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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 06:22 PM
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Sold my Tesla X and just drove 300 miles home in the GLS ....

If the Tesla is a 10 .... The MB system is a 6.5 ....

Gets lost on any curves, not bad on straights , ping pong all the way,,,, distance control and braking is pretty good ...

I like that driver can make inputs to the wheel - but MB should be as good as Blue Cruise or Tesla on the highway ...

Just my $.02 ....
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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You may be using the wrong setting. It sounds like you're using Active Lane Keeping Assist (LKA) not Active Steering Assist.

The former only intervenes when you leave the lane, and the other one keeps you centered in the lane


I don't use LKA. I think it's designed for sleepy drivers. It can be pretty violent.
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
You may be using the wrong setting. It sounds like you're using Active Lane Keeping Assist (LKA) not Active Steering Assist.

The former only intervenes when you leave the lane, and the other one keeps you centered in the lane


I don't use LKA. I think it's designed for sleepy drivers. It can be pretty violent.
thanks but I am using active steering.

i think everyone should try it on a Tesla once. It’s absolutely amazing.

3 hour drive to get my GLS in the Tesla I didn’t touch the wheel once.

3 hour drive home in the GLS I had to take control probably 15 times.

it’s not terrible but needs work.

otherwise the GLS is very nice. Enjoying it 👍
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by triplenet66
thanks but I am using active steering.

i think everyone should try it on a Tesla once. It’s absolutely amazing.

3 hour drive to get my GLS in the Tesla I didn’t touch the wheel once.

3 hour drive home in the GLS I had to take control probably 15 times.

it’s not terrible but needs work.

otherwise the GLS is very nice. Enjoying it 👍
Was cruise control on?

I have never experienced any ping ponging when cruise control is on and speed has been set (car stays centered in lane and I can leave my hands off the wheel for a couple of seconds).
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EWL5
Was cruise control on?

I have never experienced any ping ponging when cruise control is on and speed has been set (car stays centered in lane and I can leave my hands off the wheel for a couple of seconds).
everything was on - I am pretty good with these steer assist systems on various vehicles... My guess is if you haven't experienced a really good system then yes the MB steering is ok... but once you see how good it can be then MB is seriously lacking ...

Tesla ran 300 miles without touching the wheel - "centered" in lane entire time - never touched a white line or lost a corner - GLS constantly hit one white line then the other , lost it on a few slight curves . It's simply inferior ... but thats ok. it worked...

All good - interior makes up for that








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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by triplenet66
thanks but I am using active steering.

i think everyone should try it on a Tesla once. It’s absolutely amazing.

3 hour drive to get my GLS in the Tesla I didn’t touch the wheel once.

3 hour drive home in the GLS I had to take control probably 15 times.

it’s not terrible but needs work.

otherwise the GLS is very nice. Enjoying it 👍
There must be something wrong with your car then.
Mine's flawless, except when the lane markers disappear, or when reflections from rain/snow confuse the cameras.

I don't think Tesla has full self driving yet. How did you do that? The only car I know of that's approved in the US for FSD is Mercedes, but only on certain locales.
The Federal law says you have to touch the wheel every minute or so, and all cars are designed with that requirement.

Follow on: I looked up the Tesla auto pilot. It's not full self-driving and you have to touch the wheel every 30 to 40 seconds. Tesla calls it "Supervised."
https://www.tesla.com/support/autopi...ed)%20Features

I can do route-based navigation, but it slows for corners a half mile before the turn, to the posted warning speed, which is probably 20 to 30 mph below what I'd normally take it. It's probably good for sightseeing but not if you want to get somewhere. It'll actually navigate me through a parking lot, including the correct direction on the one-way aisles.
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 04:13 PM
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There must be something wrong with your car then.
Mine's flawless, except when the lane markers disappear, or when reflections from rain/snow confuse the cameras.

I don't think Tesla has full self driving yet. How did you do that? The only car I know of that's approved in the US for FSD is Mercedes, but only on certain locales.
The Federal law says you have to touch the wheel every minute or so, and all cars are designed with that requirement.

Follow on: I looked up the Tesla auto pilot. It's not full self-driving and you have to touch the wheel every 30 to 40 seconds. Tesla calls it "Supervised."
https://www.tesla.com/support/autopi...ed)%20Features

I can do route-based navigation, but it slows for corners a half mile before the turn, to the posted warning speed, which is probably 20 to 30 mph below what I'd normally take it. It's probably good for sightseeing but not if you want to get somewhere. It'll actually navigate me through a parking lot, including the correct direction on the one-way aisles.
sorry if I wasn't clear. I didnt touch the wheel once for "corrections".

yes you have to touch the wheel on Tesla to show that you are paying attention .... I am not counting those on either car

The GLS I had to steer back to the center because it was hitting white lines on either side and many times it lost it completely and made me take control ....

maybe the system needs some time to calibrate ?

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Originally Posted by triplenet66
everything was on - I am pretty good with these steer assist systems on various vehicles... My guess is if you haven't experienced a really good system then yes the MB steering is ok... but once you see how good it can be then MB is seriously lacking ...

Tesla ran 300 miles without touching the wheel - "centered" in lane entire time - never touched a white line or lost a corner - GLS constantly hit one white line then the other , lost it on a few slight curves . It's simply inferior ... but thats ok. it worked...

All good - interior makes up for that

I think there's something wrong w/your car's camera calibration.

I recently replaced a front windshield and needed to pay additional for calibration for Safelite replacement. Double check if you even have OEM glass (you'll have a signature in the bottom left or right of the front windshield). If you don't have OEM glass, chances are the cameras weren't calibrated properly (if an attempt was even made)!

Edit: just noticed your sig says 2025 GLS450. Go get that calibration checked out by the dealer!

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sorry if I wasn't clear. I didnt touch the wheel once for "corrections".

yes you have to touch the wheel on Tesla to show that you are paying attention .... I am not counting those

The GLS I had to steer back to the center because it was hitting white lines on either side and many times it lost it completely and made me take control ....
I think some something's wrong.

I will comment on my active steering assist though. If I take control and steer, say to avoid something, it takes maybe a tenth of a mile while it seems to regain its composure.
It's like it explores the lane by appoaching the left line, then the right line - kind of calibrating itself. Then it's right down the middle, unless I correct it again.
It's reliable and I trust it, although I take charge in heavy traffic if there are curves ahead.

Maybe you're interrupting it before it's finished calibrating?
Or there's something wrong.
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Originally Posted by mikapen

Maybe you're interrupting it before it's finished calibrating?
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Possibly. It was fine on straight runs. only few hundred miles on it so it could be calibration. lets see

Other than that its really nice vehicle !!

Nice to have a luxurious interior again - the Tesla X was less than desirable. but it was a rocket and handled like a sports car
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Possibly. It was fine on straight runs. only few hundred miles on it so it could be calibration. lets see

Other than that its really nice vehicle !!

Nice to have a luxurious interior again - the Tesla X was less than desirable. but it was a rocket and handled like a sports car
"Calibrate" might not be the most appropriate term. Maybe "exploring" would be better.
It only takes a tenth of a mile, and only after I've overridden the automatic steering. It's like it loses confidence for a few seconds. 🤔
Not like calibrating the entire system.

If it takes a quarter mile to find its way, maybe you have a camera that needs calibration.

I hated my wife's GLC automatic steering, because I felt like I had to keep "herding" it back into the lane.
I quit being it's Nanny, and now it steers just as well as my GLE.
Same thing - every time I made a correction, like that box that fell off the truck two lanes over, which I swerved around, it also had to kind of "rethink" things.

Keep us posted and good luck.
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Tesla's latest update to their FSD software is quite good. I saw a recent video review of it. Very impressed with what they are able to do with only cameras. But since they only use cameras, I would never trust their system as much as I would with Mercedes which uses cameras and radar. Their FSD software might be superior to Mercedes at the moment but they will never lead in the long run without radar and lidar. Chinese companies like Huawei (not even a big EV company like BYD) already have FSD software that meets or beats Tesla in just a few years (with inferior chips) so it's no doubt that other makes will catch up.

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Drove 500+ miles home from Virginia yesterday in my 20 GLS450 on I-81 and I-40 and did not have the ping pong experience you did. Vehicle was very smooth, even in the periodic rain.

My biggest surprise was getting Premium 93 gas at Buc-ee's in Crossville, TN for $2.99.
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Drove 500+ miles home from Virginia yesterday in my 20 GLS450 on I-81 and I-40 and did not have the ping pong experience you did. Vehicle was very smooth, even in the periodic rain.

My biggest surprise was getting Premium 93 gas at Buc-ee's in Crossville, TN for $2.99.
Nice!
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