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Old 04-30-2018, 10:41 AM
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Our 2017 GLS450 has neen to the dealer 3 times already due to the mols issue Mercedes has been having with their Air Conditioning units in various models. We are returning the car today and claiming the Florida Lemon Law. Here is a link to a class action lawsuit MB owners have filed because of this problem. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2017/mercedes-benz-air-conditioning-odor-lawsuit.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwjJ4Y_HmuLaAhVH1oMKHbgWAOo QFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2aj3WUjA4nO0COppIB9Z1R
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Did your dealer change the cabinet filter?
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Got this on the 2017 GLS550 - they did the cleaning service once, helped, but not solved. Here in the Carolinas, Charlotte, this is a frequent need as well. When it gets bad, it is nasty. From the linked document:

The plaintiffs reference bulletins sent to dealers in 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2016, with all the bulletins describing moldy smells in numerous models.
Anyone seen a copy of this? VW had the same thing for years (still does) but had a TSB 'Technical Service Bulletin' with cleanup instructions. I'd love to see the document from MB.
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Ah yep, need to find these gems, from: https://workshop-manuals.com/mercede...tioning_vents/

Musty/moldy odor, refer to Star TekInfo document P-B-83.30/74j (or latest version) and T-B-83.30/91c (or latest version)
The 'laws of physics' comment is gold, Jerry, gold. And they (the dealers and MBUSA) wonder why we consumers have the occasional antagonistic relationship with them . . . sheesh.

Haven't found those docs - yet - it's behind an obvious paywall for MB Techs only it seems: https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

Georgia lawsuit itself, worth a quick read for the history, might help your lemon effort: https://www.lieffcabraser.com/pdf/Me...nt-Georgia.pdf

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Did u try running an ozone generator in the car for a few hours?

They are cheap on eBay
Picked one up for $100, does wonders

Just an idea.
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Did u try running an ozone generator in the car for a few hours?

They are cheap on eBay
Picked one up for $100, does wonders

Just an idea.
Do you run this while driving? Or parked/running? I'd expect you'd want to be on Max A/C with recirc going for it to be fully effective, no?
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Do you run this while driving? Or parked/running? I'd expect you'd want to be on Max A/C with recirc going for it to be fully effective, no?
Nope. I just close the doors leave it running in the car for 2 hours. Maybe turn recirc air on for a bit the run it through the ducts.
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Any updates on this? 40k miles on our 17' and summer is in full affect in Nor Cal so the AC is putting in work. I have noticed a not so pleasant aroma when turning the AC on.
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Every car I've ever had periodically when turning the car/AC on will give a bad smell for 30 seconds or so every now and then. That just kind of happens with cars sometimes. I have noticed however that the AC on the GLS is a bit of a mystery. I also notice humidity sometimes. I think it has to do with how big the car is. This is Mercedes' largest standard passenger vehicle (not including the buses and vans, etc.). I also have the 3 zone climate package which gives more vents and rear controls. Do you guys notice if it makes a difference whether or not you have that package?
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Every car I've ever had periodically when turning the car/AC on will give a bad smell for 30 seconds or so every now and then. That just kind of happens with cars sometimes. I have noticed however that the AC on the GLS is a bit of a mystery. I also notice humidity sometimes. I think it has to do with how big the car is. This is Mercedes' largest standard passenger vehicle (not including the buses and vans, etc.). I also have the 3 zone climate package which gives more vents and rear controls. Do you guys notice if it makes a difference whether or not you have that package?
I have the rear a/c option (not sure its proper name). The A/C works great in such a large car, better than I have ever had in a big SUV. I am wondering if there are two compressors or evaporators with this option. After driving in hot and humid weather, I notice water draining near the driver's side rear wheel, so there must be an evaporator in the rear.

As an aside, we also have a BMW X5 that has very poor A/C. According to the Bimmer forums, that is well known flaw.
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Originally Posted by Senatov
Every car I've ever had periodically when turning the car/AC on will give a bad smell for 30 seconds or so every now and then. That just kind of happens with cars sometimes. I have noticed however that the AC on the GLS is a bit of a mystery. I also notice humidity sometimes. I think it has to do with how big the car is. This is Mercedes' largest standard passenger vehicle (not including the buses and vans, etc.). I also have the 3 zone climate package which gives more vents and rear controls. Do you guys notice if it makes a difference whether or not you have that package?
I had a 2012 GL350 with 3 zone climate and over 115k miles and never noticed any smell. My 17' GLS450 with 40k miles does not have 3 zone climate and I notice a slight smell recently. I don't know if there is any correlation between the two, but I figured I would chime in. ??♂
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It may sound counter intuitive, but every once in a while you should run your car ac on full heat manual, fan max, all vents open. Tt dries out the evaporator and ducts and keeps mold out. If you haven't done this in a few years you may have to resort to chemically cleaning the ducts. Which is a real barsteward to do.
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My Tahoe in the Philippines has this problem when it sits for a few months.

solution is to close all the windows and run max heat for 15 minutes.

Dries out all the mold.
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Any one had a crayon like chemical smell and mainly from the back seat air conditioning? Dealer changed the cabinet filter. But it just try to cover by another aroma.
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The odor is un-evaporated moisture and if you have re cycle vents on it makes it worse when you shut the car off..
Here is how you eliminate the problem from the beginning as a tech told me decades ago. If you use the AC, a little before you shut your car down, shut the AC off and open the vents (do not keep re cycle air) on.. This will let the fresh air vents open. Even better if your car is garage kept, open the windows, which will allow the vents to fully dry of moisture. There really is no way to avoid this in any vehicle if moisture is trapped.
Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by mikey08
The odor is un-evaporated moisture and if you have re cycle vents on it makes it worse when you shut the car off..
Here is how you eliminate the problem from the beginning as a tech told me decades ago. If you use the AC, a little before you shut your car down, shut the AC off and open the vents (do not keep re cycle air) on.. This will let the fresh air vents open. Even better if your car is garage kept, open the windows, which will allow the vents to fully dry of moisture. There really is no way to avoid this in any vehicle if moisture is trapped.
Hope this helps.
Thank you so much for the advice. Will try it! It is my first Benz. It is a 'luxury' to drive it as you even do not want drive it!
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Turn on the rest feature so that the ac blows air when the car turns off.

This dries out the ac system.

If really bad, run the heating on high for a while to kill all mold.

Also change the cabin filter to the frecious plus mann filter. This is a much better allergy and mold specific combating filter

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