Airmatic issue & Intermittent compressor operation '09 ML320
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Airmatic issue & Intermittent compressor operation '09 ML320
Currently my W164 ML320 with 154k miles that I love very much has been running into issues with the Airmatic system. Firstly, the air compressor runs intermittently when I'm driving for like a second or two, and always runs for 30 seconds when I hit 25 mph for the first time. Adjusting the ride height seems to be functional but setting to the 'raised' setting raises the vehicle but the compressor does not want to stop. Setting the Airmatic to lower again turns of the compressor and lowers the vehicle like normal.
The vehicle seems to lower to a normal elevation when it is parked. Doesn't looked like a slammed S or M class like I've seen on other forum photos with leaky Airmatics. however during the self-leveling process I have noticed that the rear ALWAYS seems to be at a higher position than the front with a hissing noise louder that I would like it before the front & back evens out.
Thanks to the other threads here I have checked the following:
Would anyone know the exact location of the sensors and confirm that there is 1 rear ride height sensor or 2 for each rear strut? Thanks in advance, I know Airmatic issues are super common but I really don't want to replace another compressor and just want to spend the time to fix this current issue! Any other advice is welcome too!
The vehicle seems to lower to a normal elevation when it is parked. Doesn't looked like a slammed S or M class like I've seen on other forum photos with leaky Airmatics. however during the self-leveling process I have noticed that the rear ALWAYS seems to be at a higher position than the front with a hissing noise louder that I would like it before the front & back evens out.
Thanks to the other threads here I have checked the following:
- Airmatic Valve block (Factory original, but still holding up, used soapy water)
- Air Springs (Only front passenger air spring replaced W/ Arnott, rest are factory. No clearly visible damage, used soapy water, no bubbling but still suspicious of the components)
- Fuses and Relay for Airmatic system (All work good)
- Air compressor, (Replaced earlier in the year)
Would anyone know the exact location of the sensors and confirm that there is 1 rear ride height sensor or 2 for each rear strut? Thanks in advance, I know Airmatic issues are super common but I really don't want to replace another compressor and just want to spend the time to fix this current issue! Any other advice is welcome too!
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Thank you alot for the document! I only have a OBDII so either I will have to go to a independent shop in my area for the codes or get an SDS myself. Any good recommendations for a decent SDS clone?
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Its been great so far, I have a random air suspension malfunction and it showed me that there was apparently a issue with my right front wheel speed sensor. It should show you everything you need to find about the air suspension system. When you say the relay works good what do you mean? I HIGHLY recommend replacing the air suspension relay with a new one. I just ran into this issue with the relay would stay on randomly after the car shuts off. You can't tell if its working right or wrong by looking at it. Its internal, its better just to replace it all together. This is the one I purchased.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Mercede...72.m2749.l2649
You can look at the relay and tell if its original too, I think the old ones are Tyco maybe? New one should be hella, don't go aftermarket relay either to save $. That scanner should tell you exactly what fault you are running into. It also shows live data showing the height of each sensor. So you can rule out if theres one showing a bad reading or no reading.
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I checked the respective relay for the airmatic system. They are indeed Tyco, and not the the Hella everyone recommends. The relay for the ignition also uses the same Tyco relay part # as well. What I did was a really lazy test was to swap the relays for the starter and the airmatic since they are the same. My hypothesis was that if the airmatic relay is bad, then the vehicle will either struggle or not start at all. However, car started without effort. This was done before I got the scanner, the same one you mentioned.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
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I checked the respective relay for the airmatic system. They are indeed Tyco, and not the the Hella everyone recommends. The relay for the ignition also uses the same Tyco relay part # as well. What I did was a really lazy test was to swap the relays for the starter and the airmatic since they are the same. My hypothesis was that if the airmatic relay is bad, then the vehicle will either struggle or not start at all. However, car started without effort. This was done before I got the scanner, the same one you mentioned.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
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I checked the respective relay for the airmatic system. They are indeed Tyco, and not the the Hella everyone recommends. The relay for the ignition also uses the same Tyco relay part # as well. What I did was a really lazy test was to swap the relays for the starter and the airmatic since they are the same. My hypothesis was that if the airmatic relay is bad, then the vehicle will either struggle or not start at all. However, car started without effort. This was done before I got the scanner, the same one you mentioned.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
So now with the scanner, I'm going to see what is causing the specific fault codes and update you guys here. Honestly, I should of gotten this device sooner. It will also help with our W211 CDI as well.
Afterwards, I'll just source what components I needs via FCP Euro or my local dealership.
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Quick update, I scanned the Airmatic system and was surprised to see that the only code I got was '5400'- Check component F58kG (Air suspension compressor).
I decided to also take a look of the readings of the level sensors as well. Just looking at the values, my gut feeling is that these sensors are not calibrated properly. Vehicle was parked on a flat surface and did its self-leveling before measuring. Here are the values I got.
As always, appreciate for the help.
I decided to also take a look of the readings of the level sensors as well. Just looking at the values, my gut feeling is that these sensors are not calibrated properly. Vehicle was parked on a flat surface and did its self-leveling before measuring. Here are the values I got.
- Sensor Position: Volts / Vehicle Level (mm)
- Front Driver Sensor: 3.22V / -46mm
- Front Passenger Sensor: 2.06V / -42mm
- Rear Driver Sensor: 1.57V / -51mm
- Rear Passenger Sensor: 3.22V / -36mm
As always, appreciate for the help.
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Another update. A while back I called a indy merc shop about my issue and he stated that those compressors should run quickly. The issue of mine running at prolonged periods of time could point to a possible weak compressor. My replacement did come from China so it could be in the realm of possibility. Since then I got no leaks but the same intermittent compressor is still there. Ill post more updates for people who are looking at this thread if something happens.
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Another update. A while back I called a indy merc shop about my issue and he stated that those compressors should run quickly. The issue of mine running at prolonged periods of time could point to a possible weak compressor. My replacement did come from China so it could be in the realm of possibility. Since then I got no leaks but the same intermittent compressor is still there. Ill post more updates for people who are looking at this thread if something happens.
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Currently my W164 ML320 with 154k miles that I love very much has been running into issues with the Airmatic system. Firstly, the air compressor runs intermittently when I'm driving for like a second or two, and always runs for 30 seconds when I hit 25 mph for the first time. Adjusting the ride height seems to be functional but setting to the 'raised' setting raises the vehicle but the compressor does not want to stop. Setting the Airmatic to lower again turns of the compressor and lowers the vehicle like normal.
The vehicle seems to lower to a normal elevation when it is parked. Doesn't looked like a slammed S or M class like I've seen on other forum photos with leaky Airmatics. however during the self-leveling process I have noticed that the rear ALWAYS seems to be at a higher position than the front with a hissing noise louder that I would like it before the front & back evens out.
Thanks to the other threads here I have checked the following:
Would anyone know the exact location of the sensors and confirm that there is 1 rear ride height sensor or 2 for each rear strut? Thanks in advance, I know Airmatic issues are super common but I really don't want to replace another compressor and just want to spend the time to fix this current issue! Any other advice is welcome too!
The vehicle seems to lower to a normal elevation when it is parked. Doesn't looked like a slammed S or M class like I've seen on other forum photos with leaky Airmatics. however during the self-leveling process I have noticed that the rear ALWAYS seems to be at a higher position than the front with a hissing noise louder that I would like it before the front & back evens out.
Thanks to the other threads here I have checked the following:
- Airmatic Valve block (Factory original, but still holding up, used soapy water)
- Air Springs (Only front passenger air spring replaced W/ Arnott, rest are factory. No clearly visible damage, used soapy water, no bubbling but still suspicious of the components)
- Fuses and Relay for Airmatic system (All work good)
- Air compressor, (Replaced earlier in the year)
Would anyone know the exact location of the sensors and confirm that there is 1 rear ride height sensor or 2 for each rear strut? Thanks in advance, I know Airmatic issues are super common but I really don't want to replace another compressor and just want to spend the time to fix this current issue! Any other advice is welcome too!