ML400 vs ML550
So I had my 2012 ML550 in yesterday for a Service A and my sales rep was nice enough to arrange a new 2015 ML400 tester for the day. Got my 550 checked in and they recommended a brake flush which I agreed to as its never been done. Also got a safety done as I am buying out my 550 at lease end in a few weeks.
Anyways walked over to the nice indoor service parking area and funny enough the ML400 had the same color combination I already have, diamond white with black interior. Same rims, running boards and looked identical to mine. Interior was similar but no real leather and the smell of MB Tex is just not the same (people still comment how great the leather in my car smells even after three years). Pulled out of the dealership and headed off to my office. First thing I noticed about the 400 engine is the lack of low end torque. I don't know the specs but pants in the seat noticed a substantial difference. Once I hit an on-ramp to the highway and the engine was warmed up I nailed it and the power is certainly there but just not the same obviously. I think if I had never driven a 550 I would have been grinning and delighted with the acceleration. The engine also seems very smooth and a nice exhaust note (wish my 550 had more). So end of the day I had really given it a workout. There are very few changes in the three years since my 2012 was produced and I will summarize below...
Also happy my lease buy out is significantly lower than what I see similar ML550s are selling for (at least the retail asking prices are much higher than what I am paying). Its also a pretty rare model so I think depreciation will slow down now. Maybe the gas prices coming down recently is good for gas guzzling V8 values! |
Great review there, thanks for sharing that!
I too am very disappointed with MB for dropping the 500/550 engine from the M-Class & also the E-Class. I haven't driven an ML400 yet, but after comparing an E400 to an E500 I'm probably not going to bother as it's just not in the same league at all. The E500 felt like a baby S-Class - nice & heavy in the front with that subtle V8 sound, a really beautiful car. The E400 not so - felt like just a larger C-Class basically. Amazing how changing an engine can change the whole characteristics of a car. Bad move from MB's point of view IMO. I'm not quite sure what they're trying to achieve by doing this. I believe it's to push us V8 lovers to spend more money and get into the AMG stuff. But for me they're too noisy, cost more to insure and service, not to mention purchase in the first place, and you can't get an ML63 with the ON & OFF Road Pack. I know the 550 has been unavailable in North America for a while now, but you can still order one here, but not for long I believe. The new updated ML in GLE form will only be available with the 400, 450 & 63 engines, plus the diesels 250 & 350. I suspect my relationship with MB will cease when it comes to new car time for me as I always want to drive a V8 4WD. If I want to save money a Jeep Grand Cherokee is looking good (and buy something else with the savings) or a Toyota Landcruiser Sahara with that awesome turbo diesel V8, but I know I will miss MB's engineering and safety. I also don't understand why MB introduced a V8 diesel here in the last generation X164 GL-Class (GL450 CDI) but then dropped it with the new generation X166. This particular variant was never available in North Amercia though, I think only here in Aus and perhaps the Middle East (?) which always baffled me, as I thought it would sell well in America. Now it's not available anywhere across the MB range. Seems a bit silly to spend all that money on R&D for an engine that only lasted maybe 2 yearsl If they put that engine in the new GLE (GLE450 CDI?), they'll possibly get me interested in their product again! So yeah, what you mentioned about hanging onto your ML550 for another year is interesting. I think I'll be doing the same for a few years more now as I just can't replace it. Only got 35,000kms after 2 years, so we'll see how we go. I normally change my vehicles before the factory warranty ceases, but this time perhaps not. Thanks again for sharing! :y |
Originally Posted by AussieBenzLover
(Post 6337026)
Great review there, thanks for sharing that!
I too am very disappointed with MB for dropping the 500/550 engine from the M-Class & also the E-Class. I haven't driven an ML400 yet, but after comparing an E400 to an E500 I'm probably not going to bother as it's just not in the same league at all. The E500 felt like a baby S-Class - nice & heavy in the front with that subtle V8 sound, a really beautiful car. The E400 not so - felt like just a larger C-Class basically. Amazing how changing an engine can change the whole characteristics of a car. Bad move from MB's point of view IMO. I'm not quite sure what they're trying to achieve by doing this. I believe it's to push us V8 lovers to spend more money and get into the AMG stuff. But for me they're too noisy, cost more to insure and service, not to mention purchase in the first place, and you can't get an ML63 with the ON & OFF Road Pack. I know the 550 has been unavailable in North America for a while now, but you can still order one here, but not for long I believe. The new updated ML in GLE form will only be available with the 400, 450 & 63 engines, plus the diesels 250 & 350. I suspect my relationship with MB will cease when it comes to new car time for me as I always want to drive a V8 4WD. If I want to save money a Jeep Grand Cherokee is looking good (and buy something else with the savings) or a Toyota Landcruiser Sahara with that awesome turbo diesel V8, but I know I will miss MB's engineering and safety. I also don't understand why MB introduced a V8 diesel here in the last generation X164 GL-Class (GL450 CDI) but then dropped it with the new generation X166. This particular variant was never available in North Amercia though, I think only here in Aus and perhaps the Middle East (?) which always baffled me, as I thought it would sell well in America. Now it's not available anywhere across the MB range. Seems a bit silly to spend all that money on R&D for an engine that only lasted maybe 2 yearsl If they put that engine in the new GLE (GLE450 CDI?), they'll possibly get me interested in their product again! So yeah, what you mentioned about hanging onto your ML550 for another year is interesting. I think I'll be doing the same for a few years more now as I just can't replace it. Only got 35,000kms after 2 years, so we'll see how we go. I normally change my vehicles before the factory warranty ceases, but this time perhaps not. Thanks again for sharing! :y |
Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
(Post 6337392)
4 words "CAFE". They want to sell a lot of cars and they have to improve MPG. Their hands are tied.
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