 400 has the same motor as the GLE 550e (minus electric).
The 550e has better fuel economy and is rated faster at 0-60.
The price between the 400 & 550e was virtually the same.
Which model would people pick due to these comparisons?
I think MB was trying to figure out the spot where the 400 model would fit for them. Neither the 400 or the 550e had a whole lot of production in 2016/17.
Ultimately MB dropped the GLE 400 in favor of the GLE 43. With more power, the GLE 43 was selected to fit a spot MB wanted with enough separation between the GLE 400/550e models to market more effectively. I think that MB figured this out and will sell many more GLE 43's than GLE 400's.
Funny thing is, The GLE 550e still has faster 0-60 & 1/4 mile times than the GLE 43. There are other differences - biggest one being the GLE 43 is considered an AMG model - which has a big impact on the peoples decisions when buying these vehicles.
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(But a huge difference I had to consider was the towing. The 550E was very low and the GLS was not that much more for the price difference. But I am shocked at how well a little 3.0 tows so much.)
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"Not every customer likes the AMG sound effects of the exhaust system in the GLE43, it can be fun when accelerating aggressively once in a while, but on a long highway trip it will be a bit annoying for some."
I don't like noisy car exhausts.I have a GLE43.I leave it in Comfort mode.The vehicle is NOT noisy.
I don't like noisy car exhausts.I have a GLE43.I leave it in Comfort mode.The vehicle is NOT noisy.
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