baobay

I am still AMAZED that LED headlights are not standard. I for one will be moving to Audi for sure. The current GLS platform is outdated inside and out.

bonboon

This vehicle is 6 yrs old (hence not automatically including LED lights). And the average buyer doesn't want them, apparently, since the GL/S sells more year after year.

If you're like I was a few years back and intrigued by the Q7, by all means check it out. Beautiful interior, no doubt. Great infotainment. Incredible vehicle. But you'll find a pretty worthless third row and a very stodgy exterior you can't do anything about, save for some aftermarket mods.

Germancar1

Just mass confusion. I don't even know how to straighten that out. You guys just don't get how this works. There were NO signs pointing to a new GLS for the 2019 MY. It was all made up based on nothing. The GLE comes first. Not sure why no one here ever got that. Of course anything could (and probably will) happen before the end of the year, but if they show a GLS in November, that will be a 2020 model. 2019 model year is HISTORY guys, it's the same truck as before.

M

Germancar1

Anything is "possible", but it's not likely. They aren't going to see a Maybach version of the NEXT GLS on sale before the regular version. There isn't going to be a Maybach version of the current GLS.

M

bonboon

M, your opinion of when the model is introduced doesn't distinguish you from about 99.9% of people opining on the subject. People in these boards, and literally nowhere else, moved their timeline forward because were encouraged by some intel that led them to believe a surprise intro was coming. This was despite the fact an intro didn't really line up with forthcoming car shows, sales trends, etc. People were hopeful for a surprise. Hope is good. No need to smugly denounce it.

Germancar1

Hope is good, I agree, but when you base that on nothing but misinformation it becomes something else. It's just basic common sense, if you know the brand. They aren't going to replace the GLS before the GLE when the GLE is older. What we had here was fake news and people that don't know anything about the industry. You guys simply didn't know what you were talking about as I and others tried to point out over and over again. One poster here even claimed that they had pictures of the next GLS, but couldn't post them. That was sheer BS otherwise why even mention it? Think. My (and some others) "opinions" are clearly distinguished from the rest because we're using the well worn practices of Mercedes and how they do things, not someone who wants a new vehicle, wishing that the new one is introduced when it's convenient for them lol, which is all this was. It now appears that the GLE and the GLS will both be 2020 models for what it's worth.

M

Ah_gl450

I never said the Maybach production model is shown before the GLS model. I said the GLS production model could be shown by end of summer 2018, and the MayBach GLS shown at LA Auto Show. GLS could launch Q2 2019 for sale, and Maybach could launch later half of 2019.

JoeMa

I understood what you were saying. There's likely more to this than we know and you could be right, we'll probably see the production X167 in a few more months. The 2019 X166 may end up being manufactured for only 1/2 a year with an early change-over to the 2020 X167. Who knows, except of course for Germancar1 (just kidding M).

Germancar1

Complete flatline at this point, doesn't matter. You aren't seeing the new GLS before the GLE and the 2019 GLE is the same as the 2018. All this guesswork is hilarious.

M

Peter R.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

bonboon

c4004matic

Wrong... Inside the GLS has the same tech as the latest C class. Mechanically the Q7 doesnt hold a candle to a GLS 550, its much slower, doesnt really sit seven, it it doesnt ride as comfortably, and it handles similarly. In fact the only thing the Q7 has better than a GLS 550 is a nicer digital instrument panel, they are simply in a different category altogether. Trust me I drove them both extensively before choosing. The Q7 is nice compared to an MDX or a Cadfilac thats about it.

JoeMa

Smart marketing from BMW of their upcoming X7:


MB best pay close attention as the X7 could result in a lot of lost customers waiting for the X167.

benzman333

mercup

For a 2019? Did they mention the build date?

JoeMa

FYI, we now know the 2019 GLS is exactly the same as the 2017 and 2018 GLS. The new redesigned GLS (code name X167) will be a 2020 model and should be available to order about a year from now. If your okay with the current exterior/interior, order away.

benzman333

nova99

so fab fabricated some ****. lol.

Nantucket

JoeMa

Fab did NOT fabricate anything. He shared insider info which we wouldn't otherwise have know about. MB simply changed their minds and delayed the release of X167 until MY20. He's a true insider that benefits this forum and he only shares what he hears. It's not his fault the plan changed.

cincy8

skw

I was at BMW's Performance Center a few weeks ago (across the street from the factory in SC). The X7 is definately ready. They had several of them out on the street and also on the track.

baobay

The Q7 does not start at $98K you cannot compare it to a 550. I have a 450 and I drove the Q7 and I can tell you it's a superior vehicle to the 450. The interior is years ahead of the GLS 450 and 550. The 550 may have a better engine but you cannot compare it to the Q7. I'll also definitely look at the upcoming X7. Looks very promising.

mercup

Certainly the electronics for the Q7 (namely the gauge cluster and heads up) is advanced as compared to the 450 or 550 (that touchpad thing is wonky to use though)...certainly the cluster is on par with the XC90. In addition the Q7 starts losing some of its very cool MMI features when you stop paying the exorbitant monthly costs (eg Google Earth, ...). The overall interior is not years ahead of the GLS...parts of the Q7 interior are a bit flimsy and the leather is not the best unless you go with the Luxury Package.

If you do go with a Q7 I would highly recommend the Air Suspension package...it comes with a pretty amazing 4 wheel steer system. If you ever find a dealer that has one (they are hard to find) say you want to test drive it...it turns super tight circles (but feels a bit disconcerting at first), turns are impressive and lane changes seem much easier.

benzman333