2012 Headlight washers: Useless by M-B design
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2012 Headlight washers: Useless by M-B design
On the 2010 & 2011 models, the headlight washers could be activated when the car was started and again 10 wash cycles later. Stupid but manageable.
For 2012, the headlight washers only work after 10 windshield wash cycles. Intolerable. Idiotic. Useless. Worthless. What are these people thinking? Has anyone else brought this to the attention of their dealer? Has it been corrected? Thanks.
Wayne
For 2012, the headlight washers only work after 10 windshield wash cycles. Intolerable. Idiotic. Useless. Worthless. What are these people thinking? Has anyone else brought this to the attention of their dealer? Has it been corrected? Thanks.
Wayne
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Yeah I was wondering about that. On my ML there is an on demand button for this. Yet when I read the manual for my to be built on Feb 6th GLK it says only after 10 sprays with headlamps on.
Was planning on teaching the wife to pump 10 times really fast to trigger the spray.
Was planning on teaching the wife to pump 10 times really fast to trigger the spray.
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Yeah I was wondering about that. On my ML there is an on demand button for this. Yet when I read the manual for my to be built on Feb 6th GLK it says only after 10 sprays with headlamps on.
Was planning on teaching the wife to pump 10 times really fast to trigger the spray.
Was planning on teaching the wife to pump 10 times really fast to trigger the spray.
I'm on a quest. On demand or MBUSA gets it back.
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mine works fine except I don't really see the point of it being useful. When do you think it will be useful anyway?
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Your 2011 is set up differently than the 2012 version. You can wash your headlights when you first start the car. The 2012 version has a new feature: You can only wash your headlights after 10 cycles of the wash with fluid for the windshield. I doubt that I use the washer 10 times a month. Therefore, the headlight washer is a P.I.T.A. to activate. My SA agrees with me and is checking in to a fix. Stay tuned.
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When your headlight cover gets covered in slush, dirt, bugs, crud, etc. & the output from the lights are diminished. It has happened to me. The only thing available at the time was snow which I gathered from the side of the Autobahn south of Frankfurt, Germany. Not fun at all.
Your 2011 is set up differently than the 2012 version. You can wash your headlights when you first start the car. The 2012 version has a new feature: You can only wash your headlights after 10 cycles of the wash with fluid for the windshield. I doubt that I use the washer 10 times a month. Therefore, the headlight washer is a P.I.T.A. to activate. My SA agrees with me and is checking in to a fix. Stay tuned.
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Your 2011 is set up differently than the 2012 version. You can wash your headlights when you first start the car. The 2012 version has a new feature: You can only wash your headlights after 10 cycles of the wash with fluid for the windshield. I doubt that I use the washer 10 times a month. Therefore, the headlight washer is a P.I.T.A. to activate. My SA agrees with me and is checking in to a fix. Stay tuned.
Wayne
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When your headlight cover gets covered in slush, dirt, bugs, crud, etc. & the output from the lights are diminished. It has happened to me. The only thing available at the time was snow which I gathered from the side of the Autobahn south of Frankfurt, Germany. Not fun at all.
Your 2011 is set up differently than the 2012 version. You can wash your headlights when you first start the car. The 2012 version has a new feature: You can only wash your headlights after 10 cycles of the wash with fluid for the windshield. I doubt that I use the washer 10 times a month. Therefore, the headlight washer is a P.I.T.A. to activate. My SA agrees with me and is checking in to a fix. Stay tuned.
Wayne
Your 2011 is set up differently than the 2012 version. You can wash your headlights when you first start the car. The 2012 version has a new feature: You can only wash your headlights after 10 cycles of the wash with fluid for the windshield. I doubt that I use the washer 10 times a month. Therefore, the headlight washer is a P.I.T.A. to activate. My SA agrees with me and is checking in to a fix. Stay tuned.
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Interesting. You are correct. The 2011 & 2012 manuals say the same thing. I know I read somewhere that you could wash the headlights after starting & then again 10 washes later. Must be 2010. No worries. I will be a pest at MBUSA until we get this changed. Stay tuned.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH! It is more worser than I thought. Volvo has a similar system. With TWO important differences.
is washed. Thereafter, the headlights
will only be washed once for every
five times the windshield is washed within
a 10-minute period.
five times the windshield is washed. Normal
Squirt often.
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High-pressure headlight washing*
High-pressure headlight washing consumes a
large quantity of washer fluid. To save fluid, the
headlights are washed using two alternatives:
• High-pressure headlight washing consumes a
large quantity of washer fluid. To save fluid, the
headlights are washed using two alternatives:
Low/high beam headlights on.The headlights
will be washed the first time the windshieldis washed. Thereafter, the headlights
will only be washed once for every
five times the windshield is washed within
a 10-minute period.
•
Parking lights on. Optional Active Bending
Lights will be washed once for everyParking lights on. Optional Active Bending
five times the windshield is washed. Normal
halogen headlights will not be washed.
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Either that or just flip a few switches in the software to reduce the number of "fake" windshield squirts.
Obviously, nobody in Der Faterland has experienced the twice per summer invasion of the dreaded southern love bugs. It is possible for those little beasties to cover the front of a vehicle in a few miles. Then their remains eat through your paint.
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Obviously, nobody in Der Faterland has experienced the twice per summer invasion of the dreaded southern love bugs. It is possible for those little beasties to cover the front of a vehicle in a few miles. Then their remains eat through your paint.
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Either that or just flip a few switches in the software to reduce the number of "fake" windshield squirts.
Obviously, nobody in Der Faterland has experienced the twice per summer invasion of the dreaded southern love bugs. It is possible for those little beasties to cover the front of a vehicle in a few miles. Then their remains eat through your paint.
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Obviously, nobody in Der Faterland has experienced the twice per summer invasion of the dreaded southern love bugs. It is possible for those little beasties to cover the front of a vehicle in a few miles. Then their remains eat through your paint.
Wayne
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If you are doing a rally or your everyday trip is on a mud and dust prone area then yes I will say it is useful but for the rest of us it is one feature that we wish was just taken out and a different feature that tends to be more useful (like a sunglass holder) is put on the car.
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Visit the southern USA. Say 100 miles either side of I-10 between Jacksonville & Houston. May or September. Drive through the Plague of the Love Bugs. You'll understand. Follow some big trucks in January on the Autobahn along the Rhine River in fog/snow/slush/road material to counteract snow or slush. You'll understand. Or for the best reason: I paid for them. They are there. I want to use them at my discretion. How hard is that to understand? Imagine turning on a TV set. Selecting your favorite program and getting a message: Sorry. You can't watch this program until you view 10 episodes of Oprah. Or turning on the Audio system in your GLK. Selecting your favorite music. "Sorry. This music is unavailable at this time. Come back later."
You don't get it. That's fine. I understand.
I get it. I want it. I want it when I choose. Not when some programming person decides it is ok for me to have it.
'Nuff said. Moving on. Draining my washer reservoir in the process.
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You don't get it. That's fine. I understand.
I get it. I want it. I want it when I choose. Not when some programming person decides it is ok for me to have it.
'Nuff said. Moving on. Draining my washer reservoir in the process.
Wayne
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Visit the southern USA. Say 100 miles either side of I-10 between Jacksonville & Houston. May or September. Drive through the Plague of the Love Bugs. You'll understand. Follow some big trucks in January on the Autobahn along the Rhine River in fog/snow/slush/road material to counteract snow or slush. You'll understand. Or for the best reason: I paid for them. They are there. I want to use them at my discretion. How hard is that to understand? Imagine turning on a TV set. Selecting your favorite program and getting a message: Sorry. You can't watch this program until you view 10 episodes of Oprah. Or turning on the Audio system in your GLK. Selecting your favorite music. "Sorry. This music is unavailable at this time. Come back later."
You don't get it. That's fine. I understand.
I get it. I want it. I want it when I choose. Not when some programming person decides it is ok for me to have it.
'Nuff said. Moving on. Draining my washer reservoir in the process.
Wayne
You don't get it. That's fine. I understand.
I get it. I want it. I want it when I choose. Not when some programming person decides it is ok for me to have it.
'Nuff said. Moving on. Draining my washer reservoir in the process.
Wayne
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On the 2010 & 2011 models, the headlight washers could be activated when the car was started and again 10 wash cycles later. Stupid but manageable.
For 2012, the headlight washers only work after 10 windshield wash cycles. Intolerable. Idiotic. Useless. Worthless. What are these people thinking? Has anyone else brought this to the attention of their dealer? Has it been corrected? Thanks.
Wayne
For 2012, the headlight washers only work after 10 windshield wash cycles. Intolerable. Idiotic. Useless. Worthless. What are these people thinking? Has anyone else brought this to the attention of their dealer? Has it been corrected? Thanks.
Wayne
Standing by to hear from Tech Support at MBUSA. Like that will do some good.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Isn't the point of the post to figure out a work-around or get MB to change it so that you CAN get it to work when you need it too??? The fact that you paid for it, as you wrote, might lead one to think you would want it "fixed" even more.
FYI... Saabs and Mercedes also had headlamp wiper/washers. My experience is they worked quite a bit better than any washer only system. Under the "right" weather conditions your headlamp light output can be cut to truly unsafe levels in a matter of seconds. Wipers take care of that. You don't see them anymore because of the multitude of integrated and oddly shaped headlamp designs - not because they didn't work.
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W463 G550 / C190 GTC //prev: W204 C63 507 / R170
I have a 2015MY W204, and my manual says 5 cycles. However, it doesn't work! Tried it several times and have never seen the washers work.
My dealer's service manager said it's now speed dependent as well...
My dealer's service manager said it's now speed dependent as well...