Necessary to put on Snow Tires on GLS?
In Canada, snow tires seem to be a must. Especially you'll get a discount on car insurance with them installed.
But some guy told me that GLS is heavy therefore snow tires are not really necessary? Any inputs folks? thanks |
Originally Posted by MBinCanada
(Post 6689471)
In Canada, snow tires seem to be a must. Especially you'll get a discount on car insurance with them installed.
But some guy told me that GLS is heavy therefore snow tires are not really necessary? Any inputs folks? thanks |
In Ontario, you can get 5-8% discount on your insurance premium if you put on snow tires this years. This is applicable to most insurance companies.
Originally Posted by Andrew Cho
(Post 6689633)
I have never heard of being entitled to discounts for having winter tires on. Your insurance premium is usually reflected by your driving record, not by the tires you put on, especially winter tires that are only good for a few months of the year. Perhaps, it is something that certain insurance companies are doing to gain more customers. Anyhow, we probably get the most amounts of snow here in Alberta. This can make us, Albertans, experts when it comes to winter driving. I would personally say you do not need winter tires for vehicles that are as heavy as the GLS. Plus, it is all wheel drive.
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Originally Posted by MBinCanada
(Post 6689660)
In Ontario, you can get 5-8% discount on your insurance premium if you put on snow tires this years. This is applicable to most insurance companies.
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As far as I know, since 2015, maybe even earlier, if you call your insurance company that you will get snow tires, you'll get this discount when renewing your insurance policy.
This might not be applicable in the past. But this is well known now in Ontario.
Originally Posted by Andrew Cho
(Post 6689802)
I was born in Mississauga and raised in Oakville but I had never known or heard of that. I would say that is pretty cool. Have you looked into a winter tire package from your dealer? For my wife's BMW 5 series, it was like $4500 for a winter tire package from the dealer. I am not sure how much Benz charges. If I get to save 5% on a $1000/year insurance premium, I am saving $50/year. I am not sure if that is beneficial enough to purchase a package for $4000 plus, besides getting a better grip of course.
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Originally Posted by MBinCanada
(Post 6689944)
As far as I know, since 2015, maybe even earlier, if you call your insurance company that you will get snow tires, you'll get this discount when renewing your insurance policy.
This might not be applicable in the past. But this is well known now in Ontario. |
Originally Posted by 1st amg
(Post 6690277)
I heard the same, as well as in Quebec. I would get snows, I have never driven any of the GL product without a designated winter tire. There is a very noticeable difference in driving without snows in the snow, ice and cold. I would never jepordize my family's safety for a few thousand dollars in tires, relative to the cost of this vehicle. The weight of a vehicle has no bearing on its performance in the snow, in fact all of our company trucks have winters , and let me tell you again, the difference in driving performance is massive.
something i noticed: all the vehicles i've seen on display at auto shows appear to have p-zeros fit on the 21" rim option for the 350 and also the standard rim on the 550 (also a 21"). at the press outing in december when the vehicles were being put through the paces in snowy terrain i'm sure the vehicles had winter tires on them, but interesting, nonetheless, that the cars on display that i have seen have had p-zeros and not some other semi all season tire. |
Any recommended rims for the snows?
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Originally Posted by 1st amg
(Post 6690277)
I heard the same, as well as in Quebec. I would get snows, I have never driven any of the GL product without a designated winter tire. There is a very noticeable difference in driving without snows in the snow, ice and cold. I would never jepordize my family's safety for a few thousand dollars in tires, relative to the cost of this vehicle. The weight of a vehicle has no bearing on its performance in the snow, in fact all of our company trucks have winters , and let me tell you again, the difference in driving performance is massive.
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Winter tires are an absolute must...I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta SUV8 studded (4 corners) on my 2 girls/wife and my (total 4) vehicles and just threw away a two year old set (4) of Pirelli Snow and Ice after replacing with these Nokians on my ML..garbage and what a difference..after 2 close calls not being able to stop with the Pirellis it was time to get a better winter tire...I purchased the wheels from MB and although the complete package (came with the Pirelli at the time) was not cheap if they save an accident that's good enough for me..
The old Pirelli..not great https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c48bacc944.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...16161e0bd5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2b47c4366a.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e65a28fdf7.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5ef3c24b75.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6417143136.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59c3f2a751.jpg |
It's not a matter of weight:smash:,using winter tires is a must in order to avoid accidents: traction is important but is even more important to be able to stop the vehicle while driving on muddy/snowy/rainy roads.
I can't imagine driving in winter without dedicated tires:) |
Originally Posted by Phoeny
(Post 6693223)
It's not a matter of weight:smash:,using winter tires is a must in order to avoid accidents: traction is important but is even more important to be able to stop the vehicle while driving on muddy/snowy/rainy roads.
I can't imagine driving in winter without dedicated tires:) |
Originally Posted by Nanook
(Post 6693200)
Winter tires are an absolute must...I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta SUV8 studded (4 corners) on my 2 girls/wife and my (total 4) vehicles and just threw away a two year old set (4) of Pirelli Snow and Ice after replacing with these Nokians on my ML..garbage and what a difference..after 2 close calls not being able to stop with the Pirellis it was time to get a better winter tire...I purchased the wheels from MB and although the complete package (came with the Pirelli at the time) was not cheap if they save an accident that's good enough for me..
The old Pirelli..not great https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c48bacc944.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...16161e0bd5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2b47c4366a.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e65a28fdf7.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5ef3c24b75.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6417143136.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59c3f2a751.jpg If I had an AMG, I would definitely consider winters. |
Thanks..IMO studded winters an absolute must in Alberta ..and only the best for Frank :)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b46d57a1d8.jpg |
Originally Posted by Andrew Cho
(Post 6693255)
The truth of the matter is that it does not matter how much you spend on snow tires, they will still have hard time stopping on ice unless they are studded.
Originally Posted by Andrew Cho
(Post 6693255)
Snow tires give you more traction, not stopping power. I still do not think snow tires are a must "in order to avoid accidents" because drivers without snow tires still manage to avoid accidents every winter.
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Originally Posted by Phoeny
(Post 6693789)
Ice and snow are two different things: driving on ice requires studded tires,I agree with you but on snowy roads a set of winter tires change everything: more traction and safety,it's a matter of fact and not only my personal opinion.
Probably canadians drivers are more capable:D but saying that winter tires give no stopping power is false,search on google why:y |
It has been very interesting to get your inputs on this topic. There is no doubt that winter tires improve accelerating and stopping in snow.
We, Albertans, are better skilled drivers in long winter months which is why I personally think it is not necessary to get winter tires to answer OP's question. |
Originally Posted by Andrew Cho
(Post 6694243)
It has been very interesting to get your inputs on this topic. There is no doubt that winter tires improve accelerating and stopping in snow.
We, Albertans, are better skilled drivers in long winter months which is why I personally think it is not necessary to get winter tires to answer OP's question. |
You know what Andrew? I hope I'll never be in front of your car during winter time:rolf:
Let's be serious: I was joking when I said that canadians drivers are better than others,it doesn't matter how much skilled you are if you don't have proper tires under your car; especially during an emergency stop, for example. When it comes to safety,I don't want to be misuderstood:zoom: |
Originally Posted by 1st amg
(Post 6694636)
Albertans better skilled drivers? Where do you get these statistics? Along with the other self made statistic of winter tires don't help stopping power? For someone who was born and raised in Ontario , how does the transplanted Albertan become better skilled driver than the rest of us? With all due respect, better drivers are trained and have years of driving experience on closed circuits, such as race courses , and driving at the maximum allowable limits that vehicle can. Only, hours upon hours of these types of conditions will groom you to be better than most of us.
Let's all be mature and put this dispute aside now and stay on track with the topic of the thread. I still do not think winters are necessary for GLS from my own personal experience. |
The all season Pirelli Scorpions that came with the 2015 GL450 20" wheel package are borderline useless in the snow. If the new model you are considering has the same tires, you will absolutely need a different set of tires for Candian winters.
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I quit,it's obvious you ain't open up your mind. ;)
Ciao Ps: be careful with your summer tires. |
Originally Posted by Nanook
(Post 6693200)
Winter tires are an absolute must...I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta SUV8 studded (4 corners) on my 2 girls/wife and my (total 4) vehicles and just threw away a two year old set (4) of Pirelli Snow and Ice after replacing with these Nokians on my ML..garbage and what a difference..after 2 close calls not being able to stop with the Pirellis it was time to get a better winter tire...I purchased the wheels from MB and although the complete package (came with the Pirelli at the time) was not cheap if they save an accident that's good enough for me..
The old Pirelli..not great https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c48bacc944.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...16161e0bd5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2b47c4366a.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e65a28fdf7.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5ef3c24b75.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6417143136.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59c3f2a751.jpg I have to agree, these tires are by far the best we have EVER put on any of our vehicles. I run the same tires on our GL-350 and my GLE here in Montana. |
Where do you guys buy your wheels for snow tire?
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weight of the car does little to help.. heavier does NOT mean better traction.. in snow and ice-- the heavier the more dangerous
dedicated winters are hands down superior to any driving skills.. we get plenty snow where we are and I personally dont have any issues with all seasons.. noone is a perfect driver.. we all need to be careful.. some more than others.. I'm a car guy and so maybe my skills may be different but noone is superior.. with family and kids in a car- i agree- spend the extra and get a good set of tires.. as for packages-- a winter package with any brand is gonna be pricy. its way cheaper to do it on your own.. and about the insurance-- man thats awesome! wish we had that in the US.. |
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