2019 GLS details?
 

I'm just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the 2019 GLS reconfigure. If there is already a thread on this, please point me in that direction.

Thanks

Sorry, I think I got confused after a bad, bad trip to Sweden 🇸🇪! The GLE will be new in 2019 and GLS in 2020. I reversed the two.

How do i I delete this post?

New GLS Spy Photos out
 

Although it says 2019, I think it'll be 2020....

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/09/04/...three-row-suv/

I'm curious to see what MB has in mind for the next full-redesign. The overall body size looks longer and lower to the ground.

Thanks for the link. :)

Hoping for 2nd row captain chairs and return of the diesel. I'll settle for a plug-in hybrid.

Mercedes will not be re-introducing diesel for passenger cars anytime soon - if ever - direction will be gasser-hybrid-full electric.

One of my friends owns a Porsche Cayenne Diesel and said that even after a recent cash settlement (don't know the details) the dealer is now negotiating with him to buy it back. The diesel market appears to have collapsed in the US. Is this all because of VW getting caught cheating on their emissions testing? And why is MB backing away?

One dealer I talked to said that Mercedes might have some "dreck am stecken"...which means that Mercedes might have cheated too. They stopped selling all diesel vehicles in the US including the Sprinter which was only available as diesel. Imagine how much of a loss that must be!

Diesel's are still standard in Sprinter - Mercedes diesel for passenger cars/SUV's is probably gone going forward - too much craziness with the Feds after the VW scandal - and frankly full speed ahead to more Hybrid and Ultimately Electric

Funny you should mention this.

My country has, for many years, been very big on diesel passenger cars : I think slightly over 50% of cars are diesels, some as small as 1200cc. Mainly because fuel has been over a buck a quart for a long long time (I think premium is currently hovering around a 1.80 a quart/liter) and diesel, not only being a lot more frugal, has also been traditionally cheaper.

The last two years, however, the 'green' lobby has started demonizing diesels, predominantly villifying very fine particles in diesel smoke as being responsible for everything from 'a large uptick in pulmonary afflictions with young children (works every time) to...well everything you can think of.
Politicians, of course eager to capitalize on this, are producing all manner of plans to reduce the use of diesel in favor of gas and hybrid cars, and it's been working : for the first time in decades diesel sales are in decline in favor of gas and hybrids. Hybrids, of course being supported by tax exemptions.

Only yesterday warnings started going out by 'some organizations' that the CO2 reductions we've been experiencing for the last few years have been slowing down, nae, CO2 is going up again, and this mainly (you guessed it) because of the rise in gas powered engines in favour of diesels. It was menioned that the CO2 targets for 2020 (whatever those are) will not be met.
In the next item it was mentioned that after the latest slew of budgetary corrections, our (many) governments have decided to start dialling back the tax benefits for hybrids.

I wonder what they'll come up with on your end.

Only in the US. As you know MB has a new 6 in-line 313 hp diesel engine that is already in the S class, and that is going to be on the new GLE next year or whenever they release it. I'm by chance in the US now and wonder how the govenment is so worried about the emissions of Euro 6 diesels but lets all 8 and 10 cylinder Dodge and Chevy trucks with 5-6litres displacement and technology from the early 90's on the road. And there are plenty of them, imagine what it is in rural areas.

The pick up trucks and commercial vehicles (in the US) have different emissions standards than a passenger vehicle. MB seems to have pulled out of the diesel market here completely for passenger cars and suv's while BMW is going full steam ahead. You can get a 3 series, 5 series, and X5 all with the diesel.

So it's more a strategy of the vehicle producer than a problem with selling diesels. The MB V6 engine is great though!

I don't know. I would say it is more of the manufacturer seeing enough profitably (how many diesels they will sell) to bring them over here compared with the costs to meet US emission standards as well as the costs w/ fed certification.

Yes - model year 2019 will be GLS changeover - just returned from dealer meeting where that was verbally confirmed.

That said - it seems 2018 GLS US production and inventory will be kept "very tight" as compared to 2017 - Mercedes portrays that as smart thinking - personally I think non-US export markets especially to Asia have been booming.

You may not have the full 12in LCD screen from the S-Class - but new gen will have NTG 5.5 found in the 2018 E-Class and 2018 S-Class with expanded features and much expanded voice control.

"Might" be earlier introduction than normal Aug 1st wave.

Dealers will have more info March/April timeframe.

Thanks for the latest info Fab. Can't wait to see what MB has in store.

I couldnt wait another whole year or more, I just pulled the ttigger on a fully spec'd 2018 S550. The only option I left out was the offroad package given that I have no need for low gear mountain crawling capacity. Im also pretty certain that the wonderful V8tt will not be available on the next gen so it was now or never.

Hello, new user here. I was planning on ordering a 2018 GLS but I hear the new model may come out next year. However, the spy shots of both the GLE and GLS in their camouflaged form seem to tell a different story.

The latest GLS spy shots still show heavy body cladding, which is identical to what the GLE looked like at the same time last year. The present GLE camouflage is lighter and reveals more body contours, which would indicate it is much closer to a debut. The fact that Mercedes has only recently begun testing the GLS in the open and its early stage heavy cladding has me wondering whether it will actually debut next year. I've added some relevant images below.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7d50949164.jpg
GLS- Oct 2017

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...82ebd62328.jpg
GLE - July 2016

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7764a922dc.jpg
GLE- Mar 2017

Welcome to the forum asterix01. Of course nothing is official yet about the X167 but fabbrisd1 has a solid track record with regard to future models. Think of him as a MB insider. And if you re-read his post, he just came from a dealer meeting so he is sharing what he and others at that meeting were told. He doesn't post Internet rumors or things he heard from a guy. I'm not saying you shouldn't order a 2018, it's a great SUV, so the best to you on your next purchase regardless of your decision.

Hi JoeMa, thx for the welcome. I read fabbrisd1's post, and he is probably accurate on this, which is what had me questioning whether there is any significance to the difference in body cladding between the two models. Perhaps, someone can provide some insight on that. Right now, I would prefer to wait if the debut is only a few months away, as I have some reservations on the present GLS's level of interior luxury.

Some Internet gossip so take it with a grain of salt. Jives with Fab's earlier post: https://www.motor1.com/news/179058/2...des-gls-spied/

Based on the company’s flexible MHA platform that’s going to be used by the next generation GLE as well, the new GLS will shave off a serious amount of weight despite the fact it is going to be slightly bigger than the current model. The architecture will also allow Mercedes to integrate some semi-autonomous systems and functions derived from the E-Class and S-Class. As far as the power trains are concerned, expect to see a wide range of four-, six-, and eight-cylinder diesel and gasoline engines, with the most popular of them expected to be the inline-six units. They will be offered in both Europe and the United States, and will be mated exclusively to a nine-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox and a 4Matic all-wheel drive. The biggest news here is the rumored hybrid version, which will combine a 3.0-liter gas engine and an electric motor for a total output of well over 400 horsepower (298 kilowatts). Of course, there’s also going to be at least one proper AMG variant getting its power from the brand’s 4.0-liter biturbo V8.

...the all-new second generation GLS will arrive sometime in 2019.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...76e12f5bf5.png

This closeup suggests a dual electronic display also mentioned in Fab's post.

The GLE will arrive next year as a 2019 model for sure. The GLS will probably be a 2020 model, according to my dealer who, of course, was motivated to sell me an 18 GL 550. I bit on the scuttlebutt since my trade in is racking up miles quickly and ordered a fully loaded one with essentially every option save the offroad package. I would have loved to get a revised model which will most definitely have the twin screen system but I cant wait another year and a half or two. The 550 is freaking awesome as is aside from its somewhat dated interior.

Your dealer was full of sales sh*t - he knows the next gen GLS is 2019 model launch,, and as a matter of fact your dealer was also already told 2018 production will be tightened back 25%-30% to allow smoother a la no excess inventory for generation changeover... December production has already been "locked down" ... starting January 1st decade ALL dealers will be getting 25%-30% fewer 2018 GLS's than same time last year for 2017's...

Fab - Am I reading it correctly that as a 2019 model year, the GLS will be delivered to customers late 2018? If that’s correct then order banks should open March / April of 2018??

As you discover new details about the 2019 GLS X167, please post them here. Include links to any articles.

Some good pics toward the end of this thread,
https://www.germancarforum.com/threa...r.51984/page-3

Two tech features I'm hoping MB supports in the new X167 is wireless charging and wireless CarPlay. The new BMW M5 supports both. Check out this video, it's an iPhone X review but skip to 15:00 to see what I'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvVKnC6gGtg&feature=youtu.be

Wireless Qi charging yes - wireless CarPlay not known yet. Apple has really always played a heavy hand with Mercedes on integration from the start... hasn't ever been chummy..

Gosh I hope you’re wrong on wireless CarPlay. Specially since BMW already has it on a couple of models.
Thanks for all the insight. Pls keep’em coming!

Neurobit

2019 GLS X167 spotted again: http://performancedrive.com.au/2019-...rm-video-0711/

Here's to hoping that the fantastic new G-class interior will make its debut in the redesigned GLS with the dual large screens!

No doubt. That interior looks gorgeous.

That is virtually guaranteed.

I think it's horrendous, and I don't understand people's fascination with a videogame machine in what is supposed to be the ultimate go everywhere tool. If a bit falls over or a screen cracks when you're out there you're completely in the dark. It's ****e.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...27db7c2c22.jpg

OK so I'm definitely not an artist and have no Photoshop skills but I wanted to see the new GLS in color and this was the best I could do. What do you think (no not about my artist skills).

Hate to break this to you, but all modern vehicles are computer controlled.
Now sure how the screen would get cracked. Does that happen to you often? If so, this is not the vehicle for you.

I love the new look.You don't. We can agree to disagree. If everyone liked the same things the world would be a very boring place.

Neurobit

If the new 2019 G is any indication (just unveiled at the DAS) they should be available late summer.

Neurobit

On Edit: Mmm... Take this with a grain of salt. I would have assumed they would have something to show at the DAS just like they did with the G, which the MB rep said late summer availability for that model. Not sure about the GLS though. One can only hope. :)

Cheers.

I do not have high hopes for the MY19 GLS to be the all new model. The new G-wagon was just shown at the Detroit show. Also, in the past few years, the GLE came to market one model year before the GLS and we still have not even seen that yet. My guess, and again, this is just me, it that hopefully by the New York show, we will see the new GLE and those will hit the ground later this year. Followed by the GLS being unveiled at a show around this time next year.

I hope they bring back the WIDE fenders like they had up to 2012. That really made the truck look much meaner and impressive looking.

This is what I have to think of when I see these big wheel wells!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...08fa782e80.png

That's what the current GL550 looks like with the added fenders onto the already flat body... I'm talking about what just about every mercedes had before the newer refreshed models came out only 2-3 years ago.

One of the last models to have that wider look was the CLS, which many still say is one of the nicest looking, least ageless models.

No, the CLS does not have that look.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1e69c5407a.png

They should never have put that on the old S-Class and it turns the new Audi Q7 from a station wagon into an ugly station wagon

Yes, I said one of of the last models to have that was the CLS, last one

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...0-vfb94p8s.jpg

I'm talking about how it's done. The CLS has wide fenders but there is a clean line that looks classy. When you look at that Passat picture it looks like they extended 2- 3 inches just around the wheel cutout and that looks cheap.

2020 Mercedes GLS Resurfaces for Winter Testing in the Snow

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-the-snow.html

Coming late this year as a 2019:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-benz-gls.html

Guys, the 2019 GLS will be the same as the 2018 model. The new GLS will be a 2020 model. The GLE will be new for 2019. Not sure what the confusion is here.

M

Not necessarily so - there in MB internal "pressure" to move X166 forward "early" for 2019 model year - I don't know if anyone has noticed - but 2018 GLS's are in quite tight supply so if the trigger is pulled early the pipeline will be clean.... "should know" in about 5-6 weeks..

I am not contradicting you by any means. However, in my area (northeast), there seems to be a healthy supply of 2018's. I was doing my usual fishing around at the end of the year and lost on on two 2017 models that had a more favorable MF. For 2018's, we visited 3 different dealers that had no less than 7-10 '18 450's in stock. That's not including the 550's on hand, vehicles coming in, as well as 2 or 3 at each one being used as loaners. Even w/ the new model around the corner, I think I might still grab an '18 on a 36 month lease. By the time it's ready to go back, the "new model" craze/hype would have died down and prices return to normal (remember new C300's going for ~$600/mo when they 1st came out?).

The pro-Captain's crew got overruled - sorry

That rear wheel looks quite meaty.

Fab - on 10/21/17 you posted: "Yes - model year 2019 will be GLS changeover - just returned from dealer meeting where that was verbally confirmed." Three months later you posted: "should know in about 5-6 weeks." Mercedes would know by now if the new GLS will be released this year as 2019. And its odd that they announced the Grand Edition coming this summer if a new model is coming this fall.

Just post what I know - it was confirmed at Dealer Meeting - then went soft, not south, right after - so now it's up for final decision and "should" know 5-6 weeks... "Grand Edition" could be the "Final Edition".. we will know when we know..

Yes I know this, that is what would happen for a 2020 model. Not sure who doesn't know this.

M

You're right, we will know when we know. Thanks Fab.

hey fab, you have any additional color on why it was squashed?

i remember they gave it some consideration for the mid cycle refresh, and in the context of the x7 possibly offering a 2+2+2 configuration, i figured maybe benz would green light it for this next gen.

For what its worth, I saw this poster at the Mercedes Benz display of the Harrisburg Auto Show today:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a8ed33630.jpeg

Check out the bottom left corner:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...120537b35.jpeg

Thus the part of my post that starts with "For what its worth". Mercedes would never provide such a poster. I just thought some may find it interesting. I will say the Mercedes where the best cars at this show.

No, they did have a G but it was sold and locked. They had the new S class, the front redesign is beautiful.

I am sure Mercedes intentionally designed the "new" G-Wagen to upset you - what a joke... the G-Wagen presents it's own unique design chanllenge - since the dash is literally a "mask" for longitudinal "beam"/firewall... and yes... the G-Wagen dash is different... it is what it is....

Upset who? I love the new 2019 G wagon interior! That's how it should be. Like the new e, the w222 s class, etc. Looks great and more ergonomic than ever.

There was a $100K Range Rover at the show. I just don't understand the attraction to this SUV's. The new Velar is beautiful but way to small for my needs. I also sat in the Escalade, it's a GMC with added bling. They had the new Lexus LS there but it was behind ropes and they still didn't have pricing on it. The nicest sedan I sat in at the show (easily) was the S class. I know well Mercedes are expensive and often don't hold their value as well as some other brands, but they're just so well made.

I know what you mean. THe top line ford Explorer looks about the same :) We should meet up sometime, I'm in Harrisburg,

A few reasons people choose the Range over the GLS, but there will be fewer with the next gen if they bring the interior to where it needs to be to command the S-class designation.

The S-Class interior is superb so if the X167 approaches that level, GLS will attract new buyers for sure.

Is it possible that the regular GLS (450, 550, 63) would get a bench seat in the 2nd row and then they reserve the 2nd row captain chairs for a Maybach model?

definitely possible.

it looks like that's tthe approach bmw is taking with x7. a leaked optional equipment spec sheet leaked a while back for that vehicle and 2+2 seating was not listed as an option. appears as if it's reserved for an exclusive/premium variant of that vehicle, but we'll see.

The new S_Class will be 2021 model here in the U.S. It will debut in 2020, 7 years after the current one did. The 2019 and 2020 will be the SAME cars as today, but with an I6 replacing the V6 in the S450.

M

Maybe he is trying to show that MB is typically on a 7 year cycle which would mean no new GLS till 2020 model year if it sticks with same cycle.

A 7 year cycle may be typical for the S Class but the 1st gen GL X164 was 2007-2012, a 6 year cycle. If that's any indication, the 2nd gen GL/GLS may also be on a 6 year cycle, 2013-2018. Of course, MB can do whatever they wish and may indeed retain the current X166 for the 2019 model year. But I'm guessing 2018 will be the last GLS X166 and 2019 will be the start of the new X167. The competition coming from BMW's upcoming X7 is reason enough to get the new GLS X167 to market starting in 2019. Fiercely competitive market for large luxury SUV's.

By that logic the W164 ML also had a 6 year cycle, so does that mean the W166 ML/GLE should also be on a 6 year cycle? It's on it's 7th year already, and still no formal announcement of a W167 GLE yet.
But like you said MB can do whatever they want. Just because BMW is releasing an X7 this year doesn't mean MB has to release a new GLS this year. It could be next year they release the new GLS. MFG don't match other MFG product release same year every year. We can sit here and debate this all day long, in the end, only MB knows when they will release the X167.

It's done - Dealer Order Guides will be released "about" 3rd week March..

Anticipation is building... We're going to the NY auto show in April. I don't expect to see it there but hoping for at least some info or teaser pics.

I'm confused. Is it a new refreshed model for 2019 or same as current one? Fab's comment is vague.

See post 61

New model GLS for 2019.

https://auto.ndtv.com/news/2019-mercedes-benz-gls-class-spied-1799388

https://www.motor1.com/news/227016/mercedes-benz-gls-class-spied-bulky/

Grand edition is for later in 2018:

https://blog.caranddriver.com/new-20...enz-gls-class/

"look for the Grand Edition to arrive in dealership showrooms by mid-2018."

http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/new...icle-1.3747109

"the Grand Edition hits U.S. showrooms mid-year"

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the...ws/2100005017/

that article is consistent with all the other info floating around out there.

however, fab's post implies an imminent intro. if DOGs are available in weeks, then an intro must happen within weeks, as well.

fab what's up

Does the DOG specifically state it's for a 2019 X167 GLS, or could it possibly be for a 2019 X166 GLS? Seems if they are releasing the DOG in a month or so that there would have been a public unveiling by now.
If it's being unveiled in the 2nd half of 2018 at Frankfurt or Paris show, than that likely means it'll be released in 2019 as a 2020 MY vehicle.

Any update on this.?

This tread is becoming the most entertaining on the forum. :popcorn:

The new MBUX dash spotted in the GLE W167 tester:

https://www.motor1.com/news/228723/2...gle-spy-video/

The MBUX dash will makes it way into the GLS X167 as well.

Fab has disappeared. He posts a vague post and then disappears. Why even post anything if he wasn't planning on explaining further? My SA is saying GLS won't be released this year. Who knows what the truth is

My post was not vague ... frankly I don't have time for the conjecture-chit-chat....

Fabbrisd1 - I think we all appreciate the info. Whether is comes out as a 2019 or 2020, there isn't anything any of us can do except wait. Some try and use it for planning but again, it's a waiting game to see what the revision is like. Some may like it... others may wish to hold onto what they have.

The grand edition I think will come out soon and is just a hold over vehicle, before new one comes. I've seen other manufacturers do this mid model year.

The Grand Edition is just a new trim package. The vehicle is exactly the same.

$6,000 upcharge on a GLS450
$3,200 upcharge on a GLS550

Look for the new GLS X167 very soon as a 2019, not a 2020.

Based on what? For the next generation GLS to be a 2019 model they would need to show it next month at NYC or over the summer. They haven't even shown the new GLE yet which is older. I could see the GLE at NYC next month and the GLS at L.A. in November which would make it a early 2020 model, actually going on sale in early 2019.

M

It's being posted here on multiple occasions that the GLS will be released soon. I can't find any info on this. My SA at a big dealership in the DFW area is telling me it's not being released. Fab is posting that it is and then gets upset when I suggested his post is vague. Germancar1 is right in that how can the GLS be released before the GLE. At this point I am not sure if anyone really knows what the truth is.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...120537b35.jpeg

This was at the autoshow :)

Now this was a real chuckle...... " my SA at a big dealership in the DFW area is telling me it's not being released." ... good to know Texas plans to secede from the Union ... or maybe it's Park Place - same group that just had to rat me out to MBUSA 2yrs ago for my post's here of each newly released Mercedes SUV Dealer Order Guides - strictly to help the members on this Board .... Big Heads - No Brains - and No Passion for Mercedes....

IIRC, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the GLS was presented to the general public in the Austrian alps somewhere in 2015. It was 2016 before they were actually 'orderable' (is that a word ?) over here, and well into 2016 when the first ones were actually delivered.

Maybe they're just doing something similar again.

Pete

On the 5 pages of this thread, there's only one person posting that was actually in any of the MB meetings where features, specs, and release dates of the new GLS was discussed. MB as a corporation can do what they want, when they want with their products/vehicles. The traditional 6 or 7 year model cycle, the GLE being released before the GLS, or it being shown at an upcoming auto show before it's release are all guesses based on past practice. There is nothing binding them to continue to do the same. Only thing we can do is wait and see. We go to NYIAS every year, already have our room booked for the 1st w/e in April. I'm hoping to see or hear something by then.

to your point, there wasn't a german competitor prior to the x7.

so if they can beat the x7 to market (which it sounds like they will, given x7 will be introduced in November in production trim), i'm sure they'd prefer to

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...-wheels-123334 - lol

EDIT, Now works.

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They're guessing (might, could) and the X167 will be the 3rd gen GL/GLS, not the 2nd gen as this article incorrectly states:

"As for the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz GLS, we might have to wait until next year to meet the high-riding luxobarge, which could hit the U.S. market as a 2020 model."

Yes they are guessing, so are most of us who don't work for MB.

It is second gen GLS. First gen GLS is the current X166. There was no X164 GLS. it was GL. So they are not incorrect.

Please don't take my post personal. I was only trying to point out that the article should be taken with a grain of salt.

At this point no one knows for sure. It's all speculation. We hope the GLS will be released this year but we would have to wait and see what MB decides.

TO be a 2019 or to not be :)

Cool wheels...

digging those rims.

i wonder if they will go to some tilt forward mechanism for second row to ease ingress/egress like infiniti, vw (atlas) and others have.

that plus captains would make me very very happy...fingers crossed.

It's mindbogglingly to think of the amount of work that goes into a new model. I wonder how many different people are involved. The entire car industry is fascinating.

Yep, it's funny as in the last few weeks nothing new, no new info, but if you look on the net 99% say it's coming for 2019 model.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5d8c3cc367.jpg

The 2019 GLS will be on display at MB dealer meeting in Cabo...... DOG will is currently scheduled to be released end-Mar/mid-April...

Thanks fab, but will it be the new 3rd gen X167?

Also, I assume this means the 2019 GLS X167 will be at the NY Auto show?

There is a lot of competition, the GLS needs to be stepped up!

So mbworld GLS forum meet and greet / crash the dealer outing in Cabo? I’m in

Who would care to go to Cabo if it wasn't the new model :) I bet it is.

I've confirmed the 2019 GLS will be a NEW MODEL, but we always knew it would be, right? :)

Who confirmed it? And you're right about my question to Fab, why would dealers travel to Cabo to see the same model, D'oh.

This just hit the press - the 2019 AMG GT 4-Door which includes the new MBUX dash with touchscreen and Touchpad:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2019-mercedes-amg-gt-4-door-coupe-officially-unveiled-packs-up-to-630-hp-news?src=socialflowFBCAD&mag=cdb&dom=fb


To be shown at the Geneva Auto Show

So basically we are still at square one. When is this Cabo meeting?

We aren't at square one. I know someone going to the Cabo meeting.

I hope you are right.

+1

New GLS
 

I'm a GLE guy - didn't the W166 ML (2012) come out a year before the X166 GL (2013)? Given that the W167 has not been officially announced yet, but is imminent, I would think the 2019 GLS will be a refreshed carryover model? I wouldn't think they would bring both out at the same time.

If those fugly air vents and riculoud dash hold bar make it to the GLS, that would be a deal killer for me.

Yes - both GLE and GLS new gen at the same time - shared architecture..

I watched the video and read the article but had to laugh when it suggested the taillights are not yet production-ready. It must not have occurred to him that MB may simply be hiding the final design of the taillights under those gaudy, bug-eyed turn signals. And for him to suggest the GLS may not be ready until next year based on some hidden taillights is silly. My money is with Fab's posts.

Release date for X167
 

Despite the shared architecture, in both the last two generations the GL(S) came out the year after the ML (GLE). ML 2005, GL 2006; ML 2012, GL 2013. Correct?

That was then, this is now.

GLE vs. GLS release
 

Thanks for the feedback. I thought Mercedes would want to spread them out from a marketing perspective so they weren't "stealing each other's thunder," so to speak.

I hear what you're saying but Fab is reporting both are coming to market at the same time this time around. Lot's of competition for luxury SUV's.

There is no reason they shouldn't given that the GLS is essentially a stretched GLE, though they have promised that the GLS will be more differentiated in the new design. Personally, I see few if any faults with the present GLS, if they had kept the same vehicle with the new E class glass cockpit and a second row that could be adjusted for foot space, I would have called it a homerun!

I was told they will be available as 2020 model. Just the words from dealership, no "insider" ;)

So we still don't really know for sure. When is this Cabo meeting?

Nice. I love the look of the Panamericana grille on other MB's. It should work perfectly on the AMG GLS 63.

I like it. Don't like that article projects 63 model to be released as a 2020 model. I don't want to wait another year to replace my GL63.

Battle of the bigs:
 

Oh wow, what is that? It looks like a Cayenne mixed with an Infinity QX70. Please tell me it's not really the new Maybach SUV. It's awful!

The pic is just more Internet BS. :bsflag:

We will see the new design soon enough.

haha yeah, like most of the talk on this thread! We are all so excited about something we don't even know about!

It's too small also. It looks more like a GLE class.

C-NET's Road Show posted: "The Mercedes-Maybach SUV is expected to make its debut as a concept next month in Beijing, and then we'll see the full-production version in November in Los Angeles."

Looking forward to seeing the 2019 GLS X167 in the coming weeks, well in advance of a production Maybach GLS in Los Angeles in November.


https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/m...ra-luxury-suv/

That doesn't look all that good. Looks like few photoshop changes on to the old one

Check out the second-row headrest in one of the test mules, completely different from the current headrest:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1bffcb7cf8.png

I was thinking its a redesign due to the issues reported by many buyers with smaller children. The Maybach GLS will have captain's chairs, if your willing to take out a 2nd mortgage. :)

I still love how nothing on google still for anything recent on the 2019 GLS has popped up. With what we know, it's kinda funny. Either all the excitement is here on this forum, or as a whole, it's not a big deal :)

I thinks it points to one thing, MB is about to unveil the new GLS and they don't want any leaks. Fab's gone completely silent because he and any others invited to see it are sworn to secrecy. Look for the DOG to be available very soon. Then we will see what's coming.

i both googled and tried to crash it to no avail

Possible but not likely since it starts 3/30/18. More likely a later show.

We're going to NYIAS next weekend. Press day was yesterday and the only things MB was showing as new were the facelift and power increase on the C's, the G63, and the GT-4. As was mentioned, Fab has gone completely silent. I think that speaks volumes. True test is if in a few days he replies again to other threads but not this one. That would mean something big is coming.

Only if they get rid of the button shifter :smash:

it's interesting, i really do like what lincoln is doing these days. but i can't speak to customer satisfaction or if they have sustainable build quality. i know if i was going to go american for a big suv, i'd pick the navi over the escalade. the interior is something special, plus, the third row has a lot of room regardless of whether or not you choose the long wheelbase edition. i went to a local dealer to see a navigator in person and the guy said they wouldn't even have a demo on the lot til june or so. lincoln is selling every one they can manufacture.

i'm not sure mercedes considers lincoln competition in the mid size segment (GLE) or for the GLS, but being mindful of what interests the american shopper is something they are very committed to. excited to see what they have in store for the gle and gls.

New DOG and final update here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...errerid=117175

New GLS vs GLE
 

So, JoeMa, I guess I was right. No way Mercedes would drop both redesigned models in the same year, and the GLE is a year older.

So the suspense is over. Let's move on. Will regroup next year.

Not by a long shot. I think they're going to do the first press releases around new year, leaks probably a bit earlier. Restart the speculation around October.

Pete

GLE will probably be released this summer, non auto show event, like at the factory in AL is my guess. GLS **may** get a November introduction at the L.A. auto show.

M

Hilariously WRONG lol.

M

Still nothing??? can't believe if this isn't released soon!?

Thanks for the reply. I've just never seen a model so secret from them in a long while.

Geneva seems logical, or NY shortly thereafter. US the big market for this vehicle, and sales have tailed off something serious over here

2020 GLS
 

The 2020 V167 GLE was close. The order banks opened in early November, but there was nothing official from Daimler until September 11, and info has been slow to trickle out. There is still not pricing on all options, only a preliminary DOG & the short-run 2019 is still up on the MBUSA site.

https://www.motor1.com/news/287568/2...gls-spy-video/

Maybe MB is re-thinking their design due to the competition? :p:

NY mentioned here

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/merced...new-model-push