ML400 3L turbo - when will that happen?
My ageing W164 just steps into the 9th year. I'm considering W166 ML350. However I'm aware the new engine for E400, M276 3L turbo with 333 HP and 48 Nm torque that should fit me best. Anyone know when will the new engine fit in for W166 - ML400 ?
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Eventually.
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Is it supposed to come with the refresh?
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Very attractive spec on E400 that is on sale in HK now....
Spec E350 vs E400 Engine/Configuration V6 V6 Displacement (cc) 3498 2996 Rated output (hp/rpm) 306/6500 333/5250-6000 Max Torque (Nm at rpm) 370/3500-5250 480/1600-4000 Compression ratio 12.0:1 10.5:1 0-100 km/h (s) 6.3 5.3:bow: |
ML400
I've just ordered the new ML400 last week…bi-tirbo and +30kw and more torque than current ML350. Arrives May shipment to Melbourne Australia
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Originally Posted by scottm57
(Post 5896938)
I've just ordered the new ML400 last week…bi-tirbo and +30kw and more torque than current ML350. Arrives May shipment to Melbourne Australia
Isnt the 400 engine replacing the V8 550? |
Originally Posted by scottm57
(Post 5896938)
I've just ordered the new ML400 last week…bi-tirbo and +30kw and more torque than current ML350. Arrives May shipment to Melbourne Australia
Nice choice though .... :y |
Originally Posted by galion
(Post 5897112)
Isnt the 400 engine replacing the V8 550?
Problem with this is now there's a huge gap in both price & features between an E400 and an E63. I'm talking around $100K difference. The E500 sat around half way between the E350 & E63. If they do this to the ML I suspect a similar thing will happen. I also suspect it's MB's way of trying to push us V8 lovers into an AMG, and spend more $$$. However, I'll be very surprised if they do this in the US as it seems the V8s still sell very well there. |
Mark my words : There will be no ML550 for 2015.
ML350 BT will be gone too. |
Originally Posted by galion
(Post 5898069)
Mark my words : There will be no ML550 for 2015.
ML350 BT will be gone too. Do you mean there'll be no ML550 in Brazil only in 2015, or worldwide? And what's going to happen to the ML350 BT? That's MB's best seller, perhaps not in your country, but certainly here, and in Europe! And it appears it's catching on very fast in the US too! Please clarify your comments. Are you a MB employee who has inside info? Cheers! :y |
Originally Posted by AussieBenzLover
(Post 5898408)
Hi, Thanks for your response.
Do you mean there'll be no ML550 in Brazil only in 2015, or worldwide? And what's going to happen to the ML350 BT? That's MB's best seller, perhaps not in your country, but certainly here, and in Europe! And it appears it's catching on very fast in the US too! Please clarify your comments. Are you a MB employee who has inside info? Cheers! :y From what Ive heard, ML 350BT will be replaced with ML250BT in most markets, America and Europe included. ML550 will be replaced with the ML400 in LATAM market, I am sure they will do the same in America, Just take a look at what they did to the E class 550. Manufacturers need to comply with Federal standards on C02 emissions which are tougher too meet every year so displacement downsizing and turbocharging is their goal. Porsche just dumped their fantastic NA4.8 V8 engine in the Panamera S in favor of a smaller V6 turbo, same will happen to the Cayenne S. The future is here. |
Is it going to be the V6 or the new twin turbo 4liter V8?
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Originally Posted by galion
(Post 5898714)
hehe, well... I am not a direct employee but I have my sources....:naughty: Daimler has a huge Bus and Truck factory here in Brazil, they are one of my best clients.
From what Ive heard, ML 350BT will be replaced with ML250BT in most markets, America and Europe included. ML550 will be replaced with the ML400 in LATAM market, I am sure they will do the same in America, Just take a look at what they did to the E class 550. Manufacturers need to comply with Federal standards on C02 emissions which are tougher too meet every year so displacement downsizing and turbocharging is their goal. Porsche just dumped their fantastic NA4.8 V8 engine in the Panamera S in favor of a smaller V6 turbo, same will happen to the Cayenne S. The future is here. Yes I've heard about the 250 BT replacing the 350 BT as well. There's been no word of that here in Aus, we currently have both, but the 350 is certainly the more popular of the two, and in fact the most popular seller of all MLs. The comments I've been reading on here about this happening in the US aren't very positive. I know alot of people buy the diesels for towing some pretty serious loads. I have a towbar on my car and I can pull 3,265kg, same as the 350 BT, but the 250 BT's capacity is only 3,000kgs, which does seem minimal I guess. Not sure what you're referring to when you said "look at what they did to the E-Class 550" .. I assume that means they've now dropped that from the range in the US, same as they did here recently with the new facelift. It's still on the US website though as being available. We were really annoyed at this because we wanted to order a new E500 about 8 months ago but were advised to wait a couple of months for the new facelift so we did. Had to chase up the dealer again (just hopeless, won't be buying from them again!) to place an order and was then told the bad news. Very unprofessional on MB's behalf. I wrote to their head office about it, and see if we could place a special order as we know they're still building E500s (or E550s) in RHD for Singapore & Japan, but they simply said "No, how about a CLS500 instead?" which costs another $50K and is only a 4 seater. They just don't care. Anyway, I know what you're saying, and yes, I guess the future is here and we just have to live with it. Happy motoring folks ... |
Originally Posted by Coreysimms
(Post 5899165)
Is it going to be the V6 or the new twin turbo 4liter V8?
Anyway that twin-turbo 4.0 V8 is an AMG engine I believe, and we'll first see it new W205 C-Class AMG. Wonder if they'll still badge it C63 though, C40 just seem to cut it huhh? How about ML40 ... hmm, no ... :zoom: |
ML 400
Yes i just checked the order paperwork again...delivery on my ML400 estimated at 31 May, 2014...melbourne
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Originally Posted by scottm57
(Post 5933788)
Yes i just checked the order paperwork again...delivery on my ML400 estimated at 31 May, 2014...melbourne
I drove an E400 last week and it's certainly got plenty of poke, crappy exhaust note though, but I'm sure your ML will have more of a growl! MBAuP's website STILL isn't updated. Still showing petrol MLs available are ML350 BlueEFFICIENCY, ML500 and ML63. :wtf: Cheers |
When I order my ML550 last week, there were only 30 something ML550s left to go through the assembly line. From what my sales manager told me, ML400 does replace the ML550. The Ml350bt is being stepped down to an ML250bt. I have been driving a 2010 ML350bt for the last 3.5 years. I was hoping to wait until autumn to step up to the 550. When I found out about MB ending the ML550, I decided to move up the purchase. Considering that my dealer had 1 ML550 slot on the assembly line left, I decided to take it. My delivery date is in April.
I hope this gives you all some insight on the timing change-over for the MLs. |
Originally Posted by Ben_K
(Post 5943404)
When I order my ML550 last week, there were only 30 something ML550s left to go through the assembly line. From what my sales manager told me, ML400 does replace the ML550. The Ml350bt is being stepped down to an ML250bt. I have been driving a 2010 ML350bt for the last 3.5 years. I was hoping to wait until autumn to step up to the 550. When I found out about MB ending the ML550, I decided to move up the purchase. Considering that my dealer had 1 ML550 slot on the assembly line left, I decided to take it. My delivery date is in April.
I hope this gives you all some insight on the timing change-over for the MLs. |
I like this one "When I order my ML550 last week, there were only 30 something ML550s left to go through the assembly line"... funny what some "dealers" say..
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
(Post 5944016)
I like this one "When I order my ML550 last week, there were only 30 something ML550s left to go through the assembly line"... funny what some "dealers" say..
Can you shine any light on this please fabbrisd1? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by AussieBenzLover
(Post 5944188)
Well there you go. Again, 'another' MB employee who is telling us 'another' story. I don't know what to believe anymore! I do hope he/she's wrong though.
Can you shine any light on this please fabbrisd1? Thanks. I still remember the day when Jimmy Carter did this same thing back in the 1970's, pushing for more fuel efficient cars. Mercedes is just following the trend set by My Obama. They could very well lose enough business during this engine shrinking phase, that they could very well phase them back in in a few short years.We shall see. |
Originally Posted by AussieBenzLover
(Post 5899322)
From everything I've seen and heard it will be the twin-turbo V6 that's already available in the E400 here, and ML400 too I believe, although MBAuP's website is still showing the ML350 not 400.
It still includes the ML500 as well as the ML350 Bluetec. |
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Originally Posted by iankayem
(Post 5959855)
Their website still lists the ML350 Blue Efficiency (225kw), but the attached spec sheet (02-2014) lists the 3.0L Bi-Turbo ML400 with 245kw and an incredible 480nm.
It still includes the ML500 as well as the ML350 Bluetec. Interesting. The ML400 looks the same on this sheet. Maybe the refresh is a 2016 model? |
I suspect that MB will change their website once the Vance, Alabama plant goes through their retool sometime this summer.
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